Official Panasonic ST50 Series Discussion Thread [No Street Price Talk] - Page 42

If you open the tv it will void the warranty.

thank you. right on. thats what I said to him.

It would be much easier if manufacturers just stopped including speakers in TV's altogether

Get the Panasonic 2.1 soundbar/subwoofer. Use HDMI ARC connection. It will work perfectly, sound good, and you can use the same TV remote. Turn TV speakers off in audio menu, switch to Home Theater setting. Problem solved.

cool. thanks for the great advice.

am on the phone with fios at the moment. they are checking on my question.

if I cannot control the fios box audio outputs, I will get the Panasonic 2.1 system.

it took some work but I figured out how to control the fios set top box analog outputs volume with the fios remote.

once I found the info (right in the remote manual), it was simple and worked first time I tried to program it.

I run the audio outputs (rca jacks) to the jbl (adapt the rca to 1/4" stereo phone plug).
works beautifully.

I can use the tv remote to control the tv speakers if I don't feel like turning on the jbl.

very pleased right now.

I see a panasonic plasma ST50 series tv in my future.

thank you again to all who replied and helped me with this.

any questions, feel free to ask me.

Glad you got your issue solved, chas. Those JBL's are nice speakers. I use them in live audio situations all the time.

I was finally able to solve my netflix issue (the viera app would not eben allow me to the login screen). Came across a suggestion to change my DNS to Google's DNS of 8.8.8.8. and it worked instantly. I have no idea why though.

thank deadphish. you rock bro! glad you got your problem fixed.

my jbl is a eon10 g2. its just been gathering dust. which is not cool.

it is going to be fantastic for my needs with a flat screen tv.

I own the 55" ST50, the 3D crosstalk seems to come and go, that's the best way to describe it. I was watching Hugo (pretty good representation of 3D) one night and everything was perfect, I turned everything off and continued the movie the next day where I left off and there was some crosstalk. I also played a game where there was some crosstalk, if I looked in certain directions in the game though it was gone. Despite what Katzmaier said, the experience I've had with crosstalk so far seems to be situational and not caused by the display, if it was caused by the display I would think you'd have it 100% of the time. Overall i'm impressed by the 3D actually, but it's my first 3D tv so that doesn't say much. To be honest i'm having more issues with 2D picture than 3D, which makes no sense considering the 2D is supposed to be what's good on this tv. The black level on this TV is good, you can see that on a screen that's supposed to black (such as a loading/installing screen on a PS3). Despite this good black level I keep seeing pixilation or contrast issues with dark scenes in movies and such. This could probably be fixed with settings but i'm no where near a videophile so don't know how to fix it.

Try setting sharpness to 0. That will fix some artifacting. Hdtvs should not hav any sharpening enabled. Also check to make sure the contrast isnt cranked up high.

Not sure about Panasonic but i found out not to long ago, that on some brands 0 isn't actually 0. For example my Sony Sharpness at 0 adds artificial sharpening, 20 is actually the 0 in that it neither adds edge enhancement or softens the picture.

Of course this is mute if for Panasonic 0 is 0.

Just putting it out there that some other brands 0 doesn't mean 0 processing.

Aaron

I believe I read from an insider on another forum that there may by a sync issue with the new BlueTooth glasses system. That could explain why the crosstalk comes and goes.

I don't know whether crosstalk depends at all on which movie you're watching, but so far we've had bad crosstalk in night scenes of "Tangled" followed by almost zero crosstalk anywhere in "MegaMind."



Now that's interesting... and might explain why my experience seems to vary by movie.

It depends on the contrast/dynamic range of a scene (brights against darks are worst case scenario) and the "depth" of the 3D effect (i.e. the width/amount of stereo separation). Crosstalk will definitely vary wildly across different content or even different scenes.

I seem to see more cross talk on all the new TV's at BB that I have looked at. They all have Hugo and Tintin for demo. Hugo seems to have a lot of ghosting from what I've seen.

if you tell them you opened the TV yes...

but if you don't say a thing, NO.

somebody has to peal the bananas.

You should always set sharpness with a test pattern, some TVs actually have a softening filter that turns on after the sharpness is turned down past a certain level.

I recommend the Sharpness pattern on the Spears&Munsil Blu-ray test disc.

Are you seeing the pixelation issues in the dark area or Blu-ray movies or from other sources?

I'm not positive this is the same thing, but I think I can see what he's talking about mostly on broadcast HD and not so much Blu-ray. Looks like pixelation or a lot of small artifacts or something. Noticed the same thing on a GT30 for the time I had it, but it's situational enough that it hasn't really bothered me very much.

Blanket81 try a different movie. Hugo is known to produce crosstalk.

I just picked up my 55ST50 from Best Buy yesterday and started D-Nice's initial setup slides. I can't tell you how beautiful the TV looks. I have it in another room to do the 100 hour run so it doesn't bother anyone. Once I am done I'll take a picture.

I am really amazed at how light (weight-wise) and thin the TV is. I had a 3-4 year old 42 inch (I think) Samsung LCD and it was thick compared to this. And the heat output on the plasma is less than that particular TV, to me anyway.

You hit the nail on the head, it is cable that it is the worst on, blu rays not so much, I have seen it, but only on blu rays of older movies they had to remaster in HD. It is usually in a dark area of a scene but i have seen it basically take up the whole screen. It doesn't even have to be that dark of a scene though, someone walks into an apartment building from outside where the sun is shining and the picture goes from awesome to crap. In fact I would go so far as to say my cable/broadcast HD picture is worse on this tv than my old one, which is a 2008 model lcd! It's making me think the better the tv the more stuck up they are with source material. I'm still playing around with settings, I didn't know turning down brightness actually meant turning up black level. I'll also turn sharpness down. I'll play with contrast but i personally seem to like a lot of contrast. For instance i like game mode, which puts contrast at 100%, and then i just turn it down a little and turn down everything else quite a bit. Regarding 3D, I think like some others said, that it's going to vary by content. I watched smurfs (not a very good movie) and never saw any crosstalk. Hugo I watched more than halfway through and never saw any, but I pop it in again and it's there. I watched two 3D movies on demand last night and never saw any on either. Maybe it is a syncing issue like someone mentioned, that would explain the same movie having none one day but having it the next.

Same here
Please measure whats the hight from the bottom to the panel?

When my STW50 arrives (no delivery date yet from Amazon.de) I'll post a bunch of pictures

Does anyone know where i can get these "slides" people keep talking about to break-in my tv? How important is it really to break-in the tv? Is the only purpose of breaking-in to help prevent IR and/or burn-in?

Could more of you ST50 owners perhaps speak to the broadcast HD image of this TV? We do watch a lot of sports -HBO-Breaking Bad- CNBC- news etc... on COX cable- I have heard reports of a "softer" image on the ST50- . I like a sharp, ultra clear image -that I now have- and dont think I would like a softer image. Am I needlessly concerned? Otherwise this panel seems fantastic. Thanks.

Had the Panasonic tech come out to look at the pink/green on my 55ST50 today. He agreed there was not uniformity in the panel. First he went into the SM and adjusted VSUS from low to high. It helped a little, but we could both still see it. Then he removed the back panel to adjust the voltage to see if that would make things uniform. Unfortunately it did not. They are ordering a new panel from Panasonic. I should have an update in about a week.

review of the UK 50VT50 by david mackenzie from HDTVtest
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/panas...1204101757.htm

Could you elaborate on this? I don't know much about this, and I realize D-Nice says that the slides are not intended to prevent IR/Burn-in, but it just makes sense to me that it must help at least a little bit. I've always understood that the proper way to help prevent IR/Burn-in on plasmas is to refrain from leaving static logos and letter/pillar-boxing on the screen for extended periods of time within the first 100 or so hours of the set's life, as that is the when the phosphors are at their most intense and thus are most prone to IR/Burn-in. Does it not, then, make sense that the 100 hours of solid-image slides would serve a very similar function? Or is it more a matter of IR/Burn-in not even being problems to worry about anymore? Please set me straight here.

Solidifies my decision to get a 65ST50. Great review.