Official Panasonic ST50 Series Discussion Thread [No Street Price Talk] - Page 187

Hi All,

UK 65ST50 owner here, having run the D-Nice panel pre slides for 100 hours and then adding the post prep picture adjustments, I have been very pleased with this TV.

However, last night; and as you mentioned above in relation to the upscaling of content, I was watching "The Fifth Element" on a HD broadcast and the picture looked average at best, clearyl wasn't HD quality - even 576p.

So I hooked up my WDTV and hard drive and played my, mkv version which was 1080p via my AV Receiver (Pioneer LX55) - massive, massive improvement and clearly full HD being displayed, so I agree - I don't think the internal scaler on the TV is that good to be honest.

Don't get me wrong, more than happy with this TV, it was just an observation - we don't normally watch many movies broadcast by networks - mainly blurays via WDTV or BLuray player thru AV Receiver.

Regards

Once a source has been compressed (network broadcasts) there is no way to put the detail back into the image.

I all,

Whats your opinion about this :

Panasonic 65ST50
or
Panasonic 55VT50
(the price is almost the same here in Europe)

The distance between me and tv its 15 feets, and i watch tv only at night.

Thanks for all

I would normally go with the VT50, but at 15ft you are going to need all the extra inches you can get. I would go with the 65ST50 in your situation.

For me, I would want to be 8' to 10' from a 55" display.

Anyone?

Beuller?

One last attempt...

Everybody says that 65" its toomush but i dont thinks so..I never see a ST at live only a VT, ST is better than any Led Tv today (not Elite) ?
The diference of price between 65ST50 and 65VT50 it worth?
Thanks and sorry about my english

Thanks for that, and I remember us having a discussion in another thread (I think it was another one).

However I have also read that the 60" ST50 (or maybe it was the 65") was re-tested with a different type of test, and there was more lag than initially reported with the 50" ST50.

If it was only a couple hundred bucks, I would probably just buy it, but since it is going to be around $1500 I would like to test it out personally before I spend that kind of cash on it.

I'm just not sure if that is going to be possible hah.

65ST50 no question. When both have been calibrated, the differences between the two as far as PQ is minimal to most people, and the EUR ST50 is even closer to the VT50 than the NA version because the EUR ST50 has more picture controls than the NA version. At 15' away, 65" is more appropriate. If you don't plan on getting your set calibrated, consider the 60 or 65GT50 as well for the THX modes and a little better out of the box performance.
Edited by rahzel - 9/10/12 at 12:37pm

I have my PS3 hooked to the 60" ST50. I can not give you a real number as far as lag goes, but it's not noticeable to me. That being said, i've only played Madden 13 on it, but i've done so without any issue.

My post was completely overlooked :-/

Maybe no one was qualified to deal with your post. Try one issue at a time, and be as clear as possible about exact details regarding your settings.

Cnet calibrated their set to HD standards (rec.709 / D65). Game modes are always far from accurate and they generally reduce processing but do things to make games look better, like increase sharpness, setting the color temperature cooler and making the picture brighter. If you find Cnet's settings too dark, try lowering the gamma slider and increase the Contrast or Brightness controls. Lowering the gamma will increase mid-tone brightness or make shadow detail easier to see. Increasing the Contrast will increase the brighter parts or make white detail brighter. Increasing the Brightness control will make black detail lighter and easier to see. See how far you get with the gamma slider and Contrast control first, then see if tweaking the Brightness control is needed. Increasing the Brightness control will actually increase your black levels.

Also, believe it or not, Sharpness can affect the brightness as well. Setting Sharpness too high will add artificial sharpness or edge enhancement, which adds white halos around edges to make them appear sharper. White halos around every edge on screen will make the overall picture appear brighter. On the 2012 Pannys, I wouldn't set Sharpness any higher than 15-25. I personally have mine at 0, which is the neutral point.

If you're playing BF3 on console, make sure your levels are matching too. If they're not matched, you'll end up clipping black detail and/or have a washed out picture depending on your configuration. On PS3, set RGB range to Limited or Standard on 360. If you have your PS3 set to RGB Full or 360 set to Expanded, set your Panasonic's HDMI/DVI RGB Range to Nonstandard in the HDMI settings of the Picture menu.

Also note that changing the brightness/contrast/gamma will affect how Cnet's settings work on your set because Cnet calibrated with them set to 60/82/2.6 respectively. Changing them too much will affect the 'calibration'.
Edited by rahzel - 9/10/12 at 3:57pm

Not looking good. You should probably just buy something else.

It's definitely too dark. Download the AVS test disc, burn it to a DVD and run the 'by eye' calibration to set your black levels (brightness) and white levels (contrast) specifically. 

New to plasma, replaced an 2004 Mitsubishi rear projection with a p65vt30 in may
We converted our dining room to a movie/play room last month so I wanted another panny

Ended up buying the p55st50

Setup
65vt30. Brighter room, sitting about 13.5 ft away
55st50. Dark room, sitting about 11 ft away

Both calibrated from settings I found on this site

Verdict: althought the st50 has some advantages in setup, i still feel it gives a better picture
Blacks look darker, whites look brighter
Skin tone is more realistic looking on the st50, vt30 has a more red-ish tint

Love me both, no issues as of yet
Surprisingly, both provide good sound so I'm not sure I'm going to get a stereo system

I'm tempted to try to sell the vt30 when the 65vt50 drops on price, but it will probably be too expensive of a jump for not that much more in picture

I was referring only to my GT50.

Hi there I just bought a european 50STW50 Plasma.... now I search for the official ST50 or even STW50 thread, don't we have one?
Is there anybody of you who directly compared the 50ST50 or other new Pana vs the new Samsung Plasmas?

I am just curious as to what other TV's you have gamed on before.

So those test patterns used to work OK with your unit. That is interesting. I tested them on my unit for the first time when it was over one month old and over 400 hours of usage,

It would be intersting to hear others testing the same resolution test patterns with their units to see if this is a common issue.

Is anyone privy to Panasonic's rationale for making it almost impossible to find any ST but the 55ST50? Already on BB.Com, the only Model available is the 55. When I purchased my 60GT50 there in July, I could have gotten a 60ST50. However, the 60GT50 was only $100 and came with a free 3D BDP to boot.
I know some online and other B&M's have stock of the other sizes, but these TV's have only been out for a few months.

I am just surprised with the ST Series selling like gangbusters that they would limit availability like this. I wonder if they were not expecting the ST's to have done as well as they have done.

I just went to best buy dot com and they have the ST and GT available in all 4 sizes. The only ST50 they ever stocked is the 55" the rest they have to order. Not trying to argue. It's the BB buyers that see the need and as a result we get limited stock in the stores.

I was just on BB.com and I see the the 60" advertised. May be it varies be the area you live in. Here in the midwest BB, Sears, and Comp USA all have sets larger than 55".

But also remember Panasonic was an olympic sponser, as such they had teams circling the US at all types of different locations, i.e malls, train stations etc.. to push their new 2012 panels, On top of that the set did get very good reveiws putting behind issues with the 2011 line.
Edited by Super 8 - 9/11/12 at 10:46am

Old samsung dlp 61a650 and the newest sharp aquos

This is the ST50 thread. You just purchased the ST50 correct? Tyipcally, you would do research and compare before purchase. I would say since this is an ST50 thread owners here did compare the Panny to Samsung before pulling the trigger - I know I did. Samsung makes a solid plasma but after research and looking at both under the same lighting conditions I went the Panasonic.

If you are having buyers remorse just sit back and enjoy your new set you made a fine purchase.

That is quite strange as I just entered in the Model Number and it does not show up. A few weeks ago it did, but the other models were all Special Order Only. The 60ST50 was the first to show Sold Out Online. I would be quite surprised if it is somehow regionally based as Florida is so populous.

Actually. If I just enter ST50 all 4 show up, but the 50, 60. and 65 all show up Sold Out Online and Unavailable in all Stores.

Best Buy had the 55" on display here in Baton Rouge. I had to order the 60". It took about a week to come in.

did you notice much lag on your old samsung DLP?

Sorry, I didn't go that far into the system. It seems like they are turning into a produce on demand company.