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Originally Posted by chas51 View Post

http://www.whathifi.com/review/panasonic-tx-p50gt50


just found an interesting read. I know its for the GT50.

but since there is a similarity to the ST50, I thought it may be of some help to folks here.

mods please move this, if you deem this to be the wrong thread for it.

thank you.

This is for EU models. EU models have full flash support?
post #3302 of 9468
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Originally Posted by sheshechic View Post

This is for EU models. EU models have full flash support?

That goes right in the face of what we were told, flash going the way of the dinosaurs so no need for it. They(euro engineers)seem to think it's needed.
post #3303 of 9468
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Originally Posted by rwinston View Post

The latest issue of Sound & Vision, which I just got yesterday, reviews both the set I returned (LG 55LM7600) and the one I replaced it with (Panasonic 55ST50). (Although I actually got the 60" Panny, not the 55".) The two articles are by different writers, but the Panasonic came in as the clear winner between the two. The main knocks against it were the lackluster 3D and the lack of CMS controls. But they said it was a real bargain for the price and branded it "certified and recommended".

The LG, on the other hand, was said to be innovative but lacking in performance (video quality), especially for the price. Which was certainly my impression as well.

I feel vindicated. Although I'm still doing the slides on the ST50, so I haven't been able to really use it yet.

i am in the process of making the identical switch, only from the 47 LG to the 50 Panny.

How does the Panny brightness compare to the 6700? glad you made the move?
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Have had this set for a little over a month. Used D-nice slides for break in and calibration. My set has TERRIBLE buzz. I was hoping it would go away as it got some hours on it, but it did not. Just had the SS board replaced yesterday and I think its even louder now! Called Panasonic again to set up another repair. Needless to say I'm not very happy to pay 1600$ to be beta testing this TV.
post #3305 of 9468
I have an unusual question and not sure where to put it. But since this is one of two tvs I'm considering, I'll put it here ... I'm curious to know whether most people put a tv of this size (65 inches, 100 or so pounds) directly on a stand, or mount it on the wall. Are there any pluses or minuses I should know about either option before I make my decision?
post #3306 of 9468
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Originally Posted by tlockhart View Post

i am in the process of making the identical switch, only from the 47 LG to the 50 Panny.

How does the Panny brightness compare to the 6700? glad you made the move?

I'll let you know once I can start really watching it. From what little non-slide testing I've done, it does of course look not as bright as the LG. But my previous TV was also a Panasonic plasma (5 years old) and it compares favorably to that from what I've seen so far. I think it's going to be plenty bright for me, but I'm used to plasma anyway.

The TV is in a pretty bright room, and I appreciate that the screen is not as reflective as the LG. That helps a lot. The filter works well.
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Originally Posted by Gibson lp View Post

Have had this set for a little over a month. Used D-nice slides for break in and calibration. My set has TERRIBLE buzz. I was hoping it would go away as it got some hours on it, but it did not. Just had the SS board replaced yesterday and I think its even louder now! Called Panasonic again to set up another repair. Needless to say I'm not very happy to pay 1600$ to be beta testing this TV.

Buzzing has been a defect since 1999 and has affected all brands every year ever since then. I remember some people in 2001 who paid $10,000 for their Fujitsu Plasmas only to get a buzzer. All you can do is get it fixed, return it, or switch to LCD which has a lot more issues than buzzing.
post #3308 of 9468
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Originally Posted by RandyWalters View Post

Buzzing has been a defect since 1999 and has affected all brands every year ever since then. I remember some people in 2001 who paid $10,000 for their Fujitsu Plasmas only to get a buzzer. All you can do is get it fixed, return it, or switch to LCD which has a lot more issues than buzzing.


This is true. Just bummed about taking another day off to get it repaired again. That and the fact that the tech who claimed to have 30 experience jammed my usb thumb drive into my Ethernet port when hooking the TV back up. Uhhhhhhh that's not where that goes buddy. Also using a drill to remove screws and re installing them crooked. Stinks to have a brand new set treated like this. Obviously this is not Panasonic's fault.
post #3309 of 9468
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Originally Posted by RandyWalters View Post

Buzzing has been a defect since 1999 and has affected all brands every year ever since then. I remember some people in 2001 who paid $10,000 for their Fujitsu Plasmas only to get a buzzer. All you can do is get it fixed, return it, or switch to LCD which has a lot more issues than buzzing.

If it buzzes I send it back
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Hey Randy, what do you feel about the light output of this set? So far - unlike Gibson - I'm trying not to be too picky with this tv. I love just about everything except I've read its light is weak and it seems to show with whites. Fwiw I'm coming from a Sony LCD close to torch mode for 4 years. :/
post #3311 of 9468
Guys

Which TV do I go with? Coming from a 5 year old 50" Panasonic plasma that was struck by lightning.

Narrowed down to 60" ST50 or 55"GT50 that are the same price. Room where TV is at has one set of french doors, but is covered by a deck, so no direct light in the room. Mainly watching movies and sports and occasional HD cable shows.

Which TV should I go with?

Also, is Paul's TV a good place to order and ship a TV from?


Thanks inadvance for the quick responses!!!
post #3312 of 9468
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Originally Posted by Bridude View Post

Guys

Which TV do I go with? Coming from a 5 year old 50" Panasonic plasma that was struck by lightning.

Narrowed down to 60" ST50 or 55"GT50 that are the same price. Room where TV is at has one set of french doors, but is covered by a deck, so no direct light in the room. Mainly watching movies and sports and occasional HD cable shows.

Which TV should I go with?

Also, is Paul's TV a good place to order and ship a TV from?

Thanks inadvance for the quick responses!!!

GT50 will give you better options for day & night viewing, although the ST50 can handle the bright room just as well after calibration. I have 3 large windows to the right of my 60GT5o and the blacks & details hold up very well. However, as you may already know, reflections will result, although not as bad as on some tvs.

IMO, I would order from Amazon before Pauls since white glove service is generally much more reliable and returns/exchanges are much much easier too. Someone recently posted about Paul's white glove service, on this thread or the ST50, and it wasn't nice.
post #3313 of 9468
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Originally Posted by Bridude View Post

Narrowed down to 60" ST50 or 55"GT50 that are the same price. Room where TV is at has one set of french doors, but is covered by a deck, so no direct light in the room. Mainly watching movies and sports and occasional HD cable shows.

The answers that you're going to get are based on personal preference. My personal preference is to get the bigger screen.

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Also, is Paul's TV a good place to order and ship a TV from?

From what I've read you will get better service from Amazon. If something goes wrong, you can easily return the set to Amazon. It's much harder to do the same with Paul's TV.
post #3314 of 9468
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Originally Posted by Gibson lp View Post

.... That and the fact that the tech who claimed to have 30 experience jammed my usb thumb drive into my Ethernet port when hooking the TV back up. .... Also using a drill to remove screws and re installing them crooked. Stinks to have a brand new set treated like this. Obviously this is not Panasonic's fault.

Who knew about USB devices 30 years ago??

Any chance that not getting the screws straight might contribute to the buzzing?
Thinking here about the owners who reported their buzzing was "fixed" by having one or more screws tightened (although those appeared to be on an internal board).

The only I've noticed buzzing is while Fast Forwarding & encountering one of the increasingly popular Mostly White Advertisements: sound is muted during the fast forward & that allows buzzing to come through.
Interestingly, it seems WORSE while in FF than at normal speed...
post #3315 of 9468
Just got my 60" yesterday. I'm very pleased with it. I do notice the buzzing especially while on white or bright images, but it's not a deal breaker. Now, I only wish I could get the iPhone/iPad app to work. It never discovers my television on the network.
FWIW, the bezel and the actual design of the casing is much less offensive at home.
post #3316 of 9468
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Originally Posted by Gibson lp View Post

Have had this set for a little over a month. Used D-nice slides for break in and calibration. My set has TERRIBLE buzz. I was hoping it would go away as it got some hours on it, but it did not. Just had the SS board replaced yesterday and I think its even louder now! Called Panasonic again to set up another repair. Needless to say I'm not very happy to pay 1600$ to be beta testing this TV.

EXACT same thing happened with my 55". I returned it though after I saw the 60" go on sale on amazon. My 60" doesn't buzz nearly as bad.
post #3317 of 9468
Unfortunately it looks like the louvre filter adds vertical lines during panning shots, like the Kuro, only less blotchy and more like evenly spaced vertical faint lines. Took me days to see it, but now I can't not see it. It's the only negative on an otherwise outstanding set. I'm bummed though.
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And it's a stunner! I am coming from a 50" Samsung C550 and this one blows it out of the water in terms of picture quality, I can truly see the difference. I was worried that a 55 incher would be too big but it isn't. Checked out over-the-air and hd satellite. Looks very good. Have yet to watch a blu-ray but I do have a media player with a few flicks on it in HD and standard. Standard looks fine and HD looks great! I can only imagine blu-ray will be awesome. I'm not concerned with 3D, that was the least of my interest in the set. I also like the physical appearance of the set. My one gripe, the hdmi ports - what a silly spot to place them.

Best of all, no buzzing at all.

It is in a family room in the lower level with one very small window. Should do well down there.

It was on sale ($200.00 off) and I got them to give me the 4 year extended for $200.00 more.

Will post some images and calibrate at a future date. Right now the picture quality suits me fine.

Extremely happy with my purchase.
post #3319 of 9468
so close to pulling the trigger on this set, but the one thing that keeps nagging at me is the IR and "hockey flicker"

pretty much videogames and watching sports will be what I do most with my set. I am very disciplined in that, I could hold off playing games on the set during "break in" period if it meant that IR would eventually be reduced. has anyone who has had the set for a while and games a lot noticed a reduction in IR. I'm pretty much resigned to the fact that there will be no avoiding IR with pretty much every video game out there having a static HUD, but nonetheless the thought of IR even if temporary still bothers me. as for hockey/sport flicker, that would probably be a deal breaker for me. i'll probably end up dvr'ing the rest of the stanley cup playoffs, just in case i do end up buying this set i'll have some source material to test it with.
post #3320 of 9468
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Originally Posted by deathrattlehead View Post

Unfortunately it looks like the louvre filter adds vertical lines during panning shots, like the Kuro, only less blotchy and more like evenly spaced vertical faint lines. Took me days to see it, but now I can't not see it. It's the only negative on an otherwise outstanding set. I'm bummed though.

Have this on my GT. So distracting with soccer, golf and baseball. Rears it's ugly head periodically with other sources. Called Panasonic and they are trying to repair by replacing the A- board. Don't think it will be successful as I also think it is the louvre filter. If this is a common trait, football season will not be pleasant to watch with this set.
post #3321 of 9468
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Originally Posted by swillis55 View Post


Have this on my GT. So distracting with soccer, golf and baseball. Rears it's ugly head periodically with other sources. Called Panasonic and they are trying to repair by replacing the A- board. Don't think it will be successful as I also think it is the louvre filter. If this is a common trait, football season will not be pleasant to watch with this set.

What drives me crazy is how this is so rarely mentioned. This is one area where the E8000 crushes the Panny.
post #3322 of 9468
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Originally Posted by swillis55 View Post

Have this on my GT. So distracting with soccer, golf and baseball. Rears it's ugly head periodically with other sources. Called Panasonic and they are trying to repair by replacing the A- board. Don't think it will be successful as I also think it is the louvre filter. If this is a common trait, football season will not be pleasant to watch with this set.

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Originally Posted by deathrattlehead View Post

Unfortunately it looks like the louvre filter adds vertical lines during panning shots, like the Kuro, only less blotchy and more like evenly spaced vertical faint lines. Took me days to see it, but now I can't not see it. It's the only negative on an otherwise outstanding set. I'm bummed though.


Is your tv at eye level?
post #3323 of 9468
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Originally Posted by sheshechic View Post


Is your tv at eye level?

Yes.
post #3324 of 9468
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Originally Posted by swillis55 View Post

Yes.

You shouldn't see any effects of the louvered filter if your not looking from an off angle vertically.

I've not seen any irregularities with pans on my GT50. I hope they get that fixed for you.
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How much does picture quality change from the 55" to 60" to 65" ST50 model displays? If you can answer the same for GT50 that would be appreciated? I would prefer to have the 65", but I would not want to sacrifice a ton of picture quality.

This will go in the basement where I can control the amount of light pretty well...it will be watched at night 80% of the time anyway.
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Originally Posted by benclement11 View Post

How much does picture quality change from the 55" to 60" to 65" ST50 model displays? If you can answer the same for GT50 that would be appreciated? I would prefer to have the 65", but I would not want to sacrifice a ton of picture quality.

This will go in the basement where I can control the amount of light pretty well...it will be watched at night 80% of the time anyway.

The bigger the screen the worse SD looks.

If you only need one mode then you will not realize any increase in pq between the ST & GT models.
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Originally Posted by deathrattlehead View Post


What drives me crazy is how this is so rarely mentioned. This is one area where the E8000 crushes the Panny.

I haven't seen this. I can't see it right noe watching hockey. I wonder if some sets are better than others.
post #3328 of 9468
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Originally Posted by jonnythan View Post

I haven't seen this. I can't see it right noe watching hockey. I wonder if some sets are better than others.

I have to look very hard to see it with hockey and basketball. Obvious with a uniform coloured background like soccer and golf. Also see it with auto racing. Green and grey/darker backgrounds make it clearly visible with my set.
post #3329 of 9468
Hey guys, in anticipation of my ST50 arriving on Monday I wanted to order a couple pairs of 3D glasses. Is $52 the best price for the TY-ER3D4MU right now?
post #3330 of 9468
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Originally Posted by whipit View Post

That goes right in the face of what we were told, flash going the way of the dinosaurs so no need for it. They(euro engineers)seem to think it's needed.

What makes me even angrier, if this is true, is that they could still give it to us too- if they really wanted to.
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