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post #7171 of 9509
11/25/12 at 1:03am
So which settings are better cnets or d nices,
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post #7172 of 9509
11/25/12 at 3:43am
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Originally Posted by gomess023 View Post

So which settings are better cnets or d nices,
Most say DNice. Try them both and decide for yourself.
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post #7173 of 9509
11/25/12 at 3:55am
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Originally Posted by Make73 View Post

I´m suffering with same problem.
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1397245/official-panasonic-st50-series-discussion-thread-no-street-price-talk/6900#post_22584935
Service took set week ago and they still waiting answer from Panasonic what to do.
Seems that there are few units which are more sensible to IR/burn-in than others.
Had also two Panasonic plasma models before ST50 and not ever this kind of problem.
At first Panasonic (Finland) said IR not belongs under warranty, but like you said it´s really not normal that you have to clear screen 100 hours after few hours gaming or watching channel where is bright opaque channel logo.
Made reclamation to customer protection and now service examine is it faulty (out of factory specs) or not.
If they still not accept to repair it I´m going to take this case under customer law processing.
edit:
Just got e-mail from service that Panasonic agreed to fix my set by replacing new panel cool.gif
So there´s no sense to drive cleaning 100 hours if you have burn-in just after few hour TV watching, panel is faulty and belongs under warranty.

Good to hear they admit it is faulty. Now it would be interesting to hear if replacing a panel actually helps. Please report when you get it back.
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post #7174 of 9509
11/25/12 at 5:45am
I watch in almost total darkness, so I use d-nices settings. The picture quality looks great. I found cnets settings a bit too bright for normal watching. The whites seem to lose a little detail. But I like the extra brightness for 3d viewing.

Try them both and see which one you like.

melvis
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post #7175 of 9509
11/25/12 at 6:06am
I actually prefer the settings here on post 4590. I have about 150 hours on my set and applied these out of the box. I tried the d-nice and cnet settings last night and found them both to be a bit dark.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1397245/official-panasonic-st50-series-discussion-thread-no-street-price-talk/4560#post_22281548
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post #7176 of 9509
11/25/12 at 7:12am
I just got the 55 Friday. I used the Cnet setting and now I want to try D-nice but cant find it in the endless pages here. Can some one please tell me wich page the settings are on?
Thanks
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post #7177 of 9509
11/25/12 at 7:16am
^^^google it, it's not on here.
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post #7178 of 9509
11/25/12 at 7:16am
I found D-nice's settings too dark. Our family room has some natural and light from adjoining rooms, so cnet's settings fit the bill.
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post #7179 of 9509
11/25/12 at 7:22am
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Originally Posted by djPerfectTrip View Post

^^^google it, it's not on here.
I did, still cant find it. lol
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post #7180 of 9509
11/25/12 at 7:25am
Here's a comparison of Cnet (50st50)/D-nice (55st50)/Rahzel's (65st50) settings:

Contrast: +82..............Contrast: 76.............Contrast: 82
Brightness: +60.............Brightness: 56.............Brightness: 58
Color: +46.............Color: 43.............Color: 45
W/B high R: +10.............W/B High R: -7.............W/B High R: -7
W/B high B: +3.............W/B High B: -2.............W/B High B: +3
W/B low R: +4 .............W/B Low R: +12.............W/B Low R: +11
W/B low B: -2.............W/B Low B: +3.............W/B Low B: +4
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post #7181 of 9509
11/25/12 at 7:28am
i feel like an ass, but after posting this i noticed the buzzing. From what i could see, It is only pronounced when there is allot of 'bright white' on the screen and only on SD channels mad.gif
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post #7182 of 9509
11/25/12 at 7:56am
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Originally Posted by Big Lebowski View Post

Good to hear they admit it is faulty. Now it would be interesting to hear if replacing a panel actually helps. Please report when you get it back.

Yep, I´ll let you know.
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post #7183 of 9509
11/25/12 at 8:33am
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Originally Posted by stevensly View Post

i feel like an ass, but after posting this i noticed the buzzing. From what i could see, It is only pronounced when there is allot of 'bright white' on the screen and only on SD channels mad.gif

When you changed the settings?
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post #7184 of 9509
11/25/12 at 9:07am
i've read that rahzel's settings are recommended over dnice's for sets larger than 55 inches. any particular reason for that? is it still recommended to do dnice's slides for the 100 hours if you aren't going to use his exact settings? thanks!
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post #7185 of 9509
11/25/12 at 9:42am
Well that didn't take long , Had the 50ST55 for 2 days and already the thing is making a Clicking noise and turning itself on and off.
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post #7186 of 9509
11/25/12 at 10:10am
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Originally Posted by stevensly View Post

i feel like an ass, but after posting this i noticed the buzzing. From what i could see, It is only pronounced when there is allot of 'bright white' on the screen and only on SD channels mad.gif
That's interesting. I wonder how many of the other owners who said they hear minimal buzzing only tested with HD and not overly bright scenes. Because when the scene is not very bright, the buzzing on mine is only heard if you put your head behind the screen. And in fact if I use the Standard setting, I don't hear it at all. Maybe there is less variation between the panels and a lot more variation in the way owners test for buzzing on their sets.
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post #7187 of 9509
11/25/12 at 10:11am
I just started looking into this tv and the gt50,I have mostly read talk about calibration. Is this necessary fortress sets, and if it is not done will it lead to problems with burn or any others?
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post #7188 of 9509
11/25/12 at 10:15am
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Originally Posted by bcarroll01 View Post

I just started looking into this tv and the gt50,I have mostly read talk about calibration. Is this necessary fortress sets, and if it is not done will it lead to problems with burn or any others?
You don't need calibration - I am using CNet's settings and the picture looks fantastic. Also, calibration does not prevent IR or burn in.
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post #7189 of 9509
11/25/12 at 10:34am
Would burn in be a problem when watching a lot of hockey at a max of 3-5 hours at a time?
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post #7190 of 9509
11/25/12 at 11:51am
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Originally Posted by EricST View Post

Well that didn't take long , Had the 50ST55 for 2 days and already the thing is making a Clicking noise and turning itself on and off.
Well I took it back jsut now and got another one ,this one says MF Date is Nov 12' . Waiting for it to warm up to room temp before plugging it in. Wish me luck.
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post #7191 of 9509
11/25/12 at 12:31pm
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Originally Posted by EricST View Post

Well I took it back jsut now and got another one ,this one says MF Date is Nov 12' . Waiting for it to warm up to room temp before plugging it in. Wish me luck.

Cool you had the ability to exchange it smile.gif Seemed an odd problem, has that been an issue for these tvs?
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post #7192 of 9509
11/25/12 at 12:45pm
Word to the wise -- while CNet's and/or D-Nice's settings are a good starting point, each panel is different from the next. You really need to calibrate your individual set to get an accurate picture rather than plugging-and-playing with generic settings. I calibrated my set with a colorimeter and HCFR software and got a very good grayscale calibration, but my settings are different than both D-Nice's and CNet's. I know my personal settings are good for my TV since I measured them -- but had I used D-Nice's settings or CNet's settings, my picture wouldn't be as measurably accurate as it is.
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post #7193 of 9509
11/25/12 at 12:46pm
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Originally Posted by ser_renely View Post

Cool you had the ability to exchange it smile.gif Seemed an odd problem, has that been an issue for these tvs?
Never on any LCD I'v own. I had it since 5pm Friday night and watch about 10 hrs was woken this morning by a clicking noise like it was trying to tun on or off on .Then I watch a 90 movie and it started the clicking again and shut down, then from 10:30 this morning till I unplugged it and packed it up at 1:30 on and off on its own. The stupid thing is the BB employee plunged it in and because it didnt turn off for him in 5 min time he slapped a Clarence sticker on it and set it on the shelf to be re-sold.
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post #7194 of 9509
11/25/12 at 12:49pm
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Originally Posted by Schwa View Post

Word to the wise -- while CNet's and/or D-Nice's settings are a good starting point, each panel is different from the next. You really need to calibrate your individual set to get an accurate picture rather than plugging-and-playing with generic settings. I calibrated my set with a colorimeter and HCFR software and got a very good grayscale calibration, but my settings are different than both D-Nice's and CNet's. I know my personal settings are good for my TV since I measured them -- but had I used D-Nice's settings or CNet's settings, my picture wouldn't be as measurably accurate as it is.
I just used Plasmatvbuying guide setting's and love the result.
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post #7195 of 9509
11/25/12 at 12:49pm
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Originally Posted by p3Orion View Post

Vinterbird, Wolowizard what are the manufacture dates of your respective TVs?

July 2012
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post #7196 of 9509
11/25/12 at 2:37pm
My 2nd day of using the TV.. can I calibrate yet or should I wait past the 100 hour mark
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post #7197 of 9509
11/25/12 at 2:41pm
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Originally Posted by ugk View Post

My 2nd day of using the TV.. can I calibrate yet or should I wait past the 100 hour mark
Definitely wait at least 100 hours before calibrating.
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post #7198 of 9509
11/25/12 at 2:54pm
Now when you say "calibrate" Do u mean adjusting the setting alaa D-nice or CNET? I did that right away..will it hurt the tv?
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post #7199 of 9509
11/25/12 at 3:20pm
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Originally Posted by EricST View Post

Now when you say "calibrate" Do u mean adjusting the setting alaa D-nice or CNET? I did that right away..will it hurt the tv?

No.

However, your panel will almost certainly change over the first 100 - 300 hours of usage, which is why D'nice provided two sets of settings - out-of-box, and Post-100 Hours Slides.

I would argue, based upon our experience, that a 2011/12 Panasonic Plasma is likely to experience PQ changes over At Least the first 400 - 500 hours of its life, and generally For The Better.

And the point that others have made that No Two Panels are Exactly Alike should be kept in mind: any group of "universal settings" is unlikely to be Ideal for any Given Panel.
Might make a good starting point, but you are probably better off at least checking with the HD709 disk, or one of the commercial "calibration" disks.
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post #7200 of 9509
11/25/12 at 4:02pm
I will be taking delivery of my 55ST50 this week. Delivery includes "white glove" service so what steps do I take when I inspect the TV in front of the shippers, considering I will be running D-nice's slides, and therefore will not hook it up to DVR? Do I just visually inspect for damage and then power it on? Run the slides briefly?
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