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post #5221 of 9471
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Originally Posted by Frankie1588 View Post

I'm assuming that it will look relatively close to 1080p (since 1080p has no posterization that I can see). Regardless, I will post some pics of 720p content before/after the DVDO Edge.

only fitting at this point in time.

Thank you sir.
post #5222 of 9471
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Yes. Probably the only significant upgrade other than "Airplay" which I have no use for over the 671. But not worth the extra $200 being asked for the 673 in my opinion. From what I understand the 673 doesnt have Pandora, Rhapsody, Napster or Sirius built in either like the 671. My cable box will convert everything to 1080i and just about everything else is already 1080p anyway (bluray,Netflix,etc.).

I agree. I'm not really using the upconvert aspects of the 673 anyway. But I got it for the price of the 671, so it was pretty much a no-brainer for me. I don't really care about not being able to get Pandora on it.
post #5223 of 9471
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Originally Posted by KinkyKupcakes View Post

This! I would love to see pictures of how DVDO Edge works, I did some research after my initial post and it seems like a great product, I plan on purchasing it sometime next week. Could you post a picture of how cable looks upscaled to 1080p?

I definitely will do that when it arrives.
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Originally Posted by sonyfan View Post

Is that a ebay item, if not why so cheep?

I found it on Craigslist. I couldn't believe he was selling it so cheap. He said it works just fine and shipped it in the original box and all. He recently purchased an AVR capable of upscaling so he didn't really need it anymore.
post #5224 of 9471
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Originally Posted by Frankie1588 View Post

I definitely will do that when it arrives.
I found it on Craigslist. I couldn't believe he was selling it so cheap. He said it works just fine and shipped it in the original box and all. He recently purchased an AVR capable of upscaling so he didn't really need it anymore.

oh no Craigslist. I hope you used paypal.
post #5225 of 9471
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Originally Posted by sonyfan View Post

oh no Craigslist. I hope you used paypal.

I did. I talked with the guy quite a bit. He seemed pretty legitimate. He also gave me a tracking number. Hopefully it updates sometime later today. The buyer is pretty well protected on PayPal anyways so I am not too worried about it.
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Hi guys! I have bought this beauty ST50 at the beggining of the summer. I really like it, but I just realised that I have some "Burn-In" from playing Battlefield 3.

My question is, if I run D-Nice color slides for lets say.. a few hours if not a day, will it go away?

Thanks for your time,
Max
post #5228 of 9471
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Originally Posted by Frankie1588 View Post

I did. I talked with the guy quite a bit. He seemed pretty legitimate. He also gave me a tracking number. Hopefully it updates sometime later today. The buyer is pretty well protected on PayPal anyways so I am not too worried about it.

yea your safe.
ebay and paypal completely side with the buyer so your in good shape.
Did you know ebay Sellers can't leave negative feedback?
post #5229 of 9471
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Originally Posted by ComputerTech0903 View Post

I wanted to buy the 2012 Panasonic 3D glasses TY-ER3D4MU but they are medium correct? Do they have a large model available? What do I do for large?
Thanks.

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Originally Posted by ComputerTech0903 View Post

Anyone?

Yes they are medium. No they don't come in Large.

When in the Air Force my hat was size large and the Panasonic glasses fit me comfortably. I'd suggest buying an pair from someone with a liberal return policy. If they are too tight then try the Samsungs, which are also much cheaper. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007K9P7H0/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00
post #5230 of 9471
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Originally Posted by sheshechic View Post

Yes they are medium. No they don't come in Large.
When in the Air Force my hat was size large and the Panasonic glasses fit me comfortably. I'd suggest buying an pair from someone with a liberal return policy. If they are too tight then try the Samsungs, which are also much cheaper. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007K9P7H0/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00

Thank you for your service smile.gif
post #5231 of 9471
Wow. Thanks Chunon.
post #5232 of 9471
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Originally Posted by Maxlaplante View Post

Hi guys! I have bought this beauty ST50 at the beggining of the summer. I really like it, but I just realised that I have some "Burn-In" from playing Battlefield 3.
My question is, if I run D-Nice color slides for lets say.. a few hours if not a day, will it go away?
Thanks for your time,
Max

Genuine Burn-in is "permanent," and so, NO, a few hours of slides presumably would do no good.

Odds are better that what you have is Long-Duration IR, which will fade with OTHER usage of the panel - that is, usage that does NOT display the same static image that caused the IR in the first place!

If you Search about, you will find various approaches to dealing with IR - not counting Ignoring It, or throwing the panel out the window (literally or figuratively).... eek.gif

Simply watching Full-Screen NO-Static-Images content will eventually cause the IR to fade. For a quicker approach, you can try the built-in white scroll bar (but watch the time limit on it!) - but, frankly, if the white bar gets rid of the IR within its 15 (20 - ?) minute time limit, your panel does not have a very severe case of IR.

Could also try a "pixel flipping" utility (Disney WOW perhaps - ?); try running the slides, but in a random, short-duration mix; or try some full-screen animation material (we usually Zoom these to the max - keeps logos off screens, but also there generally tends to be more movement in the center screen areas than around the edges).

Alas, simply running WHATEVER for a few hours, and then returning to the Same Static Image that originally caused the problem - leaving THAT up for some hours - is likely to leave you with the same IR. It might take a fair amount of time WITHOUT that same Static Image for the pixel to "recover."
IF you are "lucky" - as reports vary from owner to owner, so it is hard to know what else to attribute IR differences to - your panel will become more IR "resistant" as it ages.

Can you change the Location, Color, or Brightness of the offending image?
post #5233 of 9471
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Originally Posted by Frankie1588 View Post

I definitely will do that when it arrives.
I found it on Craigslist. I couldn't believe he was selling it so cheap. He said it works just fine and shipped it in the original box and all. He recently purchased an AVR capable of upscaling so he didn't really need it anymore.

I recently found one on Ebay for $150 to add to my 60ST50. Probably going to be several deals available when more and more people upgrade theirs AVR's. I don't have any 720P sources so I didn't by it for that but I have seen subtle improvements in my Fios Cable and Pioneer 59avi DVD players. The DVDO seems to handle motion better than the Panasonic overall. Plus it is nice to have those 6 HDMI inputs available.
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I have a 60ST50 that I just got last week. I tried using the settings most people use (Warm 2, gamma 2.6, etc.) and I did not like the picture at all. The picture looked too dark and like it almost had a brown filter over it. This could possibly be due to the fact that the TV is in a sunny living room. I find that normal color temp and gamma at 2.2 looks a lot better in my room. Could anyone recommend settings (brightness, contrast, color, etc.) for the normal color temp and gamma I use? Thanks!
post #5235 of 9471
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Originally Posted by Dierkdr View Post

Genuine Burn-in is "permanent," and so, NO, a few hours of slides presumably would do no good.
Odds are better that what you have is Long-Duration IR, which will fade with OTHER usage of the panel - that is, usage that does NOT display the same static image that caused the IR in the first place!
If you Search about, you will find various approaches to dealing with IR - not counting Ignoring It, or throwing the panel out the window (literally or figuratively).... eek.gif
Simply watching Full-Screen NO-Static-Images content will eventually cause the IR to fade. For a quicker approach, you can try the built-in white scroll bar (but watch the time limit on it!) - but, frankly, if the white bar gets rid of the IR within its 15 (20 - ?) minute time limit, your panel does not have a very severe case of IR.
Could also try a "pixel flipping" utility (Disney WOW perhaps - ?); try running the slides, but in a random, short-duration mix; or try some full-screen animation material (we usually Zoom these to the max - keeps logos off screens, but also there generally tends to be more movement in the center screen areas than around the edges).
Alas, simply running WHATEVER for a few hours, and then returning to the Same Static Image that originally caused the problem - leaving THAT up for some hours - is likely to leave you with the same IR. It might take a fair amount of time WITHOUT that same Static Image for the pixel to "recover."
IF you are "lucky" - as reports vary from owner to owner, so it is hard to know what else to attribute IR differences to - your panel will become more IR "resistant" as it ages.
Can you change the Location, Color, or Brightness of the offending image?

Thanks for your prompt reply Sir.

I did run the built-in white/gray scroll bar, for a good 15-20 minutes but that didnt do anything. I will try to do the same, but for longer.

Unfortunately, I cannot remove/change/move that offending image. I have attached the said image. There are 3 red circle, those are the offending image. I dont really have IR with the right and left one.. but in the circle in the middle, the smaller circle.. with the green written, this is my problem. hud.png 1036k .png file
post #5236 of 9471
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Originally Posted by rwinston View Post

I agree. I'm not really using the upconvert aspects of the 673 anyway. But I got it for the price of the 671, so it was pretty much a no-brainer for me. I don't really care about not being able to get Pandora on it.
I would love to know how you got the 673 for less than $400 when its going for $600. Do you mind?
post #5237 of 9471
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Originally Posted by Maxlaplante View Post

Unfortunately, I cannot remove/change/move that offending image. I have attached the said image. There are 3 red circle, those are the offending image. I dont really have IR with the right and left one.. but in the circle in the middle, the smaller circle.. with the green written, this is my problem. hud.png 1036k .png file
What is the image that you attached? Did you draw the red circles? Do you use your display for any thing other than games?

How about a picture of an image from a movie so that there aren't any fixed images on the screen. That might give a better idea of what you're seeing.
post #5238 of 9471
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

I would love to know how you got the 673 for less than $400 when its going for $600. Do you mind?

Check out the Yamaha RX-V673 thread in the receivers forum, starting at post #70:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1408245/the-official-yamaha-rx-v673-thread-7-2-channel-network-avr/60

The deal still seems to be going on, according to people who have recently tried it.
post #5239 of 9471
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

What is the image that you attached? Did you draw the red circles? Do you use your display for any thing other than games?
How about a picture of an image from a movie so that there aren't any fixed images on the screen. That might give a better idea of what you're seeing.

I did draw the red circles. No, I use my display for tv and blurays and I play a 2hours a day.

Sure, I can take a picture of that said Image Retention when I get home tonight.

Thanks,
Max
post #5240 of 9471
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Originally Posted by rwinston View Post

Check out the Yamaha RX-V673 thread in the receivers forum, starting at post #70:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1408245/the-official-yamaha-rx-v673-thread-7-2-channel-network-avr/60
The deal still seems to be going on, according to people who have recently tried it.
First off I want to apologize to everyone for turning this into a Yamaha forum but I had to respond and will leave it at this. Thank you very much for the info rwinston. I am still within my return period for the 671 from Amazon. If I had known about this originally I would almost certainly done it. I have had bad luck with EE though. I would almost certainly have to pay for return shipping if there were any problems and they would charge me to ship another, That has been my experience with them and I said that I would never deal with them again after paying $80 for shipping to find out that I did not like a pair of speakers. That being said it is no longer the same price by any means. $429 for 671 now but I paid $370. Also $30 for shipping brings it up to $460. That brings it up a full $90 more and from a company that I know if there are any problems will not be nearly as forgiving as Amazon. Then I have to take my chances on getting the 671 instead of the 673 for $90 more and have to return a perfectly good 671. Way too complicated for me. No offense at all but the 673 isnt even much better. There is really very little difference. That is why I got the 671 to begin with. I also really like to be able to get to Pandora and Rhapsody by just turning on the receiver instead of having to turn on the tv or bluray player and have to wait for it to boot up and, then load the app and so on. Thank you again though. I felt like I should atleast let you know what I thought since you were nice enough to clue me in to what would ordinarily be a great deal. I love my Yamaha and hope you feel the same. I also love my 50ST60. lol
post #5241 of 9471
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

First off I want to apologize to everyone for turning this into a Yamaha forum but I had to respond and will leave it at this. Thank you very much for the info rwinston. I am still within my return period for the 671 from Amazon. If I had known about this originally I would almost certainly done it. I have had bad luck with EE though. I would almost certainly have to pay for return shipping if there were any problems and they would charge me to ship another, That has been my experience with them and I said that I would never deal with them again after paying $80 for shipping to find out that I did not like a pair of speakers. That being said it is no longer the same price by any means. $429 for 671 now but I paid $370. Also $30 for shipping brings it up to $460. That brings it up a full $90 more and from a company that I know if there are any problems will not be nearly as forgiving as Amazon. Then I have to take my chances on getting the 671 instead of the 673 for $90 more and have to return a perfectly good 671. Way too complicated for me. No offense at all but the 673 isnt even much better. There is really very little difference. That is why I got the 671 to begin with. I also really like to be able to get to Pandora and Rhapsody by just turning on the receiver instead of having to turn on the tv or bluray player and have to wait for it to boot up and, then load the app and so on. Thank you again though. I felt like I should atleast let you know what I thought since you were nice enough to clue me in to what would ordinarily be a great deal. I love my Yamaha and hope you feel the same. I also love my 50ST60. lol

No problem, to each his own.

You might want to post something about your experience in the 673 thread, sounds like useful information. The price was definitely cheaper two weeks ago when I ordered mine.

So far I am liking my 673 a lot and it pairs well with the ST50. Nice to finally be able to have surround/HD sound with 3D (my old Onkyo AVR wasn't 3D compatible). Thankfully, no problems yet warranting a potential return. From what you say, sounds like dealing with EE could be an issue.

Rumors in the thread are that they are going to add Pandora to the 673 with a firmware update soon.

I feel this discussion is tangentially useful to ST50 owners since we were discussing upconverting processors. But yes, back to the ST50 proper...
post #5242 of 9471
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Originally Posted by rwinston View Post

No problem, to each his own.
You might want to post something about your experience in the 673 thread, sounds like useful information. The price was definitely cheaper two weeks ago when I ordered mine.
So far I am liking my 673 a lot and it pairs well with the ST50. Nice to finally be able to have surround/HD sound with 3D (my old Onkyo AVR wasn't 3D compatible). Thankfully, no problems yet warranting a potential return. From what you say, sounds like dealing with EE could be an issue.
Rumors in the thread are that they are going to add Pandora to the 673 with a firmware update soon.
I feel this discussion is tangentially useful to ST50 owners since we were discussing upconverting processors. But yes, back to the ST50 proper...

14 day return window, pay return shipping and restocking fee.

Edit: Same terms apply even if purchased from EE through Amazon.
Edited by sheshechic - 8/22/12 at 6:54pm
post #5243 of 9471
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I wanted to buy the 2012 Panasonic 3D glasses TY-ER3D4MU but they are medium correct? Do they have a large model available? What do I do for large? Why don't they have large available?
Thanks.


Panasonic doesn't know whether viewers with large heads enjoy 3D or not. They don't care.

Quite frankly, it's a market they can do without.
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Can someone please give me a little help? I'd really appreciate it!

Are the 2012 panasonic medium glasses big?

And does someone know the best 2D and 3D picture settings? It'd really help me out. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by sheshechic View Post

14 day return window, pay return shipping and restocking fee.
Edit: Same terms apply even if purchased from EE through Amazon.
Thats why it cost me $80 to find out I did not a pair of speakers. $40 for me to get them and $40 to return. They only waived the restocking fee because I called them and that cost is basically up to them. That is all free from Amazon. I often will pay a little more for that kind of security particularly for electronics or something that is likely to have issues.
post #5246 of 9471
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Originally Posted by ComputerTech0903 View Post

Can someone please give me a little help? I'd really appreciate it!
Are the 2012 panasonic medium glasses big?
And does someone know the best 2D and 3D picture settings? It'd really help me out. Thanks.

I already answered your question. FYI, the hats that the Air Force issue are men's caps.

Exactly how big is your head anyway?
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Thats why it cost me $80 to find out I did not a pair of speakers. $40 for me to get them and $40 to return. They only waived the restocking fee because I called them and that cost is basically up to them. That is all free from Amazon. I often will pay a little more for that kind of security particularly for electronics or something that is likely to have issues.

Yeah, dealing with them pushed me closer to Amazon and I was already very close before. Amazon has changed the way I shop. However, Newegg was just great too, I had to return a subwoofer. I called and they made it just as easy as Amazon does.
post #5248 of 9471
I have noticed a lot of mentions regarding the DVDO Edge and other upscaling devices with some going as far as considering buying them on e-bay due to their high initial cost. Home Theatre Mag just posted their review of the new Darbee Darblet and it is glowing. It is by far the best device on the market and if you can find it as it seems to be sold out everywhere- it currently only costs $269. Owners on the GT and VT forums seem to be pretty happy with them with more on the way. I seem to recall someone here in the past considering purchasing one and if that person or anyone else has been using them on their ST50s please share your thoughts most importantly regarding de-interlacing 1080i and 720p tv shows which tend to be soft on this years Panny plasma models across the line. Thanks!


http://www.hometheater.com/content/darbee-visual-presence-darblet-video-enhancer
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Hi guys! Just read the last 10 pages and was wondering if the upscaling PS3 issue is visible on a 42" screen (Panasonic TX-P42ST50). Is it really an issue that could make Philips 42PFL7606H a better choice over st50 for PS3 gaming? (sorry for mentioning philips in a panasonic thread, just don't know where I could fing anyone who may have experience with both TV's)
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Originally Posted by sheshechic View Post

Yeah, dealing with them pushed me closer to Amazon and I was already very close before. Amazon has changed the way I shop. However, Newegg was just great too, I had to return a subwoofer. I called and they made it just as easy as Amazon does.
You staying up all night fine tuning that Denon? How come I saw you on that 673 forum? You starting your own electronics store?
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