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post #3151 of 9972
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Originally Posted by jonnythan View Post


Same thing at my Best Buy. The 55ST50 was in a 3D display and mounted right next to an eye-searingly bright LED but with good lighting. The 60UT50 was high near the ceiling and washed out by the bright pendant lights.

It prolly wasn't the lighting either,I went into 2 different best buys and both had the UT50 set for home use on standard mode for some reason,they were so dim I had to change them. Not having the filter does make them look dim but it doesn't make them look that bad.
post #3152 of 9972
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Originally Posted by Barana2080 View Post

I went to my local Paul's Tv to check out an St50. I don't know if it's the set up that they have but the set did have some sort of static. They were showing an animated movie, but I could see static or small color dots lighting up the entire screen. You could really tell in the widescreen black bars. Is this normal for a plasma or just bad static set up on their part .

Sounds like bad setup to me. They're probably using some sort of lousy component or even s-video distribution system.
post #3153 of 9972
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Originally Posted by jonnythan View Post


Sounds like bad setup to me. They're probably using some sort of lousy component or even s-video distribution system.

Yeah the screen looked terrible. I wonder why these retailers think they can sell tvs and display them so badly.
post #3154 of 9972
So I finally got my 55 ST50 set up last night. Tried a mix of Netflix (via PS3) and FIOS. I'm sure it's covered somewhere in this thread but does anyone know why :

(1) standard mode looks like utter garbage
(2) even in cinema mode the picture seems soft or just off in some way I can't quite describe, especially with FIOS content.

Contrast and black levels are amazing though. Kicks my 5 year old Samsung plasma in the teeth.
post #3155 of 9972
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Originally Posted by trinibwoy View Post

So I finally got my 55 ST50 set up last night. Tried a mix of Netflix (via PS3) and FIOS. I'm sure it's covered somewhere in this thread but does anyone know why :

(1) standard mode looks like utter garbage
(2) even in cinema mode the picture seems soft or just off in some way I can't quite describe, especially with FIOS content.

Contrast and black levels are amazing though. Kicks my 5 year old Samsung plasma in the teeth.

Surprising that the picture would look soft even with the FiOS content. Have you had a chance to check out any Bluray material yet?
post #3156 of 9972
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Originally Posted by jonnythan View Post

Sounds like bad setup to me. They're probably using some sort of lousy component or even s-video distribution system.

They are using that kind of distribution system...but unless a particular cable was bad that wouldn't explain why the UT panel I saw looked so much worse than every set within 20 feet of it. The picture was dark gray. Regardless of how poor the quality of the source is, all the displays are getting the same feed. That said, it's also possible that someone messed around with the settings and turned it to crap. lol
post #3157 of 9972
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Originally Posted by trinibwoy View Post

So I finally got my 55 ST50 set up last night. Tried a mix of Netflix (via PS3) and FIOS. I'm sure it's covered somewhere in this thread but does anyone know why :

(1) standard mode looks like utter garbage
(2) even in cinema mode the picture seems soft or just off in some way I can't quite describe, especially with FIOS content.

Contrast and black levels are amazing though. Kicks my 5 year old Samsung plasma in the teeth.

Standard mode is garbage. Cinema has bad gamma which will produce a washed out look. Try Custom and adjust the settings a bit - turn off all processing, lower Contrast to somewhere between 80 & 90, Brightness to 53-55, Color Temp to Warm 1 or 2.... These are just general suggestions, try adjusting them one tick at a time until you get an image you like. Also, you may want to adjust Color up or down too.
post #3158 of 9972
Thanks Randy. Can you suggest a good connection sequence and type of cables to help reduce HDMI handshake? Handshake has been a problem with my set-up on my last Smasung LCD also. I have a Scientific Atlanta cable box, a Denon AVR-1611 receiver, and a Sony Playstation 3 for playing DVDs (not into video games).

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Originally Posted by RandyWalters View Post

If there were any issue with the connections or an HDMI handshake issue it would affect the whole screen evenly, not just the lower half. And that scrambled colored interference pattern on the lower half looks like a board failure - it doesn't look like a handshake problem. I'm 99% positive that the board that drives the lower half of the screen is either failing or maybe the ribbon cable is just loose.


This could get tricky. I presume you're within the 30 day BB return window for the TV and also for the 4-yr EW so i'd return the defective TV for exchange (which should be no problem) but if you get a replacement TV make sure that EW that you bought gets applied to the replacement TV, and get it in writing. The fine print in the BB warranty states that if they have to replace the TV under the EW, the EW is considered "fulfilled" and is cancelled, screwing you out of the remaining years that you would have been covered for and you then have to buy another EW for the replacment TV.

So be sure that the STORE is replacing the TV, not their Extended Warranty department. If there's any ambiguity, return the EW for a full refund then buy a new EW for the replacement TV (and i'd consider getting a Mack EW instead of the BB EW).

With any warranty repair, you never ever want to utilize the EW while the TV is still under the one year factory warranty because if the cost to repair is too high, you use it all up too early and then it gets cancelled. Let the manufacturer handle all the repairs for the first year and leave the EW completely out of it until that factory warranty expires. And if you suffer a failure a few months after the factory warranty expires, Panasonic has been very good about covering the repairs when asked (many people here got free repairs even 3 months after the warranty expired).

If you don't want to deal with exchanging the TV, or if you're beyond the 30 day return policy window, then contact Panasonic and email them that picture and get a repair visit scheduled.

Edit - oops, i see you posted that you're returning the TV while i had my reply window open for a half hour. Just be mindful of the EW issue for the new TV.
post #3159 of 9972
"and i'd consider getting a Mack EW instead of the BB EW"



do you have any comment about Mack EW compared to SquareTrade?
post #3160 of 9972
How about DTV Express Warranty?

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Originally Posted by chas51 View Post

"and i'd consider getting a Mack EW instead of the BB EW"



do you have any comment about Mack EW compared to SquareTrade?
post #3161 of 9972
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Originally Posted by chas51 View Post

"and i'd consider getting a Mack EW instead of the BB EW"



do you have any comment about Mack EW compared to SquareTrade?

Hi Chas, I don't know a lot about Mack but I do know that SquareTrade is highly rated and very high on customer satisfaction. One thing to know (which I recently found out) that ST gives you a spending limit. For example if your TV costs $1500 then that's your spending limit. If you need service and contact ST and they perform a service that cost them $500 worth of parts and labor they will deduct that from your $1500 spending limit leaving an amount of $1000.

Say after that $1000 remaining balance you have more problems down the line and ST realizes they cannot repair it and you need a replacement TV, they will send you a check of the remaining spending limit of $1000. From then you'd use that amount towards a new TV if you so choose.
post #3162 of 9972
65ST50 will be delivered tomorrow between 11 and 1. No questions, just wanted to share the joy
post #3163 of 9972
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Originally Posted by HLdan View Post

Hi Chas, I don't know a lot about Mack but I do know that SquareTrade is highly rated and very high on customer satisfaction. One thing to know (which I recently found out) that ST gives you a spending limit. For example if your TV costs $1500 then that's your spending limit. If you need service and contact ST and they perform a service that cost them $500 worth of parts and labor they will deduct that from your $1500 spending limit leaving an amount of $1000.

Say after that $1000 remaining balance you have more problems down the line and ST realizes they cannot repair it and you need a replacement TV, they will send you a check of the remaining spending limit of $1000. From then you'd use that amount towards a new TV if you so choose.

yeah what you just explained about Squaretrade is the reason I'm considering buying an extended warranty direct from Panansonic, even though its double the Squaretrade warranty price. (I think they issue it through Servicenet, same as Sony)
post #3164 of 9972
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Originally Posted by Barana2080 View Post

Is this normal for a plasma

No.

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or just bad static set up on their part .

It could be a lot of things other than the display. Two possibilities would be a bad source and bad HDMI or other cables.
post #3165 of 9972
It's sad and frustrating every time I go into my local best buy (which is often) to see they always have their ST50 prominently displayed, but set on "Standard". The look is washed out grayish and dim.

They'd sell so many more if they're just put it on "Cinema". I'm sure many people dismiss arguably the best set on their floor just because of how it's setup in the store.
post #3166 of 9972
you rock HLdan. thank you for the excellent reply. that sounds like ok terms.

will probably go with ST.





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Originally Posted by HLdan View Post

Hi Chas, I don't know a lot about Mack but I do know that SquareTrade is highly rated and very high on customer satisfaction. One thing to know (which I recently found out) that ST gives you a spending limit. For example if your TV costs $1500 then that's your spending limit. If you need service and contact ST and they perform a service that cost them $500 worth of parts and labor they will deduct that from your $1500 spending limit leaving an amount of $1000.

Say after that $1000 remaining balance you have more problems down the line and ST realizes they cannot repair it and you need a replacement TV, they will send you a check of the remaining spending limit of $1000. From then you'd use that amount towards a new TV if you so choose.
post #3167 of 9972
60ST50 is coming tomorrow also. Hoping for a good set.
post #3168 of 9972
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Originally Posted by deathrattlehead View Post

60ST50 is coming tomorrow also. Hoping for a good set.

Same here! Between 8 and 12.
post #3169 of 9972
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Originally Posted by jonnythan View Post


Same here! Between 8 and 12.

3-7 for me. Coming from a 50". This could be epic.
post #3170 of 9972
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Originally Posted by deathrattlehead View Post

3-7 for me. Coming from a 50". This could be epic.

Hah, me too. 2006-era 50" Maxent plasma.
post #3171 of 9972
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Originally Posted by Mister Shifter View Post

It's sad and frustrating every time I go into my local best buy (which is often) to see they always have their ST50 prominently displayed, but set on "Standard". The look is washed out grayish and dim.

They'd sell so many more if they're just put it on "Cinema". I'm sure many people dismiss arguably the best set on their floor just because of how it's setup in the store.

Adjusted Custom is better, at least so if you believe Chad B's review, since Cinema has bad gamma which results in a washed-out look.
post #3172 of 9972
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Originally Posted by rjm-1 View Post

Thanks Randy. Can you suggest a good connection sequence and type of cables to help reduce HDMI handshake? Handshake has been a problem with my set-up on my last Smasung LCD also. I have a Scientific Atlanta cable box, a Denon AVR-1611 receiver, and a Sony Playstation 3 for playing DVDs (not into video games).

Are your hdmi cables high speed 1.4?
post #3173 of 9972
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Originally Posted by ludersven View Post

65ST50 will be delivered tomorrow between 11 and 1. No questions, just wanted to share the joy

Congrats! I'll be ordering the 50 ST50 later this summer.
post #3174 of 9972
Is it possible to turn off the viera sign when you first turn on the tv?
post #3175 of 9972
If looking at SquareTrade, check the pricing at CostCo.

You can purchase a ST warranty from CostCo even if you bought the TV elsewhere - but you must do so within 60 days of your purchase.

Also check out this article from Plasma TV Buying Guide for some great Consumer Information about after-market warranties:

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Common exclusions from coverage among all of the TV warranty service contract providers are:

Extended Warranty Starts from date of purchase of the TV and run concurrent with the manufacturer's warranty. The manufacturer's warranty supersedes the extended warranty during the first year.
TV screen burn in not covered.
Cosmetic damage or physical abuse
Pixel defect policy same as manufacturers policy
Pre-existing conditions that occur prior to effective date of contract
Manufacturer's defects occuring during the manufacturer's warranty period
TV must have valid manufacturer's warranty for at least 90 days
TV with removed or altered serial numbers
Cancellable within 30 days for full refund
Almost all cover damage caused by power surge or lightning
Any and all consequential damages

Following are the categories we felt were most noteworthy and important to the end user. We've come up with the following names to describe the most damaging clauses as "the buyout clause", "the dump clause", and "the strict limitation clause". A description of these clauses follows and explains why they are dangerous....

(See the article for more details & a nice Comparison Chart!)
post #3176 of 9972
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Originally Posted by sheshechic View Post

Adjusted Custom is better, at least so if you believe Chad B's review, since Cinema has bad gamma which results in a washed-out look.

We're using Cinema on our 60" ST50 - with Slight Adjustments as suggested by running the AVS HD 709 test disk - and are Very Happy with the results. Certainly do not see any indication of a "washed-out look."

Will give a run using Custom - probably within a few weeks - but on the ST30 we could not obtain as nice of a picture with Custom as we achieved under Cinema, and a VERY Superficial initial comparison suggested that that was also true on the ST50.

OTOH, there are a LOT more adjustments that can be made using Custom, so perhaps that mode will prove more advantageous than it did on the 30....
post #3177 of 9972
Newb question here. My set is scheduled to be delivered tomorrow. I am planning on running the prep slides, but I am going out of town this weekend. My question is... can I start the prep and then leave the tv off for a couple of days and then resume when I return? Also, is there a big difference between the prep settings and the out of the box settings that are posted?
post #3178 of 9972
Getting my ST50 delivered Monday! I hope it has comparable brightness & bright room usability to the Sony a3000 I'm replacing under warranty. Trying not to let the show room presentation make me nervous about my choice.
post #3179 of 9972
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Originally Posted by slinkyd View Post

Getting my ST50 delivered Monday! I hope it has comparable brightness & bright room usability to the Sony a3000 I'm replacing under warranty. Trying not to let the show room presentation make me nervous about my choice.

I just replaced a KDS-60A3000 with my new 60" ST. Trust me, you won't be disappointed. The Sony looks like crap compared to this thing. No need to worry about brightness either, I'm not sure why that keeps coming up. The ST50 gets PLENTY bright.
post #3180 of 9972
Hello fellow owners. My set came today, replaced a defective (buzzing) Samsung e7000. Picture on the ST50 looks great! Not sure what Panasonic was thinking with the red power light... Two questions for you:

- Any suggested DLNA servers? I was using TVMobili to stream files (avi, wmv, mkv, etc) to my e7000 and it worked great. When I run the DLNA client on the ST50 it says the files can't be played. It will do .mp4 but that's about it. I installed Serviio on my PC and if I connect to that it will play mkv files but still not avi/divx.

- I noticed a series of weird white flashes when watching a recorded show (season finale of Nikita on CW) and was wondering if anyone else has reported similar problems. The scene takes place during a press conference and there are camera flashes going off. I can't really describe it so here is a video I took: http://youtu.be/2JebCqH_u9Y. I didn't see any other weirdness like that during the rest of the show or in anything else I watched today so I'm not ruling out a glitch in the signal...

Thanks for the input!
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