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post #1711 of 2660
Hi all,

I'm hoping to get the 70" version of this for Christmas (or shortly thereafter) and am curious about how owners have this installed. (I've searched the thread and didn't find much, other than a few recent posts). I would love to put this on one of those "4-in-1" type stands that have a low cabinet and a mount that can either be attached or separately wall-mounted. I can't find any that say they will accommodate a screen this large, though. Is anyone using something like that?
post #1712 of 2660
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Originally Posted by bmwpc View Post

Uh, Eddie E, I wouldn't be looking for a lot of sympathy here. You might want to go up a couple posts and read the one by ngwest36. Best of luck and look forward to your posting of YOUR observations or experiences. But please give youself some time to enjoy the set instead of worrying about which camp you may end up in. Besides, apart from returning the set, its like death and taxes, you can't stop anything from happening anyway.
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I wasn't really looking for sympathy. Just putting in my 2¢ I guess. As you say I will enjoy the Sharp and hope that if there are any problems they will happen within the next 3 weeks giving me time to return it. I was at Best Buy today and saw the LG I was going to purchase right next to the BB version of the Sharp on display. They looked very similar so at least I know that one is not a big improvement over the other as far as display quality.
post #1713 of 2660
Can someone elaborate on how to access the RGB high and low end settings for the LC-70LE847U? My brother just got this TV and we wanted to try calibrating the grayscale with our Eye-One Display LT. I didn't see anything in the picture menu to do this. Will I have to enter a service menu?

We did find the Color Management System (CMS) adjustments settings in the menu though, so we'll be trying our hand at that.

Thanks.
post #1714 of 2660
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Originally Posted by s2mikey View Post

The paint roller thing was rather tongue in cheek. No need to go on a two paragraph ethics lesson though. I would like to get a larger set and am finding it harder than I thought. Not my fault that five year old sets are still performing at a high level and some of us need more than just a "big screen man". There are a lot of sets with gimmick after gimmick that simply don't look good when compared to a top plasma . That's all.

Nice try. Your posting had nothing to do with ethics only of boorish behavior. Not quite sure what your quoted "big screen man" quote is from unless that is another misquote like the cNet review you reported. I did say I was new to the big screen SCEEN, perhaps you misread that also. Unlike yourself, I was admiting my unfamiliarity with some of the subject matter,ie the paint roller, unlike you comment which served no purpose but to poke fun at another poster.

And today's comment "Not my fault that five year old sets are still performing at a high level and There are a lot of sets with gimmick after gimmick that simply don't look good when compared to a top plasma ." Yup, as I posed once before, it does now truly appear that you are, "Oh Noooooooo" (courtesy of SNL's MR. Bill), simply just another owner of an aging Kuro. If you like you set fine, but wouldn't you be better served by posting on their board. I'm sure they will appreciate your high fives and fist bumps on how well your five year old set still work. I've read some of their posts and it's very entertaining.

Not that it matters to me but why would you even be looking for a new set? Just bottom feeding with us Sharp owners? Please, if you want to read about the Sharps please quit boring us about how poor you think it compares to you five year old set, we already bought ours and we aren't interested in buying your Kuro when you unload it.

And to clarify, this isn't an ethics lesson either, despite your misquotes and misstatements. This is simply a request to keep the board about the Sharp 800's. Although another valueless reply will likely follow, I don't intend to reply to this Kuroite again per orders from Mr. Bill. Oh Nooooooooooooo.
Edited by bmwpc - 12/11/12 at 11:36am
post #1715 of 2660
rgb hi gain/drives and lo gain/cuts are in the temperature settings, advanced picture settings, color temp. start with low. you can use a 2 point or a 10 point.
post #1716 of 2660
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Originally Posted by greeno View Post

rgb hi gain/drives and lo gain/cuts are in the temperature settings, advanced picture settings, color temp. start with low. you can use a 2 point or a 10 point.

Thanks a lot. I'll check it out.
post #1717 of 2660
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Originally Posted by Meteor|WAR View Post

Thanks a lot. I'll check it out.

I'll note that if your friend is using an instrument, you'll want the 10 point. it'll take a couple passes through to get them all good. start by getting them "close", roughly, then you'll get it down to +/- one click.

if you're doing CMS also, then you'll have to go back to grayscale after you do CMS as they do interact. at least twice through and you'll be all set.

Best,
jeff
post #1718 of 2660
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Originally Posted by bmwpc View Post

Nice try. Your posting had nothing to do with ethics only of boorish behavior. Not quite sure what your quoted "big screen man" quote is from unless that is another misquote like the cNet review you reported. I did say I was new to the big screen SCEEN, perhaps you misread that also. Unlike yourself, I was admiting my unfamiliarity with some of the subject matter,ie the paint roller, unlike you comment which served no purpose but to poke fun at another poster.
And today's comment "Not my fault that five year old sets are still performing at a high level and There are a lot of sets with gimmick after gimmick that simply don't look good when compared to a top plasma ." Yup, as I posed once before, it does now truly appear that you are, "Oh Noooooooo" (courtesy of SNL's MR. Bill), simply just another owner of an aging Kuro. If you like you set fine, but wouldn't you be better served by posting on their board. I'm sure they will appreciate your high fives and fist bumps on how well your five year old set still work. I've read some of their posts and it's very entertaining.
Not that it matters to me but why would you even be looking for a new set? Just bottom feeding with us Sharp owners? Please, if you want to read about the Sharps please quit boring us about how poor you think it compares to you five year old set, we already bought ours and we aren't interested in buying your Kuro when you unload it.
And to clarify, this isn't an ethics lesson either, it's a request to keep our board about our Sharp 800's as I don't intend to reply to this Kuroite again per orders from Mr. Bill. Oh Nooooooooooooo.

Ok then. Thanks. Sorry I hurt your feelings and all that. I didn't realize it was such an emotional, personal issue for you. I wish you the best.
post #1719 of 2660
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Originally Posted by greeno View Post

I'll note that if your friend is using an instrument, you'll want the 10 point. it'll take a couple passes through to get them all good. start by getting them "close", roughly, then you'll get it down to +/- one click.
if you're doing CMS also, then you'll have to go back to grayscale after you do CMS as they do interact. at least twice through and you'll be all set.
Best,
jeff

I appreciate the tips. We're going to shoot for giving it a shot Sunday afternoon before the Patriots/49'ers game.

My main concern is we're using an older Eye-One Display LT meter and I'm aware their accuracy drifts over time. We'll see how it goes.
post #1720 of 2660
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Originally Posted by drhjean View Post

Hi all,
I'm hoping to get the 70" version of this for Christmas (or shortly thereafter) and am curious about how owners have this installed. (I've searched the thread and didn't find much, other than a few recent posts). I would love to put this on one of those "4-in-1" type stands that have a low cabinet and a mount that can either be attached or separately wall-mounted. I can't find any that say they will accommodate a screen this large, though. Is anyone using something like that?

I used a standard low profile wall mount and seemed to work fine. got it for 40 bucks on black friday.

post #1721 of 2660
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Originally Posted by drhjean View Post

Hi all,
I'm hoping to get the 70" version of this for Christmas (or shortly thereafter) and am curious about how owners have this installed. (I've searched the thread and didn't find much, other than a few recent posts). I would love to put this on one of those "4-in-1" type stands that have a low cabinet and a mount that can either be attached or separately wall-mounted. I can't find any that say they will accommodate a screen this large, though. Is anyone using something like that?

I use a plateau, SR-V-75. It was one of the only stands on the market with enclosed shelving that is deep enough to accommodate my receiver (Yamaha RX-A2010) . If you don't have huge equipment though, there are plenty of similar competitors on the market.

If you wall mount, I strongly encourage you to get one with "fine tuning" leveling. My Sanus mount can't be fined tuned, and I found it difficult to get the leveling absolutely perfect.
post #1722 of 2660
Atren, that's a nice setup. Did you build that shelving yourself? It looks great. I built a riser to sit on my cabinet to hold a center channel speaker. It's not a beautiful job, and I am not much of a carpenter.

Chad, that's a nice stand. I hadn't seen a stand that would accommodate a large center channel (I will be purchasing an Aperion Verus Grand center). So I figured wall-mounting would be the best option so that the center would sit on top of the shelving. I would prefer open shelving to closed cabinets both for ventilation and access, but this gives me more to consider.

Thank you both for responding. I appreciate it.
post #1723 of 2660
Well everyone I did it!!! I pirchased the 847u in 60 and got to say I am loving the picture more than with the samsung 7100 I just returned......even is SD the picture looks so clean.....my wife even stated there was a huge difference.....thanks to all for the info......now a couple questions

The 847u is a 240 hz tv this I know gives the HD channels that soap opera look......is there a setting somewhere to turn that soap opera appearance off


Sometimes during fast scenes there is a judder affect.......can this be cleaned up a bit?


And last.......I have noticed that when watching HBO for example that during a movie, mouthing and voice are perfect......but then during regular programing it looks as if he voice is delayed.....so I see them talk then hear voice a second later....im scratching my head on this one
post #1724 of 2660
Okay so I get my 70LE847U today.

Only a couple hours in and trying multiple settings...

CGGorman I just want to say thank you, the latest settings you posted in this thread (not the game settings of course) bring the picture extremely close to my plasma (outside of the depth my plasma brings and a bit more naturual looking color IMO)

Though I have all of the true motion, film modes turned off, it looks as though my tv still has "true motion" at times, you notice a random skip or stutter and then it seems normal. Does not matter what you play through, satellite box, streaming content or Blu-Ray
post #1725 of 2660
Adding on to my above post, its almost like in "slow" moving scenes where the cameras moving the TV tries to still use True Motion even though its off and then once things pick up it goes back to normal.. in between scenes like this its like it "freezes" for a split second before going back to normal, almost like its constantly trying to turn it on and off
post #1726 of 2660
Shady........started to read the entire thread and have found on thevadvanced setting i turned motion enhancement off......and then scrolled down to film mode and turned off also......seems to have helped me.........but dont we want something on under the motion enhancement setting?? Again i have it off at the moment


Also........I have noticed when playing with settings sometimes i loose all volume.......its as if TV is set to mute.......I have toturn off TV then turn back on to get volume
post #1727 of 2660
Both true motion and film mode is off, and yet it still seems at times that the TV is trying to switch between having those settings on and off. I was watching something on my blu ray player, google tv PLEX server, and directv box and at times it seemed fine, but sometimes during panning scenes it appears that true motion comes on briefly and everything is smoothed out, causing these little tiny stutters in the picture.
post #1728 of 2660
The only mode that does not do what I described is game mode... mad.gif
post #1729 of 2660
Ok so it looks as if the soap opera affecting alnd juddering are not an issue and easily fixed by just turning some settings to off.......


But......I still have one issue.......the lip syncing issue/ losing volume all together.......I have an HDMI cable running from cable box(verizon fios) to tv......i am using the 2nd HDMI port on the tv......overall I am lovin this TV so far...by far better than the samsung
post #1730 of 2660
^^^
For me the lip sync problem was fixed with a new cable box. It really should not be the TV doing this. Does it happen with DVDs? Sometimes the AVR can cause issues and most of them have controls to adjust lip sync, but then you'd be seeing all the time. Also your post says your line is going right from the cable box to the TV so that can't be it. Do you have another HDMI cable to try? A bad cable should not cause a lip sync issue but it could be a cause for losing sound. Do you have another cable box in the house that you can switch for this one and see if it still does it?
post #1731 of 2660
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Originally Posted by Shady195 View Post

Both true motion and film mode is off, and yet it still seems at times that the TV is trying to switch between having those settings on and off. I was watching something on my blu ray player, google tv PLEX server, and directv box and at times it seemed fine, but sometimes during panning scenes it appears that true motion comes on briefly and everything is smoothed out, causing these little tiny stutters in the picture.

Have you tried different refresh rates? (and/or turning them off?) Search the forums and try and find some user settings to get a full list of "enhancements" that you should turn off.
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Originally Posted by Survivorman View Post

But......I still have one issue.......the lip syncing issue/ losing volume all together.......I have an HDMI cable running from cable box(verizon fios) to tv......i am using the 2nd HDMI port on the tv......overall I am lovin this TV so far...by far better than the samsung

This may be a Verizon FiOS problem. Mine was solved by using a different HDMI input. I've also read that it can be solved by entering an alternative "service mode" on the FiOS box and changing the sound output (I believe to LPCM mode). I was never able to do it though. I sometimes get lip sync issues with blu-ray as well, however my receiver can compensate for it. The problem though, is that I swear different sound formats (e.g. DTS vs. Dolby) have different sync delays, which is horrendous.
post #1732 of 2660
It has to be the TV ..... Ijust had a samsung for a couple weeksand it never did this...also my toshiba of 8 yrs never did this......my HDMI CABLE is new and was,swapped from the samsung......how do Iset my verizon box to LPCM mode??
post #1733 of 2660
Played with it for hours, tried multiple settings, turning them on/off again etc..


Only mode that completely rids of the soap opera effect is game mode. I looked through every menu and everything relation to motion enhancement/film mode is turned off
post #1734 of 2660
Also, I will report that after a few hours at one point I finally did notice some Faint clouding, and I mean FAINT

I had to turn all the lights off so it was pitch black in my room and turn the backlight up to around +10 to see it. Under my normal viewing conditions which is around -5 for me (even with all the lights on in my room which I might add makes my room very very bright and a lot of reflection on my old plasma and a little on the LCD, -5 is plenty bright for me and about what my plasmas brightness was)

Aside from the fact for the time being I will need to keep my TV in game mode to keep the SOE completely off, I am very happy with this TV, I'll post up some pictures soon.
post #1735 of 2660
game mode is a little "jacked"up in terms of color balance, pushing blue. I'm running movie mode calibrate with calman 4.0 and and i1Display 3. there is no SOE effect. might you be seeing DSE instead?
post #1736 of 2660
No its not DSE.... How can you confuse me explaining the effect I am experiencing with DSE?

The picture appears to constantly shift from being smoothed to normal to smoothed to normal depending on the scene and the ammount of movement. It is just like if you turned the SOE on and off throughout a scene and the picture jerks as it corrects itself. It does that in EVERY SINGLE picture mode regardless if Motion Enhancement and Film mode is turned off, on or any other iteration/combination, the only mode that does not do it is Game Mode (Which make sense as its the one mode in most TV's were its hardcoded in to disable it)

There is not available firmware update on my TV from what it tells me
post #1737 of 2660
wasn't trying to confuse you ;-) sometimes people confuse acronyms.but what you're describing doesn't seem like what others describe as SOE. read on.

so to clarify, you have motion enhancement off and film mode off (from above you say yes)?

It shows up on all content too (you say above, sat, blu ray and sreaming)?

you describe it as jerky as if switching between modes. I saw something like that sometimes and described it as "judder". some content was constantly speeding up and slowing down. if this is what you're seeing that's not SOE. turn on film mode. that's SOE.

for me the jerkiness was a mis-match between what my cable box was outputting in terms of resolution, using an AVR for switching and what the set was expected. my solution was to set my onkyo to "through" (no conversion), set the cable box to 1080i and connect to the set with an hdmi cable.
post #1738 of 2660
This was never an issue with a previous 120HZ LCD I had, and never an issue with my PN50C8000 Plasma, everything is setup exactly the same, I tried resetting everything and moving things around thinking that was somewhat the case. Also when you say it could be a mismatch, by that logic it should still do it in game mode regardless in which it does not..

It is almost like a "speed up/Slow down" but its not, it looks as though sometimes its smooth and sometimes its not, when theres a lot of movement going on things seem normal, if a scene changes and slows down the TV studders/jerks and all the sudden it looks like SOE is turned on.

Example, was watching the Black Hawk Down blu ray. In the opening scene its panning across the dirt ground with dead bodies, its a slow pan. I'n every other mode, it looks jerky and smooth like SOE is turned on, it constantly seems as though it may be sutddering as its going from looking smooth like SOE is turned on, to off like a normal 60HZ/Plasma TV. If I turn on game mode, that same scene doesnt jerk or studder.. it looks smooth but in a natural film way liek my plasma did. (not an un natural smooth like SOE, i mean as though the video looks normal, no anomalies)

and yes again, film mode and Motion enhancement are both turned off.
post #1739 of 2660
Hmmm that's weird.....I'm going to try switching my cable
Box LPMC setting for audio, I have been reading that this is a big issue with Verizon and Fios although I have never experienced it before......will report back when I change it over and thanks to all that have responded so far
post #1740 of 2660
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Originally Posted by Shady195 View Post

and yes again, film mode and Motion enhancement are both turned off.

You have them turned off on all inputs?
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