Budget subwoofers discussions, opinions and questions thread - Page 27

Yes, but does the sub output the proper channel when setup this way?
In other words, is the subwoofer playing the .1 channel (the LFE channel) of the 5.1 audio channels on movie soundtracks.

That is really my question. How can I hook up the JBL to use it's own crossover and play the proper movie soundtracks?

Al

This is really hard to believe. Every receiver has at least an 80 Hz setting for the crossover since that is the default THX recommendation. I looked at the owner's manual of your receiver, and it shows 80 Hz in some of the screen shots. It does not mention what are the other available crossover options though. How old is that receiver?

For a sub with generally higher power amps the class AB probably all do have fins.

But there are class AB amps that do not. For example I have powered monitors (Event 20/20bas v1) that have a 70W continuous HF and a 130W cont. LF class AB amps and a flat backpanel that gets very hot, too hot to touch. I would imagine fins would be needed if the power was slightly higher.

My older Yamaha RX-V receiver had a single, fixed 90Hz crossover.
You may have been looking at the manual for the VSX-21THX. The VSX-21 does not have an 80Hz setting. According to pg. 18 of the owner's manual:

Thanks for that info eljaycanuk. The VSX-21THX is the popular model and the VSX-21 is often confused with it. Anyway, my receivers crossover settings are the reason why I'd like to be able to use the JBL's crossover or any other budget subwoofers crossover when I finally make up my mind which one to get.

AL

I've got a Pioneer VSX D608 and same for me. 100,150,200.

Your receiver, if it is fairly recent, should have a setting where you can choose no subwoofer then change the LFE setting to LFE+Main and you should get the whole LFE through your sub if you hook it up using the sub's crossover.

So that being the case should I put my sub at 100hz and my reciever at 100hz and call it a day?

That depends on what speakers you have and what you're trying to accomplish. If you have large floorstanding speaker capable of producing decent bass, then you may want to set them to "LARGE" on the receiver. Most likely your center and/or surround speakers are small though. Depending on their frequency response, you will set the crossover on the receiver accordingly. Personally I try to avoid setting it any higher than 100 Hz because bass starts to become localized above that level causing the sub to draw too much attention to itself, but it's your call, really.

Whatever you do, if you're letting your receiver manage bass, then keep the crossover on the sub set to max, not at 100 Hz.

Swim33 and/or others,

I have been looking around at all the options and the JBL ES150P and it does look very good on specs at $160! It says bass reflex porting so is this a round bottom port? I have not seen any pics of the underside of it.

I also got an e-mail today for the SVS SB-1000. It's $500 and pretty new but is a sealed unit with great specs. for a small cube that would suit my needs very well. Has anyone seen any reviews of these units?

So many choices and I may have to unbuckle the straps on the savings account.

I can tell you that the JBL ES250P has a round bottom port and I'm guessing that the ES150P is the same. The only place I could find informative pictures (video) is youtube.


Al

There are very few pictures of it and since I have new furniture coming tomorrow I have to relocate this tonight so I thought I would be nice and take some pictures You can also see my cat in some of them lol

The back must be camera shy. That is the business end.

I posted pictures of the back earlier in the thread, post # 763

Thanks. That is good to know if someone wants to see it.

Nice pics!

Thanks. When I saw it go on sale I went to go research it and could not find any pictures of it so hopefully this solves the same problem for other people

The back seemed to be the hardest picture to find. That's why I mentioned it. I have no personal interest in the 150 or 250. Just trying to help the next guy.

Thanks for the pics. It actually looks pretty good. I am guessing there is an LED on the top so you know when it is on and working?

I got an e-mail and have also been looking at the new SVS SV and PB 1000 subs. They are $500 and I am now considering them. They have great specs, a good rep and fit the bill perfectly for size.
The SV1000 is only a 13"x13" cube around a 12" woofer and looks to go very low. The PB is a 10" front ported version but is also small but has great specs.

They are very new so they were not on my radar. Now they are.

While I'm still thinking on the JBL ES250PBK I stumbled on the Cadence CSX12 Mark II. Wow, for 279, with the free shipping option, this thing really seems impresive!
I didn't want to spend more than 200 but the specs on this Cadence makes considering it fairly easy. It weighs 67.25 pounds and is built like a tank with a Class A 225 watt RMS amplifier. Ya know, I never really liked that Klipsch that everyone is getting on sale and I would most certainly try this Cadence before the Klipsch. Everything about it looks better to me, most importantly the build quality.

Oh' man! I wasn't going to do the "but this one is just a little more" thing! ****!

Al

According to JimWilson's review of the CSX12 Mark II:

I don't know how I could have missed that review. Thanks!

If it's a good sub for 399 it's gotta be a better sub at 279. I guess that just leaves me still thinking!

Al

No "Moby Dick" play for the CSX 12, Jim?

Why are you so quick to discount the klipsch? How low is it supposed to play?

Which Klipsh? It's hard to keep track!

I'm assuming he's talking about the klipsch rw12d, but maybe I shouldn't assume

That's what I figured and I like it but it's too tall like the BIC F12 for the intended space. I am seriously considering the SVS SV or PB 1000. More money but looks like good quality and space saving dimensions.

First, I know very little about any subwoofer as I've never owned one.

And yes, I was referring to the Klipsch RW12d. I was just going by what I read on the "on sale for $299" thread. There are many post about that subwoofer arriving damaged. I know many were damaged because they were only shipped in one box and that has been changed but things like the port coming loose and other things rattling around in the cabinet seem like they weren't put together very well. Several people have commented on poor build quality especially with that sub having such a high MSRP. That's another thing that bothers me the MSRP. I made up my mind I wouldn't buy that sub when I first started reading that thread. That's just me, like I said, I don't know much about subs except what I read.

Al