thanks for all the great replies, everyone is very helpful... the sets I saw were at 2 different BB's, setup at the 3D display area with the glasses... in one the ST50 was right next to the es8000
at eye level, when I asked for the remote to adjust settings, the salesman said they don't allow it because it's strictly only for 3D demos?? huh?
Anyways, I am going with the advice to find it at a couple other stores first, PC Richards is around here and maybe Sears will have it.
I have a little time too, I think July is when the 65" prices dipped last year, if I remember an early post correctly... so I definitely will check for the cinema mode first if someone will give me the dang remote... geez