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post #5071 of 9971
I'm using these settings that i got from digital trends, only difference is i adjusted my gamma to 2.4
If you don't mind try these and let me know what you think?

Recommended picture settings (for dark rooms)

Picture Mode: Custom
Contrast: +88
Brightness: +55
Color: +46
Tint: 0
Sharpness: 0
Color Temp: Warm 2
Color mgmt: grayed out
C.A.T.S: Off
Video NR: Medium
Pro settings: default settings
Aspect adjustments
Screen Format: Full
HD size: Size 2
H size: grayed out
Zoom adjustments: grayed out
Advanced Picture
3D Y/C filter: grayed out
Color Matrix: grayed out
Block NR: grayed out
Mosquito NR: Off
Motion smoother: Off
Black level: Light
3:3 pulldown: On
24p Direct in: 60Hz

Read more: http://www.digitaltrends.com/tv-reviews/panasonic-tc-p60st50-review/#ixzz23j86X72z
post #5072 of 9971
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Originally Posted by toolcube View Post

My settings are as follows:
Picture Mode: Custom
Contrast: 75
Brightness: 55
Color: 45
Sharpness: 50
Color Temp: Normal
C.A.T.S: Off
Video NR: Strong
Pro Settings...all default except for:
Black Extension: 0
Gamma Adjustment: 2.2
Panel Brightness: Mid
Contour Emphasis: Off
AGC: 0
Advanced
Block NR: Off
Mosquito NR: Off
Motion Smoother: Off
I've tried numerous different settings and as mentioned before, the only thing that kind of hides the noise a bit better is by knocking contrast down. If I do that, I'd have to increase brightness in order for the picture to be watchable, which washes out the color and makes dithering noise more visible. As for your question re sparkles, yes, that's exactly what I'm seeing...it's not dithering noise. Again, this is only when watching analog cable...HDMI (PS3 for watching DVD and bluray) looks perfect and clean. And again, my cable line isn't the issue since my other TVs produce a picture so clean over analog that it looks digital. Perhaps I'm worrying too much over something that will eventually be phased out soon anyway (analog transmission)...it's just a shame since a lot of my TV-watching happens to be analog cable right now. Apart from this, the TV is spectacular.

It's a combination of a few things. The signal isn't great so it won't look great on the TV. I also believe that this isn't one of the ST50s strengths.

It is great for 1080p content though!
post #5073 of 9971
It has been reported on the GT50 thread that it has blurry or soft images when displaying 720P content. Can someone comment if this problem occurs with the ST50?
post #5074 of 9971
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Originally Posted by mnrbradley View Post

I wanted a new 55" tv for our living room to replace my old Samsung 46" LCD. I have been agonizing over the decision and doing a ton of research. I heard such great things about the ST50 except for the warnings about it being dim in a bright room. Our living room has 4 windows close to it and a sliding glass door, so I was concerned. Also I was concerned about burn-in (kids watch stuff and play lots of games). Lastly, I was lazy (and cheap) and didn't want to have to buy 3D glasses.
So, I bought a Panasonic ET5 for $950. I did a lot of adjustments on it and watched a lot of different content over a week and I just really didn't like the LED tv. In a lot of ways, it seemed inferior even to my 3 year old LCD. So, I bought the ST50 and it was delivered this morning. All I can say is 'WOW'!!! I am not a huge videophile or anything, but I hated the light blooming on the LED and the really bad blacks. Watching dark scenes made it really hard to see what was happening. I have a lot more playing to do and after 100-200 hours, I am going to get professional calibration (I can get it for free from Best Buy being a silver rewards zone member). But the colors are so much better and more-defined. The blacks are just incredible! And it's plenty bright for our living room - my concerns proved to be unfounded. I LOVE it!
By the way, Sears has the compatible Samsung SSG-4100GB 3D glasses for $12.79 each. You can avoid shipping by doing an in-store pickup.
So, that's my two cents. I know I'm not a professional or a connoisseur, but I like a good picture and the difference between the Panasonic LED 55" ET5 and the Panasonic Plasma 55" ST50 is night and day!

Just wanted to say thanks for the heads up! I ordered a couple pair and my wife will be picking them up at her lunch break (right by her work). I'd not bothered buying any of the more expensive pairs, and have yet to actually try any 3D on my new TV.
post #5075 of 9971
Has there been any kind of resloution to the adobe flash problem as far as being able to update the flash player to watch video on the internet?
post #5076 of 9971
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Originally Posted by pdhdtv View Post

It has been reported on the GT50 thread that it has blurry or soft images when displaying 720P content. Can someone comment if this problem occurs with the ST50?

Could be the source not sure but the sports heavy stations here are native 720p and they look great using OTA as for STB slight difference do to compression.
post #5077 of 9971
ST50 owners who watch Sports - do you change settings?
post #5078 of 9971
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Originally Posted by RicFlair View Post

ST50 owners who watch Sports - do you change settings?

I adjusted mine for the BR,STB and OTA after that I just enjoyed it and yes I watch all kinds of sports including Golf which I care nothing about but the course looks to awesome not to look at.
post #5079 of 9971
Picking up my 50ST50 in a couple hours, and will run D-nice slides to break it in for the first 100hrs before I use his calibration settings. I'm leaving town for the weekend, and plan on leaving the TV on for the entire weekend running the slides, is this a good idea? The TV will have very minimal supervision during the next 4 days.

Any precautions I should take? Would leaving my AC on in the room to keep the tv from overheating be a wise idea, or won’t really matter?
post #5080 of 9971
I wouldn't do it unsupervised.
post #5081 of 9971
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Originally Posted by whoisyuri View Post

Picking up my 50ST50 in a couple hours, and will run D-nice slides to break it in for the first 100hrs before I use his calibration settings. I'm leaving town for the weekend, and plan on leaving the TV on for the entire weekend running the slides, is this a good idea? The TV will have very minimal supervision during the next 4 days.
Any precautions I should take? Would leaving my AC on in the room to keep the tv from overheating be a wise idea, or won’t really matter?

I never leave town with any electronics other than my security lights and the fridge running and if I where to be gone long enough the fridge may get cleaned out and unplugged.
post #5082 of 9971
Are there any comparable plasmas to this set that are sub-1k dollars?
post #5083 of 9971
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Originally Posted by Red Nightmare View Post

Are there any comparable plasmas to this set that are sub-1k dollars?

This is as good as it gets for picture/price ratio but there are several brands that dip below this price just don't expect the same picture.
post #5084 of 9971
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Originally Posted by whoisyuri View Post

Picking up my 50ST50 in a couple hours, and will run D-nice slides to break it in for the first 100hrs before I use his calibration settings. I'm leaving town for the weekend, and plan on leaving the TV on for the entire weekend running the slides, is this a good idea? The TV will have very minimal supervision during the next 4 days.
Any precautions I should take? Would leaving my AC on in the room to keep the tv from overheating be a wise idea, or won’t really matter?

i would not leave it alone. If it gets stuck on one picture it will be sitting there for days.
post #5085 of 9971
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Originally Posted by RicFlair View Post

ST50 owners who watch Sports - do you change settings?

Sports often means guests & brighter lighting: Will generally switch to Custom Mode - usually run Cinema, but Custom is tuned a bit brighter - and often turn the "Motion Smoother" ON, at low setting. [SOE eek.gif - but doesn't bother me with sports, and seems like most people who are accustomed to LCDs like picture better with it On...]
post #5086 of 9971
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Originally Posted by Red Nightmare View Post

Are there any comparable plasmas to this set that are sub-1k dollars?

What Size?

Love our 60ST50, but the Samsung E6500 also has great reviews. Also, the UT50 might be a bargain as long as you can control room lighting & are willing to give up a couple of perks.

As a dark horse: the LG PA6500/6550 has been running around $1k - $1,100 in a 60" size.
The LG might not have the overall PQ of the Pan or Samsung, but it is a Handsome set, with lots of features, and (the last time I looked....) its owners seem quite happy.
post #5087 of 9971
Hey guys. I have a quick question.

My replacement 55ST50 came in today and for some reason the TV is tilted forward while on the stand. It is not completely upright and level. Is it possible to adjust this somehow? I know I can adjust it if one side hangs lower than the other (had to do this on the 50" and this one as well), but I don't see how I can get the TV to tilt back just a tad.

I will post the results after the weekend regarding posterization. I am unable to use it as I will be away until Monday.

Thanks guys!
post #5088 of 9971
Hooked up the 65" to the net and gave neil a whirl. Much better pq at 1080p than my Sony bdp-s370 which could only do NF at 720p. But about 20 minutes into a show I started seeing the "black flash" phenomenon that people in the panny bd player threads noticed. I hope it doesn't happen too much as its distracting as hell.
post #5089 of 9971
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Originally Posted by Dave Mack View Post

Hooked up the 65" to the net and gave neil a whirl. Much better pq at 1080p than my Sony bdp-s370 which could only do NF at 720p. But about 20 minutes into a show I started seeing the "black flash" phenomenon that people in the panny bd player threads noticed. I hope it doesn't happen too much as its distracting as hell.

That could be the Netflix servers starting to hit capacity and nothing to do with your tv.
post #5090 of 9971
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Originally Posted by whoisyuri View Post

Picking up my 50ST50 in a couple hours, and will run D-nice slides to break it in for the first 100hrs before I use his calibration settings. I'm leaving town for the weekend, and plan on leaving the TV on for the entire weekend running the slides, is this a good idea? The TV will have very minimal supervision during the next 4 days.
Any precautions I should take? Would leaving my AC on in the room to keep the tv from overheating be a wise idea, or won’t really matter?
I found the 50 to run small - I have a Panny G25 50 ' and it's a bigger TV by far, taller & wider - not screen wise - cabinet wise . I bet a 55' would work better for you ...
post #5091 of 9971
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Originally Posted by Frankie1588 View Post

Hey guys. I have a quick question.
My replacement 55ST50 came in today and for some reason the TV is tilted forward while on the stand. It is not completely upright and level. Is it possible to adjust this somehow? I know I can adjust it if one side hangs lower than the other (had to do this on the 50" and this one as well), but I don't see how I can get the TV to tilt back just a tad.
I will post the results after the weekend regarding posterization. I am unable to use it as I will be away until Monday.

Thanks guys!
No adjustment that I can see make sure you have everything seated correctly and the screws are snug.
post #5092 of 9971
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frankie1588 View Post

Hey guys. I have a quick question.
My replacement 55ST50 came in today and for some reason the TV is tilted forward while on the stand. It is not completely upright and level. Is it possible to adjust this somehow? I know I can adjust it if one side hangs lower than the other (had to do this on the 50" and this one as well), but I don't see how I can get the TV to tilt back just a tad.
I will post the results after the weekend regarding posterization. I am unable to use it as I will be away until Monday.
Thanks guys!

Put a shim of some sort (like a quarter under each corner) under the front of the bottom of the stand and call it a day! biggrin.gif
post #5093 of 9971
I finally took delivery of a 55 ST50 after much going back and forth ST/GT. The panel is settling in nicely with a combination of content and the Evangelos slides. We watched quite a bit of OTA olympics at 1080i and the picture was stunning. Color saturation on this panel is obscene with no light bleed in the corners like on some LED sets. Many people worry about brightness and I must say veiwing in the store does not do justice to this panel; this thing has more then enough light output. I might be in the minority here but does anyone else watch OTA in Standard mode? While I am accumulating hours on this panel I am not cranking on brightness and contrast so much so that when we switch to Cinema the picture is too bright.

I need a new blu-ray so in the interim I ran my DVD through the set and watched Shooter at a whooping 480i. I did notce some SOE going on but that what I get for experimenting with older technology. The panel really loves 1080, but I have noticed both FOX and ABC push a 720p signal and brightness, clarity, and color punch are still abound. I see no IR and hear no buzz just a really clean natural picture.

I will try to post some pictures but I don't think I have the camera skills of mpalmieri1203 - his look great !
post #5094 of 9971
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Originally Posted by Super 8 View Post

I finally took delivery of a 55 ST50 after much going back and forth ST/GT. The panel is settling in nicely with a combination of content and the Evangelos slides. We watched quite a bit of OTA olympics at 1080i and the picture was stunning. Color saturation on this panel is obscene with no light bleed in the corners like on some LED sets. Many people worry about brightness and I must say veiwing in the store does not do justice to this panel; this thing has more then enough light output. I might be in the minority here but does anyone else watch OTA in Standard mode? While I am accumulating hours on this panel I am not cranking on brightness and contrast so much so that when we switch to Cinema the picture is too bright.
I need a new blu-ray so in the interim I ran my DVD through the set and watched Shooter at a whooping 480i. I did notce some SOE going on but that what I get for experimenting with older technology. The panel really loves 1080, but I have noticed both FOX and ABC push a 720p signal and brightness, clarity, and color punch are still abound. I see no IR and hear no buzz just a really clean natural picture.
I will try to post some pictures but I don't think I have the camera skills of mpalmieri1203 - his look great !

I watch a lot of OTA but in custom mode and used the color bars on one of the stations to adj with S&M test disc for the rest of the settings.
post #5095 of 9971
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Originally Posted by Frankie1588 View Post

....My replacement 55ST50 came in today and for some reason the TV is tilted forward while on the stand. It is not completely upright and level. Is it possible to adjust this somehow?....!

Off the wall perhaps, but our 60ST50 came with a metal "insert" for the stand that was not packed with the balance of the stand components.

We almost missed it.... eek.gif
post #5096 of 9971
I wanted to buy the 2012 Panasonic 3D glasses TY-ER3D4MU but they are medium correct? Do they have a large model available? What do I do for large?

Thanks.
post #5097 of 9971
For those fellow new owners who plan on breaking in the set by just watching it, here are my Cinema mode "good enough" settings after about 6 hours of break in (custom mode settings to come when near 200 hours). I used a combination of the i1 Display 2 meter, HCFR and Digital Video Essentials (with blue filter) on my 65-inch display.

For a near pitch black room (~95% total darkness). These settings give me 119 cd/m2 and 34 ftL (I don't go over 120 cd/m2 to match my computer monitors for photoshop).

Contrast: 82
Brightness: 46 (any higher than 49 introduced colored dither amongst blacks on my set)
Color: 50
Tint: -1
Sharpness: 26
Color temp: Warm 2

All noise reduction off

RGB set to nonstandard (PS3 to full) - just experimenting, calibrated the same as Limited RGB

60hz with motion smoother set to off. (48hz + motion smoother to medium looked great on Avatar, not so much on live action).
post #5098 of 9971
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Originally Posted by Otto Pylot View Post

The Ferrari? Cool.
Get the Enzo and post your impressions!
post #5099 of 9971
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Originally Posted by toolcube View Post

Lol, nicely put. I realize that analog is a thing of the past, but I'm not up for grabbing a digital/HD cable box and dishing out more $$$ to my cable provider right now smile.gif

You could always get an indoor antenna and watch your locals in HD which will blow away any cable providers HD do to the difference in compression and its FREE except for the oost of the antenna and if you like what you see get serious about it and get an outdoor antenna UHF/VHF somewhere around a five foot boom.
post #5100 of 9971
I have a question that I searched and couldn't find the answer to: Netflix on the TV won't pass audio on the HDMI ARC cable back to the receiver (well, none of the Viera Cast apps will). Is there something I am missing in the settings or is that just the way it is?
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