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post #1021 of 2449
Does anyone know how to get rid of the haze or whatever it's called around a hockey puck? I know someone mentioned that they get it in football when a QB throws the ball but I haven't seen a football game on the tv yet. Is there a setting that I can tinker with that will eliminate that?
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did anyone watch the first transformers' movie on FX HD last night? it was nearly unwatchable due to judder. I never found a motion enhancement setting that made it tolerable. I tested all from 480 down to off... Also, during baseball games I'm noticing it as well. Can anyone else comment about judder on these sets? Thanks.
post #1023 of 2449
90% of my viewing is sourced thru my HTPC. I only had judder issues after the upgrade from XBMC 10 to 11 and that was corrected within the software rendering settings. I don't have cable or sat anymore and broadcast is all off-season until next month....
post #1024 of 2449
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Originally Posted by Coolbean04 View Post

Does anyone know how to get rid of the haze or whatever it's called around a hockey puck? I know someone mentioned that they get it in football when a QB throws the ball but I haven't seen a football game on the tv yet. Is there a setting that I can tinker with that will eliminate that?

I haven't seen the doubling in football that I see in Hockey and golf. To get that to stop in hockey or golf I had to turn off motion enhancement.
I have been watching a lot of football on Big10 Network and one of the ESPNs (U I think) that have been showing a lot of last years games. I am trying to see if I can live with this TV in football season comparing it to my 40 inch samsung. So far I say this is not as good as the SXRD I had and not as sharp as the smaller samsung but I have gotten to some settings where I can live it.

I meant to turn on Transformers but was watching football and then decide to finish Gears of War 2 again and start Gears of War 3 in 3D. Those both looked great.

(I also have lineless bifocals now, and sit farther back from the TVs, so I am not sure how much is the TV, my vision, or unrealistic expectations for a 70inch 1080p LCD screen).
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Originally Posted by Coolbean04 View Post

Does anyone know how to get rid of the haze or whatever it's called around a hockey puck? I know someone mentioned that they get it in football when a QB throws the ball but I haven't seen a football game on the tv yet. Is there a setting that I can tinker with that will eliminate that?

Fast motion looks better with all motion enhancement turned off.
post #1026 of 2449
Has anyone used 3D mode on these sets yet? If so, did you adjust the factory settings?
post #1027 of 2449
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Originally Posted by pds3 View Post

[quote name="steelerfan47" url="Burn in is a thing of the past if you break them in right and use the tools the tvs have.
You obviously have not read the Master Burn In and Image Retention sticky thread in the plasma threads. There are apparently lots of IR issues in the 2012 models. Personally, I would absolutely hate any image that remained on my screen when it shouldn't be there.

Is it really obvious? I have actually read quite alot of that thread. I am not having any IR issues with my LG 60". I have had it for a couple weeks now and it has mostly been used for full screen HD channel viewing with a few blu rays with black bars. Also I have my cable box set to light grey when a 4:3 picture has sidebars (although the sidebars are black on some programs despite my settings). With all the logos on stations and black, grey bars, and setup menus on blu-ray player used alot to configure wireless, etc, I have not seen even the slightest bit of IR at all. I also do have the TV set to orbiter- one of the tools to fight IR, burn-in. I'm not sure what it's doing as I never notice anything happening as a result of the orbiter being on. So far mine's been fine.
post #1028 of 2449
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Originally Posted by jhuehne View Post

I'm not even sure of a model # on these. They are made in China and some of the boxes just have Chinese writing on them. I had a deal setup to order directly from a Chinese distributor, but ordered elsewhere for cheaper. They still have not arrived and I will report back.

Are you sure the lenses aren't blue and red? tongue.gif
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What's the best way to display a nominally black screen, WITHOUT letting the auto dimming feature kick in. I want to be able to take a good picture of the flashlighting/clouding. If I switch to an un-used input with no HDMI cable connected, the display will go to hard black, shutting down the backlight. My grayscale patterns (at least on AVSHD) only go down to 5% stim. this shows it but not as clearly as 1% or 2% would. Anyone know of a test disc with 1% or 2% stimulus on it?

sorry to answer my own question. it appears from the manual for AVSHD, that there's a near black series in the ColorHCFR chapters, under Near Black featuring, 0%,1%, 2%, 3% and 4%. I'll try these tonight.

Best,
jeff
Edited by greeno - 6/27/12 at 10:42am
post #1030 of 2449
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Originally Posted by Skerlnik View Post

Are you sure the lenses aren't blue and red? tongue.gif

They aren't blue/red. =)

I had the first distributor check with the manufacturer and they should work with 2011/2012 sharp active 3d tvs. I've had a 2nd distributor in China sending me emails now too. I still don't have the glasses from my order.
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Am I putting this in the wrong section? I have a SHARP LC60LE847U and I am using my PS3 so I can play 3D movies. I tried tonight for the first time to play a 3D movie and it won't work. A message comes up saying that a 3D player couldn't be detected.
post #1032 of 2449
You have to use newer 1.4 compliant HDMI cables and have the PS3 settings correct. Also, if you haven't updated the system in a long while, you'll need to do that. I can't recall the exact settings and I'm away from home at the moment.
post #1033 of 2449
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Originally Posted by LivestrongTL View Post

Am I putting this in the wrong section? I have a SHARP LC60LE847U and I am using my PS3 so I can play 3D movies. I tried tonight for the first time to play a 3D movie and it won't work. A message comes up saying that a 3D player couldn't be detected.

You also have to "initialize" the PS3 for your 3D display after you've connected it. You go into your video settings on the PS3 and step through the process, telling it that you have a 3D display. Should work after that.
post #1034 of 2449
Wish me luck today on an exchange at costco for a second 70C8470U, due to clouding mainly in the lower left corner. let's hope it no worse than the last one.

On another note, I solved the judder issue. i set my AVR to output 1080p, letting the AVR upconvert the 1080i from the cable box. Smooth as silk. The implication is the de-interlacer in the set is not good.

Best,
jeff
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Originally Posted by gtbdevs View Post

This has been my dealing with Sharp, which I must say, has been a very easy, and pleasant experience. Below is the order of sets that I have been through, all 70 inch models. Each one had display issues, and the 733 was deemed a bad panel, by the repair company.


632--> 632 --> 732 --> 732 --> 733


After the 733, Sharp was just going to refund my money, but instead they sent me the LC-70LE847U, got it yesterday. Even though its edge lit, it still puts out a great picture. I also do not see any flashlighting on this set. watched the Ranger game last night, and the picture was great, and no motion issues.

I've had a few exchanges - between Best Buy and Sharp, I am now on my 6th tv:

632-> 732-> 732 ->632 ->640 ->847

I'm running into an issue with the 847 with such bad clouding , that I can see it during the day. Sharp is now telling me that the set is operating within spec. Needless to say, I got a little hot under the collar. The clouding is worse on this set than the 640. Standing firm on having them replace this unit. I was also offered a refund in lieu of replacing this unit. Tried to watch the new Sherlock Holmes movie the other day, and the clouds were sitting on top of the picture. The image with the Starting Windows boot screen and input name is from the 640U - all the rest are from the 847 that was delivered this past Sunday. Wish me luck.

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Edited by myoda - 6/28/12 at 5:50pm
post #1036 of 2449
Exchanged my 70C8470U (actually returned and bought another) at costco yesterday. This one is different but shows more symmetric patterns in the corners (predominantly on the left top and bottom). Using the HCFR near black patterns on AVSHD, 1% is not enough to disable the auto blanking, 2%, 3% and 4% all show the issue.

As a side note while calibrating this one (calman 4, D3) the color gamut was set to expanded (by default) and I noticed crushing of white any contrast levels above +29. Setting to standard gamut allowed basically any level of contrast to still distinguish but to 255 in the AVDHD white pluge pattern.

This one dialed in nicely. i note that you have to make a second pass through color and grayscale since they interact quite strongly. i.e. set white point, black point, do CMS on color, do grayscale, then repeat.

I also note that my settings from the the 8470 bought from costco on June 5, was way off in this set bought yesterday June 28. both sets had firmware updated to the latest (same version) prior to calibration.

I guess I can live with this one since it's not really clouds, but more of a corner lighting issue. I've got 90 days from yesterday to hope for the costco version of the 945 (full array with local dimming)...

Best,
jeff
Edited by greeno - 6/29/12 at 1:23pm
post #1037 of 2449
I have the 70LE847U
And have the same problem I amaze how sharp can release this product with this problem
even the 3D test has the problem

very disappointed
post #1038 of 2449
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Originally Posted by myoda View Post

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I've had a few exchanges - between Best Buy and Sharp, I am now on my 6th tv:
632-> 732-> 732 ->632 ->640 ->847
I'm running into an issue with the 847 with such bad clouding , that I can see it during the day. Sharp is now telling me that the set is operating within spec. Needless to say, I got a little hot under the collar. The clouding is worse on this set than the 640. Standing firm on having them replace this unit. I was also offered a refund in lieu of replacing this unit. Tried to watch the new Sherlock Holmes movie the other day, and the clouds were sitting on top of the picture. The image with the Starting Windows boot screen and input name is from the 640U - all the rest are from the 847 that was delivered this past Sunday. Wish me luck.
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That is bad, mine is not even close to looking like that, good luck!
post #1039 of 2449
Has anyone tried streaming Netflix and got ARC to work?

I have a Pioneer VSX-32 reciever which supports ARC, this TV, which says it does, yet can't get it to work. Have made the needed changes on the AVR, TV is set as manual says, but N/G.

Anybody have any luck?

TIA
post #1040 of 2449
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Originally Posted by jhuehne View Post

Multiple calls to Sharp again today. No luck on the 3d ghosting/crosstalk. Someone internal to Sharp replied to my case and said the built in 3d test is ok to show shadows and that they should use the 3d use clause in the manual. This was read to me twice today saying that 3D isn't for everyone and some people have stereoscopic 3D blindness. I explained I've had 11 adults, including 3 tv techs from the company they assigned to the case, that all saw this issue, not to mention retail sales staff that I've had look at it. The first rep was very rude and said I had bad eyesight and couldn't see 3D and the case was being closed.
The second rep transferred me to a supervisor and he was more understanding. I've requested a call from a technical specialist (tv engineer) that works on firmware's for this model. We'll see if that happens, but they said sometime within the next 24 hours. I've asked if there is a new firmware coming soon that may address the issue, then I'd keep the tv and wait for it. Otherwise, I was told to return it for another model at Costco or get my money back.
The supervisor said it sounded like I should just get the elite since the 3d looks good on there. Unfortunately they cannot offer a swap or 'uplift program' to move from aquos to elite. Elite is viewed as a different brand and is not elligible for upgrade/uplift. Nor is the 80" 844u model which has looked ok with 3d test in 2 stores. He could potentially do a customer satisfaction swap to another 8470 but it would mean 3 weeks with no tv to do so and some approvals on my case since they are saying the tv is operating as it should.
I did force a firmware update over usb to try that idea. The update worked fine but nothing changed in terms of 3d ghosting/crosstalk.
At this point, I've already got a couple hundred invested in Sharp glasses so I'll probably try to get an elite if I can find a good deal on one. This whole ordeal has been painful with Sharp support. I honestly don't think anyone ever even tried to reproduce this problem. No engineer/tech was assigned in the case notes, just one person who commented as I stated above.

I have the same problem don't know what to do
post #1041 of 2449
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Originally Posted by gtbdevs View Post

Has anyone tried streaming Netflix and got ARC to work?
I have a Pioneer VSX-32 reciever which supports ARC, this TV, which says it does, yet can't get it to work. Have made the needed changes on the AVR, TV is set as manual says, but N/G.
Anybody have any luck?
TIA

Works great.
post #1042 of 2449
Don't know how many of you know about or were effected by the storm that passed thru the mid/east US Friday, but I was out of power and running on generatorfor a couple days. The Sharp performed without a hitch. It didn't even flinch at dirty power or low voltage. No noise, nothing. This is with it connected to a $10 power strip. No battery buffer or any other line conditioning.

Just thought you might wanna know.
post #1043 of 2449
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Originally Posted by davenrino View Post

Works great.

For the TV side, all that is needed is to use port HDMI1, and set ARC to auto, correct?

Thanks.
post #1044 of 2449
Hello just wanted to chime in as I just purchased a new Sharp LC-60C8470U from Costco online. Hopefully I will see it by the end of week. This is not my first Sharp as I currently have the LC-40LE810UN in my living room setup as we speak and love the PQ on this thing. I was a Samsung plasma owner before this and was thinking about getting the PN64E8000 but the price tag compared to the 60" Sharp made it a no brainer. While both techs has its strong points and disadvantages, the Sharp stood out the best for me as living in Hawaii I have a lot of windows in my house and plasma just wont stand up to that much light. I know the challenge in setting up the display for calibrations; in the 810 forum we had a hard time dialing in on the blue as well. It was pretty much due to the fact that the yellow subpixel was causing the issue, but we got some pretty good results and came close to getting the picture we wanted. So I look forward to this next challenge and will post my findings once my new toy arrives.
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What is the best AV setting for PS3 Blu-Ray movie watching? I like dynamic mode, but no one seems to mention it.

I've read through tons of settings and they recommend the AV setting of "Movie" but I feel like that setting is so dark with no pop.

I honestly like they dynamic mode the best. Why doesn't anyone user that mode when posting calibration settings? I also have to mention that I have mine set up in a bright living room with 4 windows and no way of keeping out sunlight past my blinds. Maybe that is why I like dynamic so much more. The quality seems so much better, and the brightness seems so much better.

I have a LC60LE847U
post #1046 of 2449
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Originally Posted by gtbdevs View Post

For the TV side, all that is needed is to use port HDMI1, and set ARC to auto, correct?
Thanks.

That is correct. I am connected to my Denon 891. You do need a Hi-bandwidth HDMI cable (1.4 I believe). I am using the cheap Costco Sapphire cable.
post #1047 of 2449
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Originally Posted by dordoron View Post

I have the same problem don't know what to do


Ok.. a few updates.

Sharp failed to call me back twice in a row on their commitments for case updates on the 3d crosstalk./ghosting issues. That plus the growing frustration with the clouding in my set made me return the tv to Costco. They were more than reasonable in refuding the purchase + warranty. I pulled the trigger on a 60" Elite the same day and have been happy since. The ghosting/crosstalk is noticably better on the Elite. No clouding, incredible contrast, and a much improved/smoother 3d plackback. Some areas that would pause for me before on the 8470 are butter smooth on the elite. My glasses all worked on the elite fine, so no loss in investment there.

I ordered a pair of Dimension Optics 3d glasses which the local Sharp rep said was the only OEM model they recommend for 2011/2012 models. I didn't notice any difference in the picture quality between that and the Sharp model 3d glasses. I would say it comes down to comfort as the Dimensional Optics glasses have a different shape and feel on your face. If you do not feel the Sharp glasses are comfortable these might be worth a try. The one downside to these glasses is that they do not have a 2d/3d switch on them. They do come with a decent hard case for protection.

As for my existing case with Sharp. They did call me back late on Friday when I was out of town (they have my cell as well but never use it). The case update was that the technician assigned to my case reproduced my problem using Tangled 3D bluray. He admitted they have an issue and they are going to try and address it with a firmware update for the tv. Good news for those of you who were waiting for an update. I won't close out my case as I hope they can improve the performance for everyone else here.

For now, I'll enjoy my elite. The only issue I have on that tv is an audio sync issue over hdmi to one of my components that I did not see on the 8470.

The kids 3d glasses have not arrived yet. There was a miscommunication between the vendor and I which hopefully is now resolved. The vendor had not tested the glasses with the 8470 or elite and was unsure if I wanted them shipped still. On his approved list was a sharp 835 and 925 series which should be compatible with both models from my research. I will update this thread after the glasses arrive and even test them on an 8470 or 845 to verify they work.
post #1048 of 2449
Wow - sorry to hear that Sharp dropped the ball on your 8470. Sometimes you have to stay on them to get results. I have a tech coming out later today to take a look at my 847 to send a report off to Sharp prior to replacing the unit due to excessive clouds. I did finally get this panel dialed in properly - see attached. It would be nice to watch something cloud free like your Elite. I have champagne tastes but am on a beer budget...biggrin.gif

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myoda and others,
don't get me wrong, this set is fantastic to watch, most of the time. right now there's just nothing in the 70 size between elite and 847/8470, and $5000 price difference. the 947 will hopefully fill that need, we can only hope.

Best,
jeff
post #1050 of 2449
Myoda,

Nice looking set there. Can you please post your settings. I think some people would actually like trying your settings out, including myself. I want to see how close your settings are to mine if you dont mind. Much appreciated!!
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