or Connect
AVS › AVS Forum › Audio › Subwoofers, Bass, and Transducers › Budget subwoofers discussions, opinions and questions thread
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Budget subwoofers discussions, opinions and questions thread - Page 71

post #2101 of 2778
Debating putting my rw-12d's up for sale and picking up a pair of EMP e1010i's right now. Just to play around with. Neither is going to be anywhere near loud enough or able to pressurize my living area, so not too worried about massive spl numbers at this point...until I can pick up something more expensive. Has anyone heard the rw-12d and the e1010i? Seems like I can't find any max spl numbers for the e1010i out there
post #2102 of 2778
Quote:
Originally Posted by bbaskin View Post

Lots of different types of music like classic rock, blues, hispanic, 70's R&B, country not to much music that needs hard hitting bass. Some olds school funk every now and then. All the speakers I mentioned are towers. A couple of them with 6.5 woofers and the others with 8". While listening in the garage it will always be open so there will be no pressurizing the room. It is a standard two car garage that I'm just trying to have some descent tunes in.

If I was going for higher end subs it would be no problem it has been years since I have looked at subs in this range and never looked for a musical sub only for movies.

Thanks Jim and Bond for the responses any help is greatly appreciated. Like I say I to figure what I need fast because the longer I stay on here the more I think I need to upgrade my home theatre.
Especially if you listen at fairly low volume most of the time I would definitely get a sub. A pair of 8" towers in your price range will not have a chance of making up for a sub. And you would have to listen to them loudly to get any kind of bass.
In fact if youre concerned about a pair of towers taking up too much space in the garage you could get a nice pair of bookshelf speakers with a sub.
post #2103 of 2778
Quote:
Originally Posted by taje View Post

The biggest I could go would be around 17" wide and 17" deep; not much of an improvement. The height isn't so much of an issue even though the WAF is really improvement, but space where I am putting it is the biggest factor. I am not sure what that opens me up too.

In your situation, you would be best off upping your budget if additional size is not an option. Otherwise someone in your household will have to make a concession.

In your price range, the Power Sound Audio XS-15 may do okay if placed nearby but it is a little bigger than the 17" limit.

http://www.powersoundaudio.com/products/xs15

If you must stick to the size limit then the SVS SB-13 Ultra is your best bet... but note the price: eek.gif

http://www.svsound.com/subwoofers/sealed-box/sb13-ultra#.Uok8MWd3u70

You can save a little bit by going B-stock and you will still get a full warranty:

http://www.svsound.com/outlet-specials
http://www.powersoundaudio.com/collections/outlet-center
post #2104 of 2778
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by noiselisten View Post

How would a Polk PSW10 10-Inch Subwoofer compliment 5 Klipsch R-1650-W In-Wall Speakers using a 5.1 AV Receiver? Would the PSW10 choke and become inaudible with the R1650W speakers?

Please see the speaker details (R-1650-W) in the following link from the manufacturer´s website: http://www.klipsch.com/r-1650-w-in-wall-speaker

The 5.1 setup will be used for movies. The sub woofer is for movies . Subwoofer Musical accuracy is not so important. Hopefully the sub woofer should be loud and create an impacting impression.

Room size equals 5.00 meters by 4.50 meters.

The PSW10 is not really able to "be loud and create an impacting impression", which is to be expected for a subwoofer that sells for around $80. Probably the best sub in the $100 range is the Dayton SUB-1200. That's one you should probably consider instead.
post #2105 of 2778
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bbaskin View Post

Lots of different types of music like classic rock, blues, hispanic, 70's R&B, country not to much music that needs hard hitting bass. Some olds school funk every now and then. All the speakers I mentioned are towers. A couple of them with 6.5 woofers and the others with 8". While listening in the garage it will always be open so there will be no pressurizing the room. It is a standard two car garage that I'm just trying to have some descent tunes in.

Since you aren't looking for a lot of deep bass perhaps towers would work for you. If you do opt to go that route a few to consider are:

post #2106 of 2778
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by taje View Post

The biggest I could go would be around 17" wide and 17" deep; not much of an improvement. The height isn't so much of an issue even though the WAF is really improvement, but space where I am putting it is the biggest factor. I am not sure what that opens me up too.

You're essentially between a rock and a hard place, with competing requirements it seems; the space you need to fill will mandates more subwoofer than you can put into a 17" cube. Can you do better than the 10d? Absolutely, but I don't think you'll reach your depth and output goal I'm afraid.

Given your situation, a few subs that might be worth considering are:


All of those are good units from quality companies which should have no problem blending with your NHT speakers.
Edited by JimWilson - 11/17/13 at 6:17pm
post #2107 of 2778
Quote:
Originally Posted by JimWilson View Post

The PSW10 is not really able to "be loud and create an impacting impression", which is to be expected for a subwoofer that sells for around $80. Probably the best sub in the $100 range is the Dayton SUB-1200. That's one you should probably consider instead.

I need a new sub for a medium size room, I am/was considering the BIC America F12 12" however I can get 2 of these Daytons for $15 more, is the Dayton better or is the BIC, as it is more costly. I assume 2 of these is the better option but it also takes up a lot more room. If I decide to up my spending to the 500 mark for a sub what other options would I want to look at? Pairing the sub to Klipsch WF34, WS24, WC24
Edited by cisco kid - 11/17/13 at 11:17pm
post #2108 of 2778
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cisco kid View Post

I need a new sub for a medium size room, I am/was considering the BIC America F12 12" however I can get 2 of these Daytons for $15 more, is the Dayton better or is the BIC, as it is more costly. I assume 2 of these is the better option but it also takes up a lot more room. If I decide to up my spending to the 500 mark for a sub what other options would I want to look at? Pairing the sub to Klipsch WF34, WS24, WC24

Two subs will increase total output potential and can help smooth out room modes. I say "can" because it's placement dependent; if you aren't able to place them in beneficial locations you may not derive the full benefit associated from running duals.
post #2109 of 2778
Quote:
Originally Posted by JimWilson View Post

Two subs will increase total output potential and can help smooth out room modes. I say "can" because it's placement dependent; if you aren't able to place them in beneficial locations you may not derive the full benefit associated from running duals.
The key word there is "full". Certainly you know more than I do but imo having duals is always better than one. Even with poor placement. Unless maybe the placement is so bad that they cancel each other out. And assuming the subs are similar.
post #2110 of 2778
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

The key word there is "full". Certainly you know more than I do but imo having duals is always better than one. Even with poor placement. Unless maybe the placement is so bad that they cancel each other out. And assuming the subs are similar.

Correct, and in essence that's what I was attempting to convey. I've seen people buy a pair of subs and plop them down anywhere then wonder why the bass wasn't all that great, so I've tried to throw out that caveat when I can. I don't want people to think it's an infallible configuration.
post #2111 of 2778
Quote:
Originally Posted by kesando View Post

In your situation, you would be best off upping your budget if additional size is not an option. Otherwise someone in your household will have to make a concession.

In your price range, the Power Sound Audio XS-15 may do okay if placed nearby but it is a little bigger than the 17" limit.

http://www.powersoundaudio.com/products/xs15

If you must stick to the size limit then the SVS SB-13 Ultra is your best bet... but note the price: eek.gif

http://www.svsound.com/subwoofers/sealed-box/sb13-ultra#.Uok8MWd3u70

You can save a little bit by going B-stock and you will still get a full warranty:

http://www.svsound.com/outlet-specials
http://www.powersoundaudio.com/collections/outlet-center

Quote:
Originally Posted by JimWilson View Post

You're essentially between a rock and a hard place, with competing requirements it seems; the space you need to fill will mandates more subwoofer than you can put into a 17" cube. Can you do better than the 10d? Absolutely, but I don't think you'll reach your depth and output goal I'm afraid.

Given your situation, a few subs that might be worth considering are:


All of those are good units from quality companies which should have no problem blending with your NHT speakers.

Thanks for all of the suggestions!

I think the PSA XS15 or the SVS SB12 might be the best right now. I made a cardboard cutout of a bigger sub 20w x 20h x 18d and the wife thought it wasn't bad. Really doesn't gain me much since most of the better subs are 20+ inches deep.

Is the SVS PC12-NSD something to consider or one of the Dayton Audio sub kits?

I wish I could get the SB13 Ultra but I feel that it would be overkill for my Onkyo 818 and speakers. It would probably wanting me to upgrade my speakers and my wife would kill me smile.gif
post #2112 of 2778
Quote:
Originally Posted by taje View Post


Thanks for all of the suggestions!

I think the PSA XS15 or the SVS SB12 might be the best right now. I made a cardboard cutout of a bigger sub 20w x 20h x 18d and the wife thought it wasn't bad. Really doesn't gain me much since most of the better subs are 20+ inches deep.

Is the SVS PC12-NSD something to consider or one of the Dayton Audio sub kits?

I wish I could get the SB13 Ultra but I feel that it would be overkill for my Onkyo 818 and speakers. It would probably wanting me to upgrade my speakers and my wife would kill me smile.gif

In that case I would just go with. XS15. I personally think your wife would be horrified at the site of the PC-12 NSD based on her current size restrictions. BTW would you or her be interested in one of the wood veneer options? Perhaps she wouldn't mind a larger sub if it were finished in a color that would match the decor of your room.
post #2113 of 2778
Overkill? Are you crazy? First of all your Onk had top of the line room calibration software, and why would a great sub be overkill for a processor?? Second, why don't you get the calculator out and check your cubic footage again. There is no overkill for as space like that if you want real powerful bass impact.

Frankly given the tiny size of the sealed SB subs you may be able to squeeze two in past the WAF. Tell her you are going to make a big compromise and get little subs to make her happy, but them you'll need two but they can be tucked away discreetly.

Alternately you can set up the cardboard box cutout and say you'll leave it there for a few days to let her get used to it. Then every night after she goes to bed sneak down and add an inch to each dimension. Within a week she'll be ok with a 24" x 24" x 22" monster smile.gif
post #2114 of 2778
Lol. Awesome idea
post #2115 of 2778
Build one of Bill Fitzmaurice's Table Tubas
post #2116 of 2778
Quote:
Originally Posted by batpig View Post

Overkill? Are you crazy? First of all your Onk had top of the line room calibration software, and why would a great sub be overkill for a processor?? Second, why don't you get the calculator out and check your cubic footage again. There is no overkill for as space like that if you want real powerful bass impact.

Frankly given the tiny size of the sealed SB subs you may be able to squeeze two in past the WAF. Tell her you are going to make a big compromise and get little subs to make her happy, but them you'll need two but they can be tucked away discreetly.

Alternately you can set up the cardboard box cutout and say you'll leave it there for a few days to let her get used to it. Then every night after she goes to bed sneak down and add an inch to each dimension. Within a week she'll be ok with a 24" x 24" x 22" monster smile.gif

LOL. That is not a bad idea.

I think I might get the SB12 now and could always add another one later since is barely bigger than mine now. Is the SB12 a better choice than the XS15?

Am I losing anything by not getting a ported sub?
post #2117 of 2778
post #2118 of 2778
post #2119 of 2778
Quote:
Originally Posted by JimWilson View Post

Both the Prodipe and M-Audio subwoofers are from companies that make speakers called "studio monitors", which are supposed to be some of the most accurate and musically pure speakers available. I would imagine their subwoofers are also designed in the same way, so they should both reproduce music very well. The type you listen to is very fast and aggressive, especially with the drums and bass, so having an accurate subwoofer will be a benefit.

Since I've never heard either of those two subwoofers I can only look at their specifications and make assumptions, but based upon that the M-Audio may be a better choice (if you can afford a little more). It's more powerful amp and larger cabinet suggest it can play a bit louder and deeper - lower Hz number - which is probably what you're looking for. I'm not sure either is a wrong choice though, it's just which is better for you.

Thx for your reaction.

Yeah the M-Audio is looking good and the prcie is in the budget but i had another question i got a Pioneer 3in 1 bass set in my room can i plug the M-Audio in the pioneer set that they work together? And can i just plug inn it in my pc ore do i need to buy special cables for it?

Sory for the bad english
post #2120 of 2778
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hard-With-Style View Post

Yeah the M-Audio is looking good and the prcie is in the budget but i had another question i got a Pioneer 3in 1 bass set in my room can i plug the M-Audio in the pioneer set that they work together? And can i just plug inn it in my pc ore do i need to buy special cables for it?

I'm afraid I don't have any direct experience with that M-Audio subwoofer, or the Pioneer "3 in 1 bass set", so I can't really answer those questions for you. Sorry.
post #2121 of 2778

In a bind in regards to which subwoofer I should go with. Primary use would be for movies not much if any music.

 

Room Size: 17' 9" x 13' with wood floors.

Budget: $500

 

Between...

 

Klipsch SW-110, which I can get for $390, or the SVS PB-1000.

 

The rest of the system will consist of:

 

Marantz SR5008 Receiver

Klipsch RC-52 II (Center)

Klipsch RB-61 II (Bookshelf L/R)

Klipsch RS-42 II (Surround)

 

Thanks.

post #2122 of 2778
Quote:
Originally Posted by 513HTGuy View Post

In a bind in regards to which subwoofer I should go with. Primary use would be for movies not much if any music.

Room Size: 17' 9" x 13' with wood floors.
Budget: $500

Between...

Klipsch SW-110, which I can get for $390, or the SVS PB-1000.

The rest of the system will consist of:

Marantz SR5008 Receiver
Klipsch RC-52 II (Center)
Klipsch RB-61 II (Bookshelf L/R)
Klipsch RS-42 II (Surround)

Thanks.

Rythmik LV12R for $589 shipped. Or PB1000. Don't buy the Klipsch.
post #2123 of 2778
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

Rythmik LV12R for $589 shipped. Or PB1000. Don't buy the Klipsch.

+1
post #2124 of 2778
Sometimes you can get the PB1000 in B stock for $449.
post #2125 of 2778

Thanks, LV12R or PB1000 it is.

 

Will have to read up on the differences.

 

Found these reviews on them...

 

http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/speaker-subwoofer-reviews/66069-svs-pb1000-sb1000-subwoofer-review.html

 

http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/speaker-subwoofer-reviews/67309-rythmik-lv12r-subwoofer-review.html

 

Seems to favor the LV12R but don't want to break budget.

 

Decisions. Decisions.

post #2126 of 2778
Quote:
Originally Posted by 513HTGuy View Post

Thanks, LV12R or PB1000 it is.

Will have to read up on the differences.

Found these reviews on them...

http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/speaker-subwoofer-reviews/66069-svs-pb1000-sb1000-subwoofer-review.html

http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/speaker-subwoofer-reviews/67309-rythmik-lv12r-subwoofer-review.html

Seems to favor the LV12R but don't want to break budget.

Decisions. Decisions.

I understand about budgets, but for $89 dollars in my opinion you are getting an awesome sub. If you can't go over $500, I would suggest getting the PB-1000 B-Stock. It is my opinion that the PB-1000 isn't worth the $500 dollars SVS are asking. If it had a 12" subwoofer, I would say $500 would be worth it. Or you can search craiglist for as 12" SVS subs.
post #2127 of 2778
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 513HTGuy View Post

Thanks, LV12R or PB1000 it is.

Will have to read up on the differences.

Found these reviews on them...

http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/speaker-subwoofer-reviews/66069-svs-pb1000-sb1000-subwoofer-review.html

http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/speaker-subwoofer-reviews/67309-rythmik-lv12r-subwoofer-review.html

Seems to favor the LV12R but don't want to break budget.

Decisions. Decisions.

Those reviews are awesome - you should definitely listen to that guy! Oh wait, that was me who wrote them. Never mind... biggrin.gif
post #2128 of 2778

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by JimWilson View Post


Those reviews are awesome - you should definitely listen to that guy! Oh wait, that was me who wrote them. Never mind... biggrin.gif

 

Ha, thanks for the great reviews. I think I will pull the trigger and spend the extra $89 for the LV12R. Those reviews are the deciding factor in choosing along with reading many others opinions here. Thanks for the suggestion GusGus.

 

If I place the sub on the opposite side of my room which means I would have to run a RCA about 25' to the receiver, will this diminish sound at all?


Edited by 513HTGuy - 11/20/13 at 4:27pm
post #2129 of 2778
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 513HTGuy View Post

If I place the sub on the opposite side of my room which means I would have to run a RCA about 25' to the receiver, will this diminish sound at all?

No. I wouldn't buy the cheapest/thinnest cable, but so long as you get something decent you'll be fine.
post #2130 of 2778
Quote:
Originally Posted by JimWilson View Post

Those reviews are awesome - you should definitely listen to that guy! Oh wait, that was me who wrote them. Never mind... biggrin.gif
That is hilarious. I didnt click on them but if I had paid just a little attention I would have guessed it.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
AVS › AVS Forum › Audio › Subwoofers, Bass, and Transducers › Budget subwoofers discussions, opinions and questions thread