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post #4321 of 9468
Im running evanglos slides from high def junkies at the moment. I made sure to turn vivid off. Running cinema the brightness and contrast are set to 50 and mid. Also got a copy of disneys wow coming from amazon.
Anything else i do for now? Just going to make a note of hours im running slides and get to 100hours over next 10 days hopefully. Also on network tv is the faint channel logo is this ok? cant see any way around it if watching network tv unless i pan in? dam thing is there for every channel

Update: When slides are running (got volume to 0) i notice that tv has the faintest faintest hum/buzz noise. Tv is silent mostly except on whitish slides were noise if just present. this is normal for a plasma right?
Edited by Alchemist023 - 7/28/12 at 12:56am
post #4322 of 9468
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Originally Posted by Alchemist023 View Post

Im running evanglos slides from high def junkies at the moment. I made sure to turn vivid off. Running cinema the brightness and contrast are set to 50 and mid. Also got a copy of disneys wow coming from amazon.
Anything else i do for now? Just going to make a note of hours im running slides and get to 100hours over next 10 days hopefully. Also on network tv is the faint channel logo is this ok? cant see any way around it if watching network tv unless i pan in? dam thing is there for every channel
Update: When slides are running (got volume to 0) i notice that tv has the faintest faintest hum/buzz noise. Tv is silent mostly except on whitish slides were noise if just present. this is normal for a plasma right?

The buzz is normal, usually you have to get close to hear it at all. Recommended settings for panel prep are at high def junkies(join and look for D-Nice's thread) D uses custom ect. A translucent logo is much better than any other but it's good to mix it up with other material early on in the tv's life.
post #4323 of 9468
Im australian so will d-nice recommended settings still be applicable to me because hes is for north america model. I just using custom with mid/50 brighness and contrast purely for slides and then when disneys wow arrives in a week from america plan to calibrate and continue break in with slides. Sounds good to everyone rolleyes.gif
post #4324 of 9468
After six months of research, I had the 50ST50 delivered from Amazon last week, and I'm enjoying it very much. As a major latecomer to HDTV, all of this is new to me.

The only issue I had with the delivery is that the CEVA guys did not attach the stand in a level manner, and I had to figure out how to adjust that, a bit of an annoyance.

I have no buzzing, and nothing in the way of image retention. I thought about doing the slides but have not bothered.

The picture quality is pretty spectacular. I'm having one issue which is probably just something I'll get used to. There is a certain lack of sharpness compared to some of the LCD sets I've seen in others' houses. My wife noticed it, particularly on certain broadcasts that are in HD but just not as sharp as she's used to. I chanced some of the Custom settings and that seemed to help. I'm connected to an HD DVR from Cablevision with HDMI.

My biggest complaint about HDTV in general is that some scenes on the news, even recent footage, seem to be very very blurry, something I never noticed on my previous TV, a Sony Trinitron WEGA from 2004. In the studio everything is razor sharp, especially the graphics, but then they'll show footage from some news event of the day, and at times it looks quite out of focus. Is that common with HDTV?

I watched the opening ceremonies for the Olympics last night, and it was pretty amazing to see that in HDTV for the first time.

I bought the Disney WOW disk but have not had time to play with it yet. I also got a Panasonic 220 Blu Ray at the same time.

One thing I wish this TV had was a headphone jack. With no analog audio outputs, there really is no easy way to listen privately using my existing stereo headphones. My old high-end Yamaha receiver has no connectors that will work with this TV, so I'm probably going to get a ZVOX base unit. The sound is okay but inferior to what I had with the Sony. Unfortunately, those don't have headphone jack either, which is nuts to me. If anyone has any suggestions I'd love hearing them.

Rhys
post #4325 of 9468
Quote:
Originally Posted by RhysOrd View Post

After six months of research, I had the 50ST50 delivered from Amazon last week, and I'm enjoying it very much. As a major latecomer to HDTV, all of this is new to me.
The only issue I had with the delivery is that the CEVA guys did not attach the stand in a level manner, and I had to figure out how to adjust that, a bit of an annoyance.
I have no buzzing, and nothing in the way of image retention. I thought about doing the slides but have not bothered.
The picture quality is pretty spectacular. I'm having one issue which is probably just something I'll get used to. There is a certain lack of sharpness compared to some of the LCD sets I've seen in others' houses. My wife noticed it, particularly on certain broadcasts that are in HD but just not as sharp as she's used to. I chanced some of the Custom settings and that seemed to help. I'm connected to an HD DVR from Cablevision with HDMI.
My biggest complaint about HDTV in general is that some scenes on the news, even recent footage, seem to be very very blurry, something I never noticed on my previous TV, a Sony Trinitron WEGA from 2004. In the studio everything is razor sharp, especially the graphics, but then they'll show footage from some news event of the day, and at times it looks quite out of focus. Is that common with HDTV?
I watched the opening ceremonies for the Olympics last night, and it was pretty amazing to see that in HDTV for the first time.
I bought the Disney WOW disk but have not had time to play with it yet. I also got a Panasonic 220 Blu Ray at the same time.
One thing I wish this TV had was a headphone jack. With no analog audio outputs, there really is no easy way to listen privately using my existing stereo headphones. My old high-end Yamaha receiver has no connectors that will work with this TV, so I'm probably going to get a ZVOX base unit. The sound is okay but inferior to what I had with the Sony. Unfortunately, those don't have headphone jack either, which is nuts to me. If anyone has any suggestions I'd love hearing them.
Rhys
Have you changed the setting on the cablevision box to 1080P?
post #4326 of 9468
Does dither fade a bit when the panel ages or is that just wishful thinking? The dithering is kind of bothersome to me. I absolutely love the picture but I am always drawn to the dither on those occasional scenes where the color is uniform/bright like on the PS3 XMB. It is also very apparent on the menus. I am sitting about 7-8 feet from the set and can still occasionally see the graininess/dither. This IS what dither is, correct? The grainy look? The picture can just look quite noisy in some areas.

I watch quite a bit of Netflix and I am sure even the X-HD resolution has a bit of compression. This on top of the dither can make the picture look even more grainy. I am still able to notice it in Blu rays such as The Dark Knight.

The LCD in the living room looks crystal clear even up close, but I know it is a different technology. I am sure the overall PQ is nothing compared to this plasma though.
Edited by Frankie1588 - 7/28/12 at 11:21am
post #4327 of 9468
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Originally Posted by RhysOrd View Post

... I had the 50ST50 delivered from Amazon last week, and I'm enjoying it very much..... the CEVA guys did not attach the stand in a level manner, and I had to figure out how to adjust that, a bit of an annoyance.
I have no buzzing, and nothing in the way of image retention. I thought about doing the slides but have not bothered.
.... There is a certain lack of sharpness compared to some of the LCD sets I've seen in others' houses. ,,,, I'm connected to an HD DVR from Cablevision with HDMI.
My biggest complaint about HDTV in general is that some scenes on the news, even recent footage, seem to be very very blurry, something I never noticed on my previous TV, a Sony Trinitron WEGA from 2004. In the studio everything is razor sharp...but then they'll show footage from some news event of the day, and at times it looks quite out of focus. Is that common with HDTV? ...
One thing I wish this TV had was a headphone jack. ... My old high-end Yamaha receiver has no connectors that will work with this TV, ...

Have been a number of complaints about 2012 Panasonics leaning to one side or the other - appears to be a bit of slop in the mounting holes - which, fortunately, can be corrected.

Would take care with Bright Logos and other static images for a few hundred hours: our 60ST50 was prone to Quick Onset IR until somewhere around the 400 hour mark. Per owner comments, this seems to vary from panel to panel (for whatever reason), but better to err on the "safe" side.

How large was your Sony? And what is your viewing distance? The larger panel will more readily "show off" whatever flaws exist in the material you are watching, particularly, of course, if you viewing distance remains the same.

Can you not connect your Cablevision STB Audio Out to your receiver? Our Uverse box offers HDMI & Component (video), but also 2 sets of plain old analog RCA jacks (L, R, Video) & a Toslink (optical) digital audio out. Use the optical to send 5.1 to our Pioneer "HTR" (also an older model that does not know about HDMI), while one set of analog jacks sends stereo audio to the Pan. (We are still using Component Video cables to send video from the STB to the Pan). This makes the "TV" audio available to the headphone jack on the Pioneer.
post #4328 of 9468
Can I go ahead and just calibrate my ST50 right out the box? I mean it's only been on for about 15 hours. I was thinking about calibrating it using the Toy Story 3 Blu-Ray. Also when I played Red Dead Redemption, I noticed that it looked smoother/better on Vivid then it did on Game, what is the difference?

One last thing, how do I even go about to begin calibrating? Just head to custom and turn everything to off and set everything at 50 and start from there?
post #4329 of 9468
Can anyone of you smart electronics guys help me out. I recently got my toshiba hddvd hd a1 out of the closet and hooked it up into my panny htib. I put zodiac in and on the front of the a1 it says 1080i. I changed through resolutions but, it will not go to 1080p. I changed out hdmi cables as well. How do I get 1080p output with my HDA1 player thru a Panasonic SC-BTT770 5.1 HTIB? My display is the Panasonic st60. Any help would be appreciated.
post #4330 of 9468
Quote:
Originally Posted by RhysOrd View Post

After six months of research, I had the 50ST50 delivered from Amazon last week, and I'm enjoying it very much. As a major latecomer to HDTV, all of this is new to me.
The only issue I had with the delivery is that the CEVA guys did not attach the stand in a level manner, and I had to figure out how to adjust that, a bit of an annoyance.
I have no buzzing, and nothing in the way of image retention. I thought about doing the slides but have not bothered.
The picture quality is pretty spectacular. I'm having one issue which is probably just something I'll get used to. There is a certain lack of sharpness compared to some of the LCD sets I've seen in others' houses. My wife noticed it, particularly on certain broadcasts that are in HD but just not as sharp as she's used to. I chanced some of the Custom settings and that seemed to help. I'm connected to an HD DVR from Cablevision with HDMI.
My biggest complaint about HDTV in general is that some scenes on the news, even recent footage, seem to be very very blurry, something I never noticed on my previous TV, a Sony Trinitron WEGA from 2004. In the studio everything is razor sharp, especially the graphics, but then they'll show footage from some news event of the day, and at times it looks quite out of focus. Is that common with HDTV?
I watched the opening ceremonies for the Olympics last night, and it was pretty amazing to see that in HDTV for the first time.
I bought the Disney WOW disk but have not had time to play with it yet. I also got a Panasonic 220 Blu Ray at the same time.
One thing I wish this TV had was a headphone jack. With no analog audio outputs, there really is no easy way to listen privately using my existing stereo headphones. My old high-end Yamaha receiver has no connectors that will work with this TV, so I'm probably going to get a ZVOX base unit. The sound is okay but inferior to what I had with the Sony. Unfortunately, those don't have headphone jack either, which is nuts to me. If anyone has any suggestions I'd love hearing them.
Rhys

The larger set can make lower quality segments like on local news programs (they may only use a lower resolution video camera outside the studio) and also from some overly compressed or lower resolution cable programs, show their defects more.

The only audio output from the TV is the digital audio (optical) port, unfortunately the newer TVs don't provide and older analog audio output via RCA or 3.5mm headphone connectors anymore.
If you are using an external cable box/DVR though, it may have stereo analog RCA jacks that can be used to input to a wireless headphone system or to a headphone amplifier for a wired headphone, just mute the TV when you use that.

There are also digital/optical audio to stereo RCA converters sold, but the lower cost models (~$20)only support stereo PCM digital audio input format, not the dolby digital format that TV channels typically use.
However there is a model (~$80) that supports full dolby digital input and outputs to stereo RCA analog jacks: the GefenTV Digital Audio Decoder, model GTV-DD-2-AA

Some have also posted success in using a wireless bluetooth headset with the 2012 Panasonic TVs since they support bluetooth.
post #4331 of 9468
Just a quick question as I've mentioned this in the ST30 thread, but it's not exactly alive and kickin. XP Does the ST30 have the same new Filter as the ST50 or any filter for that matter? Reason being is because the 'UT50' doesn't have the filter, and people are saying without the added filter the picture looks crisper and clearer which is what i want for gaming. This years 2012 panasonic plasmas have been reported with input lag results that are worse than last years, which is why i'm looking to get a used ST30 50" from Amazon or possibly an S30 IF the ST30 has that filter.
post #4332 of 9468
Thanks very much for the suggestion to run audio out to the receiver from the cable box. That frankly never occurred to me and seems to work fine. I don't seem to have a lot of volume unless I crank it up a bit but certainly have enough for headphones. I guess I can do the same thing with the Blu Ray player into an aux input on the receiver?.

There really is a bit of play on the stand. If it's lying down, you need to measure the distance between the base and the stand on both sides before you tighten the 4 screws. I guess if it is upright, you need a helper and a level. You wouldn't think you should have to, but you do.

Next, I'll order the ZVOX and try to figure out what the heck to do with a 1994 Cambridge Soundworks Center Channel Plus speaker in perfect condition.

Rhys
post #4333 of 9468
Quote:
Originally Posted by KinkyKupcakes View Post

Can I go ahead and just calibrate my ST50 right out the box? I mean it's only been on for about 15 hours. I was thinking about calibrating it using the Toy Story 3 Blu-Ray. Also when I played Red Dead Redemption, I noticed that it looked smoother/better on Vivid then it did on Game, what is the difference?
One last thing, how do I even go about to begin calibrating? Just head to custom and turn everything to off and set everything at 50 and start from there?
You should, so I've read, wait a good 100 to 200 hours before getting an professional (ISF) calibration. Technically using a WOW disc or another brand isn't a true calibration. There are professionals who use the service menu to make corrections and adjustments that can'tt be done with the discs. The discs will get you in the ballpark with basics adjustments. Personally I used DNice's settings for my ST50 right out of the box and tweaked a few things to my own personal taste and haven't touched the display since I bought it in June. Try them out an see what you think. (PS-I didn't run the break in slides. I just used the settings)

Picture
Picture Mode: Custom
Contrast: 76
Brightness: 56
Color: 43
Tint: 0
Sharpness: 0
Color Temp: Warm2
Photo Enhancement: Off
C.A.T.S: Off
Video NR: Off


Pro Settings
Colorspace: Normal

W/B High R: -7
W/B High G: 0
W/B High B: -2
W/B Low R: +12
W/B Low G: 0
W/B Low B: +3

Black Extension: 0
Gamma Adjustment: 2.6
Panel Brightness: Mid
Contour Emphasis: Off
AGC: 0

HDMI Settings
***Leave all settings in this menu at their default***


Advance Picture
Block NR: Off
Mosquito NR: Off
Motion Smoother: Off
Black Level: Light
3:2 PullDown: Auto
post #4334 of 9468
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Originally Posted by WaveBoy View Post

Just a quick question as I've mentioned this in the ST30 thread, but it's not exactly alive and kickin. XP Does the ST30 have the same new Filter as the ST50 or any filter for that matter? Reason being is because the 'UT50' doesn't have the filter, and people are saying without the added filter the picture looks crisper and clearer which is what i want for gaming. This years 2012 panasonic plasmas have been reported with input lag results that are worse than last years, which is why i'm looking to get a used ST30 50" from Amazon or possibly an S30 IF the ST30 has that filter.

Both of my plasmas have a filter, 54G10 and 50ST30. The ST has a little better filter which may restrict the light very slightly more but the difference is hardly noticeable, mainly from above/below. From a steep side angle it's less apparent than above/below. It's the louvered filter that came on the top 3 2011's.
post #4335 of 9468
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Originally Posted by tacos View Post

Can anyone of you smart electronics guys help me out. I recently got my toshiba hddvd hd a1 out of the closet and hooked it up into my panny htib. I put zodiac in and on the front of the a1 it says 1080i. I changed through resolutions but, it will not go to 1080p. I changed out hdmi cables as well. How do I get 1080p output with my HDA1 player thru a Panasonic SC-BTT770 5.1 HTIB? My display is the Panasonic st60. Any help would be appreciated.

Per memory, the earlier HDDVD players were limited to a choice of either 1080i or 720p output.

We have two Toshiba models in the family with that restriction.

Supposedly, later models were able to output 1080p, but I frankly don't know whether or not any actually reached consumers, or in what quantities, as the end of HDDVD came about Very Suddenly! frown.gif
post #4336 of 9468
Quote:
Originally Posted by subavision212 View Post

You should, so I've read, wait a good 100 to 200 hours before getting an professional (ISF) calibration. Technically using a WOW disc or another brand isn't a true calibration. There are professionals who use the service menu to make corrections and adjustments that can'tt be done with the discs. The discs will get you in the ballpark with basics adjustments. Personally I used DNice's settings for my ST50 right out of the box and tweaked a few things to my own personal taste and haven't touched the display since I bought it in June. Try them out an see what you think. (PS-I didn't run the break in slides. I just used the settings)
Picture
Picture Mode: Custom
Contrast: 76
Brightness: 56
Color: 43
Tint: 0
Sharpness: 0
Color Temp: Warm2
Photo Enhancement: Off
C.A.T.S: Off
Video NR: Off
Pro Settings
Colorspace: Normal
W/B High R: -7
W/B High G: 0
W/B High B: -2
W/B Low R: +12
W/B Low G: 0
W/B Low B: +3
Black Extension: 0
Gamma Adjustment: 2.6
Panel Brightness: Mid
Contour Emphasis: Off
AGC: 0
HDMI Settings
***Leave all settings in this menu at their default***
Advance Picture
Block NR: Off
Mosquito NR: Off
Motion Smoother: Off
Black Level: Light
3:2 PullDown: Auto

Those settings won't be close to right if you don't age the panel using his slide prep. I never did either.
post #4337 of 9468
Quote:
Originally Posted by KinkyKupcakes View Post

Can I go ahead and just calibrate my ST50 right out the box? I mean it's only been on for about 15 hours. I was thinking about calibrating it using the Toy Story 3 Blu-Ray. Also when I played Red Dead Redemption, I noticed that it looked smoother/better on Vivid then it did on Game, what is the difference?
One last thing, how do I even go about to begin calibrating? Just head to custom and turn everything to off and set everything at 50 and start from there?

Disney WOW is a great place to get a basic education on calibration and I think you should start there.
post #4338 of 9468
Quote:
Originally Posted by RhysOrd View Post

Thanks very much for the suggestion to run audio out to the receiver from the cable box. That frankly never occurred to me and seems to work fine. I don't seem to have a lot of volume unless I crank it up a bit but certainly have enough for headphones. ....
....
Next, I'll order the ZVOX and try to figure out what the heck to do with a 1994 Cambridge Soundworks Center Channel Plus speaker in perfect condition.
Rhys

Check your STB options: our UVerse boxes (from Motorola) have an adjustable Volume control. Can always hope that your cable box does as well, AND that it is not already All The Way UP!

guess I can do the same thing with the Blu Ray player into an aux input on the receiver?

Yep. We feed digital audio into the Pioneer receiver from HDDVD & Blu-ray players, as well as from the Uverse STB (and have a similar arrangement with our LR set up & another older receiver).

The Pioneer has 3 toslink inputs, plus at least 2 coax digital inputs, and allows you to assign labels to each one - but it pre-dates "HDDVD" and "Blu-ray" so the labels used are "DVD"; "TV"; and (I think...) "Tape" or perhaps "MD/Tape" (this last for the HDDVD player, which is the least often used of those 3 sources).

Although too old for blu-ray, both "HTRs" offer Dobly Digital and DTS decoding - but not, of course, the newer "lossless" versions; however still think overall audio quality is "Excellent." wink.gif

Cambridge made some wonderful (and very competitively priced!) speakers: our LR set up uses a 6 box (5 satellites & a "mid/bass box" for the L&R pair) Cambridge system + a 10-inch Sub - all purchased from No. 1 Son when he upgraded. smile.gif
While it won't play as Loudly (or as Deeply) as our main HT speakers, the Cambridges provide very effective surround positioning & a good "musical" quality at mid volume levels.
post #4339 of 9468
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Originally Posted by whipit View Post

Both of my plasmas have a filter, 54G10 and 50ST30. The ST has a little better filter which may restrict the light very slightly more but the difference is hardly noticeable, mainly from above/below. From a steep side angle it's less apparent than above/below. It's the louvered filter that came on the top 3 2011's.


Hmmm, which means that the S30 i'm guessing doesn't have the filter. Curious how the black levels
match up with the ST30 or even this years X5 for that matter. Amazon has the 50" S30 going for $900 + Shipping in 'like new' condition.
I'm also guessing that the S30 also boasts the same 16ms input lag as the ST30, at least i'm hoping. XP
post #4340 of 9468
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Originally Posted by Dierkdr View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by tacos View Post

Can anyone of you smart electronics guys help me out. I recently got my toshiba hddvd hd a1 out of the closet and hooked it up into my panny htib. I put zodiac in and on the front of the a1 it says 1080i. I changed through resolutions but, it will not go to 1080p. I changed out hdmi cables as well. How do I get 1080p output with my HDA1 player thru a Panasonic SC-BTT770 5.1 HTIB? My display is the Panasonic st60. Any help would be appreciated.

Per memory, the earlier HDDVD players were limited to a choice of either 1080i or 720p output.

We have two Toshiba models in the family with that restriction.

Supposedly, later models were able to output 1080p, but I frankly don't know whether or not any actually reached consumers, or in what quantities, as the end of HDDVD came about Very Suddenly! frown.gif
The Toshiba HD-A30 and players of that same (last) generation will output 1080p.
post #4341 of 9468
Quote:
Originally Posted by WaveBoy View Post

Hmmm, which means that the S30 i'm guessing doesn't have the filter. Curious how the black levels
match up with the ST30 or even this years X5 for that matter. Amazon has the 50" S30 going for $900 + Shipping in 'like new' condition.
I'm also guessing that the S30 also boasts the same 16ms input lag as the ST30, at least i'm hoping. XP

Here's a link to the S30 thread. According to Randy there's no filter. I don't think pana released the FBR fix for the S, they fixed the ST.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1331381/official-panasonic-2011-tc-pxxs30-thread
post #4342 of 9468
Quote:
Originally Posted by mpalmieri1203 View Post

Those settings won't be close to right if you don't age the panel using his slide prep. I never did either.
It's certainly right for my eyes. The PQ on my ST50 looks amazing . I have an ISF calibrated 65PZ850U in my HT and the PQ on both look very close me.
post #4343 of 9468
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Originally Posted by mpalmieri1203 View Post

Those settings won't be close to right if you don't age the panel using his slide prep. I never did either.

Slide prep? And thanks for the settings, I'll give it a shot when I get home.
post #4344 of 9468
Our 65st50 broke on thursday. Basically the screen was cracked. It was an accident. From what I can tell you cannot repair a plasma screen (for less money than new tv) so we are out of luck. We had it for less than two months. I'm really depressed right now.
Edited by ludersven - 7/29/12 at 7:51am
post #4345 of 9468
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Originally Posted by ludersven View Post

Our 65st50 broke on thursday. Basically the screen was cracked. It was an accident. From what I can tell you cannot repair a plasma screen (for less money than new tv) so we are out of luck. We had it for less than two months. I'm really depressed right now.

Do you happen to have renter's insurance:
It covers you for damage or loss due to 16 different types of perils:

Fire, lightning
Windstorm, hail
Explosion
Riots
Damage by aircraft
Damage by vehicle (not your own)
Damage from smoke
Vandalism
Theft
Volcanic eruption
Falling objects
Weight of snow, ice, sleet
Damage from steam-heating/water-heating appliances/systems
Leakage or overflow of water or steam
Freezing of plumbing, heating, air conditioning
Short-circuit damage caused by electrical appliances
post #4346 of 9468
Quote:
Originally Posted by RhysOrd View Post

My biggest complaint about HDTV in general is that some scenes on the news, even recent footage, seem to be very very blurry, something I never noticed on my previous TV, a Sony Trinitron WEGA from 2004. In the studio everything is razor sharp, especially the graphics, but then they'll show footage from some news event of the day, and at times it looks quite out of focus. Is that common with HDTV?

Yes, it's common. When news broadcasts show footage or cut to a reporter on location, the quality will vary and is often SD. This is especially true for local newscasts. A lot of video is shot by "field" reporters who basically rush to a scene (e.g. a burning building) before a news truck can get there. Many of them use their own equipment.
post #4347 of 9468
Quote:
Originally Posted by chiefy3 View Post

Do you happen to have renter's insurance:
It covers you for damage or loss due to 16 different types of perils:
Fire, lightning
Windstorm, hail
Explosion
Riots
Damage by aircraft
Damage by vehicle (not your own)
Damage from smoke
Vandalism
Theft
Volcanic eruption
Falling objects
Weight of snow, ice, sleet
Damage from steam-heating/water-heating appliances/systems
Leakage or overflow of water or steam
Freezing of plumbing, heating, air conditioning
Short-circuit damage caused by electrical appliances

Thank you for you feedback and yes we do have renters insurance but the accident was not related to any of the above, it was a stupid accident that we cannot blame on anyone else then ourselves. However I did just review the AMEX purchase protection benefit on my card and it looks like we have a fair chance of getting up to a $1000 from AMEX since this happened within 90 days of the purchase. I will call them tomorrow and see what can be done. Although that is less than half of what I paid it would still be a great consolation and something I can put towards a new TV. The ST50 is a great series of televisions so I will likely buy another. Thinking a 55ST50 this time, cannot afford to keep buying 65 inch TVs and replace them every two months.mad.gif
post #4348 of 9468
Help! I have IR after 23 days with this TV. I did not run slides, I do not game, I don't leave my TV on the same channel for more than 3 hrs.

I can notice 2 IR spots against light backgrounds, one on the left, one on the right. This on the left is the TNT logo.

Ignore the vertical white line, that is from camera flash.

What should I do? I purchased it from Best Buys and have 7 days to return it.

post #4349 of 9468
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Originally Posted by rubberneck92105 View Post

Help! I have IR after 23 days with this TV. I did not run slides, I do not game, I don't leave my TV on the same channel for more than 3 hrs.
I can notice 2 IR spots against light backgrounds, one on the left, one on the right. This on the left is the TNT logo.
Ignore the vertical white line, that is from camera flash.
What should I do? I purchased it from Best Buys and have 7 days to return it.

Wow thats hard for me to make out but I see it here. Just watch some full screen content and it should wash away. As your set gets older this should happen less frequently.
post #4350 of 9468
I went to BestBuy last night to try and decide what size ST I want.
While watching a 55" model for 20 minutes, I noticed a line of IR across it.
It was from the demo loop video that they were using.
This has me a little concerned, but I think I'm going to go for one anyway.
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