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post #301 of 2429
5/1/12 at 1:12pm
The Costco model does include 2 free pairs of glasses.
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post #302 of 2429
5/1/12 at 6:26pm
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I am new to this site and I appreciate all the good info here. I too have been waiting on the 70LE925U to see if it is worth the hype based on price point even though I don't know what that will be. I have noticed prices dropping steadily on the 70LE847U and I am about ready to pull the trigger based on this site and pricing. My question is Costco has this unit on sale this week but there model number is modified as 70C8470 which includes two pair of 3D glasses in the box. When I have checked about glasses on the 70LE847U I have been told that they were included and others say they are not. Do glasses come in the box like Costco or are they throwing them in with the purchase. It is hard to compare prices without this knowledge since they can want up to $200 extra for glasses. Thanks

No glasses in the box, but best buy is offering 2 free with their 845 (same as 847) and HH Gregg did a match for me.
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post #303 of 2429
5/1/12 at 7:18pm
Do native 240 Hz tv give soap opera effect?
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post #304 of 2429
5/1/12 at 8:44pm
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I just received delivery of my LC-60LE847U on Friday. I am experiencing lip sync issues as well. I contacted Sharp about it. Mine will go out of sync utilizing the TV speakers after 10 mins. If I change the channel at times it will go back in sync. So, Sharp took me through the reset process and some service menus. That did not correct my problem. Today, I called back. The first Sharp technician told me that I should turn off my motion enhancement. I told him I should not have to do that to fix my problem and for the amount of money the TV costs that's not acceptable. I called back and talked another person and she told to try to swap out inputs. She told me I should not have HDMI 1 hooked to my Verizon FIOS box because it is an ACR input. My receiver is now HDMI 1 and FIOS HDMI 2. Not sure if this has corrected the problem. Have not been able to test it out. This is my 3rd TV in 3 months. The 810U and my recent 835U had no issues. Sharp replaced these for clouding issues.

Have you had any luck? If so it would be great to hear. Thanks!

No luck with mine either. In addition to losing sync hourly, the audio will get very distorted once an hour and delayed. A simple change of channel and back clears the issue. Weird thing is that the issues start when a station goes to commercial. Time to call Sharp I think.
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post #305 of 2429
5/1/12 at 9:33pm
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Do native 240 Hz tv give soap opera effect?

show me a truly native 240Hz display , it's a marketing ploy...
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post #306 of 2429
5/1/12 at 10:34pm
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show me a truly native 240Hz display , it's a marketing ploy...

I'm a little confused. Are you saying that the 847 really doesn't have a faster refresh rate than the 745? Do you recommend using the 120 setting even on the 847? I've read here that the quad pixel doesn't really offer any visible advantage beyond a few feet away from the screen and that some actually turn it off. If all this is true why buy the 847 over the 745?
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post #307 of 2429
5/2/12 at 1:55am
What does the AQUOMOTION 480 (Backlight Scanning Refresh Rate) do on the LC-70C8470U? that is the unique diffrence between the LC-70LE847U and LC-70C8470U besides the free 3D glasses offcourse, and it's only available at Costco and SAM's Club which they don't have interest free one to 3 years financing like Frys/Bestbuy/Amazon do, I like to pay $100/month rather than fork $3k at once that's how I bought most of my stuff with no interest at all.
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post #308 of 2429
5/2/12 at 5:28am
It is issues like the sync'ing and flashlighting that has made me hold off a little bit on picking this up. I want it, badly but I am also now trying to decide on the 60 or the 70, I had made my mind up on the 60 but now am leaning towards the 70...

I'll give it a while longer and get some more feedback. It does sound like there is alot of good feedback on stunning PQ and 3-d. But after calibrated I dont want to have to jack with settings all the time and have lip sync issues. Sharp will get it fixed if it's a big enough problem
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post #309 of 2429
5/2/12 at 5:32am
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I'm a little confused. Are you saying that the 847 really doesn't have a faster refresh rate than the 745? Do you recommend using the 120 setting even on the 847? I've read here that the quad pixel doesn't really offer any visible advantage beyond a few feet away from the screen and that some actually turn it off. If all this is true why buy the 847 over the 745?

most of people who get these Sharps find it's a best PQ to turn off OR set to 120 low the motion enhancements .
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post #310 of 2429
5/2/12 at 8:29am
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show me a truly native 240Hz display , it's a marketing ploy...

Isn't 847 native 240 hz instead of native 120 hz + backlight scanning?

If i understand they are only able to achieve 480 hz on 847 by taking native 240 hz and doubling it.

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post #311 of 2429
5/2/12 at 8:35am
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Isn't 847 native 240 hz instead of native 120 hz + backlight scanning?

If i understand they are only able to achieve 480 hz on 847 by taking native 240 hz and doubling it.


all they do is a faster back light strobe to get to 240 & 480 ..
240 & 480 is marketing at it's best
the 847 has a 120Hz setting so explain how a set that has a native 240 panel can go backward to 120 ?
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post #312 of 2429
5/2/12 at 8:56am
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Originally Posted by Flomo View Post

I am new to this site and I appreciate all the good info here. I too have been waiting on the 70LE925U to see if it is worth the hype based on price point even though I don't know what that will be. I have noticed prices dropping steadily on the 70LE847U and I am about ready to pull the trigger based on this site and pricing. My question is Costco has this unit on sale this week but there model number is modified as 70C8470 which includes two pair of 3D glasses in the box. When I have checked about glasses on the 70LE847U I have been told that they were included and others say they are not. Do glasses come in the box like Costco or are they throwing them in with the purchase. It is hard to compare prices without this knowledge since they can want up to $200 extra for glasses. Thanks

Its hard to say as the warehouse stores get special items, they are different in some ways compared to other retailers selling similar models. If I was a betting man, which I am , I would say they are not in the box.
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post #313 of 2429
5/2/12 at 11:01am
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all they do is a faster back light strobe to get to 240 & 480 ..
240 & 480 is marketing at it's best
the 847 has a 120Hz setting so explain how a set that has a native 240 panel can go backward to 120 ?

In your opinion does the 847 offer any real world PQ advantage over the 745?
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post #314 of 2429
5/2/12 at 12:06pm
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all they do is a faster back light strobe to get to 240 & 480 ..
240 & 480 is marketing at it's best
the 847 has a 120Hz setting so explain how a set that has a native 240 panel can go backward to 120 ?

That doesn't match what's on the Sharp website for the LC-70LE847U.

"AQUOMOTION (Backlight Scanning Refresh Rate): N/A
Panel Native Refresh Rate: 240 Hz"

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post #315 of 2429
5/2/12 at 1:21pm
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so explain how a set that has a native 240 panel can go backward to 120 ?

backward compatibility? The same way RAM (DDR), Drives (SATA) etc are compatible with previous versions.

The reason i want to clarify is I don't like soap opera effect but would like a native panel with faster refresh rate. Since Sharp website is showing native panel as 240 hz, I want to know if soap opera is available when just using the native refresh rate. However, you are stating the panel is native 120 hz only.
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post #316 of 2429
5/2/12 at 3:33pm
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your understanding/definition of 240 native is not what Sharp calls 240 native , is what I am pointing out .
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post #317 of 2429
5/2/12 at 3:34pm
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Originally Posted by andy sullivan View Post

In your opinion does the 847 offer any real world PQ advantage over the 745?

short answer, No .
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post #318 of 2429
5/2/12 at 4:06pm
Now that's some interesting info to chew on. Was the 847 and 745 released at the same time? It seems odd that there are no threads on the 745. Actually it seems kind of strange that they would go to the expense to even build both. I'm all set to pull the trigger on the 847 but now I'm wondering if that's the best bang for the buck.
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post #319 of 2429
5/2/12 at 4:41pm
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here is the thread on the 745

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1397137

740 & 745 is the same display(very slight differences) there are different p/n#'s for Costco & Best Buy to stop price matching
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post #320 of 2429
5/2/12 at 9:00pm
I'm in the same boat. I was set on the 847 but now it seems the 745 may be a better value. Right now the difference I'm comparing is about $230 more for the 847. I notice people seem to have issues with 3d on the 745. Is the 3d noticeably better in the 8 series? (i see one of the unique features to the 8's is some 3d depth enhancer)
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post #321 of 2429
5/3/12 at 5:53am
I don't know how to measure it, but I'm reasonably confident the 70LE847U is a true native 240 Hz panel. If not, why would it have two 240 settings..."Aquomotion 240 Hz" and "240 Hz". All the literature ive been able to find also lists it as native. I wish i could measure it. Regardless, the visible difference is very very small between 120 and 240 on the material I watch (NO sports or high frame rate video).

Regarding the flashlighting or hot spots visible to some in light fields; I have none visible and use mine as a PC monitor. The Google home page looks dead flat white to me. Corner to corner. If mine is a fluke, I'll just take it and smile. :-)
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post #322 of 2429
5/3/12 at 6:42am
This has been my dealing with Sharp, which I must say, has been a very easy, and pleasant experience. Below is the order of sets that I have been through, all 70 inch models. Each one had display issues, and the 733 was deemed a bad panel, by the repair company.

632--> 632 --> 732 --> 732 --> 733

After the 733, Sharp was just going to refund my money, but instead they sent me the LC-70LE847U, got it yesterday. Even though its edge lit, it still puts out a great picture. I also do not see any flashlighting on this set. watched the Ranger game last night, and the picture was great, and no motion issues.
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post #323 of 2429
5/3/12 at 6:47am
CG, where are you at with Chads professional calibration you were having done? I'm anxious to get his impressions of the Quad plus or if he turns it off and if he, like fastslappy, keeps the motion setting to 120 low. I don't recall if Chad checks out 3D performance but an impression of the 3D depth enhancer would be much appreciated. If Fastslappy's short answer of "NO" to the question regarding the 847 having better PQ than the 745 is backed up by Chad that could be a deal changer for many of us.
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post #324 of 2429
5/3/12 at 7:12am
Chad is scheduled to begin work on my set tomorrow at 10am. I don't know how long after that to expect his review to appear, but I'll certainly post as the day progresses.
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post #325 of 2429
5/3/12 at 8:18am
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I don't know how to measure it, but I'm reasonably confident the 70LE847U is a true native 240 Hz panel. If not, why would it have two 240 settings..."Aquomotion 240 Hz" and "240 Hz". All the literature ive been able to find also lists it as native. I wish i could measure it. Regardless, the visible difference is very very small between 120 and 240 on the material I watch (NO sports or high frame rate video).

Regarding the flashlighting or hot spots visible to some in light fields; I have none visible and use mine as a PC monitor. The Google home page looks dead flat white to me. Corner to corner. If mine is a fluke, I'll just take it and smile. :-)

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post #326 of 2429
5/3/12 at 9:52am
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Chad is scheduled to begin work on my set tomorrow at 10am. I don't know how long after that to expect his review to appear, but I'll certainly post as the day progresses.

That daily update would be fantastic. I'm either getting the 847 or the 745 70" version and naturally want to know if Chad likes the 847 better or if he sets it up mirroring the 745.
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post #327 of 2429
5/3/12 at 11:24am
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That daily update would be fantastic. I'm either getting the 847 or the 745 70" version and naturally want to know if Chad likes the 847 better or if he sets it up mirroring the 745.

Me too...waiting...and waiting....
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post #328 of 2429
5/3/12 at 11:44am
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Me too...waiting...and waiting....

I cant wait to get my 847. I have been researching all sharps tv for the past year and the 847 is the best one so far. I dont include the 945 series since they are considered a lower end of the elite series. The 847 series is more afforable for most people in their home.
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post #329 of 2429
5/3/12 at 11:45am
I can't imagine there would be a significant difference in the BT709 (HDTV) color space. The additional processing power and potential gamut headroom within BT709 is why I went 847 over 745. I don't use most of the picture "enhancing" gizmos, but I figure a better processor helps across the board. Maybe.

We'll see what Chad thinks!
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post #330 of 2429
5/3/12 at 11:54am
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