Official Sharp AQUOS LC-60LE847U & LC-70LE847U Owners Thread - Page 21

I'm going to try the CEC module from pulse-eight. The Rii would be great if I can map just a couple keys to control the TV and AVR.

I just bought a Harmony One remote and it works very well with all my devices, except for the Netflix setup. I am still trying to get this set up. I had to make a new activity for it. I thought I had it working but I didnt totally get it right. I cant seem to get the remote to turn on the TV with netflix. One time t works fine, then the next time, it turns off the TV and my dish goes on. URG.

Very nice setup, but man, overkill!! JK. Time for a larger house. How is the glare on the TV since it is next to the window?

"The 745 is a rare creature in TV land: a step-up model that actually has worse picture quality." http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-t...=latestReviews

"Compared with the entry-level 640U, the main step-up on the 745U reviewed here is 3D and an improved Smart TV suite. Meanwhile the yet more expensive 847U gets the extra yellow pixel of Quattron, which in past reviews did nothing to improve picture quality, and a 240Hz refresh rate. Given these differences, spending more for the 847 doesn't seem worthwhile. Note that unlike last year, the 70-inch Sharps for 2012 are all edge-lit, not full-array."

Basically he says save your money, skip the 3D and get the 640u model. I do hope they do a full review of the 847u soon, but this review gives me pause since it is not at all what I'm hearing from the folks on this forum.

Thoughts?
--John

Thanks for this review and link. I in fact looked side by side between the 640U, 745U and 847U. Here are my findings. His review is mostly accurate. I would say that the 847U is better in color, black levels and gamma, plus judder than the 640 and 745. The 640 does look better than the 745. The 847U looks better than the 640 and 745. They should of skipped the 745 model. Actually, if you ask Sharp, they sell more 640's and 847's then the 745. For $200.00 getting the 847U is worth it.

Another thing, I tested out the 8470U made specifically for Costco and Sam's. The 8470U blows all these sets away. Believe it or not, the 8470U has better blacks, no clouding at all on the sets from Costco and Sam's. Per Sharp these sets are made for these merchants. Another thing, per my post many pages back, the 847 series has a different chip set than the 640 and 745's. I talked to a tier 3 Sharp engineer and he stated to me that these are the second generation chips that will also be installed in their 2013 models as well. It is an upgraded EEPROM chip, with several other chips that work like a CPU in a computer. Total of 11 chips were upgraded. The firmware is also different in these. These chips are only installed in the 847 and 8470U models.

Another thing, as I noticed that you have more features and adjustments with the 847 series than with the 640 and 745. I spent months testing these units out before I bought. Costco is the way to do becuase you not only get another year of
warranty, but you get two 3D rechargable glasses, which is over $100.00 for the pair.

If you are totally serious about your TV and a die hard like me, please test them all out. Costco has all three, but the lighting in costco is very hard to deal with since it is a warehouse lighting, so it doesnt give you a true color depth viewing, but you will see the clouding in the 640 and 745.

Go to a Magnolia store and check out the 745 and 847. Since the 640 is an older
model, but the store standards, most stores might not carry them anymore.

I am glad that I paid extra for a better TV, with double the warranty and for 2 pair of 3D rechargable glasses.

CNET does have good reviews, but since they didnt do a review on the 847 or 8470U, dont run off and get the 640 because of this review unless if money is tight. The 3D on these sets are awesome!! 640 no go!!

Please do your own due diligence to see what you think.

To add: Sharp plans to sell out of the 745 and discontinue these sometime this year. They are currently not making anymore, my sources told me so.

cjre1 - thanks for your posts. I'm getting ready to pull the trigger and this is exactly the kind of review folks need to see.

What I don't get in their video reviews is that I see things totally differently than what they describe they are seeing! For example, in their LG LM7600 review they say blacks aren't deep and contrast is low. From where I sat in front of the computer, I'd be totally ok with the black levels of that TV. In fact their next review of a plasma and the one for 745U showed a considerably duller picture. Try it yourself!

It could be that through video capture the LG looked better, and in person it was the opposite.

A software developer was working with my 847 a couple nights ago and says that it handles IP commands much better than the 2011 Elites.

Not to jump back to an earlier subject but, has there been any definitive proof that the paint roller solution works regarding clouding on the 847U ? Any before and after pics available?

Oh boy! For a moment I thought we're back to issues of transporting the TV on it's side.

I was just checking out Sears to see if they have the 847 in stock and saw this great deal on a bundle package, NOT. Just north of 103k. I wish someone had it in stock so I could at least see it.

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I have heard from many people that half say the roller thing works and half say that it doesnt. Myself I didnt try it because my set has no clouding at all. Trust me on this, I am very anal about ym stuff that I buy.

I wonder if the clouding plagues certian models. Maybe there is no clouding in the 8470U models.

Does anyone have an 8470U model that has clouding. Im not talking about the 847 model. Thanks.

LOL , I would not buy anything from that list. Way over priced, especially the HDMI cable and the Harmony remote is like the 2010 model. Try Amazon, way better deal. I bought all my stuff from Amazon, except for the TV or course. LOL.

Harmony One is virtually inoperable when navigating through menus and attempting to make selections in the Hulu Plus app on the 847U. The button sensitivity is sky high - one press of a button equals 2 presses and sometimes 3. Even the Sharp remote included with the TV has trouble. I've contacted Hulu support and was told they were able to replicate the issue but could not guarantee a fix.

+1. The reviews somtimes are only one sided. True what you have said. I totally agree with the black levels on the plasma.

Hi All - I'm completely new to this thread, but when read it, I had to join and post a recent photo of my 8470U. Picture is amazing, but clouding is pretty bad...I sent the images to Sharp and I'm waiting to hear back.

Hope this helps! Let me know if you have any questions.

I have some clouding on a black screen with no content or credits.

Ouch. I dont have this on mine. Sorry. But when you watch TV is the clouding there? I dont see it.
Have you used the roller?

I just checked mine and I can confirm that I have no clouding at all even on seeing the credits. You have the same model as I do. I wonder what the deal is.

Does anyone know how clouding occurs on these TV's? I did some research and read a lot of different things about clouding.

Yeah it's bad eh? I thought that was normal for edge-lit LED's, but I guess mine was the anomaly for this model. I have not tried the roller. Sharp is going to address the issue. They have been amazing to deal with so far.

When I watch something bright, obviously, there is no visible clouding...but take a look at what the image looks like if it is dark....

Wow, that is bad.

OMG, that is very bad. I would say my friend that you got a bad set. I have never seen anything this bad. I could not even get mine that bad even if I tried.

Okay so it's not just me who thinks this is bad!! It's such a bummer, since this tv is on the pricey side. Any others have positive/negative experiences with clouding on the 8470U?

Also, does anyone know if clouding changes over time? Can it get better or worse?

I have never seen a 8470U cloud, however, I have seen a regular 847U cloud, but not that bad. I know every TV will cloud a little (edge lighting characteristic).

Can you please do me a favor tell us what month it was manufactuered? Mine was March 2012, factory mexico. Box 455 out of 978 stack, pallet 76. Mine stated this on the box.

My limited experience points to improvement over time.

Is that some kind of joke? I think you are experienced with TV's. I have read your posts.

This is only my third large LCD screen. One never had clouding and the other was minor but cleared up entirely within the first year. This one has minor to moderate (visible but tolerable) clouding and is still far too new to draw any conclusions.

The paint roller helped but it takes some technique and finesse. Seems like I had to roll from dark areas into the cloud areas and pressure was critical. I still think it will level out even more over time, so I'm not stressing it.

I'm getting an 847U in a week or so. I've been looking for Suzook's settings but haven't stumbled upon them yet. Can someone point me in the right direction to find them? Thanks in advance!