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post #2221 of 9468
5/1/12 at 4:36pm
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Originally Posted by eagle_2 View Post

You mean the ST50 line isn't unique to this?

That's too bad to hear though. That really makes me wonder what they were thinking at Panasonic. Why would anybody who buys a plasma actually want to see motion interpolation forced on even when it is off? I'd love to hear somebody there try and explain their reasoning. It makes everything look like it was shot on video like behind-the-scenes footage of the film instead of watching the film itself.

A more important question is: how about the GT50 line? Can anybody comment if that line also does this with 23.976 content when played at 60Hz?

Wouldn't a good solution be to set the BD player to output 60Hz so it does the conversion rather than the TV? That way, you could at least see which handles it to your liking and use your preferable converter.
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post #2222 of 9468
5/1/12 at 5:01pm
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Originally Posted by eagle_2 View Post

You mean the ST50 line isn't unique to this?

That's too bad to hear though. That really makes me wonder what they were thinking at Panasonic. Why would anybody who buys a plasma actually want to see motion interpolation forced on even when it is off? I'd love to hear somebody there try and explain their reasoning. It makes everything look like it was shot on video like behind-the-scenes footage of the film instead of watching the film itself.

A more important question is: how about the GT50 line? Can anybody comment if that line also does this with 23.976 content when played at 60Hz?

I think the reasoning is , the TV is simply incapable of displaying true 24p, so they had to choose the next best option?
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post #2223 of 9468
5/1/12 at 6:23pm
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Originally Posted by sage11x View Post

And there was no confrontation so no reason to waste a moderators time or earn a fellow contributing member a strike for something that was a simple mistake in judgment.

Still it's the AVS policy that we shouldn't be correcting each other unless it's about the accuracy of technical information. I deleted my post to you too.
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post #2224 of 9468
5/1/12 at 7:20pm
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Originally Posted by HD70GUY View Post

MoggSquad,

Thanks for the reply, good to know how long other are waiting. I'm assuming that's Amazon you ordered from.

I just orfered a 55st50 on monday an they will deliver it on thursday. It made it to the regional warehouse, today...impressive
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post #2225 of 9468
5/1/12 at 7:33pm
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Originally Posted by eagle_2 View Post


A more important question is: how about the GT50 line? Can anybody comment if that line also does this with 23.976 content when played at 60Hz?

It doesn't matter with the GT50 since it has a 96hz mode.
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post #2226 of 9468
5/1/12 at 7:43pm
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Originally Posted by bull3964 View Post

It doesn't matter with the GT50 since it has a 96hz mode.

Not true - only the VT50 has 96Hz.
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post #2227 of 9468
5/1/12 at 7:45pm
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Originally Posted by kevin_mahaney View Post

Wouldn't a good solution be to set the BD player to output 60Hz so it does the conversion rather than the TV? That way, you could at least see which handles it to your liking and use your preferable converter.

Well as it stands it seems I can't use the media player feature for most file types anyways, since it won't recognize so many common files. But as I've said, when I used my blu-ray player to output the mkv at 60Hz the motion was fine. It's obvious the tv is adding some motion smoothing when it is doing the converting.
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post #2228 of 9468
5/1/12 at 8:03pm
Hey all, just got my new 60ST50 hooked up and am pretty pleased. I do have a question, everywhere online as well as the box says that it has Pandora on it but for the life of me I cannot find it in the Viera Link. There are 3 pages of things but none of them is Pandora. Can anyone help?
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post #2229 of 9468
5/1/12 at 8:23pm
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Originally Posted by buening82 View Post

Hey all, just got my new 60ST50 hooked up and am pretty pleased. I do have a question, everywhere online as well as the box says that it has Pandora on it but for the life of me I cannot find it in the Viera Link. There are 3 pages of things but none of them is Pandora. Can anyone help?

You have to download it from the Viera Market.
Internet -> Viera Market -> Music
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post #2230 of 9468
5/1/12 at 9:00pm
Finally am able to enjoy my new 55st50. Extremely impressed so far. I'm coming from a 2010 46" sharp LCD, I think it is plenty bright and I am using c-nets settings. However I turned the color warmth down. I have it set to normal. Even the wife was very impressed and she is as far from a videophile as anyone could be, not that I am a videophile by any means.

I watched a little bit of everything today. As you can see below hockey was part of my viewing. I noticed some "flicker" while watching the flyers game live, but not during highlights and I tested my Pens Stanley cup DVD and didn't notice anything. Interesting....

For those that requested here are some pics. I have it connected to a Panasonic Blu ray, cable box, Xbox 360, and an old Sony 5.1 receiver. Will be replacing the receiver this summer with a Yamaha 673 and the energy 5.1 speakers.
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post #2231 of 9468
5/1/12 at 10:36pm
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Originally Posted by RangersFan View Post

Gaming question. Do different viewing modes affect gaming input lag? And those who game and get it professionally calibrated, do you have a specific calibration mode for gaming or do you use the same settings that you watch movies and tv shows with?

bump, any gamers? bout to pull the trigger on one of these sets and I am most interested in knowing how the gaming performance is. I'm already sold on picture quality for watching movies and TV, but playing games on plasma, i've always been hesitant.
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post #2232 of 9468
5/2/12 at 12:15am
Can anyone comment on how much their set buzzes? Anytime there is a lighter color on the screen I can clearly hear buzzing. Debating exchanging it for another one.
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post #2233 of 9468
5/2/12 at 5:28am
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Originally Posted by RangersFan View Post

bump, any gamers? bout to pull the trigger on one of these sets and I am most interested in knowing how the gaming performance is. I'm already sold on picture quality for watching movies and TV, but playing games on plasma, i've always been hesitant.

No need to be hesitant. It's one of the best performing TVs on the market for gaming. 16ms input lag time.
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post #2234 of 9468
5/2/12 at 5:34am
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Originally Posted by HLdan View Post

No jokes but for a minute there I thought I had written you're entire post save for the model of TV. I ordered a 55GT50 from Abe's almost two weeks ago and also paid extra for the upgraded shipping. I received the exact same horrible service from them as you did. After ordering I got an email from someone at Abe's so-called "Panasonic HD Team" advising me to call them ASAP. I knew it was just a pushy salesman that lured me to call them so he could pitch the extended warranty down my throat. He tried several shady sales tactics until I told him that I was buying the warranty through Panasonic. He already lied and said they only offered 90 days labor and I had to carry in the TV. Panasonic said they have a one year P&L with in-home service for my size of TV.

My tracking information never updated past the first day showing it was being shipped from NY to my state. After 10 days I called the trucking company and asked why the tracking had not been updated and he wasn't helpful. Afterwards I called Abe's and spoke to a very rude guy who claimed to be the CS manager. After I threatened to cancel the whole deal he apologized and took care of things and now they are delivering it tomorrow morning, plus he gave me an extra $100 restaurant gift card to use. I'm not at all pleased with their customer service and after this TV delivery I won't be dealing with them either.
I have absolutely no idea how Abe's managed to get such great ratings on Resellerratings.com?

Great stuff, thanks for posting. I was planning on calling them (Abe's) today. I was too busy yesterday and now I am glad I waited. I will call and see if I can force a rush like you did. I don't really care about the gift certificate, just want my 50st50 sitting in my living room. I do actually use restaurants.com often though, usually paying $4-7 for a $20 gift certificate. $100 would last a long time doing that!
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post #2235 of 9468
5/2/12 at 5:42am
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Originally Posted by minx88 View Post

Can anyone comment on how much their set buzzes? Anytime there is a lighter color on the screen I can clearly hear buzzing. Debating exchanging it for another one.

My 60" buzzes. I can definitely hear it from 10 feet away when the volume is low. I'm not sure if I can hear it at normal volume levels. Also, I think I'm trying to listen for it, rather than try and enjoy my programming.
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5/2/12 at 5:53am
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Originally Posted by romanoj2248 View Post

Finally am able to enjoy my new 55st50. Extremely impressed so far. I'm coming from a 2010 46" sharp LCD, I think it is plenty bright and I am using c-nets settings. However I turned the color warmth down. I have it set to normal. Even the wife was very impressed and she is as far from a videophile as anyone could be, not that I am a videophile by any means.

I watched a little bit of everything today. As you can see below hockey was part of my viewing. I noticed some "flicker" while watching the flyers game live, but not during highlights and I tested my Pens Stanley cup DVD and didn't notice anything. Interesting....

For those that requested here are some pics. I have it connected to a Panasonic Blu ray, cable box, Xbox 360, and an old Sony 5.1 receiver. Will be replacing the receiver this summer with a Yamaha 673 and the energy 5.1 speakers.

Nice pics, thanks for sharing. Not that you can tell much from a pic, but the contrast from that repeorter to the ice looks promising.

As a side not We now have the same TV and the same Lenovo Y550 laptop if I'm seeing that right. Mine is in much worse condition due to kids and was setup as the HTPC before I got my BDP320 Blu-Ray player, we have two other laptops (Dell 6600 and Asus G74) for regular use.
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post #2237 of 9468
5/2/12 at 5:55am
Trying to decide between the 65st50 or the 65vt30? Since they are both the same price right now, which would you choose?
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post #2238 of 9468
5/2/12 at 5:56am
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Originally Posted by romanoj2248 View Post

I watched a little bit of everything today. As you can see below hockey was part of my viewing. I noticed some "flicker" while watching the flyers game live, but not during highlights and I tested my Pens Stanley cup DVD and didn't notice anything. Interesting....
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I saw the same flicker on that game on my st50. But I went in the other room and turned on my old CRT TV and tuned into the standard definition channel of the same network and saw the exact same flickering on that TV. So my conclusion is that it is the source not the st50 causing this when the arena strobe lights go off.
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5/2/12 at 5:59am
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Originally Posted by minx88 View Post

Can anyone comment on how much their set buzzes? Anytime there is a lighter color on the screen I can clearly hear buzzing. Debating exchanging it for another one.

I noticed buzzing on mine only when i had a pure white screen and no sound on. This buzzing was noticable from approximately 8 feet or so. I did not notice buzzing at any other moment at all. I didn't test different volume levels, but i was playing around with a few things right next to the screen while the hockey game was on and didn't hear buzzing over the volume. hope this helps.
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5/2/12 at 6:02am
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Originally Posted by RangersFan View Post

bump, any gamers? bout to pull the trigger on one of these sets and I am most interested in knowing how the gaming performance is. I'm already sold on picture quality for watching movies and TV, but playing games on plasma, i've always been hesitant.

I have played call of duty, NHL12 and MLB2k12 and have not had any issues. I am very aware of input lag. I took back TVs in the past due to input lag. I haven't noticed even a hint of discernable lag. However, i haven't played any extremely fast moving games that require strict precision such as fighting or instrument games. I put in a solid 2 or 3 hours session and didn't notice any kind of image retention issues either. I'd highly recommend for gaming.
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post #2241 of 9468
5/2/12 at 6:07am
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I have a WDTV Live HD media player and about 400 blu ray files and it plays them flawlessly. A lot of the files are .264 and mkv files and almost never a hiccup.

+1

I have an addiction to streaming devices. Logitech Squeezebox, Roku, Google TV, WD TV are all somewhere in my house. The WD HDTV Live+ has played everything I've thrown at it, and with a nice interface (and android remote control). Highly recommended for local files.
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5/2/12 at 6:16am
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Originally Posted by HD70GUY View Post

Nice pics, thanks for sharing. Not that you can tell much from a pic, but the contrast from that repeorter to the ice looks promising.

As a side not We now have the same TV and the same Lenovo Y550 laptop if I'm seeing that right. Mine is in much worse condition due to kids and was setup as the HTPC before I got my BDP320 Blu-Ray player, we have two other laptops (Dell 6600 and Asus G74) for regular use.

Same TV, but different laptop. I am using a macbook pro. My blu ray is the 220. I can't wait to get a new receiver. My current one doesn't even have a component video input. Just s-video, good old college days. At least it has an optical input for audio. My xbox360 also only has component output, no HDMI. So i'm excited to use the receiver to do a little upscaling.

As for the pics, they were taken with an iphone, so not the best quality. But i think the big take from them is that there is really no glare coming off the screen at all. My basement has 6 recessed lights lighting that room and there isn't any glare. Also, with that much lighting turned all the way up on the dimmer, the picture quality was very good. good blacks, good brightness, etc. I had concerns coming from an LCD, but so far i couldn't be happier.
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post #2243 of 9468
5/2/12 at 6:22am
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Originally Posted by Mister Shifter View Post

No need to be hesitant. It's one of the best performing TVs on the market for gaming. 16ms input lag time.

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Originally Posted by romanoj2248 View Post

I have played call of duty, NHL12 and MLB2k12 and have not had any issues. I am very aware of input lag. I took back TVs in the past due to input lag. I haven't noticed even a hint of discernable lag. However, i haven't played any extremely fast moving games that require strict precision such as fighting or instrument games. I put in a solid 2 or 3 hours session and didn't notice any kind of image retention issues either. I'd highly recommend for gaming.

thanks for replies. what about phosphor trailing and something called "floating blacks" that my friend complained about with his older gt25. also do you guys use the same of different video settings for gaming than you do movies and tv shows?
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post #2244 of 9468
5/2/12 at 6:33am
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Originally Posted by S281 View Post

Trying to decide between the 65st50 or the 65vt30? Since they are both the same price right now, which would you choose?

You're not the first one to ask this....

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1408473

Answer seems to be ST50
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post #2245 of 9468
5/2/12 at 6:38am
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Originally Posted by Lance_M View Post

My 60" buzzes. I can definitely hear it from 10 feet away when the volume is low. I'm not sure if I can hear it at normal volume levels.

Then why is it still in your home? It's defective - get it replaced. You shouldn't be able to hear it beyond about 5 feet.
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post #2246 of 9468
5/2/12 at 7:04am
From the side the black and white scheme looked just like the Lenovo. I even see an orange strip around the screen, but now I see that's juts a reflection of the couch on the silver bezel.

http://www.priceit.in/wp-content/upl...Pad-Y55011.jpg

I just bought a cheap Denon 1312 a few months back because my reciever was on the fritz and I needed a replacement pronto. Well now I'm regretting that as it has a small fraction of the output of my ancient HK AVR65 it replaced, and my Snell speakers need more power to sound right. Now I'm hooking the AVR 65 back up and just not routing video through at least until I get an Onkyo 809 Denon 3312 or similar quality model to what I'm replacing. I also have an old XBox 360 with composite, but plan on just using the TV input and stereo sound from the TOS-Link.
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post #2247 of 9468
5/2/12 at 7:06am
guys my 55 does not buzz at all, which is awesome my pioneer 5080 definitely buzzed!
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post #2248 of 9468
5/2/12 at 7:36am
I remember seeings a couple people mention that there is an eco mode on by default which switches to panasonic's screensaver after 3hrs...how do i turn this off? I cannot find where it is.
Thanks.
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post #2249 of 9468
5/2/12 at 8:03am
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Originally Posted by RandyWalters View Post

Then why is it still in your home? It's defective - get it replaced. You shouldn't be able to hear it beyond about 5 feet.

I was hoping it would reduce over time as others have claimed. I'll ask gf of she can hear it (unbiased)
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post #2250 of 9468
5/2/12 at 8:22am
My new 55" also buzzes significantly. The buzz varies and is proportionate to the brightness level on screen and can be heard from 10+ feet away over low-mid volume content.

It's a deal breaker for me, but I'm not sure if I should take my chances and re-order from Amazon or look for an alternative. (Others have suggested contacting Panasonic for possible quick fix...) I'm wondering what percentage of ST50s suffer from this?

For reference, I've aged the panel 100+ hours and calibrated per DNICE's suggested settings.
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