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post #1051 of 2660
Nice looking tv picture Myoda.
post #1052 of 2660
Thanks. Service tech came out yesterday and observed the same clouds that I see during the day. Was on the phone with Sharp during the visit. Sent pics to Sharp during the service call. Determined that there is an issue with the panel on all inputs. Waiting...
Did watch my first 3D movie last night - Monster House. It was bundled with the Sony BDP-S770 I picked up a few months ago. I can see now that having an 80 to 90 inch set would be a more realistic 3D experience, but it looked pretty good on the my lc70le847u, even with the clouds..

Has anyone posted their calibration settings in 3D mode? My settings are pretty basic.
Contrast +26
Brightness -5
Color -6
Tint +1
Sharpness +1
Color Gamut - Standard
Color Temp - Med High
Motion Enhancement - 120Hz High
all other enhancements off
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post #1053 of 2660
Thanks myoda. Those are hardly any clouds at all. I have seen some sets with crazy clouding. Mine is about half as your set as far as any clouding goes. I cant see any clouding unless if the room is 100% pitch black and then the clouds are barely visible. I can only see clouds if I was 3 feet from the set. Hell, who sits 3 feet from a 70 inch TV anyway? LOL. Maybe some people actually do, but then you can see the pixels. My distance is 9 feet away and the TV looks awesome with no clouds. I also have am ambient light on behind the TV when I watch movies. I installed a 30 foot rope light set behind the TV on a remote control system, which looks very sweet when watching movies. Just the right amount of light without any glare. I also painted the wall bright white shadow, so the light reflects off the wall behind the TV making it feel like a therate look.

Thanks for the settings. I would like to try those out. Looks like you have a very well lit room. Doesn't that window behind you bother the picture quality and viewing for you? That sunlight coming in would drive me crazy. eek.gif
post #1054 of 2660
Hey Myoda, what are your other settings on prior to the contrast (i.e. backlight)?

Thanks again for posting,
~K
post #1055 of 2660
Quote:
Originally Posted by myoda View Post

Contrast +26
Brightness -5
Color -6
Tint +1
Sharpness +1
Color Gamut - Standard
Color Temp - Med High
Motion Enhancement - 120Hz High
all other enhancements off

medium high color temp pushes blue massively. It's so high you can't correct down to anything close to D65K.

with daytime lighting (and we've got lots of western facing windows), I cannot see clouds on 2-4% stimulus windows. Only in a darkened room can I see them.
post #1056 of 2660
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Originally Posted by cjre1 View Post

Thanks myoda. Those are hardly any clouds at all. I have seen some sets with crazy clouding. Mine is about half as your set as far as any clouding goes. I cant see any clouding unless if the room is 100% pitch black and then the clouds are barely visible. I can only see clouds if I was 3 feet from the set. Hell, who sits 3 feet from a 70 inch TV anyway? LOL. Maybe some people actually do, but then you can see the pixels. My distance is 9 feet away and the TV looks awesome with no clouds. I also have am ambient light on behind the TV when I watch movies. I installed a 30 foot rope light set behind the TV on a remote control system, which looks very sweet when watching movies. Just the right amount of light without any glare. I also painted the wall bright white shadow, so the light reflects off the wall behind the TV making it feel like a therate look.
Thanks for the settings. I would like to try those out. Looks like you have a very well lit room. Doesn't that window behind you bother the picture quality and viewing for you? That sunlight coming in would drive me crazy. eek.gif

There is more light coming in from behind me than in front. I have pocket doors behind me that I keep closed to minimize the light hitting the screen from the dining room. Sounds like your panel is working well for you.
post #1057 of 2660
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Originally Posted by greeno View Post

medium high color temp pushes blue massively. It's so high you can't correct down to anything close to D65K.
with daytime lighting (and we've got lots of western facing windows), I cannot see clouds on 2-4% stimulus windows. Only in a darkened room can I see them.

It's possible since there are issues with this unit, that the color balance could be off. In previous sets, I found the low color temp setting imparted too much yellow to the image - wound up using middle color temp for the last 5 sets prior to this one.
post #1058 of 2660
Yes, I did adjust the factory settings...Looks best with 3D boost all the way up with 3d depth on "auto" mode. I like to keep my gamma at plus 1.
post #1059 of 2660
I finally gave in to accepting the clouding that's caused by this T.V. If you can only notice it during a very dark scene with low room lighting, it's not an issue at all. I am now on my 3rd 60LE847u due to the first two being defective. The first one would not display 3D content and would not recognize any 1080p input. After I got it replaced, the second one had 9 dead pixels. I'm now on my 3rd T.V., and like they say, third time's the charm smile.gif

All three of the units I owned had clouding issues including the one I currently have...I can only notice it when I have the lights off and during some scenes with a black background...I'm not going to let this bother me since I love everything else about the T.V. The clouding on your Sharp is not that bad...I guarantee that there is no perfect LED t.v. out there without local dimming that has no Clouding what so ever...

So, sit back and enjoy the hell out of your t.v.!
post #1060 of 2660
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Originally Posted by myoda View Post

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I've had a few exchanges - between Best Buy and Sharp, I am now on my 6th tv:
632-> 732-> 732 ->632 ->640 ->847
I'm running into an issue with the 847 with such bad clouding , that I can see it during the day. Sharp is now telling me that the set is operating within spec. Needless to say, I got a little hot under the collar. The clouding is worse on this set than the 640. Standing firm on having them replace this unit. I was also offered a refund in lieu of replacing this unit. Tried to watch the new Sherlock Holmes movie the other day, and the clouds were sitting on top of the picture. The image with the Starting Windows boot screen and input name is from the 640U - all the rest are from the 847 that was delivered this past Sunday. Wish me luck.
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I finally gave in to accepting the clouding that's caused by this T.V. If you can only notice it during a very dark scene with low room lighting, it's not an issue at all. I am now on my 3rd 60LE847u due to the first two being defective. The first one would not display 3D content and would not recognize any 1080p input. After I got it replaced, the second one had 9 dead pixels. I'm now on my 3rd T.V., and like they say, third time's the charm smile.gif
All three of the units I owned had clouding issues including the one I currently have...I can only notice it when I have the lights off and during some scenes with a black background...I'm not going to let this bother me since I love everything else about the T.V. The clouding on your Sharp is not that bad...I guarantee that there is no perfect LED t.v. out there without local dimming that has no Clouding what so ever...
So, sit back and enjoy the hell out of your t.v.!
post #1061 of 2660
Quote:
Originally Posted by cjre1 View Post

Thanks myoda. Those are hardly any clouds at all. I have seen some sets with crazy clouding. Mine is about half as your set as far as any clouding goes. I cant see any clouding unless if the room is 100% pitch black and then the clouds are barely visible. I can only see clouds if I was 3 feet from the set. Hell, who sits 3 feet from a 70 inch TV anyway? LOL. Maybe some people actually do, but then you can see the pixels. My distance is 9 feet away and the TV looks awesome with no clouds. I also have am ambient light on behind the TV when I watch movies. I installed a 30 foot rope light set behind the TV on a remote control system, which looks very sweet when watching movies. Just the right amount of light without any glare. I also painted the wall bright white shadow, so the light reflects off the wall behind the TV making it feel like a therate look.
Thanks for the settings. I would like to try those out. Looks like you have a very well lit room. Doesn't that window behind you bother the picture quality and viewing for you? That sunlight coming in would drive me crazy. eek.gif

I finally gave in to accepting the clouding that's caused by this T.V. If you can only notice it during a very dark scene with low room lighting, it's not an issue at all. I am now on my 3rd 60LE847u due to the first two being defective. The first one would not display 3D content and would not recognize any 1080p input. After I got it replaced, the second one had 9 dead pixels. I'm now on my 3rd T.V., and like they say, third time's the charm smile.gif
All three of the units I owned had clouding issues including the one I currently have...I can only notice it when I have the lights off and during some scenes with a black background...I'm not going to let this bother me since I love everything else about the T.V. The clouding on your Sharp is not that bad...I guarantee that there is no perfect LED t.v. out there without local dimming that has no Clouding what so ever...
So, sit back and enjoy the hell out of your t.v.!
post #1062 of 2660
Hi,

I'm returning my month old Sharp 70 which I bought from Costco due to having a black line about 4 pixels high running from left edge to about the half way across the screen:

450

I hope the replacement unit won't have worst issues.

SW
post #1063 of 2660
I had the same issue with the 745U within a week of buying the TV and exchanged for the 847U.
post #1064 of 2660
Quote:
Originally Posted by mavantix View Post

Has anyone else experienced an audio issue where the audio cuts out when changing channels with an external STB on HDMI with these models? Running latest firmware, it's definitely the TV and not the STB. Changing the input on the TV to something else and back "fixes" the no audio, but it's highly annoying.


Edit: looks like Sharp website has 260U firmware, but auto update reports 253U is latest...


Edit2: Updated firmware via USB, will report back about audio issue in a week or two.

I did experienced the same problem with my LC-60LE745U and took it back to the store. They upgraded me with the 847U model. I love this TV cant get enough and cant wait for the football season to watch it on 3D.
post #1065 of 2660
Greeno,

What type of AVR are you using? I am looking for something to upconvert my 1080i from my cablebox and it sounds like you have had some success.

Thanks
post #1066 of 2660
Hi Scottmn4,
I bought the onkyo 609 (last years model THX certified receiver with Audyssey). It has the marvel Qdeo video processor. I got it from amazon for $383 shipped. looks like amazon's out of them now. the 616 (this years model is avaliable from amazon for $410 and the next step down, 515, is $350). I'm brand loyal to onkyo since the mid 80's. I did buy the squaretrade 3 year warranty/insurance for $50 also, just in case. Although my last onkyo (575x) was 10 years old and still working fine, had no hdmi capability.

Since setting the receiver to output 1080p to the display, apparently has removed the annoying motion artifacts.

Best,
jeff
post #1067 of 2660
Thanks Jeff!

I just got my 70" Sharp last weekend, and it looks awesome, but one thing I noticed is that when watching golf, specifically when a ball is shown landing on a green/fairway, the ball seems to be doubled. I assume this is what you are referring to as "motion artifacts" and assume that upconverting via your AVR fixed this for you. Please confirm my understanding.

Thanks
post #1068 of 2660
Hi Scott,
I don't watch golf, but watch lots of baseball. before using the AVR, I did not have issues with the ball motion specifically. I had "judder" intermittently/unpredictably. motion on the screen would appear jerky and not smooth. it could be people running around, a pitcher walking up on the mound (legs would not move smoothly. back a bit in this thread, I mentioned that transformers (first one) on FX HD, was unwatchable. All of this was with any setting of the motion enhancement feature (off, 120Hz low, high, on up).

On a hunch that it was something in the stream from the cable box (which is set to output 1080i), I forced the receiver to output 1080p. Then the display should be doing no processing. note if you feed it 1080i or lower resolution, it will either de-interlace (in the case of 1080i) or upconvert (for 720p), or both (for resolutions less than 720p). this removes both the cable box and the display from the equation.

I'm happy now. Sometimes I think I'm seeing something, but it's just camera bounce. I watched the second matrix moving last night on AMC HD and it looked fantastic.

Hope this helps. Also note that having to work around "weaknesses" is not uncommon. one of my prior HDTV's (50'' toshiba 50hx81, a 2002 rptv), had terrible internal upconversion. the only work around was to feed it 1080i. This was easy on cable (comcast). For dvd play back which is 480i, I had to make sure I used dvd players that upconverted via component connections (the 50hx81 only had analog inputs, no dvi or newer). examples of these dvd players were some zeniths, lg and oppo's. Now I'm all HDMI and life is good on that front. (sorry for the digression).

Best,
jeff
post #1069 of 2660
Thread Starter 
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post #1070 of 2660
ok fellas....I need some help. I am interested in the Costco C8470 model. There are no decent reviews out there. I am also considering the Panny P60ST50 model or Samsung PN60E8000. Can anyone recommend one over the other? I have a dim lit room, with light control and watch TV mainly in evenings. Always in dark when sun falls too. I will run all sources through my onkyo nr808. Please chime in.

Thanks!! smile.gif
post #1071 of 2660
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Originally Posted by Gomez81 View Post

ok fellas....I need some help. I am interested in the Costco C8470 model. There are no decent reviews out there. I am also considering the Panny P60ST50 model or Samsung PN60E8000. Can anyone recommend one over the other? I have a dim lit room, with light control and watch TV mainly in evenings. Always in dark when sun falls too. I will run all sources through my onkyo nr808. Please chime in.
Thanks!! smile.gif

Go with the plasma, since you are watching in a dim room. I have three windows in my living room hence why I went with the sharp. As far as what plasma me personally I would go with the samsung as I am a bit partial to samsung, but I hear a lot of good things about the panasonic and there black levels.
post #1072 of 2660
In the 60'' size I'd recommend the panasonic 60ST50. It's a fantastic set, I have the ST30 (last years set in the bedroom). Check the numerous threads on it in the plasma forum. The ST gives you everything of the GT except for 2 THX viewing modes. The VT is a little step up.

If they made a 70'' in the ST/GT/VT line, I'd have bought that instead of the sharp led in a heartbeat. Dim room or not. By the way, the ST30 in my bedroom has tons of light and there's never an issue of watching it even in DIRECT sunlight shining on the screen (not optimal, but possible and watchable).

Best,
jeff
post #1073 of 2660
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Originally Posted by skiman24 View Post

Go with the plasma, since you are watching in a dim room. I have three windows in my living room hence why I went with the sharp. As far as what plasma me personally I would go with the samsung as I am a bit partial to samsung, but I hear a lot of good things about the panasonic and there black levels.

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Originally Posted by greeno View Post

In the 60'' size I'd recommend the panasonic 60ST50. It's a fantastic set, I have the ST30 (last years set in the bedroom). Check the numerous threads on it in the plasma forum. The ST gives you everything of the GT except for 2 THX viewing modes. The VT is a little step up.
If they made a 70'' in the ST/GT/VT line, I'd have bought that instead of the sharp led in a heartbeat. Dim room or not. By the way, the ST30 in my bedroom has tons of light and there's never an issue of watching it even in DIRECT sunlight shining on the screen (not optimal, but possible and watchable).
Best,
jeff

Thanks Guys.

I have 4 windows in my HT/Living room. I have outside solar shades and wood blinds on the inside. The room opens to the kitchen, where a little more light can come in, but i control well.
I really like the Costco return and extra year warranty. Might go with the 70, but most likely the 60, if i go with the LED. How are black levels, motion and 3d on these Sharps? My main concern on the plasma is heat and burn in. Plus, I want the TV to make a lasting impression. The ST has been touted on CNET to rival forthcoming OLED TV's. The clouding is a little disheartening for me on these Sharps

I should state I will mostly be watching Blurays and some 3d/2d gaming.
post #1074 of 2660
I agree that the costco return/extra year warranty is good. If you read back in this thread or any other of the sharp led threads, there are complaints about motion artifacts (I use my AVR to upconvert to 1080p so avoid this) and screen nonuniformity (at low light output levels aka flashlighting and clouding). The judder on my 70C8470U was bad (before using the AVR), with any choice for motion enhancement setting, even off.

With plasma its not burn in, but image retention (IR), people worry about. it's overblown a bit, unless you run your set in torch mode. Kinda like the old days of CRT's. Now if you game ALOT, it might be an issue, but my wife leaves our 50ST30 on a news channel with a ticker for hours on end and we've got no IR or burn-in. Also forget about the heat output. It's no worse than an old tube CRT.

My bottomline for you is:
* the amount of light you have is not an issue with either set. Costco offers no plasmas in 60'', only 50'' so if you buy there you're stuck with LED.
* I'd say buy at bestbuy, then you can get either technology with a simple return. Get the sharp. try it out, if you don't like it get the ST50.

Best,
jeff
post #1075 of 2660
Does anyone know the difference between Costco's Sharp Quattron 3D Model#LC-70C8470U and Sharp LC-70LE847U?

We found Sharp's Quattron 3D 240 HZ at RC Willey Model# LC-70LE847-LED-QP+3.

At Costco we found a similar Sharp Quattron 3D 240 HZ but the serial number is different, Sharp LC-70LE847U.

RC Willey said the tv at Costco is made specifically for Costco members but I wonder which is better and why.

Anyone know the difference or have any experience purchasing a tv at Costco or RC Willey?

Thanks!
post #1076 of 2660
i got a 60" 847u couple weeks ago. they gave me a 450u at first, they said they only had the one from a shipping error but had to have a new one shipped in:confused:. i inspected it while they were here and i had no dead pixels and clouding was hardly noticeable in the dark. i was switching from one source to another and noticed clouding with the lights on. its not to the point it effects viewing but in the short while ive had it im worried that its going to get worse. seems the 60" version has more problems than the 70"? i really like the display and payed almost msrp for it so if i can return it and do some hunting for a 70" for alittle more $ im willing to do it.
post #1077 of 2660
i been using this with my htpc and every now an then i notice the screen buzzing. i only notice it when im reading articles with white back ground and black text. i can only catch it around the edges of the letters. anyone else notice this?
post #1078 of 2660
Dear Audit5150,

Please look up all my posts regarding the difference between these models that I posted myself since May 2012. You will find what you are looking for.
post #1079 of 2660
Thought I'd throw this out for the collective community:

I'm still bothered by "judder" on some comcast HD cable networks. Since switching my receiver to output 1080p (onkyo 609), I almost never notice judder. BUT, i'm constantly perusing cable HD channels like G4, FX, AMC, MGM, TNT and occasionally find a movie that judders on motion.

With the receiver it's MUCH better than it was. Matrix 2 on AMC HD looked fantastic, War of the Worlds last night looked really good, but something I surfed onto last night (forget what it was last night) had some subtle judder in it.

I'm currently running movie mode with all enhancements off (film mode, motion enhancement, pixel plus, active contrast, energy savings,...).

What might I have set incorrectly to account for this? Might it be the specific HD cable broadcast? I've not gone to another set in my house to see if I can see it (like the panny 50ST30 plasma in the bedroom), but I'd bet it doesnt' do it as i've never seen anything like this before.

My current theory is that it's doing some processing and not doing it well. I'm just not sure what it doing. The AVR is de-interlacing (1080i output from cable box to AVR, AVR converts to 1080p and outputs to the TV) so there should be nothing for the set to do but display it. I have read that the sharps default to 60Hz refresh rate when aquomotion is off. Is is possible that 1080p is not a native refresh rate for this set? (not likely) is it possible that 60Hz is the issue?

Any ideas how to get to the bottom of this?

Best,
jeff
post #1080 of 2660
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by greeno View Post

Thought I'd throw this out for the collective community:
I'm still bothered by "judder" on some comcast HD cable networks. Since switching my receiver to output 1080p (onkyo 609), I almost never notice judder. BUT, i'm constantly perusing cable HD channels like G4, FX, AMC, MGM, TNT and occasionally find a movie that judders on motion.
With the receiver it's MUCH better than it was. Matrix 2 on AMC HD looked fantastic, War of the Worlds last night looked really good, but something I surfed onto last night (forget what it was last night) had some subtle judder in it.
I'm currently running movie mode with all enhancements off (film mode, motion enhancement, pixel plus, active contrast, energy savings,...).
What might I have set incorrectly to account for this? Might it be the specific HD cable broadcast? I've not gone to another set in my house to see if I can see it (like the panny 50ST30 plasma in the bedroom), but I'd bet it doesnt' do it as i've never seen anything like this before.
My current theory is that it's doing some processing and not doing it well. I'm just not sure what it doing. The AVR is de-interlacing (1080i output from cable box to AVR, AVR converts to 1080p and outputs to the TV) so there should be nothing for the set to do but display it. I have read that the sharps default to 60Hz refresh rate when aquomotion is off. Is is possible that 1080p is not a native refresh rate for this set? (not likely) is it possible that 60Hz is the issue?
Any ideas how to get to the bottom of this?
Best,
jeff
Is the cable box set to auto as in no processing done there ?
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