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post #3361 of 9472
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Originally Posted by theben07 View Post

http://youtube.com/results?q=tcp60st...?v=Xv6NgF_MhcA

My set is suffering from this. Don't watch hockey but still wondering is this the source or a real issue with the set?

What mode are you using? Because the video I see in your link only says he seen it in Standard mode with CATS off. Also that it does not happen in Custom mode. What mode is it affecting you on your set?
post #3362 of 9472
Does anyone happen to know what the last couple of software updates have done? After a few months of ownership I am continually impressed by this TV.
post #3363 of 9472
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Originally Posted by deadphish View Post

Does anyone happen to know what the last couple of software updates have done? After a few months of ownership I am continually impressed by this TV.

I was wondering the same thing. I did notice that Netflix no longer flashes when upgrading or decreasing the stream quality. That may have been one correction. Before this update, the screen would go black for a split second when it was adjusting the image quality based off available bandwidth.

The more I watch this set the better it seems to me. The black levels on this set are INSANE!!!
post #3364 of 9472
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Originally Posted by deadphish View Post

Does anyone happen to know what the last couple of software updates have done? After a few months of ownership I am continually impressed by this TV.

Dunno. I tried to find some changelogs online but couldn't come up with anything.
post #3365 of 9472
If interested, this was my Amazon review, please see update after two weeks at the end...

Out of the box, it was decent, maybe even good. I went on high def junkies and followed dnice's 100 hour screen prep (I used the wrong settings for the first 20 hours, but they weren't drastically off from the correct ones), then input his settings and I cannot possibly imaging a more purely perfect picture.

Zero buzzing. I has strongly considered the Samsung until i read all the buzz buzz bad reviews.

For anyone who has brightness/glare concerns, this screen is plenty bright and there is very little glare. I live in an east-facing top floor corner apt which has seven large windows (4 on the east wall, 3 on the south wall) and I have a 20x20 skylight; my apt is very bright. Not an issue whatsoever. The screen does an amazing job of filtering out over-head light. If you walk up to the tv and look down on the screen, it becomes extremely dim, which is exactly what you want from an overhead view. As soon as you walk away, the pic is perfect, especially at or above eye level. Viewing angles are good for all angles (except for looking directly down on the tv from point blank range); very clear.

The sound is very good for a television, but I have a 5.1 set up, and I recommend the same to all. 10x better with a real audio setup.

The remote control is a pos. I don't really care, I'll get a harmony or something.

The picture is so incredibly clear and real. No over-saturated colors, not retina burning over-brightness. It simply looks perfect.

I did about 20 hours of research prior to making this purchase. in the early going it struck me that I might be able to get a huge tv, with one of the best pictures, considerably cheaper than the rest of the competitors. It didn't really make sense until I continued reading and reading. Eventually it just became clear that most people have NO IDEA what they are talking about when it comes to tv tech.

Here's some of the things close friends and family (who claimed to be in the know) had to say (all idiotic, and completely uninformed):

"You can't possibly consider plasma any longer. It's too f@#king heavy and the picture goes bad after a time. LED is the way to go. I've been thru all of them, and LED is plainly the very best, the thinnest, the lightest, etc."

"I would go with OLED. So LCD is a thin display with an LED backlight thus there are no "true blacks" as there's always bleedthrough. For OLED, when the individual OLED is showing black, it is actually switched off completely. The only downside, but the margin is thinning, is the lifespan of OLED monitors. If you're not watching much though, then who cares. It also costs a little bit more. But it's the most cutting edge of the three. Plasma just cold sucks."

"LED--no brainer"

"it is a tv, not a work of art! What are you looking for it to do for you? just buy a cheap one that will fit where you want it to and don't look at it as na investment."

"I looked at all of them this spring, to me the LED was a better value. Go to tigerdirect.com, see if you can find a deal."

"Plasma is the oldest technology and supposedly the srcreen eventually burns out. I have one of the originals and it is still awesome. LCD is newer technology, LED the latest technology. Both have better viewing angles. LED is the brightest picture and I think the best technology now with the widest viewing angle. I don't think you can go wrong with any of them. They are all good. The differences are mostly diminimus."

"Patrick & I bought the hype and purchased a 60in LED. It was great for hockey but made movies look like home videos. It was a deal breaker. Took out back and got a plasma. No looking back."

Do not listen to your idiot friends and family. They are merely parroting the nonsense that they hear other people say. Thank (fake) god I didn't listen to anyone and did my own research. And by the way, the tv is like an inch and a half thick. How that is "so big", when it is sitting on a wall ten feet away, is beyond my comprehension. Who cares if LED's are light and thin, are you carrying your tv to and from work every day?

If you read all these reviews (and comments), and then do a bit more reading on avsforums and hidefjunkies, there is no way any reasonable person can come away with anything but complete certainty that this tv is a screaming deal, and more importantly, one of the best pictures available, at any price point.

Jason


UPDATE:

Two weeks later, I need to alter my review regarding brightness/dimness:

1) Watching Game of thrones using DNice's settings, I found the picture to be a bit too dim, to the point that I had to search for an alternative. I tried Vivid, which for most viewing is way too fake and saturated but for Game of Thrones it seemed pretty good (for SNL it was awful and DNice's settings were perfect). Cinema mode was also better but the colors were not as ...errr colorful. Game mode was also decent.

2) In a brightly lit room on a sunny day, Dnice's setting will be too dim for almost everyone, certainly for me. The other settings worked pretty well though and I'm still very happy overall. I would like to find a new setting which i could overwrite one of the default settings so I could use that in day light hours, and then mostly use DNice's settings in night time hours (with the exception of Game of Thrones or other fantasy based programming, where color saturation actually seems to fit the content, as opposed to the news or SNL where real colors seem more natural to the eye).

3) Got a Harmony One, it is really convenient but I haven't yet figured out how to control the channels (on my direct tv) AND the volume (on my AVR) WITHOUT having to toggle the touch screen from SAT to AVR. I'd love if there were no toggle needed at all. Currently I have to look at the remote, press touch screen buttons rather than just going by touch. If anyone knows how to do this, or if it is even possible, I'd greatly appreciate your input.

I'd love to hear some feedback on this.

Jason
post #3366 of 9472
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Originally Posted by jason370 View Post

3) Got a Harmony One, it is really convenient but I haven't yet figured out how to control the channels (on my direct tv) AND the volume (on my AVR) WITHOUT having to toggle the touch screen from SAT to AVR. I'd love if there were no toggle needed at all. Currently I have to look at the remote, press touch screen buttons rather than just going by touch. If anyone knows how to do this, or if it is even possible, I'd greatly appreciate your input.

I'd love to hear some feedback on this.

Jason

In the remote app, click Customize Buttons for the activity. You can make any button do anything on any device.
post #3367 of 9472
Can anybody please tell me what is the best picture setting for Panasonic Plasma TC-P50ST50.

Thanks Cyadip
post #3368 of 9472
Dude, page one, post #2.
post #3369 of 9472
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Originally Posted by Cyadip View Post

Can anybody please tell me what is the best picture setting for Panasonic Plasma TC-P50ST50.

Thanks Cyadip

in a word - No, as each set differs slightly.
however, you will come pretty close with Dnice's or cnet's settings.

we ran essentially.default cinema for first couple hundred hours - less Motion Smoothing and with reduced sharpness. then did quick & dirty "calibration" with HD 709 disk. still ended up with only minor variations from Cinema.

Will get eldest son down with his fancy color filters & pro calib disk once we get some more hrs on the panel - but it looks very good now!
post #3370 of 9472
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Originally Posted by Dierkdr View Post

in a word - No, as each set differs slightly.
however, you will come pretty close with Dnice's or cnet's settings.

we ran essentially.default cinema for first couple hundred hours - less Motion Smoothing and with reduced sharpness. then did quick & dirty "calibration" with HD 709 disk. still ended up with only minor variations from Cinema.

Will get eldest son down with his fancy color filters & pro calib disk once we get some more hrs on the panel - but it looks very good now!

So standard has more motion smoothing than cinema?
post #3371 of 9472
On very dark screens, if I get right up to the TV I can see some color sparkles. I can't see them from more than a foot or two away.

Is this normal or should I be looking at a new HDMI cable?
post #3372 of 9472
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Originally Posted by jonnythan View Post

On very dark screens, if I get right up to the TV I can see some color sparkles. I can't see them from more than a foot or two away.

Is this normal or should I be looking at a new HDMI cable?

That is normal.
post #3373 of 9472
Can someone advise on what the proper HDMI black level setting to use with the E8000. The CNET settings shows normal but I've read several comments that low is for video sources and this is what should be used. Thanks
post #3374 of 9472
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Originally Posted by jav1 View Post

Can someone advise on what the proper HDMI black level setting to use with the E8000. The CNET settings shows normal but I've read several comments that low is for video sources and this is what should be used. Thanks

Please ignore, wrong fourm! Sorry folks.
post #3375 of 9472
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Originally Posted by jonnythan View Post

On very dark screens, if I get right up to the TV I can see some color sparkles. I can't see them from more than a foot or two away.

Is this normal or should I be looking at a new HDMI cable?

What mode?
post #3376 of 9472
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Originally Posted by Cyadip View Post

Can anybody please tell me what is the best picture setting for Panasonic Plasma TC-P50ST50.

Thanks Cyadip

Custom with D-Nice's settings applied. Custom is the best mode this tv has. You can find his settings at high def dot com but you must register first to find them.
post #3377 of 9472
Does anyone have a link to D-Nice's settings for this TV? I tried searching the thread, the forums, and googling, but haven't been able to find them or the link to the slides. Thanks!
post #3378 of 9472
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Originally Posted by therippa View Post

Does anyone have a link to D-Nice's settings for this TV? I tried searching the thread, the forums, and googling, but haven't been able to find them or the link to the slides. Thanks!

Read the post above yours.
post #3379 of 9472
Just got my TV unboxed and set up. Running the slides per instructions.
Can someone confirm that the contrast should be at 100 (default) on the custom settings? Seems high. I just don't want to go through the prep for nothin. Thanks for being nice to a noob.
post #3380 of 9472
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Originally Posted by Danny Victory View Post

What mode are you using? Because the video I see in your link only says he seen it in Standard mode with CATS off. Also that it does not happen in Custom mode. What mode is it affecting you on your set?

Custom. Standard blows
post #3381 of 9472
Oh and does anybody know if I can run d-nice's slides after putting considerable amount of every day viewing on the tv?? When I bought the tv I didnt believe in slides. At least to make a noticeable difference. Now I'm reading more about it and everyone seems to do it and are claiming it results in better blacks. So can I start the slide break in late?
post #3382 of 9472
Watched the Game of Thrones season finale twice last night on my 65ST50.
Used CNET settings in a dark room. The picture was fantastic but almost (just almost) TOO bright!

This...TV....is....Awesome!!!

post #3383 of 9472
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Originally Posted by slinkyd View Post

Just got my TV unboxed and set up. Running the slides per instructions.
Can someone confirm that the contrast should be at 100 (default) on the custom settings? Seems high. I just don't want to go through the prep for nothin. Thanks for being nice to a noob.

Be sure that it's in Picture Mode:Custom and then make the following changes:

Frame: Off
Photo Effect: Off
Transition Effect: Off
Photo Size: Normal
Burst Playback: Off
Display Interval: Slow
Repeat Playback: On
post #3384 of 9472
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Originally Posted by ludersven View Post

Watched the Game of Thrones season finale twice last night on my 65ST50.
Used CNET settings in a dark room. The picture was fantastic but almost (just almost) TOO bright!

This...TV....is....Awesome!!!


There's room to take both Brightness and Contrast down 4-5 clicks.
post #3385 of 9472
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Originally Posted by theben07 View Post

Oh and does anybody know if I can run d-nice's slides after putting considerable amount of every day viewing on the tv?? When I bought the tv I didnt believe in slides. At least to make a noticeable difference. Now I'm reading more about it and everyone seems to do it and are claiming it results in better blacks. So can I start the slide break in late?

Whose calibration settings will you be using? If you're going to use D-Nice's settings for panel prep, then follow his instructions to the T in order to get close to the same results. If not then don't worry about the slides and use his non-prep settings. Your tv is going to get better as you watch it anyway. I'll bet you'll see it in 24 hours, and 1 week, 2 weeks....
post #3386 of 9472
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Originally Posted by jason370 View Post

For anyone who has brightness/glare concerns, this screen is plenty bright and there is very little glare.
Jason

May be I was expecting too much from the Louvre filter, but I can still see the reflections and dinning room chandelier in the dark scenes. It may have marginally improved over my 9uk plasma, but not much. In totally dark room, the pq is quite a step up from my older 9uk.
post #3387 of 9472
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Originally Posted by sheshechic View Post


Whose calibration settings will you be using? If you're going to use D-Nice's settings for panel prep, then follow his instructions to the T in order to get close to the same results. If not then don't worry about the slides and use his non-prep settings. Your tv is going to get better as you watch it anyway. I'll bet you'll see it in 24 hours, and 1 week, 2 weeks....

Well I would use his settings for the prep but idk if its worth it anymore. And I think his instructions say run slides before anything. That mean its to late?
post #3388 of 9472
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Originally Posted by theben07 View Post

Well I would use his settings for the prep but idk if its worth it anymore. And I think his instructions say run slides before anything. That mean its to late?

Some will tell you it's not too late, D-Nice would tell you that it is.

Why worry about it now, just use his non-prep settings- he provides them (never has before) for people like you.

BTW, I have a GT50, did not run slides, and will have used my set for probably a month before D-Nice's settings will even be available to me. I'm not the least bit concerned either.
post #3389 of 9472
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Originally Posted by sheshechic View Post


Some will tell you it's not too late, D-Nice would tell you that it is.

Why worry about it now, just use his non-prep settings- he provides them (never has before) for people like you.

BTW, I have a GT50, did not run slides, and will have used my set for probably a month before D-Nice's settings will even be available to me. I'm not the least bit concerned either.

"People like me"? What's that supposed to mean????
post #3390 of 9472
I'm not worried but curious IF slides actually make your set age well, is it too late? I'm still not convinced they're any different than regular use. I have a hard time believing that your blacks will measure darker with age ONLY if you run these images. Hope this isnt ignorance on my part.

If I had to guess I'd say we've put a total of 150-200 hours on the set.
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