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post #1681 of 3262
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Originally Posted by Michael2000 View Post

How's your SD looking from Directv?smile.gif
Michael

About the same as SD looks on any HD tv. Actually, it looks pretty much the same as SD that I receive OTA from Chicago. Do you have some sort of vendetta against Directv?
Edited by pds3 - 8/8/12 at 11:22am
post #1682 of 3262
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Originally Posted by pds3 View Post

About the same as SD looks on any HD tv. Actually, it looks pretty much the same as SD that I receive OTA from Chicago. Do you have some sort of vendetta against Directv?

One negative side of DTV, at least for me is that I loose the signal very easily with bad weather. It seems much more sensitive than Dish. Strangely my signals are in the 90s and 80s. I've had DTV for ~3 months and I've lost signal more times than I can remember with Dish over last 4 years.
post #1683 of 3262
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Originally Posted by pds3 View Post

About the same as SD looks on any HD tv. Actually, it looks pretty much the same as SD that I receive OTA from Chicago. Do you have some sort of vendetta against Directv?

You must work for Directv. smile.gif

Actually, I give Directv big points for being one of the first to broadcast 3D TV. Dish is still on the sidelines waiting for who knows what.

Michael
post #1684 of 3262
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Originally Posted by Michael2000 View Post

You must work for Directv. smile.gif
Actually, I give Directv big points for being one of the first to broadcast 3D TV. Dish is still on the sidelines waiting for who knows what.
Michael

I already told you, I do not work for Directv. I am not a liar as you seem to indicate.
post #1685 of 3262
Sorry to interrupt the direct tv discussion, but i took delivery of my 844 on tuesday and wall mounted it today.
I'd like to thank Chris from Cleveland Plasma for a great purchasing experience. First class all the way. I would highly recommend supporting his business.

Loving the set so far.
post #1686 of 3262
So I decided against a plasma, and I can't buy the model I really wanted 70LE735U anywhere anymore. So I am back to considering this set.

How is 720p on the thing, as output from say a PS3? Is it clear, or does it suffer from bad scaling? It seems the Panasonic plasmas suffer from terrible scaling of 720p content.

Does anyone play video games on the thing? How is the screen response time/motion blur?

Does it use a PVA type panel like Samsungs? You know the kind, where black will turn to grey when viewed off angle? (Not a backlight issue, but an off angle contrast issue).

Does the 3D flicker as much as Samsung LCDs?

Thanks for any comments.
post #1687 of 3262
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Originally Posted by pds3 View Post

I already told you, I do not work for Directv. I am not a liar as you seem to indicate.

Relax. I was just kidding, as exemplified by the smiley face.

Michael
post #1688 of 3262
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Originally Posted by Flavius View Post

Does it use a PVA type panel like Samsungs? You know the kind, where black will turn to grey when viewed off angle? (Not a backlight issue, but an off angle contrast issue).
Thanks for any comments.

I am not sure what panel type it has, but it definitely loses contrast and color saturation off angle, and it kicks in pretty fast. This is a TV that is best viewed dead on. I would have a look at one if you can, given how large a financial investment it is.

Michael
post #1689 of 3262
How did you get BEST BUY to match East Coast TV price? eek.gif
Are they in the same marketing area of where you live?
I'm in Southern California and the price here is $5400.
Did you get any kind of Extended Warranty?
post #1690 of 3262
I do get a free calibration now from Best Buy but with them I have a feeling I will get what I pay for. They were great to buy from though. They matched East Coast TV's price, gave me 36 months no interest and their free delivery included bringing it into the house and setting it up on the stand if I wanted them to. I mounted mine so they didn't. Oh, and I didn't think 120 pounds would be a big deal for my son and I but man is that thing heavy. Or maybe it was just the terror of dropping over $4500.
post #1691 of 3262
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Originally Posted by theEXTREMEone View Post

I do get a free calibration now from Best Buy but with them I have a feeling I will get what I pay for. They were great to buy from though. They matched East Coast TV's price, gave me 36 months no interest and their free delivery included bringing it into the house and setting it up on the stand if I wanted them to. I mounted mine so they didn't. Oh, and I didn't think 120 pounds would be a big deal for my son and I but man is that thing heavy. Or maybe it was just the terror of dropping over $4500.

This quote was from another writer, I'm new to this system so I got it all screwed up.
What I was trying to find out was how BB would under cut another merchant if they were from another state.
Its the 80" Sharp I was referring to. Sorry everyone.
But I'm still interested in a anwer. cool.gif
post #1692 of 3262
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Originally Posted by theEXTREMEone View Post

This quote was from another writer, I'm new to this system so I got it all screwed up.
What I was trying to find out was how BB would under cut another merchant if they were from another state.
Its the 80" Sharp I was referring to. Sorry everyone.
But I'm still interested in a anwer. cool.gif

My BB in Michigan matched East Coast back in May without blinking an eye. They even lowered the price minus the tax so it worked out the same.
Not all people have had the same results with their local BB. It depends how much your BB wants to sell a TV that day.
They also threw in 2 pairs of glasses and had free delivery and set up not to mention 36 months free financing and silver rewards points.
At the time I got my 844U for $4050 plus 6% tax.
If you want an extended warranty, Sharp has a great one for 3 extra years for $219 including damage from a lightning strike. They come right to the house.
So all you can do is go to your BB with a print out of who you want to match and see what they say.
post #1693 of 3262
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Originally Posted by theEXTREMEone View Post

This quote was from another writer, I'm new to this system so I got it all screwed up.
What I was trying to find out was how BB would under cut another merchant if they were from another state.
Its the 80" Sharp I was referring to. Sorry everyone.
But I'm still interested in a anwer. cool.gif

You might find some more help in this 80" pricing thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1386054/sharp-80-pricing
post #1694 of 3262
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by tannerridge View Post


If you want an extended warranty, Sharp has a great one for 3 extra years for $219 including damage from a lightning strike. They come right to the house.

That Sharp Extended warranty is actually 4 years & 3 months if you get it right after you buy the unit .... It's a great deal as the service is top floor , they have been know to replace a display just on photos of a problem, they come out pick up old display & replace it with a new one , if your bad display is no longer made ,you get the current model in that size @ no added costs .
post #1695 of 3262
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Originally Posted by theEXTREMEone View Post

I do get a free calibration now from Best Buy but with them I have a feeling I will get what I pay for.

Please post your settings after you get it calibrated.
post #1696 of 3262
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Originally Posted by Flavius View Post

So I decided against a plasma, and I can't buy the model I really wanted 70LE735U anywhere anymore. So I am back to considering this set.
How is 720p on the thing, as output from say a PS3? Is it clear, or does it suffer from bad scaling? It seems the Panasonic plasmas suffer from terrible scaling of 720p content.
Does anyone play video games on the thing? How is the screen response time/motion blur?
Does it use a PVA type panel like Samsungs? You know the kind, where black will turn to grey when viewed off angle? (Not a backlight issue, but an off angle contrast issue).
Does the 3D flicker as much as Samsung LCDs?
Thanks for any comments.

720p input looks fine. I use 844u with PS3 and I have no issues what so ever. I use it to play 3d and 2d games (not a hardcore gamer) and also watch 3d and regular blu-ray movies which this TV seems to handle perfectly fine.

I don't own any Samsung TV but do have Sony 3d (60LX900XBR) and they both are good but Sony is more sensitive when it comes to having your head straight when viewing 3d. With Sharp I can lay down and watch and it still looks good. Also Sharp glass has 2d option for anyone who don't want the 3d affect.
Edited by SonyHome - 8/9/12 at 7:06pm
post #1697 of 3262
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

That Sharp Extended warranty is actually 4 years & 3 months if you get it right after you buy the unit .... It's a great deal as the service is top floor , they have been know to replace a display just on photos of a problem, they come out pick up old display & replace it with a new one , if your bad display is no longer made ,you get the current model in that size @ no added costs .

A lot of warranties specify that they have the option of giving fair market value rather than a replacement TV. Does Sharp's have that option? Is the warranty text available to read somewhere on their website?

Michael
post #1698 of 3262
It has taken several days, but I've finally read all 1700 posts on this forum. I've learned that since I live in Dayton, OH, I should hire Chad B to calibrate the TV (and probably my receiver too) since he is so close.

But before I do that I need to solve a serious problem I have with this TV and is the reason I read this forum. I though it would be rude to post a problem without reading all the posts to see if my problem has already been addressed. But, I couldn't find any helpful information.

Setup:
I have an Ivy-bridge HTPC running Windows 7 connected via HDMI to my Denon AVR-3310CI and the Denon connected via HDMI to the LC-80LE844U. All my testing is done using various Blu-ray movies.

Problem:
I have a serious lip sync issue. The video delays the audio, but it's not consistent. At times it's nearly in sync, then a few minutes later, it's grown to well over 1/2 second, then it gets better, then worse again. It oscillates like that, but take several minutes for a full "cycle". So, setting the audio delay in the Denon isn't helpful. Also, the max delay in the Denon is 200ms, which isn't enough at its worst.
  1. I tried all the HDMI ports on the TV with no improvement.
  2. I turned off all video processing on the TV with no help.
  3. I called Sharp, and they said it was a receiver problem. They didn't seem very knowledgeable.
  4. I tried all variations of the video options in the Denon, including turning off all video processing in the Denon. I even called Denon, which resulted in me trying some combinations of settings I already tried. They basically told me to give up and run the PC directly to the TV, use optical from the TV to the receiver, and learn to live without HD audio.
  5. I thought the PC might be causing the problem. So, I borrowed a SONY BDP-S590 Blu-ray player, and installed it in-place of the HTPC. The problem remains.
  6. I plugged the HTPC directly into the TV, and used the optical output to the receiver. Perfect sync
  7. I plugged the SONY directly into the TV, and used the optical output to the receiver. Perfect sync.
  8. At this point, it looked like a Denon problem, so I plugged the output of the Denon into a HDMI computer monitor. Perfect sync.

Notes:
  • The Denon supports HDMI 1.3a only.
  • All my HDMI cables are high-speed 1.4a cables, and I tried other cables with no change.
  • This problem didn't exist on my old TV (it had component inputs only though)
  • Since I'm using a PC, I can very easily test the video delay. Open Notepad and start typing. On a normal PC, when you press a key, the letter appears instantly on the screen, In my setup there is a clear delay before the letter appears.
  • I thought that the TV might just be delaying the audio to match the video. But my Notepad test above didn't show a delay in steps 6 or 8 above.
  • Setting the TV to game mode helps a lot. It seems to remove the oscillation effect and reduces the delay to an amount the Denon can handle. But the game mode looks awful, and I can adjust it enough to look good.
  • Except for post 1567, no one has reported similar problems.

Options:
  • I'm considering borrowing a moderm HDMI 1.4 receiver to see that helps. Maybe I need to replace the Denon? If so, any suggestions?
  • Maybe my TV has a problem?
  • Any help would be appreciated!
post #1699 of 3262
Quote:
It has taken several days, but I've finally read all 1700 posts on this forum. I've learned that since I live in Dayton, OH, I should hire Chad B to calibrate the TV (and probably my receiver too) since he is so close.

But before I do that I need to solve a serious problem I have with this TV and is the reason I read this forum. I though it would be rude to post a problem without reading all the posts to see if my problem has already been addressed. But, I couldn't find any helpful information.

Setup:
I have an Ivy-bridge HTPC running Windows 7 connected via HDMI to my Denon AVR-3310CI and the Denon connected via HDMI to the LC-80LE844U. All my testing is done using various Blu-ray movies.

You might also read the denon 3310 thread down in the recievers, amps, and processors forum and see if anyone else has had the same problem (if you haven't already).
post #1700 of 3262
Quote:
Originally Posted by theEXTREMEone View Post

How did you get BEST BUY to match East Coast TV price? eek.gif
Are they in the same marketing area of where you live?
I'm in Southern California and the price here is $5400.
Did you get any kind of Extended Warranty?

The manager at my BB just looked up various prices on line and told me the lowest he could go.
The also gave me 2 pairs of 3D glasses and I get a free calibration
post #1701 of 3262
First isolate the problem and take the receiver out of the equation.
Connect the HTPC directly to the TV and have the audio play through the TV.

If everything plays fine it is your receiver




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Originally Posted by Tony-CE View Post

It has taken several days, but I've finally read all 1700 posts on this forum. I've learned that since I live in Dayton, OH, I should hire Chad B to calibrate the TV (and probably my receiver too) since he is so close.
But before I do that I need to solve a serious problem I have with this TV and is the reason I read this forum. I though it would be rude to post a problem without reading all the posts to see if my problem has already been addressed. But, I couldn't find any helpful information.
Setup:
I have an Ivy-bridge HTPC running Windows 7 connected via HDMI to my Denon AVR-3310CI and the Denon connected via HDMI to the LC-80LE844U. All my testing is done using various Blu-ray movies.
Problem:
I have a serious lip sync issue. The video delays the audio, but it's not consistent. At times it's nearly in sync, then a few minutes later, it's grown to well over 1/2 second, then it gets better, then worse again. It oscillates like that, but take several minutes for a full "cycle". So, setting the audio delay in the Denon isn't helpful. Also, the max delay in the Denon is 200ms, which isn't enough at its worst.
  1. I tried all the HDMI ports on the TV with no improvement.
  2. I turned off all video processing on the TV with no help.
  3. I called Sharp, and they said it was a receiver problem. They didn't seem very knowledgeable.
  4. I tried all variations of the video options in the Denon, including turning off all video processing in the Denon. I even called Denon, which resulted in me trying some combinations of settings I already tried. They basically told me to give up and run the PC directly to the TV, use optical from the TV to the receiver, and learn to live without HD audio.
  5. I thought the PC might be causing the problem. So, I borrowed a SONY BDP-S590 Blu-ray player, and installed it in-place of the HTPC. The problem remains.
  6. I plugged the HTPC directly into the TV, and used the optical output to the receiver. Perfect sync
  7. I plugged the SONY directly into the TV, and used the optical output to the receiver. Perfect sync.
  8. At this point, it looked like a Denon problem, so I plugged the output of the Denon into a HDMI computer monitor. Perfect sync.
Notes:
  • The Denon supports HDMI 1.3a only.
  • All my HDMI cables are high-speed 1.4a cables, and I tried other cables with no change.
  • This problem didn't exist on my old TV (it had component inputs only though)
  • Since I'm using a PC, I can very easily test the video delay. Open Notepad and start typing. On a normal PC, when you press a key, the letter appears instantly on the screen, In my setup there is a clear delay before the letter appears.
  • I thought that the TV might just be delaying the audio to match the video. But my Notepad test above didn't show a delay in steps 6 or 8 above.
  • Setting the TV to game mode helps a lot. It seems to remove the oscillation effect and reduces the delay to an amount the Denon can handle. But the game mode looks awful, and I can adjust it enough to look good.
  • Except for post 1567, no one has reported similar problems.
Options:
  • I'm considering borrowing a moderm HDMI 1.4 receiver to see that helps. Maybe I need to replace the Denon? If so, any suggestions?
  • Maybe my TV has a problem?
  • Any help would be appreciated!
post #1702 of 3262
Tony,

I had sync issues with HDMI as have a couple others. Do not see it when I am using component. You can adjust the delay both ways in the Denon setup menu. Solved my problem with my Marantz.

S~
post #1703 of 3262
well I have Chad coming in for an ISF on the 28th. If this set doesnt improve with that then its going to be sold and I am going back to an Elite.

P.S. Sound and vision latest issue reviews this tv and comes to the exact conclusion I have thus far, great in blu ray and HDX streams. REALLY bad with tv source pq.
It also appears there is a bug that the lovely film mode is not defeated completely when you turn it off in movie mode. The only mode you can is game mode but
then you loose out on other pq adjustments. Sharp said they did this on purpose....
post #1704 of 3262
Then they need to undo it on purpose rolleyes.gif Overall I am very pleased with PQ since changing from D* to Comcast. Color is much more accurate. There are a couple channels which I have found to be pretty bad on all providers, USA to name one. Very soft and very warm.

S~
post #1705 of 3262
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Originally Posted by Suzook View Post

well I have Chad coming in for an ISF on the 28th. If this set doesnt improve with that then its going to be sold and I am going back to an Elite.
P.S. Sound and vision latest issue reviews this tv and comes to the exact conclusion I have thus far, great in blu ray and HDX streams. REALLY bad with tv source pq.
It also appears there is a bug that the lovely film mode is not defeated completely when you turn it off in movie mode. The only mode you can is game mode but
then you loose out on other pq adjustments. Sharp said they did this on purpose....

Good info, Suzook.

I hate it when you can't defeat these things, and that's not just a crticism of Sharp either. It seems to be across the board. I can think of only one TV where you "may" be able to turn everything off, and that's the Samsung E8000 plasma.

This kind of stuff makes me want to buy a large format computer monitor, and an outboard processcor where "I" set the processing, if any. Somehow the audiophile world got the "no processing" message, but the videophile world didn't.

Michael
Edited by Michael2000 - 8/10/12 at 10:41am
post #1706 of 3262
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Originally Posted by Tony-CE View Post

It has taken several days, but I've finally read all 1700 posts on this forum. I've learned that since I live in Dayton, OH, I should hire Chad B to calibrate the TV (and probably my receiver too) since he is so close.
But before I do that I need to solve a serious problem I have with this TV and is the reason I read this forum. I though it would be rude to post a problem without reading all the posts to see if my problem has already been addressed. But, I couldn't find any helpful information.
Setup:
I have an Ivy-bridge HTPC running Windows 7 connected via HDMI to my Denon AVR-3310CI and the Denon connected via HDMI to the LC-80LE844U. All my testing is done using various Blu-ray movies.
Problem:
I have a serious lip sync issue. The video delays the audio, but it's not consistent. At times it's nearly in sync, then a few minutes later, it's grown to well over 1/2 second, then it gets better, then worse again. It oscillates like that, but take several minutes for a full "cycle". So, setting the audio delay in the Denon isn't helpful. Also, the max delay in the Denon is 200ms, which isn't enough at its worst.
  1. I tried all the HDMI ports on the TV with no improvement.
  2. I turned off all video processing on the TV with no help.
  3. I called Sharp, and they said it was a receiver problem. They didn't seem very knowledgeable.
  4. I tried all variations of the video options in the Denon, including turning off all video processing in the Denon. I even called Denon, which resulted in me trying some combinations of settings I already tried. They basically told me to give up and run the PC directly to the TV, use optical from the TV to the receiver, and learn to live without HD audio.
  5. I thought the PC might be causing the problem. So, I borrowed a SONY BDP-S590 Blu-ray player, and installed it in-place of the HTPC. The problem remains.
  6. I plugged the HTPC directly into the TV, and used the optical output to the receiver. Perfect sync
  7. I plugged the SONY directly into the TV, and used the optical output to the receiver. Perfect sync.
  8. At this point, it looked like a Denon problem, so I plugged the output of the Denon into a HDMI computer monitor. Perfect sync.
Notes:
  • The Denon supports HDMI 1.3a only.
  • All my HDMI cables are high-speed 1.4a cables, and I tried other cables with no change.
  • This problem didn't exist on my old TV (it had component inputs only though)
  • Since I'm using a PC, I can very easily test the video delay. Open Notepad and start typing. On a normal PC, when you press a key, the letter appears instantly on the screen, In my setup there is a clear delay before the letter appears.
  • I thought that the TV might just be delaying the audio to match the video. But my Notepad test above didn't show a delay in steps 6 or 8 above.
  • Setting the TV to game mode helps a lot. It seems to remove the oscillation effect and reduces the delay to an amount the Denon can handle. But the game mode looks awful, and I can adjust it enough to look good.
  • Except for post 1567, no one has reported similar problems.
Options:
  • I'm considering borrowing a moderm HDMI 1.4 receiver to see that helps. Maybe I need to replace the Denon? If so, any suggestions?
  • Maybe my TV has a problem?
  • Any help would be appreciated!

Your testing seems very thorough.

I'm surprised 6 and 7 had "perfect sync". I'm not sure how that would be possible, given the TV has video processing delays, and everyone has reported this.

Michael
post #1707 of 3262
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Originally Posted by Michael2000 View Post

Your testing seems very thorough.
I'm surprised 6 and 7 had "perfect sync". I'm not sure how that would be possible, given the TV has video processing delays, and everyone has reported this.
Michael

^^ To Tony-I have a Onkyo 809, and run everything (stb,bluray player,HD dvd) through my receiver and into the tv via the hdmi arc port....I get the lip sync problem as well. On the Onkyo, you can setup the hdmi main output to upscale, or set it to auto or just pass through...I have found that leaving it on passthrough helps with the lipsynch issue...I have found though that the lipsynch issue tends to be more when I watch tv though and I really don't have an issue with bluray or hddvd material
post #1708 of 3262
What are you guys using to mount this Sharp 80" bad boy?
post #1709 of 3262
Quote:
Originally Posted by theEXTREMEone View Post

How did you get BEST BUY to match East Coast TV price? eek.gif
Are they in the same marketing area of where you live?
I'm in Southern California and the price here is $5400.
Did you get any kind of Extended Warranty?
I price checked Best Buy and PC Richard in NJ. BB was firm at the advertised price but PCR quoted almost 1K less. As Eastcost TV is around same price, I opted to go with PCR. One good thing is, they are local to us. They brought the TV in a small truck, carried inside, opened the packaging materials, checked for any damages. I asked them to power up which they did and confirmed no dead pixels. Excellent service with best price.

There was an offer for Extended Warranty, but it was optional and did not impact the negotiated price on TV.
post #1710 of 3262
Wow. I just read the 844 review in Sound & Vision Magazine. I don't think I've read that bad a review in the 10+ years I've been reading that magazine. Scared me and I'm fearless.
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