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post #91 of 2778
What would you say if I had only $300 to work with? Just trying to look at all the possibilities.
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Originally Posted by The Jam View Post

What would you say if I had only $300 to work with? Just trying to look at all the possibilities.

It's very difficult to get a musical sub for $300, but there are some options. The Energy S-10.3 is noted for being pretty musical, without sacrificing much in the HT arena. Another potential option might be the BIC PL-200 (use coupon code TV15 for a 15% discount).
post #93 of 2778
my AVR is a Denon AVR590 with a Boston Acoustic kit, MCS90, my sub just died, which sub is a little better/upgrade that my AVR supports?
post #94 of 2778
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Originally Posted by D34thbr1ng3r View Post

my AVR is a Denon AVR590 with a Boston Acoustic kit, MCS90, my sub just died, which sub is a little better/upgrade that my AVR supports?

Without knowing your room size and budget it's a bit difficult to give much assistance.
post #95 of 2778
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Originally Posted by JimWilson View Post

Without knowing your room size and budget it's a bit difficult to give much assistance.

it's a 3x5m; budget 200-250 USD, mostly used for movies (80), games (20).

the BA is a 8" 100w.
post #96 of 2778
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Originally Posted by amazonracer View Post

Well said Jim. I am to going through this same delimma. It so hard to pull the trigger on something in my budget when it seems the alternative is really not that much more (but in real dollars is double).

In such a situation one option is to delay the purchase, save up a bit more and then get the better sub.
post #97 of 2778
Jim,
I need an advice. I live in an apartment. The living room is 15*10 feet and I am looking for a sub to play quiet music, so I am set on getting 8" sub. My budget is $300. I don't think I can go for a down firing sub (see HSU-sf1) because I don't want to disturb neighbors downstairs. The floor is very thin and to put a rag under it is not an option in a living room. I am listening 75% music and 25% movies, with the music being the more important of the two.
At the moment I am debating between Polk PSW111 (recently on sale for $125) and Mirage Omni S8 (at $250). What do you think about them and is there anything better that I am missing.
post #98 of 2778
^^
I am not Jim but I suggest you look at this and get it by tomorrow for $200
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...energy%20s10.3
post #99 of 2778
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^^
I am not Jim but I suggest you look at this and get it by tomorrow for $200
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...energy%20s10.3

Very tempting, but it is 10" and therefore it is bigger (17.33" x 14.14" x 18.31") than I can put in the living without it being obtrusive. But it is an exceptional deal, I agree.
post #100 of 2778
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Jim,
I need an advice. I live in an apartment. The living room is 15*10 feet and I am looking for a sub to play quiet music, so I am set on getting 8" sub. My budget is $300. I don't think I can go for a down firing sub (see HSU-sf1) because I don't want to disturb neighbors downstairs. The floor is very thin and to put a rag under it is not an option in a living room. I am listening 75% music and 25% movies, with the music being the more important of the two.

The aforementioned Energy 10.3 is quite a good value, but if it's too large then it won't be much good to you. Most 8" subs are compromises unfortunately, so the choices for them will be pretty limited. What type of music do you listen to?
post #101 of 2778
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The aforementioned Energy 10.3 is quite a good value, but if it's too large then it won't be much good to you. Most 8" subs are compromises unfortunately, so the choices for them will be pretty limited. What type of music do you listen to?

Classic rock, 60th, 70th music
post #102 of 2778
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Very tempting, but it is 10" and therefore it is bigger (17.33" x 14.14" x 18.31") than I can put in the living without it being obtrusive. But it is an exceptional deal, I agree.

If you must have an 8", look at the Outlaw Audio M8. Good review at CNET http://m.cnet.com/news/20042164
post #103 of 2778
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If you must have an 8", look at the Outlaw Audio M8. Good review at CNET http://m.cnet.com/news/20042164

Can't have down firing. I live on the 3d floor of an apartment with a very poor sound proof.
That's why I am contemplating Mirage Omni S8. Is it not good?
post #104 of 2778
Bass is omnidirectional, it wont matter which way the woofer is facing, it's going to bother your neighbors no matter what. These small ported subs usually have a peaky response to make them seem more powerful, which is going to be even worse for your neighbors. What you need is a small sealed sub, with a natural shallow roll off, like this one

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=300-760

It's only a 14" cube, and will have a smooth shallow roll off, so it shouldn't over power your apartment (or your neighbors).
post #105 of 2778
The Mirage Sub S8 I've heard at Best Buy...sounded ok.

Also check out Pinnicle....http://www.amazon.com/Pinnacle-Speak.../dp/B0021AERB0

Vardo

Edit: I have had the sub kit from Parts Express in the post above mine. It's excellent, and very
easy to put together.
post #106 of 2778
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That's why I am contemplating Mirage Omni S8. Is it not good?

I've never heard that one, so I can't say for certain. Did you do a forum search yet? There may be some information on AVS about it already.

A few others worth considering:
  • Martin Logan Dynamo 300. It can be front or down firing. They're real cheap on Amazon.
  • Wharfedale SW150. That's a 10" driver, but it's still pretty small. That one is on Amazon as well.
post #107 of 2778
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...What you need is a small sealed sub, with a natural shallow roll off

I agree, small sealed sub is what I need. Just can't find one below $300
Sigh.
post #108 of 2778
If you're willing to do a little bit of DIY you could make this happen. All you would need is a cheap jig saw and drill (or just grab the cheapest one at walmart).

Assembled and finished sub cabinet

10" sub driver

100 watt plate amp

All you need is a pencil compass, and a ruler. Place a 9" circle on the front baffle, and a 6.5"x7.5" square on the rear baffle. Drill a hole big enough for the jig saw blade, and cut the material out. Now all you need is gasket foam found at any home improvement store to go around the driver, and screws to install it (and the amp). Grab a cheap poly-filled pillow from walmart/target and throw it in the box, connect regular wire from the amp to the woofer and you're done.


-3db is 40hz anechoic, shown with 100 watts input and 80hz high pass filter. If the room is small the low end will be lifted flat.
post #109 of 2778
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These small ported subs usually have a peaky response to make them seem more powerful, which is going to be even worse for your neighbors.

How can you possibly know this without seeing the FR for the sub? The M8 is 29Hz-250Hz +/-3dB, and Outlaw is known for being fairly reliable on their specs. There's no reason to believe that sub is "peaky."
post #110 of 2778
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Originally Posted by cel4145 View Post

How can you possibly know this without seeing the FR for the sub? The M8 is 29Hz-250Hz +/-3dB, and Outlaw is known for being fairly reliable on their specs. There's no reason to believe that sub is "peaky."

I wasnt talking about the outlaw, or most ID subs, I know they design good subs. That was a general comment for cheap ported subs.

Even so, flat to 30hz anechoic in a small room will create a very strong response when room gain elevates the response. A small sealed sub is still best for OPs situation.
post #111 of 2778
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Even so, flat to 30hz anechoic in a small room will create a very strong response when room gain elevates the response. A small sealed sub is still best for OPs situation.

Or he could simply avoid placing it in the corner or other places in the room that might excite the sub response.
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How much could you get it for, the price in the review says $400? That Dayton 10" kit is $400 and would be far superior.
post #114 of 2778
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Episode speakers are only available from dealers, so it might be hard to find one.
post #115 of 2778
The PA-150 is $299 delivered right now. I think the best price recently has been $350.
post #116 of 2778
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The PA-150 is $299 delivered right now. I think the best price recently has been $350.

That's a very good price for the PA-150.
post #117 of 2778
I too am in the market for a budget sub with a relatively small footprint. Using it for both music and movies in a 10x16' room. Wouldn't the Hsu Research STF-1 and STF-2 be a strong candidate in the $250-$350 range? The reviews suggest they compete well with subs costing double or triple their price.
post #118 of 2778
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I too am in the market for a budget sub with a relatively small footprint. Using it for both music and movies in a 10x16' room. Wouldn't the Hsu Research STF-1 and STF-2 be a strong candidate in the $250-$350 range? The reviews suggest they compete well with subs costing double or triple their price.

Double or triple is probably a bit optimistic, but the HSU subs are well liked.
post #119 of 2778
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That's a very good price for the PA-150.

That's what I thought, and it makes it the $300 and under output king.
post #120 of 2778
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The PA-150 is $299 delivered right now. I think the best price recently has been $350.

It seems cheap for a 15 incher, but i am supprise to see it only goes down to 25hz.
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