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post #7621 of 9972
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Originally Posted by nathan_h View Post

Take into account the fact that each person's hearing can vary quite dramatically, especially at higher frequencies.
It may be completely normal for there to be a buzz for people with good hearing in a quiet room.
I think the efforts of some posters to use a sound level meter is the right way to go. If you don't have a sound level meter, you can probably download an app for that (I know there are free ones for the iphone and suspect there are some for android phones, too). Download the app, and measure buzz from a measured distance away, as well as the background sound level in your room when the TV is completely off, and share your results. That will let people know objectively what you are hearing, and help compare with others.

Good idea about the SPL.
post #7622 of 9972
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Originally Posted by Freddyknuckles View Post

I have even read articles on a couple of different sites claiming the slides can do damage to the new plasmas. I have no idea how credible that is.
Don't really see how that's possible. Do you have any links for these articles?
post #7623 of 9972
Running D-Nice slides and its weird sonetimes the picture shifts to the right a pixel line or 2 (so maybe 2-3 rows of black more on left side than right side). Is thay normal? Kinda freaking me out... also kind of wondering if I should do the slides. PQ does look insanely good as it is but scuurrred tongue.gif
post #7624 of 9972
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Originally Posted by JayFiveAlive View Post

Running D-Nice slides and its weird sonetimes the picture shifts to the right a pixel line or 2 (so maybe 2-3 rows of black more on left side than right side). Is thay normal? Kinda freaking me out... also kind of wondering if I should do the slides. PQ does look insanely good as it is but scuurrred tongue.gif
Make sure the pixel orbiter is off under Menu>Setup>Anti image retention. It should say Disable.
post #7625 of 9972
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Make sure the pixel orbiter is off under Menu>Setup>Anti image retention. It should say Disable.

For D Nices slides he says to leave on all defaults tho. Should I still turn that off?
post #7626 of 9972
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Originally Posted by nathan_h View Post

Turn off 24p on your blu ray player, and confirm the tv is set to 60hz.

The option is set at 60 but is dimmed out.

I just noticed it does it during regular cable viewing as well.
post #7627 of 9972
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Make sure the pixel orbiter is off under Menu>Setup>Anti image retention. It should say Disable.

Thanks disabled it. Dnice didnt mention that! Thank you for pointing that out. No more shifting and all is well smile.gif
post #7628 of 9972


So over the past month, I have noticed in the bottom middle of my screen 3 rows of grey rectangles, have no idea what movie or game could cause this? It looks like a burn-in. I watch TV for a few hours on Netflix or play games on my Xbox, and my Brother watches cable, that's it. I took a picture for you guys to see it, any way to get rid of it? It's a bit annoying and while currently as of now watching Breaking Bad, I can see it in some scenes...
post #7629 of 9972
I don't see anything but a moire pattern in that picture.
post #7630 of 9972
Right below the music, you see the grey rectangles?
post #7631 of 9972
Can anybody here please check for me if the ST50 has an option to ALWAYS output stereo PCM instead of Dolby from digital toslink audio out? If not in the standard menu, can you guys also please check the hidden service menu? Thanks.
post #7632 of 9972
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Originally Posted by DominicoBalogini View Post

Can anybody here please check for me if the ST50 has an option to ALWAYS output stereo PCM instead of Dolby from digital toslink audio out? If not in the standard menu, can you guys also please check the hidden service menu? Thanks.
Nope the ST50 does not have such an option, it can only output Dolby digital on the toslink audio output.
If you want to connect a headphone you need to get a optical to stereo RCA adaptor that accepts dolby digital format.
post #7633 of 9972
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Originally Posted by BriscoCountyJr View Post

Nope the ST50 does not have such an option, it can only output Dolby digital on the toslink audio output.
If you want to connect a headphone you need to get a optical to stereo RCA adaptor that accepts dolby digital format.

But how do you set the volume then? When optical out is used, standard volume controls on the TV do not work, do they?
post #7634 of 9972
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Originally Posted by KinkyKupcakes View Post



So over the past month, I have noticed in the bottom middle of my screen 3 rows of grey rectangles, have no idea what movie or game could cause this? It looks like a burn-in. I watch TV for a few hours on Netflix or play games on my Xbox, and my Brother watches cable, that's it. I took a picture for you guys to see it, any way to get rid of it? It's a bit annoying and while currently as of now watching Breaking Bad, I can see it in some scenes...

Looks rather nasty, like burn in letters, but too high for subtitles. I have no idea what could cause this. Have you got orbiter turned on and to clean it with some pixel shifter?
post #7635 of 9972
My 55st50 has awful IR. I have over 150 hours on it and really babied it. I used the program guide which has big white letters at the top right. I mean you only use the guide a few minutes at a time, but I now have the word bell I can see with light colored background. It has faded but I am afraid to use the guide again for some time. I find any white lettering to really linger. I hope it gets better.

I have been using a pixel flipper and that seems to help the most. That built in scrubber does nothing for me.
post #7636 of 9972
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Originally Posted by kraken79 View Post

Looks rather nasty, like burn in letters, but too high for subtitles. I have no idea what could cause this. Have you got orbiter turned on and to clean it with some pixel shifter?

Yeah, if you look closely, you can see about 4 rows of it, it doesn't look like it could be subtitles, the subtitles from Netflix are yellow. I bought the TV back in September too from Best Buy. And I don't know what an orbiter is or does? Is there a setting in the menu for calibration to turn it on? I have noticed some burn-in from like playing Borderlands back when it came out or on tv, but it always went away. This just seems to linger...
post #7637 of 9972
I have had a few 2012 panasonics. 1 vt50 that had bad blobs/ vertical bands and Panasonic replaced it. Next vt50 had a brighter dot on the screen and a vertical band on the right side. I went to an st50 now and it initially looked ok but now it looks like bad DSE or something. They are darker kind of vertical bands/smudges which extend out from the centre almost top to bottom. Anyone else have pretty bad DSE on their st50's?? I didn't see it right away but now seems to be all over the screen almost. I am getting tired of exchanging these things. Plus this one buzzes pretty good too. Can hear it from around 15ft away when whites are on the screen. Also has the trademark right side band too. It's kind of embarrassing having to keep exchanging these too cause the store starts to think your nuts or something. Thanks
post #7638 of 9972
What is DSE? Your not crazy l'm on my third.
Edited by Frank Spizzirri - 12/9/12 at 5:48pm
post #7639 of 9972
This is from another thread in this forum about what DSE is:

It can be caused by

1) Actual physical residue on the outer screen (clean it carefully)

2) Uneven phosphor uniformity (this will dramatically improve with time)

3) Uneven application of AR filter/residue on the inside of the screen (probably the most common causes, and sadly, there is no remedy short of a panel replacement)




For me it seems like the AR filter/coating but will see if it improves or gets worse.
post #7640 of 9972
Frank, what problems have you been running into with these Panasonic TV's??
post #7641 of 9972
Hmm I don't think I have DSE at least not yet. First set was a buzzer, I could hear for my kitchen 30 feet away. Next I had a bright spot 10 inches from the top at the middle. It was the size of a silver dollar and very noticeable. This one has stubborn quick set ir. Seems to be fading but I am still quite worried. I am pleased with the picture quality but not sure about quality control. I hope this baby settles soon because like you, I am starting to question my sanity.
post #7642 of 9972
hey could use a little info from an owner. thought I was sold on the gt 50 but since they are more or less equal in terms of PQ, i am exploring the ST. I think what drew me to the GT were the 2 THX modes: Bright and Cinema.

My question is, can I have 2 modes I use on an ST that I've configured for 'day time/bright' and another for cinema/night so I can easily switch between both? This is primarily why I was thinking gt so I can switch between the two THX modes easily and they stay in the system. will my settings persist on teh set so I can freely switch twice a day?

also, I presume that I can configure the ST for equal to or close to the THX modes for bright and cinema without a pro calibration?
post #7643 of 9972
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Originally Posted by nathan_h View Post

Take into account the fact that each person's hearing can vary quite dramatically, especially at higher frequencies.
It may be completely normal for there to be a buzz for people with good hearing in a quiet room.
I think the efforts of some posters to use a sound level meter is the right way to go. If you don't have a sound level meter, you can probably download an app for that (I know there are free ones for the iphone and suspect there are some for android phones, too). Download the app, and measure buzz from a measured distance away, as well as the background sound level in your room when the TV is completely off, and share your results. That will let people know objectively what you are hearing, and help compare with others.
Yes, good suggestion. But both my wife and daughter can hear the buzzing so that removes some of the variability in individual hearing differences. Also, regardless of what the Db is, it still bothers me. Again, not noticeable most of the time but when it is noticeable, like from a dark-to-bright scene transition and low or no sound (which does happen naturally in movies, not just by me turning the volume down), it is bothersome. I'm going to call Panasonic tomorrow to see if I can arrange for a tech to come and check it out.
post #7644 of 9972
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Originally Posted by swizzchard View Post

hey could use a little info from an owner. thought I was sold on the gt 50 but since they are more or less equal in terms of PQ, i am exploring the ST. I think what drew me to the GT were the 2 THX modes: Bright and Cinema.
My question is, can I have 2 modes I use on an ST that I've configured for 'day time/bright' and another for cinema/night so I can easily switch between both? This is primarily why I was thinking gt so I can switch between the two THX modes easily and they stay in the system. will my settings persist on teh set so I can freely switch twice a day?
also, I presume that I can configure the ST for equal to or close to the THX modes for bright and cinema without a pro calibration?

The ST50 has presets of Vivid, Standard, Cinema, Game, and Custom. Of those, Custom is the only one that can be customized separately for each individual input. The rest exist across all inputs. So if you only plan to use 2 inputs, you could have a Custom setting for each, and then Perhaps use Standard as the alternate preset for one input and Cinema as the alternate preset on another. So it's certainly doable, but if you plan to use 3 or more inputs and want 2 presets for each, it's not going to work very well.
post #7645 of 9972
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Originally Posted by Hermolicious84 View Post

The ST50 has presets of Vivid, Standard, Cinema, Game, and Custom. Of those, Custom is the only one that can be customized separately for each individual input. The rest exist across all inputs. So if you only plan to use 2 inputs, you could have a Custom setting for each, and then Perhaps use Standard as the alternate preset for one input and Cinema as the alternate preset on another. So it's certainly doable, but if you plan to use 3 or more inputs and want 2 presets for each, it's not going to work very well.

I hadn't considered input variations, purely only a day setting and a night setting, perhaps using blackops or dnice for night and a little brighter side for day.

How relevant is that on a 'per input' basis if I run everything through my AVR with a single HDMI?
post #7646 of 9972
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Originally Posted by Frank Spizzirri View Post

My 55st50 has awful IR. I have over 150 hours on it .... the program guide which has big white letters at the top right. .... you only use the guide a few minutes at a time, but I now have the word bell I can see with light colored background. It has faded but I am afraid to use the guide again for some time. I find any white lettering to really linger. I hope it gets better.
......

Most people only use a MENU or (TV) GUIDE for a short period of time - at any one time: but these can be used Repeatedly during an evening of "normal TV viewing."

As appears to be the case with your set, that Repeated Usage of the (Uverse) GUIDE function left medium-duration IR on our 60ST50 - until the panel had aged PAST 400 hours usage.
(Change was gradual, not a "magical event" that took place at precisely 400 hours - that just happened to be about the usage where I first noticed an improvement in IR Onset / Duration.)

Haven't bothered to check hours of usage for a while, but would guess we are in the neighborhood of 1500 hours, and GUIDE usage no longer leaves visible IR (that I've noticed...).
Static Logos - ESPN, FOX Sports, History 2 Channel - will still leave IR (after sufficient on-screen time), but it is LESS visible than pre-400 hours, AND of Short-Duration, dissipating readily given normal program content, often in a matter of minutes.

Hopefully your set will follow this trend....
post #7647 of 9972
Hoping to get some feedback and suggestions before I pull the trigger. I've done a lot of research and am leaning heavily toward the TC-P50ST50 to replace my 2006 Sony KDL-40XBR2 that is starting to develop a blue cancer line, lol.

My ONLY concern is that the TV is in a very bright room (a lot of windows and light throughout the day). How does the TC-P50ST50 do in bright rooms? Should I avoid this set (and plasmas altogether) and find a comparable LCD set?

TIA
post #7648 of 9972
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Originally Posted by SoIcanSearch View Post

Hoping to get some feedback and suggestions before I pull the trigger. I've done a lot of research and am leaning heavily toward the TC-P50ST50 to replace my 2006 Sony KDL-40XBR2 that is starting to develop a blue cancer line, lol.
My ONLY concern is that the TV is in a very bright room (a lot of windows and light throughout the day). How does the TC-P50ST50 do in bright rooms? Should I avoid this set (and plasmas altogether) and find a comparable LCD set?
TIA
The ST does much better than most plasmas in a moderately lit room because of the filter and excels in a dimly lit room. But if you have a brightly lit room and watch a lot of tv during the day your best bet would be an LED.
post #7649 of 9972
Don't know if this means anything to anybody, but Panasonic swapped my 55ST50 that I bought in April of this year with a brand new unit built in November of this year. I too had IR issues with my original unit(that eventually broke) that do not occur as easily as they do on my new unit. Panasonic also was very quick to completely replace my unit without even attempting a repair or asking questions. I was extremely thrilled with their customer support, but it makes me wonder if there is a known issue with the early batch of these televisions.
post #7650 of 9972
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Originally Posted by gh0stpw View Post

Don't know if this means anything to anybody, but Panasonic swapped my 55ST50 that I bought in April of this year with a brand new unit built in November of this year. I too had IR issues with my original unit(that eventually broke) that do not occur as easily as they do on my new unit. Panasonic also was very quick to completely replace my unit without even attempting a repair or asking questions. I was extremely thrilled with their customer support, but it makes me wonder if there is a known issue with the early batch of these televisions.
Mine is March and I have had no issues. I have been following this thread since June and it seems random to me.
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