Official Sharp AQUOS LC-80LE844U Owners thread - Page 26

Originally Posted by Islandborn

Just called BB here where I live in Cali...Man, these Magnolia reps...are they or are they not supposed to be adept, experts? This guy was a complete idiot. First, he wants to tell me that they are selling the 844u, but do not have any on display. And he says since the 844u is full backlit and last years 632 was edge lit, the 844u is so much better, not to mention it's a 240hz tv..

I tried to explain that the 632 was full array but, he just kept telling me I was wrong. Then I ask him about the Samsung ES8000 and he tells me that the sammy has a way better pic quality then the sharp. He also says that they have a 64" on display. I tell him are you sure it is a 64"? and that they just came out with the 60" and the 65 and 75 are still in the works. He says that samsung decided to go with the 64" instead of the 65"....

no where do I see a 64es8000 online...What do these ppl take us for? Do they really think we are idiots? I started spewing some tech jargain "AVS" style to make him aware I was not an idiot and he still acted like he knew it all...Oh well, i'm off to Best buy to see the NEW 64" inch Sammy and the edge lit 632u...Later

Originally Posted by JMCecil

I'm really disappointed. i went to see a 844 yesterday. It was on a basketball game when I got there and there were these terrible halos around the players when they moved. We tried all the modes from 240 down to none to try to eliminate it but it didn't work.

We figured maybe it was the TV feed, so hooked a blu-ray directly to the set. It was exactly they same, only worse because the clear picture made it 1000 more obvious.

There's a blurring shimmer around the focused objects during pans. It didn't have to be a sweeping pan either. A camera following a person(s) movement caused it too. It was not subtle. The person(s) being followed get "heat shimmer" if the camera pans to follow them.

What the heck is that? Is there a way to get rid of it? I was there to buy the TV, I left without it because of that.

Originally Posted by Suzook

Never expect critical viewing at stores. Listen to the feedback here. Pq once adjusted is very very good

Originally Posted by Twigaz

I would recommend going to another store and checking out a different 844. Not sure what's going on with that one.

Originally Posted by galleyhand

I just read all 26 pages and 22 page thread on 80" pricing. Still not sure which one to buy...the 632 80" or 844 80".

I currently have a Mitsu. 73833 that I bought 4 years ago. Has anyone switched from a Mitsu. DLP to one of the Sharp 80"? How do they compare in PQ? I think my tv has a really good picture so if the 632/844 has a even better pic then I am sold.

I have no experience with LCD's so I am trying to make sure I will not be disappointed after plunking down a large sum of $$$$.

Originally Posted by JMCecil

I went to a 2nd store (local custom installer place instead of big box store), they didn't have an 844, but we did the same thing with 2 80" 632s, one was calibrated in a "viewing" room. Exactly the same issue on both. There is either some setting we are missing, or those TV's are crap. The PQ is fine, but I don't know how you guys stand the panning aura.

The thing is, it isn't subtle. It is a freakin huge, obvious blur halo around all focused objects during pans. It looks like a CGI effect it's so obvious. Are you guys telling me that your sets don't do that? Or, do you just learn to ignore it?

Originally Posted by billdag

OK - Here's what I believe is happening.........Sharp's Film Mode should be set to OFF or STANDARD. If it is set to ADVANCED HIGH or LOW, Sharp's mediocre frame interpolation causes the weird haze you see around moving objects.
The MOTION ENHANCEMENT settings (120/240/480 Hz) don't affect this but may introduce another weird effect - double balls occasionally show up in sportscasts like golf or hockey.
Make sure the sharpness is set no higher than +1 as that will accentuate artifacts also.
Please let us know if this clears it up for you.
Cheers.

Originally Posted by DaGamePimp

masterslacker,

Actually I see 4 dots in the first picture and they appear to me as though they may be in direct relation to the mounting bolts at the back of the display (assuming it is mounted in some fashion and not just on the stand/base). If it is indeed the mounting locations (centered on the screen) then the bolts were probably tightened too much and may have damaged the panel.

Hope I am wrong, best of luck!
Jason

Originally Posted by masterslacker

Nope not mounted just sitting on a stand. Interesting thought though.

Originally Posted by billdag

OK - Here's what I believe is happening.........Sharp's Film Mode should be set to OFF or STANDARD. If it is set to ADVANCED HIGH or LOW, Sharp's mediocre frame interpolation causes the weird haze you see around moving objects.
The MOTION ENHANCEMENT settings (120/240/480 Hz) don't affect this but may introduce another weird effect - double balls occasionally show up in sportscasts like golf or hockey.
Make sure the sharpness is set no higher than +1 as that will accentuate artifacts also.
Please let us know if this clears it up for you.
Cheers.

Originally Posted by JMCecil

Thanks for the response. I made it back to the custom install store this afternoon and they were nice enough to go through the setup again. We used a demo trailer of Transformer 3 (one of dumbest movies ever), where the weeval thing is coring the building and the soldiers and a hot chick, with all her talent in her shirt, are running around inside.

Anyhow, when the floor tilts and they run across the room is one of the most easily observed times the halo occurs.

By turning movie mode off, motion off and sharpness to 1, it was much better but still there. Sitting 14 feet from the screen it was still clearly obvious. Although it was now not a heat shimmer halo, but a blurry edge effect. I'm not trying to be a kill joy, but this TV isn't for me.

Thanks to those who take the time to provide their technical advice. I love this forum and the information that it provides so that we can make informed decisions. Absolutely invaluable. So, even though I have a negative experience with the TV, I had another positive experience with this forum!

Cheers!

Originally Posted by billdag

You're welcome. We appreciate your honest comments and praise. One thing I would like to suggest, however, is that when you see some unattractive blurring or other motion effect, try pausing the presentation and see if it is still present. In the case of 24 FPS movies I have found that whatever blurring is perceived and blamed on the LCD display, it was STILL THERE when I paused it and looked at the frozen frame. Of course, everything is magnified, including any flaws, when you look at very large screens (unless you're back the proper distance - Eg: 7 feet for a 55" screen and 10.5 feet for an 80")
Oh! What is the time frame where the floor tilts in Tranformer 3? I would like to see how it looks on my 80-632U. (I'm ashamed to admit I have this movie and I agree - it stinks!) Megan Fox's replacement is certainly not for me. What is it with these inflated blubbery lips these days? Must be a fish lover.

Originally Posted by JMCecil

Great point ... we didn't pause. However, we did run the test on a panasonic plasma 55 or 60, sorry didn't really try to get the model, was just trying to see if the blur was the media or the tv. It is NOT there in any way shape or form on the plasma. It was also not visible on the Samsung 60" LCD. Obviously these are much smaller displays so you would expect flaws to hidden better.

Back to my original problem. I have a KDS-R70XBR2 with a bad optical block. I don't want to go down in size or PQ. It's really funny that a 7 or 8 year old rear projection is still not being bettered for PQ/Size. At least that I have found so far. The Mitz DLPs have horrible pictures by comparison to the XBR2.

Still hoping for a 70->80 plasma that looks good. (EDIT: And a mortal can afford)