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post #2671 of 3622
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

New 2013 Sharp 80"ers are going to be Full back array lighted

new spec sheet on one model there will be more models as well Nothing official on other models

but this spec sheet shows the 2013 80"ers to back lighted

http://www.sharp.com.sg/web/products/prodDetail.asp?ProdId=502&mode=Spec expect the 884 will stop production soon ,

prices will drop on the 844 ONLY if supplies remain high

dropping 884 prices should be looked at very carefully eek.gif you might end up with a Factory Refurb that has been reboxed & sold as new ,as well

That's what happened with the 2011 back lighted 70'ers which was a great display over the 2012 70"ers that were/are Edge lit & the problems with clouding,flashlighting

weird because reports from the CES floor were all edge lit.....................
post #2672 of 3622
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

New 2013 Sharp 80"ers are going to be Full back array lighted

new spec sheet on one model there will be more models as well Nothing official on other models

but this spec sheet shows the 2013 80"ers to back lighted

http://www.sharp.com.sg/web/products/prodDetail.asp?ProdId=502&mode=Spec expect the 884 will stop production soon ,

prices will drop on the 844 ONLY if supplies remain high

dropping 884 prices should be looked at very carefully eek.gif you might end up with a Factory Refurb that has been reboxed & sold as new ,as well

That's what happened with the 2011 back lighted 70'ers which was a great display over the 2012 70"ers that were/are Edge lit & the problems with clouding,flashlighting
This is great news if tru. I am waiting on 2nd replacement so I think I will wait for the 2013's
post #2673 of 3622
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

New 2013 Sharp 80"ers are going to be Full back array lighted

new spec sheet on one model there will be more models as well Nothing official on other models

but this spec sheet shows the 2013 80"ers to back lighted

http://www.sharp.com.sg/web/products/prodDetail.asp?ProdId=502&mode=Spec expect the 884 will stop production soon ,

prices will drop on the 844 ONLY if supplies remain high

dropping 884 prices should be looked at very carefully eek.gif you might end up with a Factory Refurb that has been reboxed & sold as new ,as well

That's what happened with the 2011 back lighted 70'ers which was a great display over the 2012 70"ers that were/are Edge lit & the problems with clouding,flashlighting

Im just wondering how low they will go....
post #2674 of 3622
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

New 2013 Sharp 80"ers are going to be Full back array lighted

new spec sheet on one model there will be more models as well Nothing official on other models

but this spec sheet shows the 2013 80"ers to back lighted

http://www.sharp.com.sg/web/products/prodDetail.asp?ProdId=502&mode=Spec expect the 884 will stop production soon ,

prices will drop on the 844 ONLY if supplies remain high

dropping 884 prices should be looked at very carefully eek.gif you might end up with a Factory Refurb that has been reboxed & sold as new ,as well

That's what happened with the 2011 back lighted 70'ers which was a great display over the 2012 70"ers that were/are Edge lit & the problems with clouding,flashlighting

Actually link you have is to 940x model which was not in the 2013 model news release. Also looking at the picture it doesn't seem to have any of the bezel and cosmetic changes the 2013 models are supposed to have. Are you sure that is 2013 model?
post #2675 of 3622
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Originally Posted by SonyHome View Post

Actually link you have is to 940x model which was not in the 2013 model news release. Also looking at the picture it doesn't seem to have any of the bezel and cosmetic changes the 2013 models are supposed to have. Are you sure that is 2013 model?
that's a far-east model 2013 ,the website is from Singapore as Sharp makes all 80"ers at the same plant they just make different models with different features but the screens are all the same some runs are 3 color some are 4 color . The important fact is the back lighting is going to the same as this years .
there was a press release last fall where Sharp said the 80" & 90" would be back lit .
post #2676 of 3622
so after delay after delay with repair of my sony 52xbr.... BB bought back my tv I bought in 2009( full amout paid $2799 ) towards a new tv.... so I got a 80le844u for less than half....eek.gif
I couldn't be happier, the size WOW this screen is huge!!! seating is at 11 ft ... so far have had no issues with this set, just waiting to get over 100hr before ISF cal.
3D is simply awesome, the 3D glasses that I am using are AN-3DG30, again no issues ( knock on wood )
picture time
the sony 52xbr6 with zvox580, ps3, comcast hddvr


and the new sharp lc8-le844u ( not the best pic but it will do for now )


Edited by MASHgot80 - 2/6/13 at 11:37pm
post #2677 of 3622
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Originally Posted by darynm View Post

Hey all, I just purchased the Sharp LC-80LE844U at Best Buy. It was a random buy as I wasn't really looking to buy a TV, but BB was blowing out inventory and had 50 percent reduction on top of all ready marked down prices and on many things including TV's. So, I asked them if they had any TV's 65 in. on up and they had the 80 in Sharp in the back and asked if I wanted to see it. I said, hell yes!!! Still in box, although opened as I expected but looked liked it was never installed and in perfect condition. It was marked down from 4,400.00 to 2,200.00 with discount plus they threw in 2 pair of 3d glasses and free delivery. I had done no research at all on the TV like I would normally do. I have read mixed reviews, but I see that many love their TV. I bought an extended warranty (4 years) at 370.00. So, I invite any and all opinions if this is a worthy TV especially at the purchase price I got it for. I have read in some past posts that Sharp is struggling. Should that be a concern?

I wanted to update on the deal I got from Best Buy. It was delivered to me On Tuesday and all seemed well until I had just finished rewiring and re-hanging my TV mounts to install this behemoth when I plugged it in and turned it on to find that the internal screen was smashed!!! That sunken feeling and mouth drop was predominant and now I was thinking I was screwed as the TV was never turned on for me either at Best Buy or after the delivery. I quickly called BB and explained to them that I just got the TV installed (which looked fantastic on the wall minus the broken screen) and that it was never tested for me as I took their word it was checked out properly!!! Never again will allow myself to do that even if the purchase is not as easy to test as other items I come across... Thinking that now my great amazing deal just went down the tubes along with my money, the manager at BB amazed me by telling me that most likely it was damaged in delivery as they were supposed to plug the TV in. They use an outside delivery service when it comes to TV's that have free delivery thrown in, so he would replace the TV with a brand new unopened TV at no extra cost to me! I made him put that on paper and the new TV should be here on Friday. I worked on getting some pics before they take the TV back. With power on showing damage and off where you can't tell a thing. Learned a big lesson... I was very impressed how they worked to make this situation right! Thinking about it now, if they would have checked it out before I got it home or after it was immediately delivered I may have lost out on my deal! So, certain things happen for a reason I suppose. I will update as this purchase has turned into an wild adventure!
Edited by darynm - 2/7/13 at 9:38am
post #2678 of 3622
I'm glad it worked out for you darynm smile.gif Good luck with the new TV!
post #2679 of 3622
Good Luck dude.... .
post #2680 of 3622
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Originally Posted by darynm View Post

I wanted to update on the deal I got from Best Buy. It was delivered to me On Tuesday and all seemed well until I had just finished rewiring and re-hanging my TV mounts to install this behemoth when I plugged it in and turned it on to find that the internal screen was smashed!!! That sunken feeling and mouth drop was predominant and now I was thinking I was screwed as the TV was never turned on for me either at Best Buy or after the delivery. I quickly called BB and explained to them that I just got the TV installed (which looked fantastic on the wall minus the broken screen) and that it was never tested for me as I took their word it was checked out properly!!! Never again will allow myself to do that even if the purchase is not as easy to test as other items I come across... Thinking that now my great amazing deal just went down the tubes along with my money, the manager at BB amazed me by telling me that most likely it was damaged in delivery as they were supposed to plug the TV in. They use an outside delivery service when it comes to TV's that have free delivery thrown in, so he would replace the TV with a brand new unopened TV at no extra cost to me! I made him put that on paper and the new TV should be here on Friday. I worked on getting some pics before they take the TV back. With power on showing damage and off where you can't tell a thing. Learned a big lesson... I was very impressed how they worked to make this situation right! Thinking about it now, if they would have checked it out before I got it home or after it was immediately delivered I may have lost out on my deal! So, certain things happen for a reason I suppose. I will update as this purchase has turned into an wild adventure!

not uncommon for us 80" owners my friend....Go back like 50 pages and you will see I went through 3 different shipments until I got one that was not damaged...ALWAYS, unbox with the delivery guys there and at the very least plug it in and make sure the image is working...

TBH-win win for you....You're getting a brand new TV now...for what u paid for an open box.....
post #2681 of 3622
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Originally Posted by MASHgot80 View Post

so after delay after delay with repair of my sony 52xbr.... BB bought back my tv I bought in 2009( full amout paid $2799 ) towards a new tv.... so I got a 80le844u for less than half....eek.gif
I couldn't be happier, the size WOW this screen is huge!!! seating is at 11 ft ... so far have had no issues with this set, just waiting to get over 100hr before ISF cal.
3D is simply awesome, the 3D glasses that I am using are AN-3DG30, again no issues ( knock on wood )
picture time
the sony 52xbr6 with zvox580, ps3, comcast hddvr


and the new sharp lc8-le844u ( not the best pic but it will do for now )


@MASHgot80,
thanks for the pictures.Good luck with your new Sharp.
I see you're looking at soccer, can you see any vertical bands or DSE during panning scenes ?
The 65 from SONY is plagued with it (samsung panel) and i've heard that SHARP makes the best panels.
I also hope that this TV or his newer brother will be available in Europe.
post #2682 of 3622
You should thank you lucky stars. eek.gif
Where was your Best Buy located? tongue.gif
post #2683 of 3622
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Originally Posted by bruver View Post

@MASHgot80,
thanks for the pictures.Good luck with your new Sharp.
I see you're looking at soccer, can you see any vertical bands or DSE during panning scenes ?
.
haven't seen any vertical bands and I don't know what DSE stands for( very new to this AVS game )
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Originally Posted by theEXTREMEone View Post

You should thank you lucky stars. eek.gif
Where was your Best Buy located? tongue.gif
yup even bought a lotto ticket and it seemed my luck ended at Best Buy

Best Buy I went to was in Folsom Ca.
post #2684 of 3622
Thanks MASH,
no vertical bands, that's what I want to hear.
I sure hope these sets will come to Europe.
I'm new here to, and i'm still learning, but DSE means dirty screen effect.
It's a sort of haze over blue sky or the green of a soccer-field during panning scenes.
I hope, I explain it the wright way, because English is not my native language.
If it's there, you would have seen it.
The same goes for the vertical bands.
post #2685 of 3622
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Originally Posted by MASHgot80 View Post

haven't seen any vertical bands and I don't know what DSE stands for( very new to this AVS game )
yup even bought a lotto ticket and it seemed my luck ended at Best Buy

Best Buy I went to was in Folsom Ca.

Greetings dude! I shop at the BB at Galleria =)
post #2686 of 3622
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Originally Posted by darynm View Post

I wanted to update on the deal I got from Best Buy. It was delivered to me On Tuesday and all seemed well until I had just finished rewiring and re-hanging my TV mounts to install this behemoth when I plugged it in and turned it on to find that the internal screen was smashed!!! That sunken feeling and mouth drop was predominant and now I was thinking I was screwed as the TV was never turned on for me either at Best Buy or after the delivery. I quickly called BB and explained to them that I just got the TV installed (which looked fantastic on the wall minus the broken screen) and that it was never tested for me as I took their word it was checked out properly!!! Never again will allow myself to do that even if the purchase is not as easy to test as other items I come across... Thinking that now my great amazing deal just went down the tubes along with my money, the manager at BB amazed me by telling me that most likely it was damaged in delivery as they were supposed to plug the TV in. They use an outside delivery service when it comes to TV's that have free delivery thrown in, so he would replace the TV with a brand new unopened TV at no extra cost to me! I made him put that on paper and the new TV should be here on Friday. I worked on getting some pics before they take the TV back. With power on showing damage and off where you can't tell a thing. Learned a big lesson... I was very impressed how they worked to make this situation right! Thinking about it now, if they would have checked it out before I got it home or after it was immediately delivered I may have lost out on my deal! So, certain things happen for a reason I suppose. I will update as this purchase has turned into an wild adventure!

Well, I received my new in the box replacement TV from BB on Friday. I had to take a deep breath before turning it on, but to my relief it seems to be a good panel. Build in Jan. 2013 so I hope if there were any refresh to the system it was incorporated in this model. For the deal I got I have no room at all to complain. She fit perfectly on my wall and looks fantastic. The movie theater experience with this is the true glory in itself. I think the picture looks damn good after some tweeking... I just hope I find nothing wrong with it. I know several have had issues, but I also know many are loving their TVs. This TV will have to hold me for several years so I hope to make the most of it! Feels like Christmas again! lol


post #2687 of 3622
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Originally Posted by schwegs99 View Post

Has anyone tried a Darblet DarbeeVision on their 80"?

I have a Darblet attached to the 844 and found that is produces a brighter and sharper image than the TV alone. It's a subtle improvement.
post #2688 of 3622
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Originally Posted by Raym1234 View Post

I have a Darblet attached to the 844 and found that is produces a brighter and sharper image than the TV alone. It's a subtle improvement.

Could you provide some pictures to show the difference? Thanks
post #2689 of 3622
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Originally Posted by Islandborn View Post

Could you provide some pictures to show the difference? Thanks

I would if I could ever master the art of taking a picture of my TV screen and it coming out looking anything like what I am seeing.
post #2690 of 3622
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Originally Posted by Raym1234 View Post

I would if I could ever master the art of taking a picture of my TV screen and it coming out looking anything like what I am seeing.
Take the picture straight on with the flash OFF and it should turn out acceptable.
post #2691 of 3622
Thinking of getting one of these. Our room is quite bright during the da y. Do you get any reflection from the screen on this TV.

Thanks
post #2692 of 3622
no matter the display, all of them are going to have challenges in a room with a lot of windows. The amount of light is less of a concern than if the windows face the tv.

You can also subdue some of this by getting a tilt mount

I have a fair amount of light in my living room and my set does quite well
post #2693 of 3622
Thanks. No windows actually face the TV. I currently have a Mitsubishi 73" DLP which we get very little reflection from. The problem is it just isn't bright enough as we have 6 big windows high up in our front room. I'm hoping the backlit LED screen will help in this regard. Going to look at one tomorrow.
post #2694 of 3622
right,It would not suprise me if it is the same panel as the Elite minus THX and IVC and some other processing for 2k less ,thanks 6.gif
post #2695 of 3622
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Originally Posted by elviareok View Post

right,It would not suprise me if it is the same panel as the Elite minus THX and IVC and some other processing for 2k less ,thanks 6.gif

NOWHERE near the Elite panel. I had one, had it pro-calibrated, and returned it after a few days. The black level is not even in the same ballpark, it is as far away from the Elite as you can get while still being made by the same company. The only thing they have in common is the yellow pixel.
post #2696 of 3622
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Originally Posted by pred1973 View Post

NOWHERE near the Elite panel. I had one, had it pro-calibrated, and returned it after a few days. The black level is not even in the same ballpark, it is as far away from the Elite as you can get while still being made by the same company. The only thing they have in common is the yellow pixel.

settle down. I think your being a bit overzealous. I too had a 70 inch Elite (three of them to be precise) and also have the 844 80 and the 632 80.

While I wont even claim the totality of the Elite is near to the sharp, mine was properly calibrated by Chad B and I can easily say its not as bad as you make it out.

The Elite is MUCH less forgiving with varied sources where the 844/632 is not so much. However on a very good source, the 844 stands its ground.

Go wash the salt out of your mouth as I think your just a tiny bitter..........
post #2697 of 3622
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Originally Posted by Suzook View Post

settle down. I think your being a bit overzealous. I too had a 70 inch Elite (three of them to be precise) and also have the 844 80 and the 632 80.

While I wont even claim the totality of the Elite is near to the sharp, mine was properly calibrated by Chad B and I can easily say its not as bad as you make it out.

The Elite is MUCH less forgiving with varied sources where the 844/632 is not so much. However on a very good source, the 844 stands its ground.

Go wash the salt out of your mouth as I think your just a tiny bitter..........

Not at all bitter, and why would I be ? I bought, had it calibrated, returned it, nothing lost but a bit of time, and gained valuable experience. From first hand experience I would not put the 2 in anywhere near the same category. Even post calibration the best my 80LE844 could do was a medium dark gray. I could set it to give a darker black but only at the expense of crushing a significant amount of detail. Entirely likely that Chad B. did a better job on your calibration, as he is a very experienced and highly regarded calibrator, but still having seen mine calibrated versus even a non calibrated Elite, they really aren't in the same league at all. Just to give you an idea of where I am coming from, I was upgrading from a Panasonic 55GT50, and the 80LE844 was significantly inferior to that as far as motion and black level was concerned, which is why it was returned. My previous tv was a 50G10 (which had the black levels that got greyer due to pre-programmed voltage increases) and I would put the 80LE844 as being only slightly better on black level than that. The complete deal breaker was the horrible cross-talk and ghosting I seen on every one of about 20 3D Blurays. The Elite by comparison has some of the best 3D imaging of any tv available. I wouldn't be able to say anything about different sources as I use an Oppo BDP-105 exclusively as a source, it has HDMI and USB in's that I use for anything else in order to get the benefit of the QDEO processor. If you are happy with your set, great, I did enjoy the brightness and size, and it certainly has presence, but in no way does it compare to the Elite.

If I was going to put it into other terms, I would say its like comparing a Camaro to a Ferrari. If you think those cars are comparable, hey, the Camaro is not a bad car, but you would have a hard time convincing the guy with the Ferrari they were all that alike.

PS. I don't have a Ferrari either biggrin.gif
Edited by pred1973 - 2/16/13 at 10:07pm
post #2698 of 3622
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Originally Posted by pred1973 View Post

Not at all bitter, and why would I be ? I bought, had it calibrated, returned it, nothing lost but a bit of time, and gained valuable experience. From first hand experience I would not put the 2 in anywhere near the same category. Even post calibration the best my 80LE844 could do was a medium dark gray. I could set it to give a darker black but only at the expense of crushing a significant amount of detail. Entirely likely that Chad B. did a better job on your calibration, as he is a very experienced and highly regarded calibrator, but still having seen mine calibrated versus even a non calibrated Elite, they really aren't in the same league at all. Just to give you an idea of where I am coming from, I was upgrading from a Panasonic 55GT50, and the 80LE844 was significantly inferior to that as far as motion and black level was concerned, which is why it was returned. My previous tv was a 50G10 (which had the black levels that got greyer due to pre-programmed voltage increases) and I would put the 80LE844 as being only slightly better on black level than that. The complete deal breaker was the horrible cross-talk and ghosting I seen on every one of about 20 3D Blurays. The Elite by comparison has some of the best 3D imaging of any tv available. I wouldn't be able to say anything about different sources as I use an Oppo BDP-105 exclusively as a source, it has HDMI and USB in's that I use for anything else in order to get the benefit of the QDEO processor. If you are happy with your set, great, I did enjoy the brightness and size, and it certainly has presence, but in no way does it compare to the Elite.

If I was going to put it into other terms, I would say its like comparing a Camaro to a Ferrari. If you think those cars are comparable, hey, the Camaro is not a bad car, but you would have a hard time convincing the guy with the Ferrari they were all that alike.

PS. I don't have a Ferrari either biggrin.gif

Are you sure you didn't have defective 844u? Blacks I see on my set looks awesome. I did notice if you have Active Contrast ON it does crush blacks. Set I had originally (I think Feb or Mar 2012 build) didn't exhibit this but new one I got, November 2012 build did so I had to turn Active Contrast OFF.
post #2699 of 3622
I would like to think that if there was a defect that the calibrator would have noticed it. Active contrast was not on, nor was any of the motion-smoothing which I found gave that soap opera effect that some like and some don't. Apart from the black level and 3D crosstalk/ghosting it was an impressive set, and I am not knocking it for what it is. Not even saying its a bad tv, just stating that it is not in the same category as the Elite, and I'm sure it was never meant to be. I would suspect that Sharp did not release the 945 models (which from what I have read WAS really similar to the Elites) in order not to cannibalize the Elite sales. Don't know what you are comparing your black levels to, but for me I was comparing them to the 55GT50 I was replacing, and side by side it was not even close. Before calibration on my 80LE844 I did have what I would consider an acceptable (not great) black-level, but the calibrator showed me on his test pattern how much detail I was crushing out at that setting, and asked me whether or not I wanted it the way I thought it looked better, or whether I wanted it correct. When you see firsthand the black getting darker and the bars on the test pattern disappearing with each change of the setting you realize the limit of the panel in reproducing both good blacks and black detail. I also have a deep red painted room (much less reflected light than off a white wall) with a bronze/gold painted ceiling (also no light reflecting) in a dedicated dimmed room so black levels really are noticeable. A room with much more ambient light would certainly affect perceived black level.

PS. I ended up going with a Samsung 75ES9000 as a replacement, it has WAY darker blacks, better 3D but cost nearly double, and its not as good as the Elite either. It also has its issues, like some minor flashlighting in the corners that shows during letterboxed movies, and it too will be returned. So this is no grudge against the tv or the brand, just being objective from firsthand experience.
Edited by pred1973 - 2/17/13 at 8:32am
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Originally Posted by pred1973 View Post

I would like to think that if there was a defect that the calibrator would have noticed it. Active contrast was not on, nor was any of the motion-smoothing which I found gave that soap opera effect that some like and some don't. Apart from the black level and 3D crosstalk/ghosting it was an impressive set, and I am not knocking it for what it is. Not even saying its a bad tv, just stating that it is not in the same category as the Elite, and I'm sure it was never meant to be. I would suspect that Sharp did not release the 945 models (which from what I have read WAS really similar to the Elites) in order not to cannibalize the Elite sales. Don't know what you are comparing your black levels to, but for me I was comparing them to the 55GT50 I was replacing, and side by side it was not even close. Before calibration on my 80LE844 I did have what I would consider an acceptable (not great) black-level, but the calibrator showed me on his test pattern how much detail I was crushing out at that setting, and asked me whether or not I wanted it the way I thought it looked better, or whether I wanted it correct. When you see firsthand the black getting darker and the bars on the test pattern disappearing with each change of the setting you realize the limit of the panel in reproducing both good blacks and black detail. I also have a deep red painted room (much less reflected light than off a white wall) with a bronze/gold painted ceiling (also no light reflecting) in a dedicated dimmed room so black levels really are noticeable. A room with much more ambient light would certainly affect perceived black level.

PS. I ended up going with a Samsung 75ES9000 as a replacement, it has WAY darker blacks, better 3D but cost nearly double, and its not as good as the Elite either. It also has its issues, like some minor flashlighting in the corners that shows during letterboxed movies, and it too will be returned. So this is no grudge against the tv or the brand, just being objective from firsthand experience.

My previous TVs have all been Sony brands. In fact along with the 844u I have few Sony TVs currently like 52XBR9, XBR-60LX900 and Sony Projector VW80 (projecting a 134" screen) and 844u replaced R70XBR2 and black levels are comparable if not better than all of these. You are right about motion on 844u. I had to get used to it when I first got it but now either I've adjusted to it or my tweaked settings are working. I'm using Film Mode @ Advanced +1 w/ Motion Enhancement at either Off, 240 or 480. As far as 3D while I've seen cross talk in some scenes of some movies but for me this was minimal and for the most part 3D looks great especially given the 80" screen.

If I have to complain about anything on 844u it would be:
- 3 stuck pixels I've noticed
- Plain black plastic bezel styling

I can understand 844u may not be for everyone and I'm glad you found something you like and enjoy like my family and I enjoy our 844u.
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