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post #8131 of 9471
1/3/13 at 7:56am
i wasn't aware of that. Is there somewhere else i can get good custom calibrations?

i just found these from Cnet:

http://forums.cnet.com/7723-19410_102-559444/panasonic-tc-p55st50-picture-settings/?tag=contentBody;threadListing

they are different than the other i posted above - would this be a more reliable source?


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post #8132 of 9471
1/3/13 at 8:15am
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I don't think this issue will be fixed by panasonic. The owners of bdp-210 could probably chime on this. The ST50 has entered EOL (End Of Life) and considering this issue has not been the hottest topic on this thread it would be even a less priority for panasonic. I still wish panasonic would fix my 2011 TV that does not correctly display a Standard Definition 16x9 OTA signal; it displays all SD OTA signal in the 4x3 format. It is the little things that drives us all up the walls. I was disappointed that a brand name TV could not adhere to basic ATSC standards.
What does this EOL status mean?

EOL for xxST50 models or EOL for any future xxSTx0 models?
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post #8133 of 9471
1/3/13 at 10:24am
Proud owner of a new 55ST50. Did not run any D-Nice slides but used his reference settings to do the initial dial-in. So far, I have been very happy with it since I got my cable upgraded to HD. SD looks a little lacking, but did not expect to look very good on the large screen. Didn't realize how many TV stations have the stupid logos in the corners until I was watching on the plasma. I did have slight IR after watching a 2 hour movie with a logo and then going to another program. But, after running the Anti-IR scrolling bar it has vanished.
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post #8134 of 9471
1/3/13 at 11:47am
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If you want to age it, I would still recommend that you use the slides. It's just simpler. Put them on a flash drive or SD card...set the slideshow to repeat. You'll also get a a full field, uniform image to put those first 100-200 on on it. There is no advantage to using a method of running movies instead.

Yes, I know... but still... is it OK for me to have the TV running in zoomed in movies? Nothing's gonna happen to it if I age it that way right?

It's fine, but my concern would be something causing the movie to pause or stop while you were not monitoring it. The slides would be safer in regards to leaving it unattended for a period of time.
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post #8135 of 9471
1/3/13 at 2:12pm
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What does this EOL status mean?
EOL for xxST50 models or EOL for any future xxSTx0 models?

I believe what he means is that the ST50 is no longer being built. Production normally stops around the end of November so Panasonic can ramp up production for the next model. There are few, if any, firmware changes after that.
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post #8136 of 9471
1/4/13 at 6:14am
EOL = End Of Life
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post #8137 of 9471
1/4/13 at 10:46am
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Originally Posted by lorism View Post

i wasn't aware of that. Is there somewhere else i can get good custom calibrations?
i just found these from Cnet:
http://forums.cnet.com/7723-19410_102-559444/panasonic-tc-p55st50-picture-settings/?tag=contentBody;threadListing
they are different than the other i posted above - would this be a more reliable source?
thanks

I use the CNET settings and have no issues. Try both sttings and see what your preference is.
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post #8138 of 9471
1/4/13 at 11:10am
Hi Folks,

I have just bought a Panasonic 50" ST50B. Could someone please post the optimal picture settings for this please?

Thanks!

Conor
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post #8139 of 9471
1/4/13 at 12:44pm
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Hi Folks,
I have just bought a Panasonic 50" ST50B. Could someone please post the optimal picture settings for this please?
Thanks!
Conor

Welcome to AVS, Conor!!!

There are posts at the beginning of this thread that list how to "break-in" your TV as well as suggested picture settings for both "seasoned" ( broken in TV with slides, images,etc) and "virgin" ( new TV not broken in) sets.........although I don't know if there is any difference between your 50ST50B sold outside the USA and the 50ST50 version sold here..........someone else on this forum might pop up to answer that:rolleyes:
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post #8140 of 9471
1/4/13 at 1:16pm
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Originally Posted by Iain- View Post

What does this EOL status mean?
EOL for xxST50 models or EOL for any future xxSTx0 models?

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Originally Posted by weedeater View Post

I believe what he means is that the ST50 is no longer being built. Production normally stops around the end of November so Panasonic can ramp up production for the next model. There are few, if any, firmware changes after that.

Thanks for the information; that makes more sense. At least we can look forward to upcoming xxST60.

BTW, my new 50ST50 was delivered a few hours ago. What a beauty! biggrin.gif
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post #8141 of 9471
1/4/13 at 2:57pm
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EOL = End Of Life

In my industry it means End Of Line (end of production for that lineup).
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post #8142 of 9471
1/4/13 at 3:08pm
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Hi Folks, I have just bought a Panasonic 50" ST50B. Could someone please post the optimal picture settings for this please? Thanks! Conor

Presuming your TV "B" suffix means a British model, none of the settings posted here on AVS will apply to yours because our USA models have completely different settings menus than UK/Euro models and none of our settings will pertain to your model.

Check out the UK based AVForums: http://www.avforums.com/forums/plasma-tvs/
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post #8143 of 9471
1/5/13 at 5:30am
I just ordered the TC-P65ST50 today...

I cant wait..

But there are some things that make me nervous..

I read that the screen is not that bright and there is alot of glare(reflections from light in the screen)..

I hope it isnt that bad..

Lets wait and see...
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post #8144 of 9471
1/5/13 at 6:45am
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I just ordered the TC-P65ST50 today...

I cant wait..

But there are some things that make me nervous..

I read that the screen is not that bright and there is alot of glare(reflections from light in the screen)..

I hope it isnt that bad..

Lets wait and see...

Where did you hear that? The ST50 can get extremely bright.
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post #8145 of 9471
1/5/13 at 7:38am
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Originally Posted by HD-Master View Post

Where did you hear that? The ST50 can get extremely bright.

I read that on some forums..

But we will see..

Ps how is the 3d on this tv?

Is not that important for me because i use a dedecated ht room with a epson tw9000 for 3d.

But i like to know your opinion on that..

I hope i will get the st50 soon:)
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post #8146 of 9471
1/5/13 at 8:21am
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Originally Posted by john2910 View Post

I read that on some forums..
But we will see..
Ps how is the 3d on this tv?
Is not that important for me because i use a dedecated ht room with a epson tw9000 for 3d.
But i like to know your opinion on that..
I hope i will get the st50 soon:)

I am looking into the ST50 and played with a couple at the local stores and brightness doesn't seem to be an issue in any way. I cranked them up in brightness and they were both perfectly fine in how bright they were and the one was by the entrance doors where there is exterior light. They don't get as bright as the LED-LCDs, but then again, when you crank up the brightness on those all the way, you might as well be staring at the sun with the crazy amount of light output they put out....it's totally unnecessary.

Glare on the other hand is pretty much inevitable with any TV in my opinion. You either have it or you don't...and if you do, you have to find ways to mitigate it. Even matte screens will show diffused blobs of glare if it's pronounced enough. With that being said, I was interested in that as well when looking at the ST50, and I stood in front of it and moved my phone in front of it to see how "reflective" the screen was while displaying content and I thought it did an outstanding job with the filters this TV has. I checked in a normally lit area inside the store and I couldn't even see myself and my phone's screen was even hard to locate, so hats off to Panasonic on great light filtering technology.

I didn't get a chance to really evaluate the 3D for a long time, and I don't have much experience with 3D, but it was better than some of the headache inducing passive 3D sets I looked at. The 3D imagery was quite nice and distinct. The only real negative is that the glasses(not the TV), will make the picture a bit dimmer and darker. I suspect if you play with the settings and up the brightness during 3D viewing, you could lessen that effect.
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post #8147 of 9471
1/5/13 at 9:15am
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I am looking into the ST50 and played with a couple at the local stores and brightness doesn't seem to be an issue in any way. I cranked them up in brightness and they were both perfectly fine in how bright they were and the one was by the entrance doors where there is exterior light. They don't get as bright as the LED-LCDs, but then again, when you crank up the brightness on those all the way, you might as well be staring at the sun with the crazy amount of light output they put out....it's totally unnecessary.
Glare on the other hand is pretty much inevitable with any TV in my opinion. You either have it or you don't...and if you do, you have to find ways to mitigate it. Even matte screens will show diffused blobs of glare if it's pronounced enough. With that being said, I was interested in that as well when looking at the ST50, and I stood in front of it and moved my phone in front of it to see how "reflective" the screen was while displaying content and I thought it did an outstanding job with the filters this TV has. I checked in a normally lit area inside the store and I couldn't even see myself and my phone's screen was even hard to locate, so hats off to Panasonic on great light filtering technology.
I didn't get a chance to really evaluate the 3D for a long time, and I don't have much experience with 3D, but it was better than some of the headache inducing passive 3D sets I looked at. The 3D imagery was quite nice and distinct. The only real negative is that the glasses(not the TV), will make the picture a bit dimmer and darker. I suspect if you play with the settings and up the brightness during 3D viewing, you could lessen that effect.

Do you mean contrast instead of brightness? Brightness controls the black levels, contrast controls the whites. Anyway, 3d on this TV is pretty good IMO, but I recommend the Panasonic active glasses designed for this set. I tried another brand and was not happy, but the pannys work well and sync up in seconds with good battery life.
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post #8148 of 9471
1/5/13 at 1:09pm
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i wasn't aware of that. Is there somewhere else i can get good custom calibrations?
i just found these from Cnet:
http://forums.cnet.com/7723-19410_102-559444/panasonic-tc-p55st50-picture-settings/?tag=contentBody;threadListing
they are different than the other i posted above - would this be a more reliable source?
thanks
You can try my settings: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1397245/official-panasonic-st50-series-discussion-thread-no-street-price-talk/4560#post_22281548
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post #8149 of 9471
1/5/13 at 1:37pm
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You can try my settings: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1397245/official-panasonic-st50-series-discussion-thread-no-street-price-talk/4560#post_22281548

Hello there are those settings safe on a brand new st50 plasma?

So that i dont get burn in..
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post #8150 of 9471
1/5/13 at 5:44pm
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You can try my settings: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1397245/official-panasonic-st50-series-discussion-thread-no-street-price-talk/4560#post_22281548

Hello there are those settings safe on a brand new st50 plasma?

So that i dont get burn in..
Short terminology note:

What you might notice is image retention (IR) which as the term indicates is a temporary condition which is hard to detect unless you watch full screen monochrome color slides of various colors. Burn-in takes a lot of extra effort and bad behavior and is hard to come by. Once there is burn-in it will not go away.

Any reasonable settings are fine. The main reason for IR is spending too much time with the same source that has a high contrast fixed image on the screen. If you watch a wide variety of source material and don't become paranoid about examining your screen with color slides, you won't have any serious problem with IR. All you have to do to get rid of IR is use your TV wisely and be patient. biggrin.gif
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post #8151 of 9471
1/5/13 at 8:30pm
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Hello there are those settings safe on a brand new st50 plasma?
So that i dont get burn in..
No problem at all. Just do as htwaits said.
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post #8152 of 9471
1/5/13 at 10:04pm
Yeah they won't fix the st50 but what about next years model? This seems to me like a pretty big screw up, not being able to watch netflix, especially since they feature it. Can anyone explain why my son's HD cartoons on netflicks look amazing and do not seem to flicker? While most of the things I watch have the flicker? For example tv show... Once upon a time. I also tried playing through my Panasonic Blu ray dmp-bdt220 just a few shows the pic seemed like lower quality, maybe even a little "jumpy" i think what some call the "soap opera effect" though I am not exactly sure what that means/is BUT no blinking, go figure. I need some more experimentation but right now it is pretty disappointing....
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post #8153 of 9471
1/5/13 at 10:10pm
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Originally Posted by jhck66 View Post

I don't think this issue will be fixed by panasonic. The owners of bdp-210 could probably chime on this. The ST50 has entered EOL (End Of Life) and considering this issue has not been the hottest topic on this thread it would be even a lesser priority for panasonic. I still wish panasonic would fix my 2011 TV that does not correctly display a Standard Definition 16x9 OTA signal; it displays all SD OTA signal in the 4x3 format. It is the little things that drives us all up the walls. I was disappointed that a brand name TV could not adhere to basic ATSC standards.
Yeah they won't fix the st50 but what about next years model? This seems to me like a pretty big screw up, not being able to watch netflix, especially since they feature it. Can anyone explain why my son's HD cartoons on netflicks look amazing and do not seem to flicker? While most of the things I watch have the flicker? For example tv show... Once upon a time. I also tried playing through my Panasonic Blu ray dmp-bdt220 just a few shows the pic seemed like lower quality, maybe even a little "jumpy" i think what some call the "soap opera effect" though I am not exactly sure what that means/is BUT no blinking, go figure. I need some more experimentation but right now it is pretty disappointing....
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post #8154 of 9471
1/6/13 at 4:55am
I'm noticing line bleed more as well as some flickering associated with it. In the movie "The Muppets" (2011) when Kermit is on stage in front of the deep red curtains, whenever his mouth opens to talk I see this horizontal flicker across the curtains. And in the blu-ray movie "Up", in the beginning when Carl, as a kid, first meets Ellie in her clubhouse, when he's on the plank trying to get his balloon, horizontal lines stretch out from the rims of his eyeglasses, which are really noticeable when he moves his head about. It kind of flickers when his head is moving. I noticed this in other scenes throughout Up, but it was dependent on background color and/or brightness.

I watched "The Muppets" on my other plasma and couldn't see the line bleed/flicker on the curtains.

For reference, I ran D-nice's 100 hr panel prep slides and input his Reference Settings. I did notice that the line bleed effect is slightly less noticeable if I lowered Gamma to 2.4, but at the expense of poorer picture quality.

Here's an image I drew in paint to show the effect from Carl's eyeglasses (when he's in the old wooden house)



***IF ANYONE HAS THE MOVIE "UP" AND/OR "THE MUPPETS" I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IT IF YOU WOULD CHECK THE SCENES I MENTIONED TO SEE IF YOU SEE WHAT I DESCRIBED***
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post #8155 of 9471
1/6/13 at 5:52am
anyone care to share some good sound settings ? im having trouble to find optimal settings.
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post #8156 of 9471
1/6/13 at 6:00am
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anyone care to share some good sound settings ? im having trouble to find optimal settings.

You're having trouble finding optimal settings because the built in speakers are far from optimal. tongue.gif Seriously, look at how thin the speaker strip on the bottom is. Can't expect much from that. I left everything default. In my experience with Panasonic plasma built in speakers any added effect makes things worse. imo, better to leave everything default, which is usually no effects added.

I heard the 55ST50's speakers one time and knew I had to upgrade.
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post #8157 of 9471
1/6/13 at 7:17am
Hello there

I heard its better to set the tv on 48hz when you play 3d..

Then the crosstalk is less...

Somebody agree on here..

And i heard that 3d3 glasses also reduce crosstalk..

I have also some xpand 104 maybe they give less crosstalk to?
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post #8158 of 9471
1/6/13 at 8:56am
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Originally Posted by john2910 View Post

Hello there
I heard its better to set the tv on 48hz when you play 3d..
Then the crosstalk is less...
Somebody agree on here..
And i heard that 3d3 glasses also reduce crosstalk..
I have also some xpand 104 maybe they give less crosstalk to?
I read the same thing and compared 48hz versus 60hz for myself. I could perceive no improvements in the 3D; the only difference to me was that 48hz required shutting off every light in the house and boarding up the windows as every source of light other than the television becomes a strobe through the glasses at 48hz.
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post #8159 of 9471
1/6/13 at 9:00am
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Originally Posted by Hermolicious84 View Post

I don't think you would be getting the power up flash unless there was a signal successfully being transmitted from the SNES to your TV. It sounds like the issue is with your SNES. Have you tried it with another TV?

Just in case anyone was interested, yes, the SNES works on a normal CRT. I will probably go ahead and buy the composite to HDMI converter on Amazon.
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post #8160 of 9471
1/6/13 at 9:26am
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Originally Posted by Spanbauer View Post

I read the same thing and compared 48hz versus 60hz for myself. I could perceive no improvements in the 3D; the only difference to me was that 48hz required shutting off every light in the house and boarding up the windows as every source of light other than the television becomes a strobe through the glasses at 48hz.

Thx the information....

I will forget about 3d then on this device....
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