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post #2461 of 2660
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1199163/color-calibration-without-color-meter-is-blue-filter-the-best-bet

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20060847-1/reviewed-blu-ray-setup-discs-for-your-hdtv/

I used the red, blue and green filter from the Joe Kane HD DVD of Digital Video Essentials. (Now available on blu-ray) You still get the best results with instruments to measure various aspects of a color picture, but for now, it looks fine to me, eyballin it. In game mode, there is also less lag - noticeable since my PC is the main source of video for TV and watching blu-ray backups stored in hard disks on my network.

You can try my settings.
Game Mode
OPC: Off
Brightness: -10
Contrast: +25
Brightness: 0
Color: 0
Tint: 0
Sharpness: +1
Advanced
CMS

HUE
Red: 0
Yellow: 0
Green: +1
Cyan: +26
Blue: +8
Magenta: +18

Saturation
Red: +11
Yellow: 0
Green: -10
Cyan: -28
Blue: +10
Magenta: 0

Value
Red: 0
Yellow: 0
Green: 0
Cyan: 0
Blue: 0
Magenta: 0

Edit - 7/12/13
Color Temp - Middle
Quad Pixel Plus 2 - Off
Active Contrast - Off
Gamma - 0
DNR - Off

Every set is going to be different, so your mileage may vary with these settings. With broadcast TV, the color and contrast are pretty punchy - with blu-ray, even better, IMHO.
Edited by myoda - 7/12/13 at 8:39am
post #2462 of 2660


For anyone following, I tried both sets of calibrations. It was the 2nd one that gave much better results. The first one made everyone look like they had a sun burn.



Now what I'm wondering is if there had been any calibrations for 3-D for the Movie mode? I would imagine it'd be pretty much the same except for possibly contrast and brightness?
post #2463 of 2660
You can't properly adjust cma with filters. You need software and a meter.
post #2464 of 2660
Quote:
Originally Posted by myoda View Post

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1199163/color-calibration-without-color-meter-is-blue-filter-the-best-bet

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20060847-1/reviewed-blu-ray-setup-discs-for-your-hdtv/

I used the red, blue and green filter from the Joe Kane HD DVD of Digital Video Essentials. (Now available on blu-ray) You still get the best results with instruments to measure various aspects of a color picture, but for now, it looks fine to me, eyballin it. In game mode, there is also less lag - noticeable since my PC is the main source of video for TV and watching blu-ray backups stored in hard disks on my network.

You can try my settings.
Game Mode
OPC: Off
Brightness: -10
Contrast: +25
Brightness: 0
Color: 0
Tint: 0
Sharpness: +1
Advanced
CMS

HUE
Red: 0
Yellow: 0
Green: +1
Cyan: +26
Blue: +8
Magenta: +18

Saturation
Red: +11
Yellow: 0
Green: -10
Cyan: -28
Blue: +10
Magenta: 0

Value
Red: 0
Yellow: 0
Green: 0
Cyan: 0
Blue: 0
Magenta: 0

Every set is going to be different, so your mileage may vary with these settings. With broadcast TV, the color and contrast are pretty punchy - with blu-ray, even better, IMHO.

I guess my question is, how did you know to add or subtract certain numbers from specific colors and how did you know if it should have been hue vs saturation? What screen were you on?
post #2465 of 2660
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Originally Posted by brahby View Post

I guess my question is, how did you know to add or subtract certain numbers from specific colors and how did you know if it should have been hue vs saturation? What screen were you on?

I think you mean Value (brightness) versus Saturation (intensity). They seem to interact, so it is a toss-up. You want to end up with a picture where none of the colors clip.
The LED backlights typically output way more blue than red, so you'll be working with the red first to get a linear response that doesn't top out too soon...
post #2466 of 2660
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Originally Posted by johnfull View Post

I think you mean Value (brightness) versus Saturation (intensity). They seem to interact, so it is a toss-up. You want to end up with a picture where none of the colors clip.
The LED backlights typically output way more blue than red, so you'll be working with the red first to get a linear response that doesn't top out too soon...

Well that's really what I was asking since there is hue,value, and saturation under the cms
post #2467 of 2660
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Originally Posted by greeno View Post

You can't properly adjust cma with filters. You need software and a meter.

It's CMS - I realize that. I did the best that I could with the tools (eyes) I have available to me at the moment. CMS gives me more granular control over the different color spaces than just color and tint. Best Buy had a Sencore box when they did their "free" calibration, and the result looked like crap. Once I get the proper equipment, I can get the color points correct, but for now, it looks accurate to me.
edit 7/12/2013 -
Added some snaps from this morning to judge color accuracy - some live stuff and some stuff off the DVR. I used the VS fashion show to judge black levels and flesh tones. Right..













Sometimes it's hard to shoot a moving image, but I had fun trying this morning..biggrin.gif
Edited by myoda - 7/12/13 at 8:18am
post #2468 of 2660
Just picked up the LC-60LE847U at Sears for $899 on a closeout Red Tag sale. Looking for some cheapo glasses. Tried to search here and didn't find a lot of info but did find one post saying that cheap PS3 glasses work fine. I won't watch a lot of 3D to justify paying $100+ for a pair of Sharp branded glasses. What glasses are people using? Thanks in advance.

BTW,here are some cheapos... http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-3-3D-Glasses/dp/B00562O8U0
post #2469 of 2660
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Originally Posted by capecodguy View Post

Just picked up the LC-60LE847U at Sears for $899 on a closeout Red Tag sale. Looking for some cheapo glasses. Tried to search here and didn't find a lot of info but did find one post saying that cheap PS3 glasses work fine. I won't watch a lot of 3D to justify paying $100+ for a pair of Sharp branded glasses. What glasses are people using? Thanks in advance.

BTW,here are some cheapos... http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-3-3D-Glasses/dp/B00562O8U0

Those work fine but I've found are the most uncomfortable of all the glasses I've ever used which included two different types for my old Sony active tv and also the monster universal which are more expensive and were useless to me.
post #2470 of 2660
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Originally Posted by brahby View Post

Those work fine but I've found are the most uncomfortable of all the glasses I've ever used which included two different types for my old Sony active tv and also the monster universal which are more expensive and were useless to me.


Thanks.

What is your preferred model of glasses then? My wife wears regular glasses so I should buy accordingly for her as well.
post #2471 of 2660
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Originally Posted by capecodguy View Post

Thanks.

What is your preferred model of glasses then? My wife wears regular glasses so I should buy accordingly for her as well.

Whatever the standard Sharp ones were. They should be like 50 a piece I think. I dont wear glasses but I know that those ps3 display glasses are my choice, basically if my others are dead. I would check ebay or something and see if anyone is selling a set or something.
post #2472 of 2660
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Originally Posted by greeno View Post

You can't properly adjust cma with filters. You need software and a meter.

Well then, what I'm going to do is use the same settings for the 3-D mode and simply boost up the brightness, gamma and color saturation a bit. That should be a good enough compromise.
post #2473 of 2660
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Originally Posted by capecodguy View Post

Thanks.

What is your preferred model of glasses then? My wife wears regular glasses so I should buy accordingly for her as well.

Best Buy has these on sale: AN-3DG30

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Sharp---Rechargeable-Active-Shutter-3D-Glasses/6667503.p?id=1218770736844&skuId=6667503

If your wife has a small head, (really) they should be fine over her glasses. Bring her into to a bby and try em' on. The AN-3DG20B glasses are larger, but getting harder to find. I did find these on fleabay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SHARP-AN-3DG20-B-Active-Rechargeable-3D-Glasses-Sharp-AQUOS-LCD-TVs-AN3DG20B-/281127881872#vi-content
post #2474 of 2660
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Originally Posted by myoda View Post

Best Buy has these on sale: AN-3DG30

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Sharp---Rechargeable-Active-Shutter-3D-Glasses/6667503.p?id=1218770736844&skuId=6667503

If your wife has a small head, (really) they should be fine over her glasses. Bring her into to a bby and try em' on. The AN-3DG20B glasses are larger, but getting harder to find. I did find these on fleabay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SHARP-AN-3DG20-B-Active-Rechargeable-3D-Glasses-Sharp-AQUOS-LCD-TVs-AN3DG20B-/281127881872#vi-content

Thanks so much! Off to BB it is with the wife in tow.

I saw those on Ebay but am weary of anything "branded" out of China. Not worth the $10 savings IMo.
post #2475 of 2660
Anybody find a Remote Control App that works for this TV? I've tried (I think) all the Android apps. How about ipad or iphone apps?
post #2476 of 2660
Quote:
Originally Posted by capecodguy View Post

Anybody find a Remote Control App that works for this TV? I've tried (I think) all the Android apps. How about ipad or iphone apps?

https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=Sharp+Americas+HQ

The Sharp app selection is pretty lame at the moment. Did you get your 3D specs?

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/sharp-aquos-remote-control/id647234985?mt=8
post #2477 of 2660
Yes, thanks. Picked up the last pair at BB this morning.

I found that app, but the info on how to use is severely lacking. I'm trying to find a 3-D button to watch a 3-D movie because my remote is fried and I'm waiting for a replacement which won't come until next week.
post #2478 of 2660
My 70" has developed a blue line down the screen. Any ideas on if its fixable? All inputs and sources.
post #2479 of 2660
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Originally Posted by JDErickson84088 View Post

My 70" has developed a blue line down the screen. Any ideas on if its fixable? All inputs and sources.

It looks like either a panel failure, board failure, or a combination of the 2. Have you tried calling Sharp? When did you purchase this screen?
post #2480 of 2660
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Originally Posted by myoda View Post

It looks like either a panel failure, board failure, or a combination of the 2. Have you tried calling Sharp? When did you purchase this screen?

I purchased it in Feb 2013 at Costco. Does anyone have the number for Sharp?

I did notice a slight ticking sound from the back of the TV a week or so ago.
post #2481 of 2660
post #2482 of 2660
I had my LC70C8470U calibrated yesterday by Michael Hamilton with The Real Picture. He did an amazing job, the set which looked ok before is nothing short of spectacular now.

He was on time, personable, professional and IMHo we had a great time while he did his thing.

After we watched a show from 3DNET called Deep Sea I had in my DVR for months but never watched It must have been good we both watched it for 50 minutes.











During the 3D cal:






There is a nail behind Picard I never noticed before.




post #2483 of 2660
After calibration do you have soe?

What mode did they calibrate?
post #2484 of 2660
Quote:
Originally Posted by e30cabrio View Post

I had my LC70C8470U calibrated yesterday by Michael Hamilton with The Real Picture. He did an amazing job, the set which looked ok before is nothing short of spectacular now.

He was on time, personable, professional and IMHo we had a great time while he did his thing.

After we watched a show from 3DNET called Deep Sea I had in my DVR for months but never watched It must have been good we both watched it for 50 minutes.

How much time did it take him to complete your calibration? I noticed he calibrated in ISF day mode - how's it look?
post #2485 of 2660
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Originally Posted by cjlawson View Post

After calibration do you have soe?

What mode did they calibrate?

He created ISF Day &night modes. No SOE.

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Originally Posted by myoda View Post

How much time did it take him to complete your calibration? I noticed he calibrated in ISF day mode - how's it look?

He got here about 8:30, we talked for about 10 minutes, he set up and started around 9:00 and was done about 1:30.

The TV looks as good as any I have ever seen and he said it was in the ballpark of as good as it gets.
He knows I was going to post, maybe he'll see this and respond. He is a member here.
post #2486 of 2660
Take it back to Cosco, jump up and down and scream and make a seen.. I have gotten both them and WallieWorld to take things back for up to a year... !!!!
post #2487 of 2660
How much did the calibration cost? It's probably too much to hope that he works in Northern California.
post #2488 of 2660
The 2012 80" is LC-80LE844U and there is already a thread started for that. mkbo
post #2489 of 2660
I don't want to discuss prices he can be reached through this page:

http://lionav.com/new/?page_id=162

Here are the Day before & after reports:




post #2490 of 2660
Do these LEDs have a break-in period?

Mine started showing even better a few days ago after on month of ownership.
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