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post #5641 of 9471
mine wasnt calibrated and it was a Vizio, but the only time i heard buzzing is if the tv was on mute. and i barely heard it then so it was a non-issue. i will be getting the ST 55 inch so im sure it should have any buzzing at all for the price.....
post #5642 of 9471
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Originally Posted by BillyBoyBlue View Post

Total baloney. I've had a high end plasma for almost 8 years NEVER any buzz of any kind ever regardless what was on screen. There are several "technical" reasons why any tv might buzz and do other weird stuff, but I assure you buzzing or odd sounds IF you set is operated within specs and has been properly calibrated is not normal. Period. However if you buy "b" brands or no name tv's you get what you pay for. They're cost a lot less for a reason... inferior parts, worse design, etc..
Also as a side note don't cheap out by buying cheap connecting cables. It always stuck me as knee slapping stupid that people don't think anything of spending two, three thousand or more on a tv, then nickel and dime on HDMI and optical cables. I'm not suggesting to buy that one brand that hypes the crap out of their products that really arent any better, but don't think a 6 foot long HDMI cable that costs $5-9 bucks is the same as one that cost's $25-35 or so.
Interesting. What kind of tv do you have?
Edited by Bond 007 - 9/14/12 at 4:57pm
post #5643 of 9471
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Originally Posted by BillyBoyBlue View Post

Total baloney. I've had a high end plasma for almost 8 years NEVER any buzz of any kind ever regardless what was on screen. There are several "technical" reasons why any tv might buzz and do other weird stuff, but I assure you buzzing or odd sounds IF you set is operated within specs and has been properly calibrated is not normal. Period. However if you buy "b" brands or no name tv's you get what you pay for. They're cost a lot less for a reason... inferior parts, worse design, etc..
Also as a side note don't cheap out by buying cheap connecting cables. It always stuck me as knee slapping stupid that people don't think anything of spending two, three thousand or more on a tv, then nickel and dime on HDMI and optical cables. I'm not suggesting to buy that one brand that hypes the crap out of their products that really arent any better, but don't think a 6 foot long HDMI cable that costs $5-9 bucks is the same as one that cost's $25-35 or so.
Every plasma buzzes to a degree, whether you hear it or not is another topic.

As for HDMI cables, all I'm gonna say is, keep wasting your money. You seem to be firm on the idea that it actually makes a difference.
post #5644 of 9471
I don't agree here. I would be willing to bet that even your plasma had a somewhat audible buzz if someone with the right kind of hearing was close enough to it with a white screen and no volume coming from the tv. People are susceptable to different frequencies. I have heard buzz from every plasma i have ever owned (3 total). Nobody else in my family or any other people who have been in my home says they hear it. That is not to say that it is loud or obvious in any kind of normal scenario (ie from regular viewng distance, with volume and with mixed screen content), but to say that plasmas should not buzz at all is likely not the best advice. Excessive buzzing, like my first plasma (phillips pos), which you can hear from more than a few feet away with low volume and a white screen is another thing altogether. My new gt50 is the quietest I have owned, but if I try, I can hear it when I stand very close with the volume muted on some of the brighter slides. As for the hdmi cable comment, I have to ask... Do you notice a picture quality difference w/ better cables? Or are you speaking about longevity and overall susceptability to intereference? If you mean the better cables might last longer and not lose signal at longer lengths, then I agree. If you mean that it provides better picture quality, I am going to have to say this is bad advice. Digital works or it doesn't. If you have no sparkles or pixelation in the picture, then the picture quality will be the same on a $150 cable as it is in a decent $7 monoprice cable. Same for optical cables etc. This is not a matter of opinion and preference, it a fact based on the nature of the technology.
post #5645 of 9471
Looks like Rahzel beat me to it....
post #5646 of 9471
Question from a new owner here: Do I have to get some kind of adapter from Panasonic to plug my PC into my 60ST50? My old panny pz85 had issues with running an input from a desktop computer. Something about current or voltage or something. Panasonic sent me an adapter to sit between my DVI -> HDMI cable and the tv's HDMI input - that resolved the issue. Is that the case now as well?

thanks!
post #5647 of 9471
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Originally Posted by rahzel View Post

Every plasma buzzes to a degree, whether you hear it or not is another topic.
As for HDMI cables, all I'm gonna say is, keep wasting your money. You seem to be firm on the idea that it actually makes a difference.
I decided not to bother with the HDMI comment but I am curious as to what kind of "high end" tv he has.
Edited by Bond 007 - 9/14/12 at 5:06pm
post #5648 of 9471
I read a thread somewhere that said audible buzzing was relieved when the back cover was tightened down and/or the transformers were inspected for a "Foam" pad between it and the back cover. I believe that the person posting had discovered this after calling to have a Technician come out to take a look at it. I will try and find the link, I don't think it was AVS.

If your tv is audibly buzzing loud enough that it can be heard from your normal watching position, I would certainly call a tech at the least if not return the tv all together.

I just ordered a 60ST50 and have had a 65VT50 for a few months now and it has zero audible buzzing regardless of content or how close I put my ear. If it did, or if my ST does it will go back or have a tech look at it.

I work too hard for my money to not enjoy my purchases. I love my VT50 and like wine it just seems to continue getting better.

Just my opinion and I will look for the link.
post #5649 of 9471
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Originally Posted by BillyBoyBlue View Post

Total baloney.
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don't cheap out by buying cheap connecting cables
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knee slapping stupid
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then nickel and dime on HDMI and optical cables.
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don't think a 6 foot long HDMI cable that costs $5-9 bucks is the same as one that cost's $25-35

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post #5650 of 9471
I just received my 60" yesterday replacing a Samsung EF6000 lcd that had terrible viewing angles. Man the picture on this is incredible. I've read this thread and the d-nice thread over at the place we do not speak of before I bought the TV and have a couple questions.

Now I have absolutely no scientific or professional knowledge when I make this statement but to me there seems some issues with the break in slides. You have red, blue, green, and grays cycling over and over. Red and blue are primary colors but green isn't. What is the significance of these colors? I would think you would have yellow as a color. If if you have green what happened to orange, purple or the rest of colors? It seems when you are trying to avoid static images the last thing you would want to do is put solid colors up and have the TV break in with those solid colors and forget the rest. The other thing I noticed is most of the people that complain of IR follow that with "I ran the break in slides". To me it seems if it is sensitive to static images which is just a solid color on the same pixel for an extended period of time the last thing I would want to do is show the same 3 colors over and over leaving out the rest. I'm sure someone who knows way more than me will chime in and tell me why I'm wrong but I think I'm going to just watch out for logos and bars for the first month.

Also, I see the CNET and d-nice calibrations have lower contrast than I got when I calibrated. I used the AVS HD slides and I was not getting any clipping or pinkish hues when I cranked the brightness all the way up. Anyone else experience this? Since this TV doesn't have a backlight is the contrast kind of the backlight so you lower that to lower the brightness? This is my first plasma so not sure about that.
post #5651 of 9471
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Originally Posted by SightSeeker1 View Post

I just received my 60" yesterday replacing a Samsung EF6000 lcd that had terrible viewing angles. Man the picture on this is incredible. I've read this thread and the d-nice thread over at the place we do not speak of before I bought the TV and have a couple questions.

Now I have absolutely no scientific or professional knowledge when I make this statement but to me there seems some issues with the break in slides. You have red, blue, green, and grays cycling over and over. Red and blue are primary colors but green isn't. What is the significance of these colors? I would think you would have yellow as a color. If if you have green what happened to orange, purple or the rest of colors? It seems when you are trying to avoid static images the last thing you would want to do is put solid colors up and have the TV break in with those solid colors and forget the rest. The other thing I noticed is most of the people that complain of IR follow that with "I ran the break in slides". To me it seems if it is sensitive to static images which is just a solid color on the same pixel for an extended period of time the last thing I would want to do is show the same 3 colors over and over leaving out the rest. I'm sure someone who knows way more than me will chime in and tell me why I'm wrong but I think I'm going to just watch out for logos and bars for the first month.
 

 

All of the colours that can be displayed on your screen derive from RGB (Red, Green and Blue). That is how the set works. Each pixel has a tiny little 'light' which is either red, green or blue. How they are illuminated creates all of the other colours. 

 

This Wiki article goes into detail on it if you're interested:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RGB_color_model

 

Green is, in fact, a primary colour. It is an additive primary colour - used when different colours are added together to form other colours, as in a projector for example, or a plasma or LCD or CRT screen. You’re thinking of the artist's primaries of red, yellow and blue. There are various sets of primary colours - RGB, CMYK (in printing), RYB (paints etc). All that is meant by 'primary colours' is a set of colours from which all (or at least a great range) other colours can be derived.

 

Edit: I gave you a lot of information but am not sure I answered your question :) The slides are Red, Green and Blue because they are the only colours your screen can display. All the others are created from those three - so there is no 'yellow' sub-pixel in your screen. Yellow is created simply from the RGB set of little 'lights' in each pixel as described above. In fact, you might query why there is a white slide in the 'break-in' set. White is just all of RGB combines so arguably there's no purpose served by the white slides. The objective of the slides is to age each pixel by the same amount during the early life (200 hours typically) of the set. Pixels age very rapidly in the first 200 hours and then settle down so by using each pixel identically, they will all age at the same rate. This is important for image retention because what IR really is is a pixel or set of pixels that has aged at a different rate to the ones surrounding it. So if you keep a bright logo on screen, in one place, permanently, you can see that that area of the screen will have pixels that age faster than an area that has no such logo.

 

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Also, I see the CNET and d-nice calibrations have lower contrast than I got when I calibrated. I used the AVS HD slides and I was not getting any clipping or pinkish hues when I cranked the brightness all the way up. Anyone else experience this? Since this TV doesn't have a backlight is the contrast kind of the backlight so you lower that to lower the brightness? This is my first plasma so not sure about that.

 

Yes - the brightness and contrast controls are misnamed. Brightness = black level and Contrast = white level. On the ST50 series you won't see any clipping when you advance contrast to the max. That's fairly common on modern-day sets. To set the brightness you can use instruments and software to achieve a given Foot-Lambert rating or use a test disc and set it by eye. Set it so that whites look white and the overall brightness in your room lighting conditions doesn't strain your eyes. In a dark room you obviously need less brightness than in a lit room for example.


Edited by kbarnes701 - 9/15/12 at 7:10am
post #5652 of 9471
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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

All of the colours that can be displayed on your screen derive from RGB (Red, Green and Blue). That is how the set works. Each pixel has a tiny little 'light' which is either red, green or blue. How they are illuminated creates all of the other colours. 

This Wiki article goes into detail on it if you're interested:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RGB_color_model

Green is, in fact, a primary colour. It is an additive primary colour - used when different colours are added together to form other colours, as in a projector for example, or a plasma or LCD or CRT screen. You’re thinking of the artist's primaries of red, yellow and blue. There are various sets of primary colours - RGB, CMYK (in printing), RYB (paints etc). All that is meant by 'primary colours' is a set of colours from which all (or at least a great range) other colours can be derived.


Yes - the brightness and contrast controls are misnamed. Brightness = black level and Contrast = white level. On the ST50 series you won't see any clipping when you advance contrast to the max. That's fairly common on modern-day sets. To set the brightness you can use instruments and software to achieve a given Foot-Lambert rating or use a test disc and set it by eye. Set it so that whites look white and the overall brightness in your room lighting conditions doesn't strain your eyes. In a dark room you obviously need less brightness than in a lit room for example.

Sorry I meant to say contrast instead of brightness when I said I cranked it all the way up and didn't see any clipping. I see the panel brightness option in pro settings. Does this adjust contrast and brightness or is it kind of like backlight? It seems like I should have contrast on 100 and then use that to dim the screen if a low lit room.
post #5653 of 9471
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Originally Posted by SightSeeker1 View Post

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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

All of the colours that can be displayed on your screen derive from RGB (Red, Green and Blue). That is how the set works. Each pixel has a tiny little 'light' which is either red, green or blue. How they are illuminated creates all of the other colours. 

This Wiki article goes into detail on it if you're interested:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RGB_color_model

Green is, in fact, a primary colour. It is an additive primary colour - used when different colours are added together to form other colours, as in a projector for example, or a plasma or LCD or CRT screen. You’re thinking of the artist's primaries of red, yellow and blue. There are various sets of primary colours - RGB, CMYK (in printing), RYB (paints etc). All that is meant by 'primary colours' is a set of colours from which all (or at least a great range) other colours can be derived.


Yes - the brightness and contrast controls are misnamed. Brightness = black level and Contrast = white level. On the ST50 series you won't see any clipping when you advance contrast to the max. That's fairly common on modern-day sets. To set the brightness you can use instruments and software to achieve a given Foot-Lambert rating or use a test disc and set it by eye. Set it so that whites look white and the overall brightness in your room lighting conditions doesn't strain your eyes. In a dark room you obviously need less brightness than in a lit room for example.

Sorry I meant to say contrast instead of brightness when I said I cranked it all the way up and didn't see any clipping. I see the panel brightness option in pro settings. Does this adjust contrast and brightness or is it kind of like backlight? It seems like I should have contrast on 100 and then use that to dim the screen if a low lit room.

 

Yes - contrast is your 'brightness' control. Just remember that Brightness = black level and Contrast = white level and it will all click into place. If you adjust 'Brightness" you adjust the black levels in your picture and the white level (theoretically at least) is not affected. If you adjust "Contrast" you adjust the white level and the black in the picture remains unaffected. So in reality in order to change what most people would call the 'brightness' of their picture, you need to adjust the 'contrast' control. In the ST50 there is no harm done to the picture by having contrast set at 100 - but the picture may be unbearably bright although it still won't be clipping the whites. Adjust the contrast to the level that looks good and is comfortable to your eyes - as I said earlier, you will need less 'brightness' in a dark room than in a lit room. 

 

It would help a lot if manufacturers stopped using these silly names for the controls and simply renamed Brightness to Black Level and Contrast to White Level - names that actually describe what the controls do.

 

BTW, my comments about clipping the whites apply to EU sets - they do differ slightly to the North American equivalents, but i haven’t heard of any differences with regard to clipping white levels. 

post #5654 of 9471
Hi guys anyone able to answer my questions?
Strange to mee is Last year d-nice used a bunch of colour slides with difference in intensity. This Year only Full red, Blue and Green and a Lot of grey slides. Why???

Please again answer my questions
post #5655 of 9471
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Originally Posted by Machtmensch View Post

Hi guys anyone able to answer my questions?
Strange to mee is Last year d-nice used a bunch of colour slides with difference in intensity. This Year only Full red, Blue and Green and a Lot of grey slides. Why???
Please again answer my questions

He said in the thread over on the other forum he got sick of PMs about the slides so he just did the primary ones. Sounds like last years would be better.
post #5656 of 9471
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post #5657 of 9471
I just recently purchased a 50ST50 about 5 days ago. Should I change the gamma levels to 2.6? I've been running it on the out of box home viewing settings (standard with contrast and brightness below 50). I keep it on the normal color setting, even though the warm settings appear to give a more accurate color. I don't know much about plasma tv's. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I should set up my new TV? Is it necessary to wait 200 hours before attempting to calibrate? Thanks-
post #5658 of 9471
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Originally Posted by Jester826 View Post

I just recently purchased a 50ST50 about 5 days ago. Should I change the gamma levels to 2.6? I've been running it on the out of box home viewing settings (standard with contrast and brightness below 50). I keep it on the normal color setting, even though the warm settings appear to give a more accurate color. I don't know much about plasma tv's. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I should set up my new TV? Is it necessary to wait 200 hours before attempting to calibrate? Thanks-
I use 2.6 for everything except Uverse which is set on 2.4.
I suggest getting a setup disc and go from there.
Try and find color bars on OTA, cable/sat channels to set your bascs.
post #5659 of 9471
Should I do that now or wait until 200 hours of running HD content? Also, is it best to turn sharpness down to zero? Thanks Oztech!
post #5660 of 9471
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Originally Posted by Jester826 View Post

Should I do that now or wait until 200 hours of running HD content? Also, is it best to turn sharpness down to zero? Thanks Oztech!
I adjusted mine right out of the box and have been enjoying it since, bought 4th of July.
Using the Spears & Munsil and a borrowed WOW disc my sharpness needed to be set at 20.
post #5661 of 9471
Thanks again. I was also curious if it's ok to watch sports or other shows with logos in the corner? Turning the gamma up to 2.4 for Xfinity def improved the picture quality.
post #5662 of 9471
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Originally Posted by Jester826 View Post

Thanks again. I was also curious if it's ok to watch sports or other shows with logos in the corner? Turning the gamma up to 2.4 for Xfinity def improved the picture quality.
I watch a lot of sports and have no issues a slight IR at times but goes away almost immediately
post #5663 of 9471
Anybody figure out what to do about the DLNA streamed files being stretched out to fill the screen? Definitely annoying...

Is there a fix for this?
post #5664 of 9471
I just got (its still sitting in the box bottom) a Panasonic Viera TCP65ST50. I plugged it in just to take a peak, will write a detailed review once hooked up and calibrated in a few days. This is going to replace a Panasonic TH50PHD7UY that's about 7 years old and still has a excellent picture. Going to donate this to a homeless shelter for Vets hope they pick it up tomorrow as promised. ;-)

OK. just because I was curious abou those reporting "hum" or noises comiing from their Plasma sets I dug into my tool chest and dusted off my sound level meter. I set my new set, still in the box to show a fairly bright DVD, then muted the sound. In a dead still room with no background noise, about 10 feet from the tv my sound meter registered 4-5 db in the lowest range. I placed the meter a foot in front of the plasma, no change. I went to the back of the set (as viewed from back) moved the sound meter around the lower right bottom corner where it appear the power supply is, it jumped to the 7-8 dB if moved to with in six inches of the back of the set. For point of reference If you're within 50 feet or so of a jet aircraft reving its engines, that's about 170-180 dB. A rock band about 120 dB. Normal conversation between 50-65 dB, normal background noise in a "quite" room is 35 dB or less. A whisper around 25-30 dB, so as you can see I was in a very quite room, (family room with 24 foot ceilings on an angle, was home alone, and the set noise was way below what is considered quite. So if you can hear "hum" or other noises coming from your tv FROM THE FRONT while watching it, it isn't because its a plasma and that's normal. I'd first look at the cables.
post #5665 of 9471
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Originally Posted by rahzel View Post

Every plasma buzzes to a degree, whether you hear it or not is another topic.
As for HDMI cables, all I'm gonna say is, keep wasting your money. You seem to be firm on the idea that it actually makes a difference.

Being the "new kid" here I don't want to argue with everybody that thinks they know better (too funny) BUT I know what I'm talking about having had countless tv's since (gulp) the early 50's, everything from old CRT, to projection, LCD/LED, plasma and even buidling my own from scratch, I got a pretty good working knowledge. Yes sonny, the quality of HDMI cables DO make a difference. I'm not just saying that, actually hands-on experience. One key difference in cheap cables and the higher priced ones is shielding. You hear several people complaining about hum, other noises, less than expected picture quality, that often, but not always can be traced to inferior cables. I have bought Monster, other premium brands and got burned, in they like anything else can fail or can be defective right out of the box. But if you think a $5 HDMI cable that's a little thicker than lead from a mechnical pencil works as well as a cable that's almost as thick as your little finger and has multiple layers of shielding is the same, I have a bridge in New York on sale this week only I can let you have dirt cheap. Drop me an email if interested. ;-)
post #5666 of 9471
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Originally Posted by Jester826 View Post

I just recently purchased a 50ST50 about 5 days ago. Should I change the gamma levels to 2.6? I've been running it on the out of box home viewing settings (standard with contrast and brightness below 50). I keep it on the normal color setting, even though the warm settings appear to give a more accurate color. I don't know much about plasma tv's. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I should set up my new TV? Is it necessary to wait 200 hours before attempting to calibrate? Thanks-

There's a wealth of technical infomration on Gamma, color space and related topics on the web. In short without getting into the why, set Gamma to 2.2 and after that do your other setting tweaking. A 2.6 setting is going to be too "hot" and any attempt to calibrate everything else with that high a Gamma setting almost always will result in inferior results. I would do a rough calibration now, then repeat after 200 hours or so. Sets, especially when brand new do have some drift. Also whenever you do any calibration FIRST let the set warmup and just run so it warms up. The reason, which might not be so obvious to those not that into how electronics work is quite simple. All electronic devices have resistors and capacitors with stated values. The better the quality of the tv the tighter the tolerence. Regardless, the rating of said parts change, be it just a tiny bit after they have current passing through them for awhile. So before tinkering with any setting always first least the set warm up so the parts stablize and reach operating tempature.
post #5667 of 9471
Anybody noticed the bluetooth discovery is fully turned on these ST50 series, and can't be swiched off.
The bluetooth discovery is always on, when you are watching the the TV, and only can be switched off (after little delay in standby mode)
I would feel this iwill be a series security/privacy concern, becuase anybody from outside the street can able do the blutooth scan, and they will know when and howlong you are going to watch the TV.

A little pc software something like blutooth scanner, can able to track any kind of bluetooth device (whey they connected, duration etc).

Moreover, the tv will accept bluetooth connections from any bluetooth devices, this is a very bad.
contacted customer service, and been told this is normal?

Require software update to allow user to
-switch off the bluetooth
-change the default blutooth tv name to user picked one.
-hide the tv (options to enable/disable the blutooth discovery),
post #5668 of 9471
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Originally Posted by eus50 View Post

Anybody noticed the bluetooth discovery is fully turned on these ST50 series, and can't be swiched off.
The bluetooth discovery is always on, when you are watching the the TV, and only can be switched off (after little delay in standby mode)
I would feel this iwill be a series security/privacy concern, becuase anybody from outside the street can able do the blutooth scan, and they will know when and howlong you are going to watch the TV.
A little pc software something like blutooth scanner, can able to track any kind of bluetooth device (whey they connected, duration etc).
Moreover, the tv will accept bluetooth connections from any bluetooth devices, this is a very bad.
contacted customer service, and been told this is normal?
Require software update to allow user to
-switch off the bluetooth
-change the default blutooth tv name to user picked one.
-hide the tv (options to enable/disable the blutooth discovery),
I don't believe the range will reach that far past my living room/den and the connection breaks on the glasses.
post #5669 of 9471
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Originally Posted by eus50 View Post

Anybody noticed the bluetooth discovery is fully turned on these ST50 series, and can't be swiched off.
The bluetooth discovery is always on, when you are watching the the TV, and only can be switched off (after little delay in standby mode)
I would feel this iwill be a series security/privacy concern, becuase anybody from outside the street can able do the blutooth scan, and they will know when and howlong you are going to watch the TV.
A little pc software something like blutooth scanner, can able to track any kind of bluetooth device (whey they connected, duration etc).
Moreover, the tv will accept bluetooth connections from any bluetooth devices, this is a very bad.
contacted customer service, and been told this is normal?
Require software update to allow user to
-switch off the bluetooth
-change the default blutooth tv name to user picked one.
-hide the tv (options to enable/disable the blutooth discovery),

Bluetooth range is usually < 10m. Why do you need to change the bluetooth id or hide it? There's no data to steal on the TV, is there?
post #5670 of 9471
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Originally Posted by BillyBoyBlue View Post

Wow, the ignortnce level here is HIGH. I'm going to have to educate those that think they know what they're talking about. Your comments suggest an ingorance at a level that would suggest a car is just a car and and a 70's beater is no different that a brand new BMW or similar high end vehicle.Ignorance is bliss.


Cnet: "Why all HDMI cables are the same...."
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Expensive HDMI cables are a rip-off and offer no difference in picture quality over cheap ones. So when a salesman tries to up-sell, politely tell him he's wrong and move on with the sale.... Here's the deal: expensive HDMI cables offer no difference in picture quality over cheap HDMI cables. CNET has mentioned this before, but here's the science of why.....


Read the article, of course, for the details behind the headline.

The article also links, in turn, to a "Part 2" where the author does note that SOME cheap cables might fail to deliver a signal over long runs - he mentions 100 feet in the article - but still notes that many inexpensive cables will work Just Fine even over that distance.

And, of course, there can be differences in construction that might make one cable more durable than another - perhaps better able to withstand frequent connect/disconnect/connect cycles.

If spending more on cabling than is necessary makes you sleep better at night, by all means spend according to your income.

OTOH, don't LOSE any sleep if you've bought nearer the lower end of the scale: it simply shows prudent financial stewardship! wink.gif
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