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post #2281 of 3622
what two prompts?
post #2282 of 3622
what two prompts?
post #2283 of 3622
After unplugging and plugging back in the first prompt acknowledges that the update failed and that you'll need to do it again. Once you click OK, the New Updates Available alert pops up again and you can kick it off. This time is says it will only take 7 minutes and finished normally.
post #2284 of 3622
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Originally Posted by KenKasmar View Post

After unplugging and plugging back in the first prompt acknowledges that the update failed and that you'll need to do it again. Once you click OK, the New Updates Available alert pops up again and you can kick it off. This time is says it will only take 7 minutes and finished normally.

Mine was similar. It said it would take 4 minutes, stopped at 67% again, then finally rebooted and finished normally.
post #2285 of 3622
mine same stuck at 67% and freeze any idie?
post #2286 of 3622
click No to two prompts what is that??? help help please shrap LC-C7450U
post #2287 of 3622
click No to two prompts what is that??? help help please shrap LC-70C7450U
Edited by Art9206 - 11/2/12 at 7:39am
post #2288 of 3622
Mine went without a hitch. Said it was going to take 7 min., took like 4 min. I used wired. I'm wondering if those with the 67% freeze are using wireless. I have both but elected to use wired.
post #2289 of 3622
Does anybody know if can i use an-3dg30 glasseswith this tv?
post #2290 of 3622
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Originally Posted by bradford1 View Post

Does anybody know if can i use an-3dg30 glasseswith this tv?

UPDATE - So far I have tried both the G30 and the G20B's without any luck. Is there something I need to know about setting up 3d?

UPDATE - Actually no led light is turning on from the tv itself for a sync with glasses. Anybody had this happen?
Edited by bradford1 - 11/3/12 at 11:59am
post #2291 of 3622
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Originally Posted by ibill1 View Post

Mine went without a hitch. Said it was going to take 7 min., took like 4 min. I used wired. I'm wondering if those with the 67% freeze are using wireless. I have both but elected to use wired.

I have a lc70le847u with the same problem (stuck at 67%). Will try downloading with a wired connection.
post #2292 of 3622
I decided to do the USB method this time around. Worked fine.

S~
post #2293 of 3622
Thanks a lot, glad to see I wasn't the only one stuck at 67%. Kinda scary to unplug during a update.
Got the prompts now I guess if I want to watch Netflix I'll have to update but this time I'll use USB.

I left the TV on overnight not knowing what to do sure glad Google led me here smile.gif
post #2294 of 3622
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

It's a 240 refresh rate IF you assume Sharp's & other MFGer's definition of the strobe back light to achieve added extra frames to each actual image frame is a native panel . a truly native refresh rate like a Computer monitor these displays are not , you can't go backwards . Native refresh rate is the lowest a display can do , not marketing B S of what a software powered strobe can push it to .
Not sure why you're so adamant that the 844U does not have native 240Hz refresh rate and why it can't be adjusted. My old CRT monitors would run anywhere between 50 and 120 Hz. It's a simple internal adjustment, especially with today's digital circuitry. Except, for what I assume is, a simple 'cut and paste' error in the manual every other source including Sharp's info here: http://www.sharpusa.com/ForHome/HomeEntertainment/LCDTV/Models/LC80LE844U.aspx?tech_specs=1
where it clearly states that the PANEL NATIVE REFRESH RATE IS 240 Hz. and also states on a separate line: AQUOMOTION (Backlight Scanning Refresh Rate): 480
The 240 Hz rate is actually fairly important if it is a 3D TV as this allows a Black Interval frame to be inserted between other frames to reduce ghosting while still allowing 60Hz per eye through the active shutter glasses.
post #2295 of 3622
Thread Starter 
true native refresh rate means a "new" frame is presented that refreshed the last older frame , not repeating the same frame multiple times
your old CRT did not repeat frames , that CRT presented a new frame each time it refreshed .
End of story .
You have been misled & your are sold on a story by Sharp & every other LCD MFGer a marketing B S line . rolleyes.gif
Edited by Fastslappy - 11/4/12 at 6:42pm
post #2296 of 3622
Hello all!
Well I've officially joined the 80LE844u OWNER'S CLUB! I am extremely excited, beyond belief. I don't get my TV until later this next week, but I am so happy! I got Best Buy to price match at $4K EVEN! And I got to use my financing etc. What really drew me to this TV was just standing in front of the 847U at Best Buy and being in AWE that a 80" set could produce a picture that good. I mean it was even so much better than the other Sharp 80 (the LE6 series I think), that it was night and day to me, and gave me all of the push I needed. Anyway I'm totally excited and I'll post pictures up of my room with the new beast when I get it all set up.
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

true native refresh rate means a "new" frame is presented that refreshed the last older frame , not repeating the same frame multiple times
your old CRT did not repeat frames , that CRT presented a new frame each time it refreshed .
End of story .
You have been told & your are sold on a story by Sharp & every other LCD MFGer a marketing B S line . rolleyes.gif
Sorry - not true.
You can play a 24 fps movie on a 120Hz true native refresh rate and have your settings repeat each frame 5 times (instead of interpolating fill-in frames). It is STILL a true 120Hz refresh rate either way. Sorry to burst your bubble but facts are facts. New info frames has nothing to do with it. You could, in fact, be displaying a still JPG picture at 240 Hz and it would be by all definitions be a true 240 Hz refresh rate (probably more accurately called a frame rate)
post #2298 of 3622
Thread Starter 
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2379206,00.asp

refresh rates explained

again "Native" panel refresh rate is a vague marketing term that is misused by MFGer's when marketing a HD display .

Believe what you want rolleyes.gif
keep drinking their Koolaide tongue.gif
post #2299 of 3622
Jeez what is with your constant agenda and diatribes on your sorry little refresh rate issue? I mean I've been reading this thread and it's dominated by this BS. I realized in life there are always people that have no purpose that try to bring meaning into their lives by obsessing on some single issue to levels of insanity. That's you. Whereas I just look at this TV and I'm like WOW nice picture! Try that, your life might be less angst ridden.
post #2300 of 3622
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Originally Posted by dpak2005 View Post

Hello all!
Well I've officially joined the 80LE844u OWNER'S CLUB! I am extremely excited, beyond belief. I don't get my TV until later this next week, but I am so happy! I got Best Buy to price match at $4K EVEN! And I got to use my financing etc. What really drew me to this TV was just standing in front of the 847U at Best Buy and being in AWE that a 80" set could produce a picture that good. I mean it was even so much better than the other Sharp 80 (the LE6 series I think), that it was night and day to me, and gave me all of the push I needed. Anyway I'm totally excited and I'll post pictures up of my room with the new beast when I get it all set up.

Congrats on the new TV with a good price.

What did you have to show BB to match at $4K even?
post #2301 of 3622
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Originally Posted by bradford1 View Post

UPDATE - So far I have tried both the G30 and the G20B's without any luck. Is there something I need to know about setting up 3d?
UPDATE - Actually no led light is turning on from the tv itself for a sync with glasses. Anybody had this happen?

Anybody know of a solution or is this a hardware defect? The ir emitter on the tv is not lighting up while in 3d mode.
post #2302 of 3622
What's your source for 3D? I just connected a replacement 844U to my system and the Direct TV box said" no 3D TV connected". I rebooted the satellite box with the TV connected and it works fine now for 3D.
Rick
post #2303 of 3622
Argh! I just had the dreaded reboot for the first time in a several weeks. I wonder if the latest update brought it back. I guess if it's once every two weeks it's not so bad but I was sure it was gone. mad.gif
post #2304 of 3622
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2379206,00.asp
refresh rates explained
again "Native" panel refresh rate is a vague marketing term that is misused by MFGer's when marketing a HD display .
Believe what you want rolleyes.gif
keep drinking their Koolaide tongue.gif
I don't know Fastslappy. I wouldn't be so sure. When Chad B calibrated my set, he made mention that his equipment was measuring 240 while the set was set up for 120 high. I wish I would have asked him more about that statement now
Any calibrators out there want to weigh in on this?
post #2305 of 3622
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Originally Posted by stebrock View Post

What's your source for 3D? I just connected a replacement 844U to my system and the Direct TV box said" no 3D TV connected". I rebooted the satellite box with the TV connected and it works fine now for 3D.
Rick

I do get a 3D picture output on the display with no problem.

I can't experience 3D or get the glasses to sync with the TV because because apparently the lights that broadcast to the glasses (the ir emitter) doesn't turn on 3D mode.

The sharp symbol does turn from white to blue for 3d mode.

So the problem is that when I switch to 3D and I've tried with multiple sources and with multiple hdmi cables and the ir lights on the front of tv just don't light up. Also when I try the 3D test just stand alone still no red lights on front of tv.
Edited by bradford1 - 11/5/12 at 7:25pm
post #2306 of 3622
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Originally Posted by dpak2005 View Post

Jeez what is with your constant agenda and diatribes on your sorry little refresh rate issue? I mean I've been reading this thread and it's dominated by this BS. I realized in life there are always people that have no purpose that try to bring meaning into their lives by obsessing on some single issue to levels of insanity. That's you. Whereas I just look at this TV and I'm like WOW nice picture! Try that, your life might be less angst ridden.
Sorry you feel that way, but to LOT of us this is quite a big deal. Verifying that the 844 has a true 240 Hz panel can help to ensure that regular and especially, 3D viewing has minimum ghosting. The backlight strobing variety of hyping up refresh rates, is, as most of know, a gimmick that has no real validity in increasing motion clarity. This forum tends to be for enthusiastic hobbyists who enjoy the technical side of digital viewing. Sorry you're not one of them.
post #2307 of 3622
Thread Starter 
On a "True Refresh Rate " If you have a PC that is used for gaming with this display as it's monitor ,
go into the properties page in your video card's control panel
there you will see the maximum reported refresh rate by the display .
that number is the refresh rate that the display will do Maximum , you can force the monitor into a higher rate but you risk damage .
That is the number of new images per Hz

Now LCD & Plasma MFGer's have taken the TERM " Refresh Rate " & changed it to mean something entirely different. They are adding extra old previous frames to the image by use of software & strobes this is done to smooth out the image .

My Sharp reports back to the PC that my display has a refresh rate of 75 Hz .

All I'm saying is take that 120 240 480 refresh rate claim with a grain of salt , If you think you can build/buy a High Powered Gamer PC & push the monitor to those 120 240 480 figures you will soon find out it don't work .
That would take a Computer monitor that has a higher resolution & refresh rate than these displays can deliver .

Again those high refresh rates that are posted by LCD & Plasma MFGer's are a marketing ploy

I just want people to understand that the term means 2 different things

Not trying to say your display @ 240 is bad thing , if one feels a need for the added motion control by all means buy one Just don't buy with a 240 480 refresh rate as lending issue to buy a higher priced model of HD display , As the posted article states the higher flashing strobe effect has diminishing returns @ 240 & above
Edited by Fastslappy - 11/5/12 at 9:15pm
post #2308 of 3622
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

On a "True Refresh Rate " If you have a PC that is used for gaming with this display as it's monitor ,
go into the properties page in your video card's control panel
there you will see the maximum reported refresh rate by the display .
that number is the refresh rate that the display will do Maximum , you can force the monitor into a higher rate but you risk damage .
That is the number of new images per Hz
Now LCD & Plasma MFGer's have taken the TERM " Refresh Rate " & changed it to mean something entirely different. They are adding extra old previous frames to the image by use of software & strobes this is done to smooth out the image .
My Sharp reports back to the PC that my display has a refresh rate of 75 Hz .
All I'm saying is take that 120 240 480 refresh rate claim with a grain of salt , If you think you can build/buy a High Powered Gamer PC & push the monitor to those 120 240 480 figures you will soon find out it don't work .
That would take a Computer monitor that has a higher resolution & refresh rate than these displays can deliver .
Again those high refresh rates that are posted by LCD & Plasma MFGer's are a marketing ploy

I just want people to understand that the term means 2 different things
Not trying to say your display @ 240 is bad thing , if one feels a need for the added motion control by all means buy one Just don't buy with a 240 480 refresh rate as lending issue to buy a higher priced model of HD display , As the posted article states the higher flashing strobe effect has diminishing returns @ 240 & above

The 80" shows a refresh rate of 240 Hz. The 90" shows a refresh rate of 120 Hz.

Are you saying that they both have the same refresh rate of 75 Hz? Or is the thought that there is no distinguishable difference since source material is only 60 Hz anyway.

The implicaiton from the SHARP site is that the 80" has better specs other than size?
post #2309 of 3622
I have had a question on whether my picture settings for motion enhancement are causing an audio sync issue, and hoping some of the experts on here regarding refresh rates, etc. can help.

I had my 844U calibrated by Chad B. He set motion enhancement for off, which is consistent with the referenced article - "Even if you get a set that supports 120Hz or 240Hz (or even 480Hz or 600Hz) video modes, you might want to disable them, and watch the video without any interpolation or judder-reducing effects." I had the triple-ball effect for baseball games when the setting was at 120 High or higher. The triple-ball effect disappeared with motion enhancement set to off. I have all of the video settings on the AVR disabled.

When watching older movies on BD, I have audio sync issues when the BD player is set to 1080P 24 HZ output. This happens on my PS3 and standalone BD. When I turn the BD player to just 1080P, the sync issues are gone. I have experienced this on the Nightmare on Elm Street BDs and John Carpenter's The Thing. I watched Hangover II last night with the BD player set to 1080P 24 HZ and it did not have the sync issue. It seems to only appear on older movies when the BD player is set to 1080P 24 HZ. I have to force the player to output the video at 60 fps to avoid the audio sync problems on older movies. Switching between 1080P 24 HZ and 1080P outputs are confirmed by the 844U, which switches between 1080P 24 HZ and 1080P signals when you hit the "info" button.

Anyone have any idea what is causing this?

Here is my equipment:

Sharp LC-80LE844U
Denon AVR-3312CI
Denon DBT-1713UD
Toshiba HD-A35
Sony Playstation 3
Canton MOVIE150SIL
post #2310 of 3622
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by JackVette View Post

The 80" shows a refresh rate of 240 Hz. The 90" shows a refresh rate of 120 Hz.
Are you saying that they both have the same refresh rate of 75 Hz? Or is the thought that there is no distinguishable difference since source material is only 60 Hz anyway.
The implicaiton from the SHARP site is that the 80" has better specs other than size?
Yes 75 Hz is the max new image refresh rate these displays will support & most if not all source material is @ 60 ( Unless you are using the display as a computer monitor )

I M H O , I feel the 3 color pixel is a superior display , I feel the 632 is a better display over a 844 , BUT , the 632 is not 3D , the 90" is 3D & 3 color pixel .

Not saying that 4 pixel color is bad ..........................
but I can't tell the difference at all & most if not all calibrators say there is no real reason to have the 4th pixel .
My feeling is that the Full Back Lighted Arrays over a edge lit display are a WAY bigger issue , than the 240 480 issue & the 4 color Pixel issue .

All the major Electronics industries these days , the stats are Vague & Misleading ( the marketing dept. is now involved in publishing the numbers ) .
Case in point , how most all of the new AVR's on the listed watts per channel line in their stats pages are a blatant lie . rolleyes.gif
bench tests have proved that when 5 or 7 speakers are pushed by a modern AVR that the listed wattage per channel drops to near half of the stated watts per channel OR even lower in some of the budget AVR's .
Edited by Fastslappy - 11/6/12 at 9:31am
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