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post #2581 of 3176
1/16/13 at 5:01pm
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^^ Are u using these settings for all your viewing content? I tweaked my standard settings and use this for cable tv...I still like dynamic fixed for bluray..I just like the overall "POP" especially with Disney/Pixar content..I do like the movie mode as well, although it looks a little dull to my eyes

im currently using this for cable tv through Comcast.

as for movies, i havent gotten to those yet.
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post #2582 of 3176
1/16/13 at 6:13pm
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The 844 has a total of over 16,000,000 sub-pixel. It looks like one or two of your are stuck on BLACK which cannot be seen from more than 5 feet away. No LCD's are perfect and I personally, would rather put up with a couple of stuck pixels if everything else was great. If you have no clouding and your set isn't turning itself on and off occasionally, I would count my blessing and consider myself lucky. Other manufacturers allow up to 7 or more defective pixels before considering replacement.
My first 52" Sharp had about 5 bad pixels but none of them were bright and couldn't be seen from more than a few feet away so I just forgot about it. I recommend Sonyhome do the same because I believe if you seek replacement and Sharp agrees, your next set will have something even more objectionable than a couple of dead sub-pixels.

My 80-632U has one dark sub-pixel about 9" up from the bottom center of the screen. I cannot see it at all from 5 feet or so away from the screen. My set has NO clouding or DSE - the first set of 9 to be perfect in this regard. This trumps everything else!! I have never been so happy with a TV despite it not being "Perfect".

I have 3 stuck pixels in the upper right corner and since they are all different colors you can't always see them all at the same time. I didn't look hard any where else to see if there are any more but if Sharp isn't going to replace it for these defect than I'm not sure if I want to find any more. As I've stated I'm happy with this set for the most part but I do consider stuck pixels to be a mfg defect. I guess knowing that it has defect is bothering me more than it effecting my viewing. First set I had it for ~5 months before I even noticed huge pink spot in the panel which was only viewable on all white background and even than it was subtle so I probably can live with this if I had to.

I'm going to try pixel repair software to see if that works. I still don't understand why Sharp is asking for full screen picture for these defects. I think you could have 100 stuck pixels spread throughout the panel and still not be able to see it from a full screen picture so does that mean they won't replace that either?
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post #2583 of 3176
1/16/13 at 6:20pm
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

++11oo there are guys who replaced a display 4 times & wish they had kept the 1st one rolleyes.gif

How is it possible to get 4 bad sets in a row? Do you think Sharp has less than perfect sets set aside during their QA to do these replacements? I just find it hard to believe that people that received bad sets the first time so frequently receive another bad set.
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post #2584 of 3176
1/16/13 at 6:33pm
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Originally Posted by SonyHome View Post

How is it possible to get 4 bad sets in a row? Do you think Sharp has less than perfect sets set aside during their QA to do these replacements? I just find it hard to believe that people that received bad sets the first time so frequently receive another bad set.

I know this is a different brand, but I recently received 7 bad Samsung ES8000s in a row. 5 with dead pixels, 1 with severe banding, and one where I had no bad pixels, no banding, and went to use 3D and that was broken. Doesn't matter brand, make or model... some of us are just unlucky.
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post #2585 of 3176
1/17/13 at 4:20am
A quick question for all of you who are sharing settings. Pardon me if this seems ignorant, but I’ve been led to believe that all sets have to some degree their own idiosyncrasies with the colors and settings when they leave the factory. If this is true, sharing settings would seem pointless!

I don’t know how to really get YOUR set to look good other than using some calibration disk or bringing in a pro to do it. If all sets leave the factory the same, then I’m way off base, but would love some input from those of you who have a higher level of technical knowledge!

Thanks!
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post #2586 of 3176
1/17/13 at 6:25am
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A quick question for all of you who are sharing settings. Pardon me if this seems ignorant, but I’ve been led to believe that all sets have to some degree their own idiosyncrasies with the colors and settings when they leave the factory. If this is true, sharing settings would seem pointless!

I don’t know how to really get YOUR set to look good other than using some calibration disk or bringing in a pro to do it. If all sets leave the factory the same, then I’m way off base, but would love some input from those of you who have a higher level of technical knowledge!

Thanks!

You are correct. However the panels for the same model should behave the same way. Most people do not have their sets calibrated, so this questionably the next best thing.
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post #2587 of 3176
1/17/13 at 12:33pm
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Originally Posted by SonyHome View Post

I have 3 stuck pixels in the upper right corner and since they are all different colors you can't always see them all at the same time. I didn't look hard any where else to see if there are any more but if Sharp isn't going to replace it for these defect than I'm not sure if I want to find any more. As I've stated I'm happy with this set for the most part but I do consider stuck pixels to be a mfg defect. I guess knowing that it has defect is bothering me more than it effecting my viewing. First set I had it for ~5 months before I even noticed huge pink spot in the panel which was only viewable on all white background and even than it was subtle so I probably can live with this if I had to.

I'm going to try pixel repair software to see if that works. I still don't understand why Sharp is asking for full screen picture for these defects. I think you could have 100 stuck pixels spread throughout the panel and still not be able to see it from a full screen picture so does that mean they won't replace that either?
OK - You say they are 3 different colors but the pictures you show, they all appear black. Are you saying that they are different colors that DO NOT pass light through - As opposed to different color BRIGHT pixels? Big difference between the two. The first one would not annoy me too much but the second would probably drive me nuts.
Having said all that, I think you should check your screen carefully and see how pervasive the problem really is with your TV. The pixel massage mentioned earlier can show individual full color screen shots which makes it very easy to pick out flawed pixels.
Good luck!smile.gif
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post #2588 of 3176
1/17/13 at 2:03pm
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Originally Posted by SonyHome View Post

How is it possible to get 4 bad sets in a row? Do you think Sharp has less than perfect sets set aside during their QA to do these replacements? I just find it hard to believe that people that received bad sets the first time so frequently receive another bad set.
No some guys are just Extremely picky & this was on new 70" edge lighted models so it was varying degrees of clouding , flash lighting .
It's hit or miss on the edge lit models any way & that is why I'd never buy one . SuZooK went thru a few Elites as well
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post #2589 of 3176
1/17/13 at 4:42pm
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Originally Posted by billdag View Post

OK - You say they are 3 different colors but the pictures you show, they all appear black. Are you saying that they are different colors that DO NOT pass light through - As opposed to different color BRIGHT pixels? Big difference between the two. The first one would not annoy me too much but the second would probably drive me nuts.
Having said all that, I think you should check your screen carefully and see how pervasive the problem really is with your TV. The pixel massage mentioned earlier can show individual full color screen shots which makes it very easy to pick out flawed pixels.
Good luck!smile.gif

One of the stuck pixel is red, other blue and last one is like half of red. They don't seem to change color so if blue scene is displayed you can't really see the blue stuck pixel. I'm not sure what you mean by "The pixel massage mentioned earlier can show individual full color screen shots which makes it very easy to pick out flawed pixels" since picture that shows full screen you won't be able to see defects at the pixel level unless pixels were showing bright white color on black background or something.
Edited by SonyHome - 1/17/13 at 4:48pm
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post #2590 of 3176
1/17/13 at 6:28pm
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Originally Posted by SonyHome View Post

One of the stuck pixel is red, other blue and last one is like half of red. They don't seem to change color so if blue scene is displayed you can't really see the blue stuck pixel. I'm not sure what you mean by "The pixel massage mentioned earlier can show individual full color screen shots which makes it very easy to pick out flawed pixels" since picture that shows full screen you won't be able to see defects at the pixel level unless pixels were showing bright white color on black background or something.
Sure - set UDPixel for black screen and any bright pixels pop up and can be easily seen. To check for dark dead red pixels, for instance, set the screen to show only red and the absence of a red pixel obviously indicates that pixel is not working. I've been using this program for years and it doesn't take very long to confirm the extent of your pixel flaws.
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post #2591 of 3176
1/19/13 at 5:41am
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Originally Posted by Islandborn View Post

^^ Are u using these settings for all your viewing content? I tweaked my standard settings and use this for cable tv...I still like dynamic fixed for bluray..I just like the overall "POP" especially with Disney/Pixar content..I do like the movie mode as well, although it looks a little dull to my eyes

just watched a blu ray movie last night on my settings, looked great. better than the standard with the calibration from LCD Review and the movie with suzook/raym.

if you try mine out, let me know if you tweak anything so i can try it also.
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post #2592 of 3176
1/19/13 at 5:48am
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Originally Posted by schwegs99 View Post

just watched a blu ray movie last night on my settings, looked great. better than the standard with the calibration from LCD Review and the movie with suzook/raym.

if you try mine out, let me know if you tweak anything so i can try it also.

well as they say beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Glad you like your settings. You only have about a 100 people to convert ;-)
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post #2593 of 3176
1/19/13 at 7:43am
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Originally Posted by Suzook View Post

well as they say beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Glad you like your settings. You only have about a 100 people to convert ;-)

hahaha. you are correct! eye of the beholder is correct.
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post #2594 of 3176
1/20/13 at 9:26am
I received a call back from Sharp AQUOS Advantage rep and they said since they (person who evaluates these pictures) can't see the stuck pixels in the picture I took of full screen it's not a mfg defect even though they can see it in my close ups.

I ran the pixel fixer software for like 15 minutes and it didn't do anything for the stuck pixels. I also tried massaging the pixels which also didn't fix it. It's not a major deal but if anyone has any other suggestions let me know. If I can fix it without going through too much hassle I would like to try otherwise I guess I'll just have to live with it until I replace the set in few years.

Thanks.
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post #2595 of 3176
1/20/13 at 12:49pm
One pixel in a screen that big is not that big of a deal. If its not noticeable when ur viewing the TV then is not worth the headache.
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post #2596 of 3176
1/20/13 at 1:02pm
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Originally Posted by SonyHome View Post

I received a call back from Sharp AQUOS Advantage rep and they said since they (person who evaluates these pictures) can't see the stuck pixels in the picture I took of full screen it's not a mfg defect even though they can see it in my close ups.

I ran the pixel fixer software for like 15 minutes and it didn't do anything for the stuck pixels. I also tried massaging the pixels which also didn't fix it. It's not a major deal but if anyone has any other suggestions let me know. If I can fix it without going through too much hassle I would like to try otherwise I guess I'll just have to live with it until I replace the set in few years.

Thanks.
If its just stuck often times they will unstick on their own eventually.
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post #2597 of 3176
1/20/13 at 2:58pm
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Originally Posted by Maverickaim9 View Post

One pixel in a screen that big is not that big of a deal. If its not noticeable when ur viewing the TV then is not worth the headache.

It's actually 3 stuck pixels that I see but I understand what you are saying. But if you go by how Sharp does the determination you could have one that has bunch of stuck pixels and if they don't show in a picture that capture full screen than it's not a defect which I don't agree with.
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post #2598 of 3176
1/20/13 at 3:31pm
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Originally Posted by SonyHome View Post

It's actually 3 stuck pixels that I see but I understand what you are saying. But if you go by how Sharp does the determination you could have one that has bunch of stuck pixels and if they don't show in a picture that capture full screen than it's not a defect which I don't agree with.
A lot of that depends on the camera & a real high resolution getting the right shot
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post #2599 of 3176
1/20/13 at 6:07pm
I am building a new home ready in March. It has a spot carefully designed for an 80" (90 won't fit) TV. Based on what you've read, do any of you have advice on whether I should buy the current 844 model or wait for the new 80le650 which is supposed to be available in May. I really want to get it when the house is finished and not wait, but I suppose if ...

I don't care about 3D or internal speakers, and am most interested in picture quality and less net rested in how smart it is. I will not be using it as a web browser or use PIP. I'll probably use an external device for streaming.
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post #2600 of 3176
1/20/13 at 7:14pm
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I am building a new home ready in March. It has a spot carefully designed for an 80" (90 won't fit) TV. Based on what you've read, do any of you have advice on whether I should buy the current 844 model or wait for the new 80le650 which is supposed to be available in May. I really want to get it when the house is finished and not wait, but I suppose if ...

I don't care about 3D or internal speakers, and am most interested in picture quality and less net rested in how smart it is. I will not be using it as a web browser or use PIP. I'll probably use an external device for streaming.

If I was in the market for 80" now I would wait until the new models come out to see if there is any improvements in PQ. From what I've read at least the cosmetic touches will be much more refined than the current black plastic frames. I'm also curious about what the "Intelligent Variable Contrast Engine" and "Super Bright" have an effect on the PQ. If nothing else this should drop the price of current 844u or 632/633 model which sounds like may be better fit if you are not interested in 3D.
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1/20/13 at 7:20pm
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

A lot of that depends on the camera & a real high resolution getting the right shot

I just have 10 Megapixel Sony digital camera. From about 5 feet I can see the stuck pixel with bare eyes when certain scenes are shown but it doesn't show in picture I took of full screen.
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post #2602 of 3176
1/21/13 at 12:13pm
Current set is full array back lit. 2013 sets at 80 inches are all going to be edge lit. Full array is considered superior and the consensus among posts I've seen is that Sharp is using edge lit because it is significantly cheaper and most consumers will not see a difference.

I like the idea of the new sets having a better appearance (smaller bezels) and love the concept of Wallpaper art being displayed while drawing low power. Concerns about PQ.

Good luck with your decision.
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1/21/13 at 5:21pm
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Originally Posted by wandering_burr View Post

Current set is full array back lit. 2013 sets at 80 inches are all going to be edge lit.

Wow, that sucks. Seems like quite a step backwards.
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post #2604 of 3176
1/21/13 at 6:00pm
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Originally Posted by wandering_burr

Current set is full array back lit. 2013 sets at 80 inches are all going to be edge lit.


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Originally Posted by gweempose View Post

Wow, that sucks. Seems like quite a step backwards.
these reports say the 80" is back lit LED

http://www.digitaltrends.com/tv-reviews/sharp-aquos-lc-80le857-review/

all the X57 models are listed as backlit

http://www.digitaltrends.com/manufacturer/sharp/
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1/21/13 at 6:08pm
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Originally Posted by wandering_burr View Post

Current set is full array back lit. 2013 sets at 80 inches are all going to be edge lit. Full array is considered superior and the consensus among posts I've seen is that Sharp is using edge lit because it is significantly cheaper and most consumers will not see a difference.

I like the idea of the new sets having a better appearance (smaller bezels) and love the concept of Wallpaper art being displayed while drawing low power. Concerns about PQ.

Good luck with your decision.

Wow! I'm surprised with that decision by Sharp considering how many with 70" Edge lit sets complained about clouding and ect....

But based on this review I read it sounds like this may be true.
http://reviews.lcdtvbuyingguide.com/sharp-lcd-tv/sharp-lc80le857u.html

Bummer!
Edited by SonyHome - 1/21/13 at 6:18pm
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1/21/13 at 6:53pm
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Originally Posted by SonyHome View Post

Wow! I'm surprised with that decision by Sharp considering how many with 70" Edge lit sets complained about clouding and ect....

But based on this review I read it sounds like this may be true.
http://reviews.lcdtvbuyingguide.com/sharp-lcd-tv/sharp-lc80le857u.html

Bummer!
what Does he know ? his track record is way less than stellar .. he is the guy who produced the review of the soon to released 947 local dimming complete with photos just months ago , that quite simply was Vapor Ware mad.gif
see this . . . . ./
http://reviews.lcdtvbuyingguide.com/sharp-lcd-tv/sharp-lc70le945u.html eek.gif
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post #2607 of 3176
1/21/13 at 6:57pm
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the 844 was reported to be Edge lit when the 1st media reports hit last year by more than one so called review with So Called "preknowlege"
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1/21/13 at 7:03pm
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what Does he know ? his track record is way less than stellar .. he is the guy who produced the review of the soon to released 947 local dimming complete with photos just months ago , that quite simply was Vapor Ware mad.gif
see this . . . . ./
http://reviews.lcdtvbuyingguide.com/sharp-lcd-tv/sharp-lc70le945u.html eek.gif

That could have been change of plans from Sharp. I don't think he would publish something if he didn't think it was going to be true. This also could be misinformation but I guess we'll have to see to find out. Considering MSRP price is going up and they are doing more refinements to the styling it really wouldn't make sense to cheapen the unit with edge lit but maybe Sharp is more profit minded consider their financial conditions, who knows. Assuming this isn't edge lit I'm curious to find out about the intelligent variable contrast and super bright features and it's impact on the PQ.
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1/21/13 at 7:12pm
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

the 844 was reported to be Edge lit when the 1st media reports hit last year by more than one so called review with So Called "preknowlege"

I know all about this "preknowledge" you speak of even directly from Sharp. It was stated 844u was going to have the brushed aluminum bezel but as we all know how that ended up! rolleyes.gif I really wish that had come true since I really like the bezel on the 90". It's much narrower and more sturdy and classy looking than the black plastic.
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1/21/13 at 7:17pm
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Originally Posted by SonyHome View Post

I know all about this "preknowledge" you speak of even directly from Sharp. It was stated 844u was going to have the brushed aluminum bezel but as we all know how that ended up! rolleyes.gif I really wish that had come true since I really like the bezel on the 90". It's much narrower and more sturdy and classy looking than the black plastic.
even Sharp's own spec sheets were wrong on the 2012 models at 1st , Sharp website saying one thing , the spec sheet on the web site was different . The Canadian site was right & the US site was not .
there has been a miss-connect with manufacturing & the marketing side of Sharp for the last 3 years

SO Take all these Early insider reviews with a " Grain Of Salt " till they are actually in the stores will we know for sure
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