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post #481 of 2660
I got my 70" as soon as they went on sale at Costco. I haven't had much time to tweek settings, yet but so far pretty happy with 2D, 3D, PC, and onboard Netflix via ARC and wired ethernet. ARC outputs Netflix 5.1 to my Dennon unlike my Panny BD player. I do have some clouding but so far not apparent in anything except credits or dark blank screen. I am coming from a Sony 60" 3000 SXRD. I will try some tweeking when I return from vacation in Japan.
post #482 of 2660
Received my LC-60LE847U yesterday, and so far, after tweaking some image sesttings I like what I see. However, I am having a pretty serious issue with audio/video sync when using HDMI on any device (Blu-Ray, Cable Box). The issue doesn't seem as bad when I am using optical from the Blu-Ray or cable box, directly into my receiver. It appears as though the audio is slightly ahead of the video. Of course, I have disabled the Aquomotion, the DNR, etc. but to no avail. I'd like to use HDMI over analog for obvious reasons, but it is incredibly frustrating! I am having this issue whether I use the TV speakers, or if I use my receiver. I have done all of the firmware updates, and I also don't have any of the sound enhancements (3D Surround) turned on. Does anybody have any additional advice, or settings that I need to double check?
post #483 of 2660
Optical is not analog, but I can't help otherwise. Sorry.
post #484 of 2660
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Originally Posted by rdubz85 View Post

Received my LC-60LE847U yesterday, and so far, after tweaking some image sesttings I like what I see. However, I am having a pretty serious issue with audio/video sync when using HDMI on any device (Blu-Ray, Cable Box). The issue doesn't seem as bad when I am using optical from the Blu-Ray or cable box, directly into my receiver. It appears as though the audio is slightly ahead of the video. Of course, I have disabled the Aquomotion, the DNR, etc. but to no avail. I'd like to use HDMI over analog for obvious reasons, but it is incredibly frustrating! I am having this issue whether I use the TV speakers, or if I use my receiver. I have done all of the firmware updates, and I also don't have any of the sound enhancements (3D Surround) turned on. Does anybody have any additional advice, or settings that I need to double check?

Do you have any audio delay settings on your receiver?
post #485 of 2660
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Originally Posted by papi4baby View Post

Sharps website states 10'000'000 to 1 for the contrast of the 47 vs 8,000,000 to 1 for the 45.

Also list the 47 as having 3D depth enhancer and quad pixel plus II. And the 45 as not having them.

And for inputs the 47 has 1 set of composites while the 45 has two sets.

Unfortunately that doesnt really help me, composites dont make any difference to me. I would like to know what the difference between quad pixel plus 2 and whatever the 845 has and if the contrast ratio is actually different or the usual marketing bs. But thanks for the help
post #486 of 2660
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Originally Posted by davenrino View Post

Do you have any audio delay settings on your receiver?

Nope, no delay settings. But even when I bypass the receiver and just use the TV's speakers, there is a noticeable dealy (through HDMI). THey are sending out a technician to take a look at it. I know with the cable box if I change the channel the sync will return to semi normal. I took a video of how out of sync the audio/video became. I'd blame the cable box, but the Blu-Ray player has the same issue. If my old Samsung had the same problem, then I would know there's another problem, but that TV works flawlessly!
Yes, I know optical is not analog, but I'd prefer to use HDMI for everything to get the uncompressed audio from the Blu-Ray player.
post #487 of 2660
Does your blu-ray player have an adjustment for delay? You could also do analog connections if your bdp has analog outputs and your avr has 5.1, 6.1 or 7.1 multi-channel inputs and still be able to listen to next gen audio formats.
post #488 of 2660
Not sure if I never noticed it before, but after the latest firmware update, my picture in dark scenes seems to be grainy looking, more than it was before, also seem to notice more dithering them before.

Does anybody else notice this?
post #489 of 2660
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Originally Posted by skybolt View Post

After calibrating with the use of the AVCHD 709 disk (Thanks Guys!), I ended up turning off all auto fetures and enhancements in order to "Dummy Down" the picture. To me the resolution of this set ruins a good movie by expossing so much detail it doesn't look real, it's like being there as they film it. Has anyone else done or experienced this?

i got the C847OU on Friday and I too noticed the same thing, even the wife said something about it, really bad on animation, almost like a shadow box effect, I guess this is what is called the soap opra effect. I spent the weekend trying to tweek the settings and finally got to a happy place last night. Turned the 480 on and the advanced smoothing which seemed to take care of the issue for now. I will tweek some more this week and report back what I find.
post #490 of 2660
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Originally Posted by nettad View Post

i got the C847OU on Friday and I too noticed the same thing, even the wife said something about it, really bad on animation, almost like a shadow box effect, I guess this is what is called the soap opra effect. I spent the weekend trying to tweek the settings and finally got to a happy place last night. Turned the 480 on and the advanced smoothing which seemed to take care of the issue for now. I will tweek some more this week and report back what I find.

Yes - the soap opera efect, exactly.

I decided to use the "User" mode on one of the HDMI inputs and turned of all of the "Auto" functions and started from there. After a basic cal. in that setting I found "Film Mode" (I think that is it's name - I will correct if I am wrong when I get home) to be the biggest culprite. So that is remaining off. I would love to hear what you came up with.
post #491 of 2660
coming from a high end sammy plasma my eyes are not pleased at the moment. I like the tv and think eventually I will be able to get it right but it is frustrating to say the least. It does have dramatically less glare than my plasma did. I am still working with the settings and the best I came up with so far is movie mode, 480 turned on and aqua smooth(?) turned on, this setting reduces how bright the tv is but it seems to take away the soap opra effect. I havent tried to mess with all the color settings yet. I am willing to take advice on how others have set thiers up and give that a shot. PS3 looks good but I dont play that very often. We use mainly OTA and stream netflix, and movies from my network drive. Nemo showed horrible ghosting to the point my wife said something about it and none of the settings seems to take it away. Never noticed this on my plasma. reaching out for some help and advice, thanks.
post #492 of 2660
Here's a thread devoted to removing SOE:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1410375

Here's DaPimp's settings for the 632. I'd not use any color/tint etc. settings, but you might look at what he's using for other options. He's a big fan of game mode to remove most of the processing:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...2#post21454402
post #493 of 2660
Nettad, what does your network drive chain look like? Just DLNA streaming or something closer to a full blown HTPC?

This set seems to be a bit more picky about source quality and specs than my other sets. Its taken some work to get XBMC working properly with it...or maybe its just the new version (11.0)...

You mention ghosting. Is this like traditional analog signal ghosting where there are multiple superimposed images or something else related more to motion fluidity or artifacting?

Did you go thru this entire thread? I know it's long, but there is a lot of detailed setup info that should prove useful.
post #494 of 2660
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Originally Posted by CGGorman View Post

Nettad, what does your network drive chain look like? Just DLNA streaming or something closer to a full blown HTPC?

This set seems to be a bit more picky about source quality and specs than my other sets. Its taken some work to get XBMC working properly with it...or maybe its just the new version (11.0)...

You mention ghosting. Is this like traditional analog signal ghosting where there are multiple superimposed images or something else related more to motion fluidity or artifacting?

Did you go thru this entire thread? I know it's long, but there is a lot of detailed setup info that should prove useful.

network drive i believe is DLNA as this is what shows up on the tv. Not sure as to quality of this type but it always looked good on my plasma streaming from the network hard drive, this tv does seem to scale it diferently than the plasma too. Never got the black bars on the plasma but this tv does have them, maybe this tv is actually scaling it correctly, i dont know.

I say ghosting but a better description might be haloing(is that a word?) The fish seem to have a glow around them especially in darker scenes which the plasma never showed. Could not find a setting that would take it away. I will check other anamation movies when i get home today to see if maybe its just the Nemo movie.

Thanks for the links and advice, i will read through them this evening and report back what i come up with.
post #495 of 2660
I don't use DLNA streaming on this set,so I can't help much there. On the remote is a button labeled "view mode", I think, that controls the zoom function. Might try that to help with scaling. I watch a lot of SD content from HDD and this set is very kind to it considering its size. 10 years ago there was NO WAY I could watch SD content on a 70" screen @ 13 feet.

The halo might be from the sharpness control and/or quad pixel plus 2 feature. With Quad Pixel disabled, I can't set sharpness any higher than 2 without severe halos. With Quad Pixel enabled, I have to drop sharpness a point or two because of halos. This is on test patterns. I haven't evaluated on real moving content.
post #496 of 2660
Does anyone have any experience on when you drop a TV, does it ever work? Or what problems will occur later. A sharp 70 inch that was dropped and damaged on the front corner, the cap and bezel are bent. Is this TV trashed?
post #497 of 2660
Thread Starter 
is it yours or are you buying it ?

if the glass is cracked in anyway it's trash , there is a inside pane of glass as well & really the only way to tell would be turn it on , You can use a flash camera that might show the cracked glass in a photo as well .

but the bent bezel also means the panes of glass are under pressure @ the damage point & "could" fail at any time . repeated warming up & cooling off can affect that . then there is also the fact if it's a edge lighted model that some of the LED's are/might be off angle ,plus the LED's could fail later down the road too.
post #498 of 2660
Mike thank you. It was delivered to me like this. I didnt notice the damaged until one hour after the driver left. I filed a case with Amex and also with the merchant. The merchant is very mad that I didnt refuse the delievery, but I didnt see it because the foam plastic wrap was still on. I only focused on the screen. The screen looks good, but the top was clearly dropped and damaged. What do you think my options are? I want a new one, but the merchant is not calling me back.
post #499 of 2660
If it powers up OK and the picture at the damaged corner looks normal, I wouldn't be afraid to buy it as long it came with a warranty and a healthy discount.

I dropped a 47" 16:9 RP CRT a couple feet once. Enough to tweak the upper cabinet and pop the screens. After I put it back together and recalibrated it, it ran fine for another couple years until the power supply went out.

Oh...damaged in transit. Bad. The merchant should be insured as well as the shipment. Work with them and the carrier to properly document the damage and hope for a favorable outcome.

Is the foam or.cardboard damaged at all? I assume its badly crushed if the external force was enough to dent the aluminum. Packaging damage is your friend...in this case...
post #500 of 2660
IMPORTANT NOTE FOR GAMERS:

My son, the FPS player, is reporting that the ISF modes induce significant input lag. This is the first he's played since my calibration. Game mode is fine.
post #501 of 2660
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Originally Posted by CGGorman View Post

If it powers up OK and the picture at the damaged corner looks normal, I wouldn't be afraid to buy it as long it came with a warranty and a healthy discount.

I dropped a 47" 16:9 RP CRT a couple feet once. Enough to tweak the upper cabinet and pop the screens. After I put it back together and recalibrated it, it ran fine for another couple years until the power supply went out.

Oh...damaged in transit. Bad. The merchant should be insured as well as the shipment. Work with them and the carrier to properly document the damage and hope for a favorable outcome.

Is the foam or.cardboard damaged at all? I assume its badly crushed if the external force was enough to dent the aluminum. Packaging damage is your friend...in this case...

I took over 20 pics and sent them to the merchant. The foam was cracked into two pieces, however, it didnt look like that until you touch the foam pieces. The delivery people took the foam off and placed it on the side of the box them, I never saw the foam pieces until an hour later. Also, I found the cap that goes on top of the bezel in two pieces in the bottom of the box. The merchant says that they want to work with me, but tris upset that I didnt refuse delivery. I didnt focus on the foam or bezel, only on the screen. The delievery people only had a minute to power on the screen, then they left. I didnt even take the TV out of the box for me to see if there was damaged on the bottom of the TV. At least Amex is with me. They did a charge back.
FYI: The box is dent in about 2-3 inches and is torn at the place of impact. I asked the driver about it and they all the boxes are like this and the inside should be fine. Well it was not.
post #502 of 2660
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Originally Posted by cjre1 View Post

Mike thank you. It was delivered to me like this. I didnt notice the damaged until one hour after the driver left. I filed a case with Amex and also with the merchant. The merchant is very mad that I didnt refuse the delievery, but I didnt see it because the foam plastic wrap was still on. I only focused on the screen. The screen looks good, but the top was clearly dropped and damaged. What do you think my options are? I want a new one, but the merchant is not calling me back.

you are lucky you used a Amex card as that will force the seller to work with you . Start all conversations saying you are contesting the credit card charge with Amex & want a immediate replacement now ! That should light a Fire under the Sellers A$$... save all the packing material & start taking photo's of everything box,foam,the damage to the Display , as long as you called the same day then there should not be a problem . BUT I would report to Amex now that the seller is NOT co-operating with you . get the case # as well . Email the seller a written claim of shipping damage. The more paperwork you compile the better it is ! This Is Very Important that you do all of the above . Don't let the seller tell you how to proceed & string you along . the more Pro-active you are the faster this will be taken care of .
post #503 of 2660
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Originally Posted by cjre1 View Post

FYI: The box is dent in about 2-3 inches and is torn at the place of impact. I asked the driver about it and they all the boxes are like this and the inside should be fine. Well it was not.

That is dead give-away that the driver damaged the box himself & was giving you B S line ...... Remember next time don't sign anything till you inspect , I always write on the bill of lading that says "un-known internal shipping damage " I also noted on the bill any marks,dents,holes,scrapes, anything even if the Units is not damaged in any way ..
I found IF the driver puts the shipping bill in your face 1st thing off & says sign here quickly THAT is a Huge RED FLAG that there is something Wrong !!!
post #504 of 2660
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Originally Posted by Fastslappy View Post

you are lucky you used a Amex card as that will force the seller to work with you . Start all conversations saying you are contesting the credit card charge with Amex & want a immediate replacement now ! That should light a Fire under the Sellers A$$... save all the packing material & start taking photo's of everything box,foam,the damage to the Display , as long as you called the same day then there should not be a problem . BUT I would report to Amex now that the seller is NOT co-operating with you . get the case # as well . Email the seller a written claim of shipping damage. The more paperwork you compile the better it is ! This Is Very Important that you do all of the above . Don't let the seller tell you how to proceed & string you along . the more Pro-active you are the faster this will be taken care of .

I hear you, that is exactly what I did. I filed a claim with Amex and told the merchant that I did. They didnt like that at all. Amex told me that they reversed the charge. That sure will light a fire under their butt because I have their broken TV and they dont have the money. Within one hour of getting the box, I was ready to unpack the TV and saw the damaged. The merchant told me that I dropped it on its top. HUH? Like I can lift 80lbs flip it upside down and drop it on the top. NO WAY!!! That is total BS. They had the rear wrap on and I didnt remove it. I know that this was my fault, however, it was only an hour, so I have a case becuase I didnt wait long. Also, I asked the driver three times, the box is dent is that ok, He said all boxes get dented you cant help that and that is shipping, however, the inside foam protects the item. Well, I was dumb not to touch the foam. They were rushing me, they pulled the TV in, and left in one min flat. I could not even take the tv out of the box, so basically, I never got to inspect the entire TV. The merchant told me that they were suppose to remove it from the box, which they didnt. I could not see the bottom. I think this is a shipping issue and they need to replace this.

YOU HAVE TO READ THIS PART: I called amex up and while on the phone speaker, the merchant called me and I put him on speaker, boy was he rude, basically told me to take a flying leap and other things. that I will have eat the TV. The Amex rep typed everything in the case for 45 mins that we were on the phone. He could not beleive that he was talking to me like this. He even told me that he will send a sharp rep out to fix the TV. You cant fix this issue, plus it is compromised. He also said that he will send me the $2,00 cap, so I can put back on. The frame is bent dumb merchant, how can you fix that? He hung up on me. I am so happy that AMEX heard this. I think that I will win this case. What do you think?
post #505 of 2660
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Originally Posted by cjre1 View Post

I hear you, that is exactly what I did. I filed a claim with Amex and told the merchant that I did. They didnt like that at all. Amex told me that they reversed the charge. That sure will light a fire under their butt because I have their broken TV and they dont have the money. Within one hour of getting the box, I was ready to unpack the TV and saw the damaged. The merchant told me that I dropped it on its top. HUH? Like I can lift 80lbs flip it upside down and drop it on the top. NO WAY!!! That is total BS. They had the rear wrap on and I didnt remove it. I know that this was my fault, however, it was only an hour, so I have a case becuase I didnt wait long. Also, I asked the driver three times, the box is dent is that ok, He said all boxes get dented you cant help that and that is shipping, however, the inside foam protects the item. Well, I was dumb not to touch the foam. They were rushing me, they pulled the TV in, and left in one min flat. I could not even take the tv out of the box, so basically, I never got to inspect the entire TV. The merchant told me that they were suppose to remove it from the box, which they didnt. I could not see the bottom. I think this is a shipping issue and they need to replace this.

YOU HAVE TO READ THIS PART: I called amex up and while on the phone speaker, the merchant called me and I put him on speaker, boy was he rude, basically told me to take a flying leap and other things. that I will have eat the TV. The Amex rep typed everything in the case for 45 mins that we were on the phone. He could not beleive that he was talking to me like this. He even told me that he will send a sharp rep out to fix the TV. You cant fix this issue, plus it is compromised. He also said that he will send me the $2,00 cap, so I can put back on. The frame is bent dumb merchant, how can you fix that? He hung up on me. I am so happy that AMEX heard this. I think that I will win this case. What do you think?

Ya Did Good ! Amex has already put a hold on his money, Soo it's a done deal .. ...
Yeah sounds like they all knew that the display was damaged before they got to your house & are trying to railroad & B S you in to eating the Display .
post #506 of 2660
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Originally Posted by nettad View Post

coming from a high end sammy plasma my eyes are not pleased at the moment. I like the tv and think eventually I will be able to get it right but it is frustrating to say the least.

I was in the same boat, but I had to have the 80". I am used to LED now
post #507 of 2660
cjre1 -- can you name the seller, so we can avoid them?
post #508 of 2660
I'd like to know the seller too. I have a 70 getting delivered tomorrow afternoon and this story is getting me a little nervous. Who was the delivery company?
post #509 of 2660
Don't accept the delivery until you have fully inspected the unit. The driver can't leave until you sign. If he throws a fit, offer him a coke and a seat but insist on doing it your way.
post #510 of 2660
My 70 inch was delivered yesterday by NEMF. Chris at Cleveland was very clear not to sign for it unless I turned it on first. The driver said that was not an option and Chris instructed me to put box damaged on the receiver which I did in case we needed to make a claim. In the end it appears everything worked out Ok as the TV seems fine but I think I would have preferred to pay more for shipping to have better experience. The stress of receiving a $3k tv and worrying if I didn't didn't sign the shipping paperwork in the right way may cost me wasn't a great experience. I would have paid 100 to 200 dollars more for 2 drivers to show up, carry the tv into my house without my help, have them turn on the tv and confirm its operating condition similar to an experience I had with a delivery from "Cr" on my 36 CRT HDTV 8 years ago. I don't like the thought of paying for shipping but sometimes you get what you don't pay for.
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