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post #1621 of 2660
I have a DishTV receiver without the DVR and occasionally get the problem as well. It has to do with signal interruption to the satellite, I think.
It always occurs after a glitch in the picture. A quick power off and back on with to satellite box fixes it with minimal interruption.
post #1622 of 2660
had my 60le847u for about 5 months and not one problem out of it. i did have some issues with 3d on ps3. i have since bought a sony 3d player and ps3 glasses. pre-pro isnt 1.4hdmi so i have toshlink from player to pre-pro and hdmi to tv. got the warrany from sharp and if my set craps out on me i will try to opt out with a check. figure the 80" might be cheaper by then and it will make a good down payment for one, if sharp is still around.

i had a plasma before and still think the plasma has a better picture. but the sharp is ok with the lights off and it doesnt act like a heater. my old plasma put off alot of heat lol. also i like that the sharp uses less power even with eco mode off. my biggest improvemnt i made with the tv was getting a cyber power ups. picture got a bit sharper i could tell with the naked eye. i do have clouding but only notice it if there is no signal going to the tv. like when i change inputs or after my htpc tuns off and the tv is still on. it usually turns off back lighting now, guessing it was in one of the updates so you dont have time to take a pic tongue.gif. never had a problem loading an update over wifi either.
post #1623 of 2660
Ah, DeadEd, I have read many others attribute this problem being solved by the latest Sharp software upgrade and also by ensuring the settings are correct on their set top box. Seeing you have been a member for a while, youmay not be aware theat there have been some newer model boxes as I found out having just receved my set. One senior member was giving me instructions on how to resent my sound on a menu and we were puzzeled as I couldn't get to this seemingly hidden menu. Turns out I had a recently released DVR bos that no longer had the same menu and were tring to do something with different menus. However, In BOTH, cases, there was noting wrong with the boxes, only the settings which were easily changed if you knew what to do ...... often the solution. IMHO, as much of this lag that goes on with all cable providers, with different boxes, at such varied times and sometimes no times, I don't think it is a box problem but simply a system problem. All the cable boxes and cable networks can't be "bad" yet users on all the systems and using differing boxes are spradically experiencing problems. I think that the video quality being broadcast qualuty (bits)is exceeding the recording and re display ability of all the boxes processors and depending on what quality video and sound you are recording is sometimes too much for the processor in the dvr. I am not a techie or engineer but I don't know how to explain the complete randomness of the occurences from system to system, carrier to carrier and program to prpgram and time of day to time of day. And then ad in you can stopt the same recording and restart it and it's ok.
So, I don't think writing off ever DVR box as defective is the solution although it may be in a very few cases. After all they are only an internal hard drive that is better cooled and used less and spins slower than that in your computer and how often do they fail?
post #1624 of 2660
^^^
You may be right. I may be wrong. I hope that updating the firmware works. It's also possible that if you have a receiver it may not be keeping up. I understand how frustrating it can be to have the audio sync off but just a bit. Maybe it was just coincidence that my problem has been gone since swapping out the cable box. Good luck with yours. I hope you get it sorted out.
post #1625 of 2660
I've gone through this entire thread and am about to pull the trigger on a LC-70C8470U from Costco but I still have one reservation that you guys can help me with. 3-D performance is really important to me as I enjoy it a lot and I create my own content with a 3-D camcorder. So, I would like to get you guys experiences with ghosting/crosstalk on this model. Back around June member jhuehne was very disappointed with the 3-D quality of his set and I'm wondering if updates have improved the 3-D quality since that time. Have you noticed bad crosstalk on Monsters vs. Aliens, Hugo, Tangled, Meet The Robinsons or Polar Express? These titles seem to have a lot of problem scenes. Unfortunately at stores its hard to get them to run their demo sets in 3-D or to even switch the picture from torch mode. Any comments would be helpful.
post #1626 of 2660
I have not watched those, but I noticed no problems on Prometheus, The Avengers, or MIB III. I've not seen any animated BDs except for Lorax which was fine. I hope that helps a little.
post #1627 of 2660
i had problems with 3d at first. ps3 through avr then to tv i got horrible dross talk on hugo. so much so i didnt even mess with it again. i have since got a sony 3d player and ps3 glasses hooked strait to tv with optical from player to avr. i didnt try the sharp glasses so i cant say wich is better. i watched abe lincoln vampire hunter and i had to look over the top just to make sure it was still in 3d a few times. it was alot better from the past setup and i dint have any eye strain. i did notice a few times of ghosting but were minimal and could be i sit to close to tv. they say it gets better further back you are.
post #1628 of 2660
Ed, please accept my apology if you believe I was indicating you were wrong. If the box exchange solved your problem, obviously that and the other evets that also happened did fix your problem, hopefully, and it will be great if it doesn't reappear. When you swapped boxes, you also started with a clean hard drive which always seems to run better. I don't know if you got the newest box but at least here in Florida, I believe the newest being given out and supoosedly in limited supply (according to my installer) is the QIP 7232.2. I think a lot are still using the QIP 7232. which has a differnt menu and, I believe a diffent size HD. Some of the tech specs look different but I don't understand a lot of that stuff so I don't know how significant some of the "changes" are. This is one of the things I was referring to about the software running the HD being able to keep up with the HiDef and the demands of our TV.

I'm glad that your act of the box switch and what ever else happened in the process worked for you and hope it sticks. Beleive me I did not mean to in any way to reflect that your sugggestion was wrong. My only intention was to reflect that there has been so many "solutions" offered and that the synptoms have been so varied and sporadic that if someone is experiencing this problem, they may want to to try some of the DIY solutions before giving up there box any any thing they might have recorded. The exception would of course be when thay have an obvios box failure.

It's good that everyone offers their experiences and what they have tried AND what the resuls were because thats how we can all learn. And sometimes we learn we can do the same thing and have different results!

Best of luck!
post #1629 of 2660
Okay, I was ready to pull the trigger on the 70" 8470U because it had the "Automotion" backlight scanning and the 847U does not. Then I stumbled onto this forum and am reading about all these issues. Clouding, picture judder, red bar, etc... I have a 55" Samsung 5 series and have a beautiful picture and none of these issues, or any issues at all for that matter. I can get a Samsung 8 series 65" for a few hundred more, but I have room for the Sharp 70" and have been impressed with the picture I see on the displays in the store, and the accompaning features. Then I read about a specialist someone called in who, unless I totally misunderstood, turned off the Quad color feature of the 8 series as well as turning back the native refresh to 120, and disabling the backlight refresh. Do i really want to buy this product? Is the 7 series better eventhough it is back leveled? Seems what the specilist did to the 847 was to reset it to the 7 series? What am I missing. Great forum and thread by the way, I wait for your replies.
post #1630 of 2660
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Originally Posted by SFMike View Post

I've gone through this entire thread and am about to pull the trigger on a LC-70C8470U from Costco but I still have one reservation that you guys can help me with. 3-D performance is really important to me as I enjoy it a lot and I create my own content with a 3-D camcorder. So, I would like to get you guys experiences with ghosting/crosstalk on this model. Back around June member jhuehne was very disappointed with the 3-D quality of his set and I'm wondering if updates have improved the 3-D quality since that time. Have you noticed bad crosstalk on Monsters vs. Aliens, Hugo, Tangled, Meet The Robinsons or Polar Express? These titles seem to have a lot of problem scenes. Unfortunately at stores its hard to get them to run their demo sets in 3-D or to even switch the picture from torch mode. Any comments would be helpful.

SF Mike - was out your way last week in Cupertino - enjoyed the weather very much. I've had 0 issues with crosstalk on my 847. Owned it since June. Best thing to do to demo 3D is to bring your own material to evaluate the picture. Have not yet seen the movies you mentioned, but the best use of 3D I've seen in my small, but budding collection are:

Madagascar 3
Avatar
Puss in Boots
Prometheus
Monster House 3D

Not so impressive 3D:
Green Lantern
I Robot
The Avengers

It's difficult to properly check out the 3D aspect of a set in Costco - usually, you have to look up on the shelf towards the tv, not the best angle. Most of the time, the 3D glasses are tethered to the display, so your viewing range is limited. Why not bring in your 3-D camcorder and connect it to the set you are thinking about?
post #1631 of 2660
To the Irishman, welcome to the site. I read your post with interest as being a relatively new owner of an 847u I didn't realize there was an 847ou. So I did go the Sharp website and saw the three listed differences. Interesting that the list price is the same. One was the included 3d glasses, the second was the 1 vs 2 component video inputs and the third was the refresh rate where the ou reflected 480 vs the u' "n/a." Now I am not a electronics tech guy but I am assuming that you you are referring to the "AquoMotion" settings in your post. If that is the case, apparently the "ou" set has either the option or preset ( I would guess options like the u) of a "480" setting, where the "u" set has a "240,'a"Aquomotion240", a "120. high'" a "120. low'" and an "off " setting. Now from what I have read, as sets get above about 50 inches, a refresh rate of at least 120 becomes important and 240 becomes desireable. Interesting though how many of the Sony, samsung, etc hifh line sets in the 50 and 60 inch still have 120 refresh rates. Only Samsungs very top end has now gone to 240.I have yet to see much written about the need of a refresh rate of 480 being needeed for any of the currenty quality of video available. I am also unaware of anyone offering it so I was surprised to see this. That is of course assuming I am reading Sharps spec sheet correctly.

Now my caveat is of course is that I interpreted what you were talking about re the 480 and my current understanding of the refresh rates needed for available video,
post #1632 of 2660
the higher refresh rates give off a soap opera effect were everything is shown in finer detail. most people are use to older displays that have the back ground as fuzzy or out of focus to give a feeling of depth. i like to have it at 120high when i watch movies just because i find myself focusing on parts of a frame rather than it as a whole with the higher 240. im sure this is just how we are conditioned from using older displays. i do turn it up when i game. being able to spot an enemy without zooming in gives me a bit of an edge lol.

i also just watched brave and i could tell difference between the sharp glasses and ps3 glasses. the sharp ones gave a washed out look and wasnt as clear as the ps3 ones. the ps3 ones do have a bit of reflection in the bottom corners but i didnt notice it really when i was watching the movie. tried to pause it and switch glasses but my player kicks out of 3d then i pause it.
post #1633 of 2660
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Originally Posted by myoda View Post

SF Mike - was out your way last week in Cupertino - enjoyed the weather very much. I've had 0 issues with crosstalk on my 847. Owned it since June. Best thing to do to demo 3D is to bring your own material to evaluate the picture. Have not yet seen the movies you mentioned, but the best use of 3D I've seen in my small, but budding collection are:
Madagascar 3
Avatar
Puss in Boots
Prometheus
Monster House 3D
Not so impressive 3D:
Green Lantern
I Robot
The Avengers
It's difficult to properly check out the 3D aspect of a set in Costco - usually, you have to look up on the shelf towards the tv, not the best angle. Most of the time, the 3D glasses are tethered to the display, so your viewing range is limited. Why not bring in your 3-D camcorder and connect it to the set you are thinking about?

Thanks myoda for the info. Yes it sure is hard to get a good 3D demo of a set at Costco or Best Buy so your experience is appreciated. Taking the camera in is a good idea.....might give it a try. Nice pictures of you AV setup.
post #1634 of 2660
Bought a 70LE847U Wednesday. Had it delivered today.

Three and a half hours of watching the TV begins to flicker and the screen goes dark. I bounced it from one channel and back and the video came back but a few minutes later, the flickering began again and teh TV again went dark.

It still had sound.

TV at that point would not display any menu items and subsequently, there was no way to see what inputs you were on.

Sales man from Conn's was at our door 15 minutes after a call to check out the TV and determined that there was a problem with the set.

I am sick abou this. Someone, please tell me that Ihaven't just bought a dud of a TV!!!
post #1635 of 2660
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Originally Posted by txredxj View Post

i had problems with 3d at first. ps3 through avr then to tv i got horrible dross talk on hugo. so much so i didnt even mess with it again. i have since got a sony 3d player and ps3 glasses hooked strait to tv with optical from player to avr. i didnt try the sharp glasses so i cant say wich is better. i watched abe lincoln vampire hunter and i had to look over the top just to make sure it was still in 3d a few times. it was alot better from the past setup and i dint have any eye strain. i did notice a few times of ghosting but were minimal and could be i sit to close to tv. they say it gets better further back you are.

Just out of curiosity, was your avr 3D passthru compatible? did it support 1.4 hdmi?
post #1636 of 2660
I love this TV, but having some problems watching mpeg-encoded video off my home theatre PC. The picture is pretty stuttery (I guess judder). Turning on 120Hz motion or aquomotion doesn't help. The end result is the picture constantly cycles between juddery and SOE every couple seconds. Anybody know how to fix it? My other sources look fine, PS3 and xbox. I'm watching the HTPC standard mode. I'm guessing it's probably the software I use to play the shows, but I've had a Samsung and LG before this with no problems.
post #1637 of 2660
avr was 3d 1.4 hdmi and high speed cables. i never tried it strait into tv from ps3. i have heard ps3 is kind of flaky with movies but i had no problem with games.
post #1638 of 2660
To bmwpc, thanks for your input, and yes, I did mean "Aquomotion" and the 480hz backlight refresh. I am no electronics guru by any streech of the imagination either. However, the calibration guru involved earlier in the thred appeared to turn the backlight refresh off and turn the native processor rate down to 120hx, and turned off the "Quad pixel plus" feature on the 847u. Again, I may have totally misunderstood. So my question from that was did I understand correctly, and if so, would I be better off getting the 70LE745U that does not have "Aquomotion", Quad Pixel Plus", and if I am correct, has full screen backlighting as opposed to edge only on the 847's?
post #1639 of 2660
Ordered mine today with delivery for next week. Been lurking for a while and picked up some good advice here. Hope to have minimal problems on set up when it arrives. Nothing to do now but wait...
post #1640 of 2660
I have a stand alone 3d blu ray player and have had no issues. I have only wathced 2 movies. Avengers and transformers dark of the moon. Both were good!
post #1641 of 2660
I was curious about some of your guys opinions for me. This is a decision that is driving me absolutely mad and I'm having a hard time figuring out what to do.

I currently own a PN50C8000 Samsung Plasma, I've had it about 2 years now, and I absolutely love this TV, everyone awes over how great it looks, even myself. After 2 years I really have yet to see a TV in a store or a local friends that catches my eye and really makes me think, hey i'd love to replace my sammy with that.

I've recently become a console gamer, I've been a PC gamer solely for the past 13 years, but with the kinnect for myself, my wife and daughter along with FORZA/Call of duty I've swung to the dark side of consoles eek.gif

The samsung overall is not a bad TV to game with, GAME MODE MUST BE TURNED ON, otherwise there is noticeable input lag, but navigating to the game mode menu is a royal PITA. I do get some light ghosting for long periods of time, and I'm okay with that, but still it makes me nervous at times when I leave the console on and walk away in a hurry if I have to run out.

I have been thinking of getting a bigger TV, and wanting to go towards LED/LCD because of the gaming I've been doing, this TV is one that keeps catching my eye, I have seen many sharps in the stores and as much as I love samsung I've always thought they looked brilliant, even when being able to mess with settings/turn on movie mode etc.

I am really thinking of getting the 60" of this TV, but the clouding and spotting makes me extremely nervous, I can hardly find an LCD TV that can compare to the shaprness and depth my plasma gives, and I'm afraid of making a 2 thousand dollar mistake.

Is there anyone in here that has substantial experience with plasma and has this TV and can tell me if I'd be satisfied with this TV?
post #1642 of 2660
Anyone know how to access the ''timer'' on the 70C8470U?

The store I bought it from were back order on this one for the next couple of weeks and I accepted to go with the demo since it looked mint after my personnal inspection... The clerk told me it was setup in late August and has been running everyday since then but I want to make sure he didn't lie to me by checking the number of hours the set has been running total so far since it was manufactured...

I know my ST50 can display that when going to a specific spot in the service menu: anyway to do that too with a 70C8470U ?
post #1643 of 2660
I just got the 60 inch today. Excuse me for being a noob with this ridiculous question but...I want to improve the picture and I've seen people post settings here in this thread. Can I just go through the menus and input these settings or do I need some special equipment or CD? I don't want to screw anything up.

Thanks
post #1644 of 2660
I just bought the sharp 70 inch Model: LC-70LE845U. I had a 55 inch Samsung plasma. Do I need to get this LED tv calibrated? Doesn't look that great to me!! Sports look like crap!! Who do I use to calibrate it? Please help!!
post #1645 of 2660
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Originally Posted by holliday28 View Post

I just bought the sharp 70 inch Model: LC-70LE845U. I had a 55 inch Samsung plasma. Do I need to get this LED tv calibrated? Doesn't look that great to me!! Sports look like crap!! Who do I use to calibrate it? Please help!!
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Originally Posted by Urobulus View Post

Anyone know how to access the ''timer'' on the 70C8470U?
The store I bought it from were back order on this one for the next couple of weeks and I accepted to go with the demo since it looked mint after my personnal inspection... The clerk told me it was setup in late August and has been running everyday since then but I want to make sure he didn't lie to me by checking the number of hours the set has been running total so far since it was manufactured...
I know my ST50 can display that when going to a specific spot in the service menu: anyway to do that too with a 70C8470U ?

Search through this thread for user calibrations. Or google ISF calibrators in your area. If this panel was a display, it is probably:
In Store mode
Dynamic mode is more than likely engaged also.

As far as the hours logged on this set since it's been an open item, your best bet would be to call Sharp - there might be an easier way to extract the hour count data without getting into the service menu.
post #1646 of 2660
Well I am pretty much sold on this TV. I went into a local home theater store along with a big box store (best buy). I was able to play with both TVs, use a thumb drive loaded with 1080P content I've used in the past to look at HDTVs. Trailers that display colorful and details scenes along with very dark scenes. I was quite impressed with the TV. I will admit I was looking at the samsung ES8000 LED and it does have a little bit of an edge, the glossy panel really adds some depth and blackness to the picture, but side by side the 70" is just so massive and brilliant looking.

I was able to view both TV's with dark inputs selected and on one of them there was MINIMAL clouding, I mean I had to have my face up to the screen at a bit of an angle (45* or so) to see it. Seeing this TV in person made me feel MUCH better about buying it. It hardly is a sharp and deep looking in its detail as any Plasma, but I am willing to sacrifice a little bit of that depth for the 70" screen.

The local store allowed me to dim the lights, it was about what my room is normally, and at -6 brightness the picture looked perfect and you could hardly tell the lights were on, blacks looked black. Can't wait to get mine, unfortunately it looks like it may be a few weeks before it gets here, and I am EXTREMELY impatient, I could have had the Sammy ES8000 tonight, but I really want the sharp and wasn't going to settle.
post #1647 of 2660
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Originally Posted by SportsSnob View Post

I just got the 60 inch today. Excuse me for being a noob with this ridiculous question but...I want to improve the picture and I've seen people post settings here in this thread. Can I just go through the menus and input these settings or do I need some special equipment or CD? I don't want to screw anything up.
Thanks

nope...give them a try, that's why a lot of guys post them. You can't hurt anything in the user menus. If your a little nervous just write down what settings you have now before making any changes.
post #1648 of 2660
Topr, welcome, have no fear, your safety net is the last selection "reset" . It will reset all the selections to the factory setting to their original dial ins. Of course the down side is you will loose any changes you have made as it resets all choices so make sure you do write dowm any you do like. Its odd but some times after I mess with some settings or input some other recommendations and watch for awhile I do a reset and realize I like the original better... for a while. Thats the fum you can play with the setting and always have that safety net of the reset. Enjoy!
post #1649 of 2660
What is the best way to clean the screen of this TV?
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What is the best way to clean the screen of this TV?
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