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post #7531 of 9972
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Originally Posted by Frank Spizzirri View Post

man, i love this tv, but I can't believe I have a stubborn IR from my program guide logo "BELL" which I have up for minutes a day. Has me very worried.

What picture mode and/or picture settings are you using?

Can you see the logo during regular content or just on slides/solid screens?
post #7532 of 9972
I am using d-nice's settings. contrast at 76 in custom mode. not overly bright. yes I can see it with light solid color in the background.
post #7533 of 9972
Odd. That's pretty similar to mine. I've never checked with slides or anything. But every once in a while I might pause on a particularly bright or dark background just out of curiosity. I haven't noticed anything yet, though.
post #7534 of 9972
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Post #2 will direct you to where you can find the slides and there is an FAQ on page #3 of the slides site that is very helpful.
I read where to find them, but I guess I'm confused as to why we can't post them on our forum especially since D-Nice is ON our forum. It seems foolish to have to sign up for a whole other forum when the whole point of these things is to share information and knowledge with each other to help each other get the best possible experience in Home Theater. If I had knowledge like he does, I'd post my settings and slides on this forum too and bask in the glory and praise that everyone would be giving me. Just my 2 cents, but I've only got 6 posts so what do i know tongue.gif

Still wondering if you need to get your set calibrated professionally if you already have the settings from experienced AVS people on here?

If not, what setting do you run the slides on (cinema, standard, custom, etc..??)?
post #7535 of 9972
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Originally Posted by Agnt008 View Post

I read where to find them, but I guess I'm confused as to why we can't post them on our forum especially since D-Nice is ON our forum. It seems foolish to have to sign up for a whole other forum when the whole point of these things is to share information and knowledge with each other to help each other get the best possible experience in Home Theater. If I had knowledge like he does, I'd post my settings and slides on this forum too and bask in the glory and praise that everyone would be giving me. Just my 2 cents, but I've only got 6 posts so what do i know tongue.gif
Still wondering if you need to get your set calibrated professionally if you already have the settings from experienced AVS people on here?
If not, what setting do you run the slides on (cinema, standard, custom, etc..??)?
Reread the FAQs for slides settings. Nothing is a substitute for a professional calibration on YOUR display.
post #7536 of 9972
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Originally Posted by Agnt008 View Post

I read where to find them, but I guess I'm confused as to why we can't post them on our forum especially since D-Nice is ON our forum. It seems foolish to have to sign up for a whole other forum when the whole point of these things is to share information and knowledge with each other to help each other get the best possible experience in Home Theater. If I had knowledge like he does, I'd post my settings and slides on this forum too and bask in the glory and praise that everyone would be giving me. Just my 2 cents, but I've only got 6 posts so what do i know tongue.gif
Still wondering if you need to get your set calibrated professionally if you already have the settings from experienced AVS people on here?
If not, what setting do you run the slides on (cinema, standard, custom, etc..??)?

Those are his settings and he chooses the method in which they are distributed. I appreciate his contributions on both forums. You might plug in his settings and be good to go or you might not. No two sets are exactly alike even in the same model line.
post #7537 of 9972
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Originally Posted by Frank Spizzirri View Post

man, i love this tv, but I can't believe I have a stubborn IR from my program guide logo "BELL" which I have up for minutes a day. Has me very worried.
Fellers i have bell fibe too. When ifirdt gotthe tv i did the same thing i kept the bell sign up when i was creating playlists. AnywhO, i could
Only see it on a black slide . To get rid of it i just ran a full screen movie for about 2 hours with contrat at 100
post #7538 of 9972
GUYS I HAVE A MAJOR PROBLEM. I CLEANED MY ST50 WITH PAPER TOWELS AND WINDEX TODAY. DIDNT KNOW IT WAS DAMAGING TO THE SCREEN. NOW I HAVE NASTY STREAKS AND WHATNOT AND IM SCARED I JUST RUINED THIS FEW MONTH OLD TELEVISION. THROUGH GOOGLE I FOUND A REMEDY WHICH IS TO CLEAN IT AGAIN WITH A SOFT CLOTH DIPPED INTO DISTILLED WATER WITH A BIT OF DISH DETERGENT BUT I HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO MAKE DISTILLED WATER. It requires a glass bowl apparantly? I dont have one.

Sorry for the caps but I am freaking out frown.gif
post #7539 of 9972
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Originally Posted by gregzzy22 View Post

GUYS I HAVE A MAJOR PROBLEM. I CLEANED MY ST50 WITH PAPER TOWELS AND WINDEX TODAY. DIDNT KNOW IT WAS DAMAGING TO THE SCREEN. NOW I HAVE NASTY STREAKS AND WHATNOT AND IM SCARED I JUST RUINED THIS FEW MONTH OLD TELEVISION. THROUGH GOOGLE I FOUND A REMEDY WHICH IS TO CLEAN IT AGAIN WITH A SOFT CLOTH DIPPED INTO DISTILLED WATER WITH A BIT OF DISH DETERGENT BUT I HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO MAKE DISTILLED WATER. It requires a glass bowl apparantly? I dont have one.
Sorry for the caps but I am freaking out frown.gif

Your local grocery store/supermarket probably has gallon jugs of distilled water in the aisle where they keep bottled water and water filters, etc.
post #7540 of 9972
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Originally Posted by CLEHD View Post

Your local grocery store/supermarket probably has gallon jugs of distilled water in the aisle where they keep bottled water and water filters, etc.

I will check the market across the street in a couple of hours. How much damage did I do? This was the first time I applied windex to the plasma. Only sprayed directly once. Otherwise on papertowel then I wiped. From my research, i wiped off the anti glare apparantly?
post #7541 of 9972
Thread Starter 
Don't wait a couple of hours - i'd turn the TV off so that it cools down and use a microfiber cloth (or even an old clean cotton T-shirt) and just use some tap water with a few drops of mild dish soap mixed in and gently wipe the screen before the Windex eats the delicate coating. It's not imperative that you use distilled if you don't have any handy. You have to get that Windex off the screen as it has eaten the coating on more than a few Plasmas of AVSers before and has effectively ruined their display. Hopefully it's not too late. Wipe VERY gently (don't press hard).

And ALWAYS clean the screen when the TV is cold - if you do it warm the water dries immediately before you can wipe it off and leaves stubborn streaks.
post #7542 of 9972
WOW! That is like the ultimate sin. Windex and paper towel. I feel bad for the guy. Even if the coating isn't destroyed from the Windex, the paper towel has scratched it all to hell.
post #7543 of 9972
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Originally Posted by Krefly View Post

Ordered a 60ST50 from Amazon and recieved it Friday. I was not impressed with the delivery.
Turned it on and started running the slides Saturday morning and it has been running continuously since. I can hear a buzz on the white slide only if I'm within a foot of the back of the TV. Nothing at all from the front. No dead pixels or any other oddities so far. September build. Will report back once I get it hooked up if I notice anything wrong.
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Originally Posted by btinindy View Post

Ummmm, you should also report back if there is nothing wrong, as in the case with my 60ST50 and 65VT50! Love these Panasonic's! Just saying, the forums are not just for things that are wrong. Many read these threads prior to purchasing and the good ones are just as important as the panels with issues.
Hope you enjoy your television!

This is my second Plasma. It's replacing a Pioneer PDP-5080HD that has performed flawlessly for over four years but it was time for a larger panel and a step up to 1080p native. The Pioneer is getting relocated to the garage. I wanted to make sure I wasn't downgrading so I did my due diligence. I nearly bought a GT30 last year. I'm glad I waited one more year.

I finished the 100 hour panel prep today and applied D-Nice's settings. Made some setting changes in PS3 and popped in District 9. The picture is fantastic! Every bit as good or better than the Pioneer at a fraction of the cost with 10 more inches. I think I have a fairly discerning eye and can pick out little oddities that most people would miss. I see nothing out of the ordinary with this panel. There was one minor annoyance that the Pioneer had and I was never able to determine if it was the panel or something with the PS3. I do not see it with the Panny.

I am extremely pleased with this TV!!
post #7544 of 9972
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

WOW! That is like the ultimate sin. Windex and paper towel. I feel bad for the guy. Even if the coating isn't destroyed from the Windex, the paper towel has scratched it all to hell.

Wow is right. I've had my Pioneer plasma for over 4 years and never once touched the screen with any liquid including water. I never had to use anything more than a microfiber towel to clean the screen.
post #7545 of 9972
wow you guys are making me feel really crummy. before i posted, I wet a soft cloth in tap water and a drop of dish detergent and ran through the screen. dried it with a dry soft cloth that came with my old lcd (I dont think this set came with a cloth). the set has looked ok. i ran the white slides after the windex fiasco and thats when I saw the awful streaks. it has gotten better since then but i just ran the slides again and theres still a gang of streaks at the bottom.
post #7546 of 9972
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Originally Posted by gregzzy22 View Post

wow you guys are making me feel really crummy. before i posted, I wet a soft cloth in tap water and a drop of dish detergent and ran through the screen. dried it with a dry soft cloth that came with my old lcd (I dont think this set came with a cloth). the set has looked ok. i ran the white slides after the windex fiasco and thats when I saw the awful streaks. it has gotten better since then but i just ran the slides again and theres still a gang of streaks at the bottom.

I don't think anyone here wants to make you feel bad. If anything, we feel bad for you. Posting these experiences will hopefully keep the same thing from happening to someone else.
post #7547 of 9972
i just wanna know, am i completely f'ed? what happened to the other people who made the same mistake? did the picture slowly deteriorate or something? because the picture looks ok, just when I run the white anti image retention slide, I see a crap load of streaking and stuff-i guess from the windex and my attempts to wipe it off.
post #7548 of 9972
If i see streaking during the anti image retention slide- but the picture looks fine..WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? I wont be able to thoroughly clean the screen because i just washed the micro fiber cloth so its drying. I havent washed it in years. Can i wait till tomorrow when its dry and i might have distilled water or should i just do it with tap water tonight soon as the cloth dries up?? I am freaking out. Cause lord knows i wont be able to buy another television for at least 5 years. Help frown.gif
post #7549 of 9972
Well hopefully you got most of the windex off with the water+cloth+dish detergent and hopefully the streaks are just from the cloth and soapy water. I would wait until you get some distilled water, give your cloth a good rinse and give it another wipe or two with just distilled water.
post #7550 of 9972
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Originally Posted by Krefly View Post

I don't think anyone here wants to make you feel bad. If anything, we feel bad for you. Posting these experiences will hopefully keep the same thing from happening to someone else.
You saved me! I'm getting my TV next week and I would've totally done the windex thing not knowing you shouldn't. Thank you 100 x. I hate being a noob to this stuff, if I didn't have you guys, I'd have paid $600-700 more for all my cables/hookups/etc... and would've cleaned my tv with windex and probably not broken in my tv properly and would have image burn in all over the place.smile.gif
post #7551 of 9972
This generation of Panasonic plasma screens streak like no other when using any liquid to clean them. What eventually worked for me was RadTech OmniCleanz applied and buffed off with a very low-speed orbital buffer (the actual medium was a super-soft microfiber bonnet with a wool cushion underneath). It was a total PITA finding a combination that didn't leave streaks, and even using the OmniCleanz by hand with microfiber towels left streaks. However, now that it's perfect, I just use a Metro Vacuum ED500 electric duster to blow the dust off of it periodically and it's good to go.
post #7552 of 9972
Hey guys, I'm using the PS3 as a Blu Ray player on a 60ST50 and was wondering which settings I should have on the PS3

I used the movie "Kick Ass" to test out my new TV and noticed some jittery movement in some scenes, does this have something to do with the "24p HDMI" setting in the PS3 menu?
post #7553 of 9972
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Originally Posted by Schwa View Post

This generation of Panasonic plasma screens streak like no other when using any liquid to clean them. What eventually worked for me was RadTech OmniCleanz applied and buffed off with a very low-speed orbital buffer (the actual medium was a super-soft microfiber bonnet with a wool cushion underneath). It was a total PITA finding a combination that didn't leave streaks, and even using the OmniCleanz by hand with microfiber towels left streaks. However, now that it's perfect, I just use a Metro Vacuum ED500 electric duster to blow the dust off of it periodically and it's good to go.
I can only hope that no one that reads this actually thinks that it is ever ok to use an orbital buffer on their tv. It may have worked for you but I think that it is irresponsible to suggest it to the general public. I have been leary to suggest my method because if you are not careful it could cause problems and it is not nearly as controversial as using power equipment and a little known cleaning product that is probably a rip off. I have had absolutely no problems with streaking. If you dry with a microfiber cloth before it has a chance to air dry it will not streak. The reason that you have had such a problem with streaks is because of the product that you are advertising. I have tried several of these LCD screen cleaners in the past and they all caused streaking. It was so bad that I used to use the cleaner first to clean the screen and then come back with water to remove the residue that the cleaner had left. I no longer use those expensive completely unnecessary cleaners. They are a rip off. No wonder that it is a big seller for Monster.
This is the simple OCD method that I use. The only thing you have to be careful about is to make sure that you don't use a sponge that is too wet, is brand new and has been rinsed very well after taken out of the package.
FIRST OF ALL MAKE SURE THE TV IS OFF AND COOL! Do a good job of dusting it.
1) Get a small cellulose hand sponge. The kind that most people was dishes with. You can get them practically anywhere 6 for $2. Take it out of the package and rinse it thoroughly to make sure that there are no fibers from the factory that may scratch the screen.
2) Put about a quarter size amount of laundry detergent in a small bowl and mix with about 4 cups of distilled room temp water.
3) Use the sponge and water mix to wipe the screen in a circular motion just like you would to wash your car. Do about 1/4 of the screen (depending on the size) at a time. Rinse the sponge with tap water and rewet with the solution. Making sure that you squeeze out the excess each time. The sponge should only be damp. Water should NEVER run down the screen. I wipe the whole tv front and back when I do this since I am going through the trouble anyway. The screen will have water spots (not streaks) from the laundry detergent. Don't be discouraged. Pour out the bowl of laundry detergent/water mix. Rinse the bowl and fill with distilled water. Rinse the sponge thoroughly.
4) Get a high quality microfiber cloth. Dampen the sponge in the distilled water and wipe small sections of the screen at a time. Drying immediately with the microfiber cloth. Again wiping in a circular motion. This will remove the water spots and polish the screen.
I smoke cigarettes so I had to find a way to clean my screen from time to time. I do this about every 2 months or so and the screen looks absolutely perfect when I get done. Personally I use filtered tap water. I have one of those faucet mouned PUR water filters. But since everyone doesnt have one of these and water quality varies I suggest distilled water to be safe. Most people will be able to get away with just wiping with a microfiber cloth if you accidently put a fingerprint on it or something. But if you smoke or have children I hope this will be helpful. I have used this method on 4 different tvs over the years. It sounds like a lot more trouble than it really is. It akes me about 30 minutes to clean my 60" front and back. Everyone probably as their own way. This is mine.
Edited by Bond 007 - 12/6/12 at 4:38am
post #7554 of 9972
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

I can only hope that no one that reads this actually thinks that it is ever ok to use an orbital buffer on their tv. It may have worked for you but I think that it is irresponsible to suggest it to the general public. I have been leary to suggest my method because if you are not careful it could cause problems and it is not nearly as controversial as using power equipment and a little known cleaning product that is probably a rip off. I have had absolutely no problems with streaking. If you dry with a microfiber cloth before it has a chance to air dry it will not streak. The reason that you have had such a problem with streaks is because of the product that you are advertising. I have tried several of these LCD screen cleaners in the past and they all caused streaking. It was so bad that I used to use the cleaner first to clean the screen and then come back with water to remove the residue that the cleaner had left. I no longer use those expensive completely unnecessary cleaners. They are a rip off. No wonder that it is a big seller for Monster.
This is the simple OCD method that I use. The only thing you have to be careful about is to make sure that you don't use a sponge that is too wet, is brand new and has been rinsed very well after taken out of the package.
FIRST OF ALL MAKE SURE THE TV IS OFF AND COOL! Do a good job of dusting it.
1) Get a small cellulose hand sponge. The kind that most people was dishes with. You can get them practically anywhere 6 for $2. Take it out of the package and rinse it thoroughly to make sure that there are no fibers from the factory that may scratch the screen.
2) Put about a quarter size amount of laundry detergent in a small bowl and mix with about 4 cups of distilled room temp water.
3) Use the sponge and water mix to wipe the screen in a circular motion just like you would to wash your car. Do about 1/4 of the screen (depending on the size) at a time. Rinse the sponge with tap water and rewet with the solution. Making sure that you squeeze out the excess each time. The sponge should only be damp. Water should NEVER run down the screen. I wipe the whole tv front and back when I do this since I am going through the trouble anyway. The screen will have water spots (not streaks) from the laundry detergent. Don't be discouraged. Pour out the bowl of laundry detergent/water mix. Rinse the bowl and fill with distilled water. Rinse the sponge thoroughly.
4) Get a high quality microfiber cloth. Dampen the sponge in the distilled water and wipe small sections of the screen at a time. Drying immediately with the microfiber cloth. Again wiping in a circular motion. This will remove the water spots and polish the screen.
I smoke cigarettes so I had to find a way to clean my screen from time to time. I do this about every 2 months or so and the screen looks absolutely perfect when I get done. Personally I use filtered tap water. I have one of those faucet mouned PUR water filters. But since everyone doesnt have one of these and water quality varies I suggest distilled water to be safe. Most people will be able to get away with just wiping with a microfiber cloth if you accidently put a fingerprint on it or something. But if you smoke or have children I hope this will be helpful. I have used this method on 4 different tvs over the years. It sounds like a lot more trouble than it really is. It akes me about 30 minutes to clean my 60" front and back. Everyone probably as their own way. This is mine.

I use a brillow pad with good results.
post #7555 of 9972
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Originally Posted by evilaviator View Post

I use a brillow pad with good results.
lol You should go on tour. You are wasting your time as anything other than a comedian.
post #7556 of 9972
So I noticed last night that while watching the 3D channel Comcast provides there is no way to change the panel from 60Hz to 48Hz. I am yet to watch a 3D movie through my BR player, but I am assuming that only 24p 3D movies through a player will allow me to change from 60Hz to 48Hz.

Is this a correct assumption?
post #7557 of 9972
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Originally Posted by GatorRican View Post

So I noticed last night that while watching the 3D channel Comcast provides there is no way to change the panel from 60Hz to 48Hz. I am yet to watch a 3D movie through my BR player, but I am assuming that only 24p 3D movies through a player will allow me to change from 60Hz to 48Hz.
Is this a correct assumption?

...believe there were some comments from CNET about making the switch to 48Hz improved the 3D.
How they did it, I dunno yet (on day 2 here)...
post #7558 of 9972
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Originally Posted by GatorRican View Post

So I noticed last night that while watching the 3D channel Comcast provides there is no way to change the panel from 60Hz to 48Hz. I am yet to watch a 3D movie through my BR player, but I am assuming that only 24p 3D movies through a player will allow me to change from 60Hz to 48Hz.
Is this a correct assumption?

Yes that is correct you don't have the option on tv since it is 60hz only, blue ray can be 48hz or 60hz depending on which you like better.
post #7559 of 9972
I got the Panasonic TC-P55ST50 on 12-4, delivered by "one" guy from CEVA and after checking for damage I got it running the slides.
post #7560 of 9972
Anybody else notice a slight hesitation or lag when motion smoothing is on (50st50)?
I thought the 2500 FFD would help in this area?
Otherwise, with the option on, the picture looks a bit odd, maybe too life like? tongue.gif
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