Official Sharp AQUOS LC-60LE847U & LC-70LE847U Owners Thread - Page 59

Yes

I figured at that point "Hey maybe 1 of these is somehow messing up and making it universal for all of them" it was my last ditch effort to make sure it was off on all taht would allow and it did not matter

I am going to try and get into the service menu when I get home and see if there is some option in there somehow that will let me just force it off on the TV in general.

I hate any sort of motion enhancements so I don't have a problem with it being forice completely off for good.

I think that your data is pointing to some sort of processing mismatch between source and display, not SOE. to see SOE, watch a prime time HD show and enable film mode. "standard mode" if it's not calibrated produces horrific SOE. jerkiness is not SOE. the fact that only Game mode does not show the jerkiness indicates it's a processing issue type issue.

Are you using an AVR to do the switching? If so, make sure it's set to just pass through the signal without processing.
is your sat/cable box set to auto select resolution, or is it set to always output the same resolution? is it 1080p or other. I'd suggest 720p or 1080i (personal preference for 1080i).

Everything is hard set to output a singal resolution, AVR only passes through.

Again, if it is a processeing issue regardless, if all "artificial" settings I guess you could say are turned off, I should be getting the same output I get from game mode.

what resolution are you passing to the display? As i said I pass 1080i.

not necessarily true that you can get game mode by switching stuff off in other modes. the fact that movie mode with film and motion enhancment off doesn't give game mode proves that, i.e. there's something more going on.

it's a pain, but what if you go straight to the display? You're using HDMI cables?

what happens if you stream netflix to the display directly? wireless or wired?

Ok all I followed these instructions to change audio setting on my Fios box to LPCM......and so far have not had any dropped volume or lip sync issues......thanks to BADCHAD65!!

This worked for me: with the TV and Fios box on press the stb power button on the Fios remote, then press the ok button, then the menu button. User settings screen appears, use the down arrow on the remote and the cursor on the screen will move down to addt hdmi settings, press ok then use arrow buttons on remote until cursor points to audio output, press ok button until auto changes to L-PCM. Menu button 3 times to exit and save.

Give credit where credit is due. I posted that fix, post #1522.

Drhjean its all built by me thanks for the compliment. You can see the building process at my HT link below. I'm not a great carpenter but just good enough to turn something out like that. With about $500 worth in tools you could do it too! Along with a little imagination its the same thing as building prefabed stands but you have to measure and cut the wood yourself!

Hey Survivorman My 847 70" also shows this Lip sync issue with my verzion box but not with movies from my Blu ray player. I never had this issue with my previous LCD. My Reciever has options to componsate for it but I havent played with it yet. Keep us posted you learn anything new. Ill try some of the suggestions posted in this thread

Please before we start another "big problem" scenario, go back and read all the posts, this is like the deja vu all over again from 6 weeks ago and likely from a few months before that. These are not "big issues" or new but you may find many things that have worked for some, some things that worked for all and some that worked for none. What you won't find are are all the thousands of people not having this "big problem" because obviously they didn't post because whatever they did or didn't do ......... worked. If only they would post.

You mean like a fire alarm that constantly sounds the 'ALL CLEAR' until there is a fire?
People without problems aren't here anyway, so it doesn't matter/
I've had synch problems with older DVDs and never with BluRay discs.
Just to throw yet another monkeywrench (spanner) into the works...

Kissfn........if this was your fix then I thank you I could have sworn it was Badchad65.....anyways thanks!!

Atren......if your running a HDMI cable from your cable box into the back of your tv make sure your not using the first HDMI port on the tv marked with ARC......I moved mine from the HDMI/ARC slot and lip syncing was gone.......I moved it to the second HDMI slot.......changing the setting under the service manual to LPCM did fix my no volume when swapping from HD to SD channels.......hope that helps you.


Bmwpc.......relax, I have been reading up and if you hadnt noticed theres now 59 pages to this thread......this may have a big "issue" weeks ago but maybe you missed the fact that i JUST purchased my sharp.....so I havent been in this thread very long.....oh and this may not be a BIG ISSUE to you but when someone spends $2000 on a tv, come home set it up and finds that the tv has a lip sync issue or no volume issue....guess what.....it becomes a big damn deal, so if this is deja vu for you dont read it ......this thread is intended for people to ask questions, get info, and recieve help.....I came, I got answers, and it worked for me......I am passing along what has worked so other members will be able to try the same......wheather or not other members post what has or has not worked for them is not my concern ........it worked for me and I want others in the same boat to know so they can try as well. Done

Atren, that is a great build. This may be what we need to do. 2x4s and some trim, and it could work alright. Then I could customize it to fit my other equipment. Must keep thinking and dreaming. As I said, I don't intend to purchase until after Christmas, so I've got some time.

Glad to help!

I like it Johnfull!

Thanks Survivorman I will try this tonight. I am going directly from my verizon box to HDMI 1 input on my TV. My receiver goes to HDMI Channel 2 I can try putitng in in HDMI 3. If not maybe ill put the receiver in HDMI1 and Cable box in HDMI 2

and DR thanks for the compliment! It actually was not that painful to build!

Put your reciever into hdmi with ARC put
Your cable
Into HDMI two.....then turn your audio setting on your box to LPMC

I believe this "fix" does not work with one newer Verizon box the 7232.2. "Doesn't work" meaning only that the menu you referring to and keystroking steps result in different results. kissfn and I had a lengthy discussion on this a few weeks back (in those old posts and deja vu I referred to and that Johfull and Atren seemed to find humor in) before we finally realized we had different FIOS boxes. kissfn's solution was in fact a real and effective fix and he deserves credit for it. My install was new at the time and the Verizon installer told me that thier "fix" was to us component cables. Now not knowing at the time of the newness of my series box versus the one that was in most common use I knew no difference. So the component cables worked fine for me, no voice lag. But I have not set up a theater system yet. My only problems started when I thought, gee since everthing is working right, I'll just use an HDMI cable in HDMI 1 instead of the componet. Now I still have the componet hooked up but I use the HDMI. And I now occassionally get the lag. I end it by either a pause or a channel chage or whatever but it does happen. But I don't get it with the component, but I seldom use the component so is that a fix.... I don't know. But for some of you that this is really a problem of concern, it might be something you may wish to try. And kissfn. again thank you for all those exchanges we had and your patience you had till we learned we were dealing with different cable boxes. It appears my box automatically does the LPMC switch as well as another. I don't have the additional hdmi settings.

And Johnfull, I've never heard a fire alarm sound an "all clear" until after a fire. Isn't the fire alarm's purpose sort of self titled
Edited by bmwpc - 12/14/12 at 8:49pm

Very happy to try and help you!

Survivorman. I am relaxed, obviously from your posts you are not. I realize how many pages there are and I am also a new membem. I did take the time to read all the posts during the 2 days I was waiting for my set to be delivered but I'm not saying that's just my choice. But there is also a search function you can use if that is easier. My point was is that the "big problem" you think you have is apparently an ongoing issue that has been reported on since the early pages of this board. A search would have turned that up very quickly. But more important for you, I would think, is that it would have turned up what appears to be a solution to your problem that kissfn posted several weeks ago. Reading your posts and all the plugging and uplugging you were doing as well as the obvious "big damn deal" this had become to you, the solution would have been available to you immediately. That's the advantage of buying a product that has been owned by such a knowledgeable group of individuals (not me) that contribute to this board on a regular basis. You don't have to reinvent the wheel. While there will always be a few new ideas or thoughts, our set has been out long enough where it looks like most of the initial set up and initial quirks have been discovered and those that are fixable by us mortals have prescribed cures. We all spent more than $2000 for our sets and we all expect our product to perform, what's great is that we have this board where we have some people that actually know stuff. While I may have a genius IQ and can build almost anything or fly or drive anything, I can't tell you how a transistor of a diode works, but I am smart enough to know the phone number of a guy who I can call when I need to know that. My only point was that we have a pretty good knowledge base already assembled and you can save yourself a lot of time and anguish sometimes to search it. Best of luck and I hope you ISSUE is big no more.

Really?? Interesting as now I have read the whole thread and it appears that somewhere around page 45/50 you came to this thread asking for help as well......I wonder, did you do a search before you posted up?? Im relaxed.......I dont jump on peoples asses when they ask for help......maybe you should have recieved the same response.......I hope you enjoy the tv

Here is another question for the experts........I am having some trouble understanding calibrating the TV im following GC's settings, specifically the standard settings........when I go to color temp. I get the choice of 10 point setting on/off........if I hit on I am given 4 settings to play with....position, red green blue......if I turn it off I am given 6 settings I can play with red low, green low, blue low, then red hi, green hi, blue hi.......I dont understand all the numbers that are listed for the 10 point settings on GCs list under color temp at the bottom.....can someone explain this to me and how to plug them in
 
 
STANDARD
OPC.......................On
Backlight ................+16
Contrast ................+31
Brightness...............+1
Color......................-3
Tint......................-5
Sharpness...............+1
Gamut ....................N/A
Motion Enhance........120 Hz High
Quad Pixel...............Standard
Active Contrast........Off
Gamma...................+2
Film Mode...............Off
Digital NR ................Off
 
CMS HUE
R.....-4
Y.....+14
G.....-30
C.....+17
B.....-20
M.....-5
 
 
SATURATION
R.....+3
Y.....-15
G.....-30
C.....-30
B........0
M.....-30
VALUE
R.....-30
Y.....+2
G.....+17
C.....+21
B......+1
M.......0
COLOR TEMP
POS.....R..........G..........B
1.......+30.......+25......+30
2.......+10.......+7........-2
3.......-1.........-6........-20
4.......-10........-8........-27
5.......-14.......-12.......-30
6.......-13........-6........-30
7.......-13........-7........-30
8.......-10........-8........-28
9........-6........-5........-26
10......-4.........-1........-24

Turn the 10 point on. Those four visible settings are actually fourty.

Set Position value to 1, then set Red to +30, Green to +25, and Blue to +30.
Now, go back to Position and change it to 2. Then set Red to +10, Green to +7, and Blue to -2.
Now, go back to Position and change it to 3. Then set Red to -1, Green to -6, and Blue to -20.
Follow that pattern for positions 4 thru 10, plugging in the values according to my "chart",

If you are doing it right you should be able to switch the position value and watch the RGB numbers update to match the chart.

To see how these changes affect your picture, make the adjustments with a gray steps or ramp pattern on screen. Feel free to experiment with radical values to make the changes more visible. Not the effect on the shade of gray as well as where on the ramp the changes are visible.

Hi all
Been reading a bunch of posts on this as we're set on getting the LC-70LE847U. I'm certainly considered a newbie so I don't have the keen eye many of you experts do. With that said I'm sure many of the "quirks" and "annoyances" many see will not bother us (hopefully haha).

Right now we're looking at the Denon AVR1913 receiver to pair with the TV as well as a blue ray. I thought I read somewhere that the my Uverse box and blue ray should be connected directly to the TV as opposed to connecting to the receiver. Actually found the post in the review:

"If you have a 3D TV or a smart TV, you might have problems using any kind of HDMI switcher, and this receiver will cause the same issues. There is a nifty workaround. Plug the HDMI cables straight to the TV and connect only the audio ports of the the device (Blu-Ray player, Sat/Cable, whatever) to the receiver. Then, just set the TV to external speakers, or just mute the TV. "

I would appreciate any inputs on this (pros/cons).

Thanks much and look forward to learning more about the TV.

If you really wish to characterize what I have said or done, at least make an attempt to be accurate or truthful or else you will really look pathetic. Actually if you had read the posts as you have stated you did you would have seen how my first post #1466 began:
"Hi to all all from a new joiner. I just purchased a new 70" 847 for my man cave and found this site looking for some custom calibrations to try. I have never experimented with custom calibrations before but thought I would give them a try. I also noticed that there are several presets They seem to be all pretty bad except the dynamic.

Before I posted this, I went back to the first posts in April and started reading when everyone was first getting these sets and saw their excitement and after reading a couple hundred, I skipped forward hoping that by now some of you tech oriented guys have done some experimenting with calibrations that I could start out with and modify to my own taste."

And if you read my posts I "don't jump on peoples asses when they ask for help." I guess suggesting that you try the search function or the excellent past posts to find a direct and speedy solution for your problem versus your unsuccessful wandering from attempted solution to attempted solution hurt your feelings. For one who claims he was enduring such a "BIG ISSUE" one would have thought you would have been interested in finding an immediate solution such as the one that had been posted by kissfn several weeks before. Even now you apparently can't accept the fact that such solution existed and you could have easily found it if you had simply done a subject search. Instead you have chosen to attemp to chastise me for suggesting you utilize the search engine. By the way, seems that must be the way you ran across CGGorman's settings, huh? Yes I thing the shrinks have a name for that. So the bottom line is, you are again misstating about going back and reading all the posts from page 45 and misstating generalizations of my posts. But misstate and chastise away, 'cause each time you do and waste your time posting, no forum issue is advanced, I am enjoying my set and, I obviously will no longer be responding to you or your abreactional drivel.
Edited by bmwpc - 12/15/12 at 11:23am

Some pics of my 70LE847U

Sorry for the bad pictures, had just thought of it and was in a rush so I just snapped them quick with a point and shoot. I hope most know that the camera does not do these types of TV's and movies justice, the banding is also caused by the camera (just throwing that out there for some who might not really know)

Waiting on my Nikon D600

FYI, let me say that the Finding Nemo blu ray is probably one of the most beautiful movies ive ever seen in HD for the simple WOW factor, even my wife last night was like "WOW! The colors are amazing and the ammount of detail I have never noticed in this movie before is incredible" this is comming from a woman who until recentely could give two craps about what the picture/sound looked like



As you can see, no clouding on mine, though last night in finding nemo I did notice some very very faint clouding in a scene where they go down into the deep, the brightness appeared to turn up briefly as the light was shifting out of the scene and there was some minor clouding only noticeable with all the lights turned off in my room, this image is also a little darker than it really is in person, just tried to get it to look as clear and not blown out as possible. When my TV shows dark scenes, you can barely tell there is any light shining through.

Thanks bmwpc!

Awesome!!! Please do that.......again thanks to all who have helped me out


Shady that pq looks amazing! Im actually waiting for the nixon d7000

CG thank you!! Will give it a try tonight....I can tell you this I really liked how the pq looked plugging all your numbers before getting to the 10 point setting....so I am betting I will set with all your numbers and call it finished. Thanks!!
Edited by Survivorman - 12/15/12 at 5:52pm

The D7000 is a great camera! Wish I knew that sooner before I unloaded all my DX gear, could have offered you some nice lenses at a good price! Upgrading to full frame so a lot of my lenses I sold.

BTW if you have not done so already, get the 35MM 1.8, must have DX lens

Also, PQ is way better than my pictures show, I really really thought there were going to be a lot of shortcomings to this set comming from a high end plasma, aside from a few small nit picky type things I am actually suprised at how happy I am with this TV. After about 2-3 hours of playing with some of the CMS and basic settings, I think i finally have this as close as its going to get to perfect (using my calibrated plasma as a refrence) as its going to get (which is pretty damn close suprisingly) before getting a proper professional calibration

Here are my settings.

Using CGormans game settings as a starting point (which looked way better than any of the modes to begin with) so thank you CGorman (Your movie settings had to much of a red push to me, Game mode did to but it was less severe)

On top of his, I spent another few hours using my calibrated Plasma and refrence points in a few of my favorite movies to get to me what presented the most accurate shadow detail, color saturation and one of the more important things to me, more neutral flesh tones. Drives me a little insane when someones skin looks a little to red/pink or green.

I use these settings in both Game mode and Movie mode, in movie mode 10 point while balance is turned off as every settings ive tried with 10 point while balance doesnt look good to me, so its off until I get it checked out. Color Gamut Range is also set to standard,

OPC = Off
Backlight = -5
Contrast = 32
Brightness = +2
Color = +5
Tint = 0
Sharpness = +2
Quad Pixel Plus = Off
Active Contrast = Off
Gamma = -1

Color Temp:
Low
R Gain = 0
G Gain = +9
B Gain = -9
R Gain Hi = -20
G Gain Hi = -20
B Gain Hi = -30

CMS Hue:
R = +16
Y = +15
G = -20
C = -10
B = -16
M = -10

CMS Saturation:
R = -10
Y = +10
G = -20
C = -10
B = -10
M = -23

CMS Value =
R = -10
Y = 0
G = 0
C = +20
B = -10
M = +1

Hi all
Another question from this newbie:)...we're about to purchase in a couple days. fFrom the sounds of other posts, it appears getting a warranty is the best bet. Should we purchase the warranty offered through the retail store (they are an authorized sharp dealer)?

Edit
To be specific I found the warranty info from the place we're looking to buy from.

$299 - 2 year
$499 - 4 year

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Thanks
Edited by EC99SS - 12/15/12 at 8:06pm