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post #6631 of 9468
10/29/12 at 11:02am
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Are you able to watch Viera apps in the 2d>3d mode?

I just tried to watch netflix in 3D and it failed to do anything. I guess it's not made to do that. I wanted to convert The Walking Dead show into 3D (at least a little bit of 3D) but oh well.
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post #6632 of 9468
10/29/12 at 11:04am
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Originally Posted by BillyBoyBlue View Post

There's tons of stuff including Major League soccer, basketball and baseball. I don't know if it depends on model, or when your set was assembled, but for me, I clicked on Viera Connect and MLB, BLS and NBA were all on the first page. To see more, click on the little arrow below the middle view window. Also besides that click on the Viera Market place icon and there about 30 more choices, including games, stuff for kids, more sports, music, movies and even access to the Wall Street Joural business channel and Associated Press. Actually one of the best collections I've seen, some free others pay.
Here's the thing for those that haven't tried yet. You need to subscribe to the company that runs this. Without a wireless keyboard a royal pain. They ask for your name, address, credit card, etc.. I don't know if you have to do this to see all the goodies, but I did, just to have it set up in case I buy something or want to add a subscription service.

That may explain it. I did not register/sign up yet so I guess that's why I have limited options. No NBA in any of the places you mentioned so I'm gonna try registering 2nite and see if that changes things.
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post #6633 of 9468
10/29/12 at 11:36am
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Originally Posted by purbeast View Post

I used an impact driver to install all of the screws required for the stand base and had no problem.
I also used the same driver to remove them when I went to mount it on the wall.
I did have a #2 bit though.

My recommendation to not let the delivery drivers use a powered screwdriver was because they may not have one with a clutch, or if they do the clutch may be set to high and not release before stripping those soft screw heads. Or they could just be careless idiots who don't care if they damage the screws because they're in a hurry and want to get out of there. There have been a lot of reports here over the years where the delivery guys stripped the screws which causes big problems later when the stand needs to be removed. Some people have had their TVs replaced by the vendor because the screws got stripped by their delivery guys.

My recommendation that the owner use a screwdriver is mostly so he can be careful with his screws, and it's a lot easier to snug the screws by hand just enough to get the TV leveled out before tightening them down the rest of the way. You can't do that very well with a powered screwdriver. It's only four little screws and only takes a few seconds to do this by hand with a screwdriver.
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post #6634 of 9468
10/29/12 at 11:56am
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My recommendation to not let the delivery drivers use a powered screwdriver was because they may not have one with a clutch, or if they do the clutch may be set to high and not release before stripping those soft screw heads. .

I don't know if things changed but when I ordered mine from Amazon there were no choices as far as delivery, just basic. So before the delivery guys came I was a bit worried. In any case the "basic" service only includes taking the top off the box, leaving the set in the bottom of the carton, the delivery guys plug it in, check to see if it works (initial setup screen) ask you to test the remote, sign here, bye-bye. They weren't at the house more than 10 minutes if that.

I had a couple guys come over, I first assembled the stand, then the two guys lifted the tv out of the carton, slid it into the stand and held it while I tightened the screws in the stand myself with a hand held screw driver.
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post #6635 of 9468
10/29/12 at 12:07pm
Thanks for the info BillyBoy.

Amazon is delivering mine Friday so now I have a good idea of what to expect. Have to say what you described is much better than what Best Buy did for my first set.

On my first set Best Buy delivery literally carried it in right past my front door so it would close, had me sign, and left. No opening box, turning set on, is everything ok....., nada.
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post #6636 of 9468
10/29/12 at 12:47pm
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Originally Posted by TennisFreak View Post

Thanks for the info BillyBoy.
Amazon is delivering mine Friday so now I have a good idea of what to expect. Have to say what you described is much better than what Best Buy did for my first set.
On my first set Best Buy delivery literally carried it in right past my front door so it would close, had me sign, and left. No opening box, turning set on, is everything ok....., nada.

I forgot to add they lay carboard down first and bring it to the room you want, but won't go over one flight of stairs.
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post #6637 of 9468
10/29/12 at 1:11pm
Not adding anything new to the thread, but I just wanted to say I am happy with my st50 55". I'm only about 3/4 of the way done with the 100 hr break-in with slides, but I have watched a few things and the picture quality is definitely a major step up from my g10 46".

It's amazing how much more I got for $1100 in 2012 than I did in 2009 when I got my G10. Roughly the same weight and power consumption, but the picture is much better, it's 9" larger, it's half as thick, it does 3D, plus it has a sweet iphone app that lets me display my pics and videos.

Very pleased so far.
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post #6638 of 9468
10/29/12 at 1:40pm
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Originally Posted by pj325is View Post

Not adding anything new to the thread, but I just wanted to say I am happy with my st50 55". I'm only about 3/4 of the way done with the 100 hr break-in with slides, but I have watched a few things and the picture quality is definitely a major step up from my g10 46".
It's amazing how much more I got for $1100 in 2012 than I did in 2009 when I got my G10. Roughly the same weight and power consumption, but the picture is much better, it's 9" larger, it's half as thick, it does 3D, plus it has a sweet iphone app that lets me display my pics and videos.
Very pleased so far.

Sorry to ask but what iphone app would that be? Would it work on ipad?

I see a remote app but not one that shares vids and pics

And congrats on the set....im still waiting for my 50 st50....
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post #6639 of 9468
10/29/12 at 1:50pm
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Originally Posted by mr_mash View Post

Sorry to ask but what iphone app would that be? Would it work on ipad?
I see a remote app but not one that shares vids and pics
And congrats on the set....im still waiting for my 50 st50....

sorry....I see its the remote app ...didnt see the media tab....
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post #6640 of 9468
10/29/12 at 1:53pm
It's the official "viera remote" app.

Open the app and select your tv, then along the bottom, the buttons are "cursor, remote, browser, media, more"

select "media" then choose video or images and it will tell you how flick them onto your tv.

It will work on an ipad, but it might just be an upscaled version of the iphone app

Edit: took me a while to find it myself!
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post #6641 of 9468
10/29/12 at 3:00pm
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Originally Posted by rahzel View Post

The ST50 is essentially a 60Hz display, because the only refresh rate that 'properly' handles 24p (48Hz) is too low of a refresh rate so there's significant flicker. Since 60 cannot be evenly divided by 24, you have to convert 24 to 60. You can do this two ways: either set your PS3's 24p option to On and set your ST50's 24p direct in to 60Hz, or turn your PS3's 24p option off. Option 1 forces the ST50 to do the conversion, and option 2 forces the PS3 to do the conversion. Most people prefer option 1, myself included.

It seems the ST50 is doing some sort of magic with 24p sources. I am very sensitive to pulldown and in the 60hz setting I can't detect 3:2 in panning shots like on my other plasma. CNET seems to confirm this. I bet Panasonic uses a blended frame.
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post #6642 of 9468
10/29/12 at 4:56pm
No matter how you slice it, still boils down to frame interpolation. Visit this page

: http://www.vieraexperience.com/html/cs_CZ/picture-quality/cinema-format/24p-smooth-film

On the left you'll see two little arrows. Click the bottom (where it says 24p smooth film AFTER you read the initial page and look at the details on the right, then do the same for the second page.The first page explains "old school" 3:2 playback, and the 2nd page the method used in Viera plasma sets.

Now here's the funny part. For the purist crowd (they're never happy) if you have a sharp eye they claim you can see slight flicker when you visit a movie theater. This is the so-called "film look". Problem is trying to get it right on a tv is no easy task. Besides it is much to do about nothing.

Now watch this YouTube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8YaKdLIp6I It is suppose to show the "difference" between regular and movie "look". It changes when the video changes color. Now if anyone can see a difference please tell me, and say WHAT it is you see, because I tried, and can't, aside from the color shift which was intentional to supposedly give you a visual clue when it changes.
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post #6643 of 9468
10/29/12 at 5:01pm
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Originally Posted by BillyBoyBlue View Post

I don't know if things changed but when I ordered mine from Amazon there were no choices as far as delivery, just basic. So before the delivery guys came I was a bit worried. In any case the "basic" service only includes taking the top off the box, leaving the set in the bottom of the carton, the delivery guys plug it in, check to see if it works (initial setup screen) ask you to test the remote, sign here, bye-bye. They weren't at the house more than 10 minutes if that.
I had a couple guys come over, I first assembled the stand, then the two guys lifted the tv out of the carton, slid it into the stand and held it while I tightened the screws in the stand myself with a hand held screw driver.
That is the standard delivery but I have heard from people that said that they will put it on the stand if you ask nice enough and they have the time. It wouldnt hurt to have a $20 bill on standby for a tip if you are old or something and cant do it yourself. My personal experience was that the guy showed up in a van by himself (60") and he wanted to bang it up 3 flights of steps in an apt bldg. with a 2 wheeled dolly. I told him he wasnt going to do that with my $1500 tv and I helped him carry it. I had no problem with it and didnt think anything of it. When I called Amazon later about something else (tv price match) and mentioned the delivery, they put $60 back on my credit card. With the price match I got $185 off of what I paid for the tv. I love Amazon. They have always done me right.
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post #6644 of 9468
10/29/12 at 6:05pm
My 65 is HERE!

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post #6645 of 9468
10/29/12 at 6:51pm
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

That is the standard delivery but I have heard from people that said that they will put it on the stand if you ask nice enough and they have the time. It wouldnt hurt to have a $20 bill on standby for a tip if you are old or something and cant do it yourself. My personal experience was that the guy showed up in a van by himself (60") and he wanted to bang it up 3 flights of steps in an apt bldg. with a 2 wheeled dolly. I told him he wasnt going to do that with my $1500 tv and I helped him carry it. I had no problem with it and didnt think anything of it. When I called Amazon later about something else (tv price match) and mentioned the delivery, they put $60 back on my credit card. With the price match I got $185 off of what I paid for the tv. I love Amazon. They have always done me right.

I got mine from BB and they used Pilot service to deliver it. You should've seen how this one dude carried my tv. He held the box at one corner, pointing it towards the sky at a slight angle, as if he's shooting a rocket launcher. He carried it by himself all the way across the parking lot and into the living room. Amazing! No installation though but i'm glad cuz I like to do that myself so I know what to do when I have to dissemble it and move in the future.
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post #6646 of 9468
10/29/12 at 9:52pm
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Originally Posted by Muddeprived View Post

I just tried to watch netflix in 3D and it failed to do anything. I guess it's not made to do that. I wanted to convert The Walking Dead show into 3D (at least a little bit of 3D) but oh well.
Strange thing is that it only doesnt work on the internal apps. 3d tv but no 3d on internal apps. If you go to Netflix through another source (PS3, bluray player, etc) then the 2d>3d function will work. Try Walking Dead on another source.
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post #6647 of 9468
10/30/12 at 5:49am
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

That is the standard delivery but I have heard from people that said that they will put it on the stand if you ask nice enough and they have the time. It wouldnt hurt to have a $20 bill on standby for a tip if you are old or something and cant do it yourself. My personal experience was that the guy showed up in a van by himself (60") and he wanted to bang it up 3 flights of steps in an apt bldg. with a 2 wheeled dolly. I told him he wasnt going to do that with my $1500 tv and I helped him carry it. I had no problem with it and didnt think anything of it. When I called Amazon later about something else (tv price match) and mentioned the delivery, they put $60 back on my credit card. With the price match I got $185 off of what I paid for the tv. I love Amazon. They have always done me right.

I had a very similar experience, only the delivery guy was not going to use a dolly. Rather, he was about to carry it up to my third floor apartment by hand. Obviously, when I realized that he was there by himself I offered to, and did, assist him. He said that supposedly the dispatcher sends someone along with him when they know it is above the first floor of an apartment. But, my address does not included an apartment number, so it can easily be mistaken for a house address. Frankly, I do not know why they would ever allow someone to carry something that heavy and unwieldy by themselves.
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post #6648 of 9468
10/30/12 at 5:50am
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My 65 is HERE!
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post #6649 of 9468
10/30/12 at 5:55am
So, now I come to find out that my Uverse remote will control the volume of the AVR. No need for an expensive Harmony-esque universal one apparently. The only explanation that I can think of is that it is working via Viera Link and the HDMI connection. I am going to guess that the Uverse remote (which yesterday, through force of habit, I went to change the volume with) sends the command to the TV, which due to Viera Link being set to "Home Theater" as the default speakers and "HDMI Control" turned on in the AVR, sends it to the AVR?
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post #6650 of 9468
10/30/12 at 7:12am
All the so-called "automatic" control has proved to be a pain in the butt for me. I'll explain. I treated myself to a blu ray player, a Panasonic DMP-BDT320. One of a series in Vieria "smart" line. I have this and a WD Live media player and my Cisco cable box all plugged into my Sony A/V receiver. I also have my Netgear wireless router broadcasting to my tv as part of my WiFi network to stream content to the tv. Sounds like everything should be peachy. Not exactly.

I turn on both my TV in the family room and my main PC in the den usually first thing in the morning. When I do this my TV presents a gray screen saying press any key. I hear the tv audio playing in the background. This request is to press "any key" on my cable box tv remote. I do. If my PC in the den hasn't finished booting up, the tv flashes another gray screen saying "waiting for hard drive to spin up" or something to that effect it just flashes by. I know this is the PC it's referring to because if I later turn off the tv and back on again during the day while the PC is already up and running I don't get this error.

It gets worse... at bedtime or whenever I'm finished watching the tv, I press the off button on the TV remote. Doing this turns off the tv and my A/V receiver BUT just as soon as I do this the A/V receiver turns itself back on, (not the tv or anything else), requiring I manually turn off the A/V receiver by pressed it's power button.

More fun... If I press the "on" button on the remote of my WD live media player if the TV is off, it turns it on as well as turning on the A/V receiver if it is off. It works fine WITHOUT me manually having to change inputs on any remote or on the A/V receiver, which itself is weird, but wait... still more. When I'm done using the WD live, pressing it's power button turns it off, but don't turn off the tv, not a big deal but come back the next day or whatever the tv won't come on because you guessed it, it has (by itself) switching from it's defaul input to the one the WD lives uses and I have to manually switch back.

Now I can control the blu ray player with its remote or the tv remote and I can control any of the devices (more or less) with their respective remote or using a Android app from my tablet or cell phone, but yeah, trying that also causes weird behavior... sometimes. So this whole process needs works to really work correctly. mad.gif
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post #6651 of 9468
10/30/12 at 7:15am
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Originally Posted by BillyBoyBlue View Post

All the so-called "automatic" control has proved to be a pain in the butt for me. I'll explain. I treated myself to a blu ray player, a Panasonic DMP-BDT320. One of a series in Vieria "smart" line. I have this and a WD Live media player and my Cisco cable box all plugged into my Sony A/V receiver. I also have my Netgear wireless router broadcasting to my tv as part of my WiFi network to stream content to the tv. Sounds like everything should be peachy. Not exactly.
I turn on both my TV in the family room and my main PC in the den usually first thing in the morning. When I do this my TV presents a gray screen saying press any key. I hear the tv audio playing in the background. This request is to press "any key" on my cable box tv remote. I do. If my PC in the den hasn't finished booting up, the tv flashes another gray screen saying "waiting for hard drive to spin up" or something to that effect it just flashes by. I know this is the PC it's referring to because if I later turn off the tv and back on again during the day while the PC is already up and running I don't get this error.
It gets worse... at bedtime or whenever I'm finished watching the tv, I press the off button on the TV remote. Doing this turns off the tv and my A/V receiver BUT just as soon as I do this the A/V receiver turns itself back on, (not the tv or anything else), requiring I manually turn off the A/V receiver by pressed it's power button.
More fun... If I press the "on" button on the remote of my WD live media player if the TV is off, it turns it on as well as turning on the A/V receiver if it is off. It works fine WITHOUT me manually having to change inputs on any remote or on the A/V receiver, which itself is weird, but wait... still more. When I'm done using the WD live, pressing it's power button turns it off, but don't turn off the tv, not a big deal but come back the next day or whatever the tv won't come on because you guessed it, it has (by itself) switching from it's defaul input to the one the WD lives uses and I have to manually switch back.
Now I can control the blu ray player with its remote or the tv remote and I can control any of the devices (more or less) with their respective remote or using a Android app from my tablet or cell phone, but yeah, trying that also causes weird behavior... sometimes. So this all process needs works to really work correctly. mad.gif

Goddamn that is confusing and i feel for you LOL. Thank god I only have two remotes/systems to deal with!
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post #6652 of 9468
10/30/12 at 8:23am
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Originally Posted by Muddeprived View Post

Goddamn that is confusing and i feel for you LOL. Thank god I only have two remotes/systems to deal with!

Yeah, that does sound rather frustrating. I went cross-eyed just reading it. Hope maybe it can still work out.

I did not even intend for all of this to work out as it has. I fully expected to get tired of having to wield two remotes and succumb to purchasing a pricey one from Logitech. But, it seems as if through sheer luck and the fortunate balancing act of Viera Link, ARC, and HDMI Control on my AVR that may not have to be the case. I wish that I could say that I planned it this way, but I can't. It seems to have more or less fallen into my lap.
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post #6653 of 9468
10/30/12 at 9:02am
I've searched for this but haven't seen any mention of it.

I have a new 60" ST50. I've had it for about 2 weeks so I'm still in the 30 day return/exchange period. I'm very paranoid because my last plasma (Samsung 58") spontaneously cracked after 2 years...never touched. Unbelievable.

Anyway...was playing a game last night and twice in a half hour the set clicked and went black and then came back on. Apparently it shut off because when it came back up it went through the standard branding screen and so forth. Nothing else was affected...the room lights, the PS3 and the stereo stayed on through both events.

What do you think...should I exchange it for another one? In any case I'll definitely be getting a square trade warranty before the 30 days are up.

Thanks.
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10/30/12 at 9:10am
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Originally Posted by tweezak View Post

I've searched for this but haven't seen any mention of it.
I have a new 60" ST50. I've had it for about 2 weeks so I'm still in the 30 day return/exchange period. I'm very paranoid because my last plasma (Samsung 58") spontaneously cracked after 2 years...never touched. Unbelievable.
Anyway...was playing a game last night and twice in a half hour the set clicked and went black and then came back on. Apparently it shut off because when it came back up it went through the standard branding screen and so forth. Nothing else was affected...the room lights, the PS3 and the stereo stayed on through both events.
What do you think...should I exchange it for another one? In any case I'll definitely be getting a square trade warranty before the 30 days are up.
Thanks.

what exactly did your samsung do?
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post #6655 of 9468
10/30/12 at 9:44am
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Originally Posted by CLEHD View Post

So, now I come to find out that my Uverse remote will control the volume of the AVR. No need for an expensive Harmony-esque universal one apparently. The only explanation that I can think of is that it is working via Viera Link and the HDMI connection. I am going to guess that the Uverse remote (which yesterday, through force of habit, I went to change the volume with) sends the command to the TV, which due to Viera Link being set to "Home Theater" as the default speakers and "HDMI Control" turned on in the AVR, sends it to the AVR?
I never mentioned that I have a Logitech 650 that controls the tv, bluray, receiver and cable box. I only have to get the PS3 remote out on occasion because it is bluetooth. A big reason why ARC has no value for me. I only paid $40 for the remote and have had it 2 years and it is worth its weight in gold.
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10/30/12 at 10:14am
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Originally Posted by Muddeprived View Post

what exactly did your samsung do?
It was pretty spectacular. My wife and I were watching a DVD and there was a loud pop followed by a loud buzzing noise and the screen went black. I powered everything off and back on and the buzzing continued. I could still hear audio through the stereo but the TV had no picture. I walked up to it to investigate and there was a crack about 2 feet long from the lower right extending up toward the middle of the screen.

We had NEVER touched the glass on that TV. We had never even cleaned it. It was pristine and perfect and in a moment it was garbage. After googling "samsung plasma cracked" and seeing the vast throngs of outraged people with denied warranty claims for cracked Samsung plasmas I swore off Samsungs forever. Particularly after reading a service guy's detailed explanation of how badly designed Samsung's thermal management system is.

It was a $2100 lesson. On the plus side I got to catch up on my reading some.


But back to my question...has anyone seen unexplained power cycling by the ST50? I'll check the power cord tonight to make sure it's snug but if that's not it I'm calling them to bring me another set.
Edited by tweezak - 10/30/12 at 11:18am
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10/30/12 at 12:03pm
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Originally Posted by tweezak View Post

It was pretty spectacular. My wife and I were watching a DVD and there was a loud pop followed by a loud buzzing noise and the screen went black. I powered everything off and back on and the buzzing continued. I could still hear audio through the stereo but the TV had no picture. I walked up to it to investigate and there was a crack about 2 feet long from the lower right extending up toward the middle of the screen.
We had NEVER touched the glass on that TV. We had never even cleaned it. It was pristine and perfect and in a moment it was garbage. After googling "samsung plasma cracked" and seeing the vast throngs of outraged people with denied warranty claims for cracked Samsung plasmas I swore off Samsungs forever. Particularly after reading a service guy's detailed explanation of how badly designed Samsung's thermal management system is.
It was a $2100 lesson. On the plus side I got to catch up on my reading some.
But back to my question...has anyone seen unexplained power cycling by the ST50? I'll check the power cord tonight to make sure it's snug but if that's not it I'm calling them to bring me another set.

Wow, what bad luck!

File for future reference: Most people are unaware that many deluxe home owners insurance policies (I have Allstate for over 40 years) will cover things like this up to a point. All polices vary and depending if you have a good agent it should be written all contents are covered up to any maximum value as detailed in the policy for specific items, minus your deductable. Some policies may or may not also apply depreciation. Still you might have got something, in fact you still might, no harm in asking.

Unexplained power cycling generally is not good. Outside causes can cause it too. I live in a city (Naperville) where they buy electricity wholesale from Com Edison the main supplier in Chicago. While the costs are 40% less, the cityy does its own upkeep and sometimes that isn't so hot. While the utilites in most of the city are underground sometimes a transformer trips. While they have redudant backup the power can be out for a couple milaseconds. They can or sometimes not effect some equipment. For me, the lights flicker, one digital clock always goes out and then comes back on blinking while the the tv (my older plasma) may or may not go out or reset.
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post #6658 of 9468
10/30/12 at 12:55pm
What are the odds someone has any of the ST series on sale on Black Friday?
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post #6659 of 9468
10/30/12 at 1:03pm
On the cracked Plasma, not to be insulting but you do have your TV plugged into a surge protector? If two TVs went bad plugged into the same socket there may be a problem there.

Anywho, have any of you had Home Direct USA ship your TV? I ordered a ST50 from Paul's on Thursday morning. Home Direct didn't pick it up until Monday (ugh) and now it's Tuesday afternoon and according to their website nothing has happened since. The estimated delivery date is Nov 14... Should I expect the worst or is it likely to show up within the 7 days that Paul's claimed?
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post #6660 of 9468
10/30/12 at 1:59pm
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Originally Posted by Chris Mishima View Post

On the cracked Plasma, not to be insulting but you do have your TV plugged into a surge protector? If two TVs went bad plugged into the same socket there may be a problem there.

Not insulted at all. Thank you for the reply.

Good thought. I have the set plugged into a Monster Cable AV surge protector. I don't have the model with me right now but it's only 2 years old so I would kind of doubt that's the issue. I may do some testing on it. I'm an electrical engineer specializing in failure analysis and characterization so I have some decent capabilities at my disposal.

Also, if you haven't heard of it you might find it interesting to search for the Samsung cracking issue. It's pretty amazing. According to service techs Samsung used to replace sets that this happened to but after it became very frequent a new policy came down from corporate and they began denying everything. There's actually a class action suit pending in NJ.

I also thought...well...maybe this is just a few people that had an ax to grind and a bunch of others jumped on the bandwagon. Maybe it's just as bad with other brands. Well...research suggests otherwise. No cracking results for LG, Panasonic, etc. Only Samsung. I think the problem really started to get serious when they began making their sets extremely thin. Mine was only 1.2" thick. My suspicion is that they are not able to dissipate heat well enough and the glass expands unevenly. A service tech told me that they also started bonding the inner and outer layers together whereas they used to leave a gap between them. Additionally...my crack originated at a point just in front of a circuit board with a lot of venting around it suggesting it's a heat generator.

Here's how I look at it: it happened to me without user intervention. I know it happened...so I feel compelled to believe it happened to others. And if Samsung tells me and all the others that we are lying because they "know" it's user damage well they can get their money somewhere else.

But like I said. No offense taken. But I am speaking from first hand experience...not hearsay. When you pay extra for delivery service and treat your plasma with extreme care because you know they are delicate...then watch your TV implode from 15' away with nothing near it...it's just slightly annoying to be told by Samsung you caused the damage.

But back on topic. I love the ST50 but I don't like the fact that it doesn't have a "blue only" mode for calibration. That said the factory hue/tint appears very natural (to my eyes) once brightness/contrast/sharpness are tweaked in.
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