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post #8221 of 9972
Once the display breaks in more, any phosphor trailing you might be seeing should diminish a bit. I noticed this on my 65ST30, but it did subside a little after 500 hours or so. Yeah, I can still see it once in a great while with a very bright moving object on a black background, but it's really a non issue. Remember, no display is perfect and switching to an LED will only expose you to different issues - some of which you may find more objectionable.
post #8222 of 9972
Can anyone please direct me where I can find some decent 3D settings while I watch this national title football game? Would be much appreciated. Finally dusting the ol 3D glasses off
post #8223 of 9972
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Originally Posted by DavidHir View Post

Once the display breaks in more, any phosphor trailing you might be seeing should diminish a bit. I noticed this on my 65ST30, but it did subside a little after 500 hours or so. Yeah, I can still see it once in a great while with a very bright moving object on a black background, but it's really a non issue. Remember, no display is perfect and switching to an LED will only expose you to different issues - some of which you may find more objectionable.

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Originally Posted by Schwa View Post

I see the same thing from time to time but it's not nearly intrusive enough for me to want to switch to an LCD TV. I guess it depends how sensitive you are to the effect.

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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

Your discovering that you can see a plasma phenomenon that few people can see. If you have a return period use that is see if the effects minimize over time. Otherwise do what ever you can to switch back to LCD. There were a small percentage of people who had a similar problem with DLP projection systems. A few of those people got used to their displays or front projectors by slowing down head and eye movement.

Thanks all - nice to know that instead of manipulating magnetic fields or shooting fire I was lucky enough to be able to spot phosphor trails. The image is fantastic so I'm going to stick with it and hope that either I get used to it or the effect lessens as the panel ages. I returned a Samsung LED because of washed-out colors and a razor-narrow viewing angle, so I don't think I can go back.
post #8224 of 9972
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Originally Posted by john2910 View Post

Has everbody has this IR problem with this tv?
I begin to regret my order....frown.gif
Maybe i can cancel my order...
Its was ment to replace my old philips ambilight plasma wich never had any IR..And the tv is sometimes 12 hours a day on with a still standing logo....
Maybe i must go for a led tv:eek:

I have had for over a month and have never had a problem with IR. I ran slides (mostly overnight) but also watched different content (tv w/ antenna, netflix, letterboxed stuff) during first 100 -200 hrs baby it a bit but not overly. Kept contrast and brightness down and after a week even let my son and wife hook the xbox up and have at it.
post #8225 of 9972
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Originally Posted by Iain- View Post

Actually, you can have it both ways (TV and home cinema 5.1 audio) if your AVR supports HDMI-CEC option to do so. Mine does (Denon AVR-3313). I also use a Harmony One as well and have separate activities for this.
For those times when all I want to do is watch TV and not be bothered of HC, I use TV (50ST50) speakers. Other times I may want full DD 5.1; it's there if I want it. This saves AVR from wear and tear, which was probably the reason my previous AVR (AVR-3310) died prematurely after only 3 years and 4 months of use.
My findings over the past few days of use is 50ST50 audio is quite acceptable. Much better than previous TV.



Appreciate the replies from everyone.

I guess the best thing to do would just be to play around with the EQ settings till i find what suits me.

But i am curious as to how others have set these EQ settings when using the ST50's built-in speakers?
post #8226 of 9972
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/108564/P55ST50.mov

I'm trying to connect my Macbook Pro to my ST50 via a HDMI to Mini Display port cord but this is what I get. This occurs when I have the resolution set at "Best for display" or 1080p. It works fine when I set it to 1080i or lower but not 1080p. Does anyone know how I can fix this? Any input would be greatly appreciated.
post #8227 of 9972
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Originally Posted by Iain- View Post

Actually, you can have it both ways (TV and home cinema 5.1 audio) if your AVR supports HDMI-CEC option to do so. Mine does (Denon AVR-3313). I also use a Harmony One as well and have separate activities for this.
For those times when all I want to do is watch TV and not be bothered of HC, I use TV (50ST50) speakers. Other times I may want full DD 5.1; it's there if I want it. This saves AVR from wear and tear, which was probably the reason my previous AVR (AVR-3310) died prematurely after only 3 years and 4 months of use.
My findings over the past few days of use is 50ST50 audio is quite acceptable. Much better than previous TV.
I have my system set up the same way. Yamaha receiver and Logitech 650. CEC is completely unnecessary to achieve this.
post #8228 of 9972
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

If you want to leave a logo on for 12 hours a day, NO plasma is for you.

But i have a plasma now and dont have any IR;)

Even its on for 12 hours....
post #8229 of 9972
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Originally Posted by john2910 View Post

But i have a plasma now and dont have any IR;)
Even its on for 12 hours....
Then I would suggest another old philips ambilight.
post #8230 of 9972
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Then I would suggest another old philips ambilight.

Thx for the reply.

Okay i will see if i can still change my order:(
post #8231 of 9972
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Originally Posted by MetalMX23 View Post

Appreciate the replies from everyone.
I guess the best thing to do would just be to play around with the EQ settings till i find what suits me.
But i am curious as to how others have set these EQ settings when using the ST50's built-in speakers?

I'm interested in this as well. When I made my comment about the sub-par internal speakers I wasn't aware that the ST50 had EQ settings. Live and learn.

While I intend to use an external speaker setup, it would be nice to optimize sound output of the internal speakers for when I use them.

*These EQ settings are for the American version too, right? I can't remember if Metal's set was AU, UK, or US.
post #8232 of 9972
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Originally Posted by p3Orion View Post

I'm interested in this as well. When I made my comment about the sub-par internal speakers I wasn't aware that the ST50 had EQ settings. Live and learn.
While I intend to use an external speaker setup, it would be nice to optimize sound output of the internal speakers for when I use them.
*These EQ settings are for the American version too, right? I can't remember if Metal's set was AU, UK, or US.
Not for NA. He said Australia.
post #8233 of 9972
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Not for NA. He said Australia.

Yeah that's what I thought he said, but wasn't sure. Plus I didn't see any advanced options when I looked at sound settings. Plain vanilla for American sets then, lol.
post #8234 of 9972
My ST50's screen has accumulated some dust particles. What's a good microfiber cloth to wipe the screen with? I have a few that I bought from an automotive store as well as a fine lens cleaner microfiber cloth, but they need replacement. I use the automotive store cloths to wipe the back and the softer lens cleaner cloth to wipe the screen

I found these two:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/374562-REG/Nikon_8072_Micro_Fiber_Lens_Cleaning_Cloth.html
http://www.amazon.com/CASABELLA-Microfiber-Plasma-Screen-Cloth/dp/B002OOR62A
post #8235 of 9972
I have the European Model the TX-p50st50E.
And wen I set my PS3 to RGB Full over HDMI my TV does not change to Full range 0-255 mode, showing darker image and crushed blacks. It should change to the correct range automatically.
The European model doesn't have the HDMI Range menu to select manually it only has the DVI input settings that only appear wen I connect the PC with an DVI-HDMI cable our adapter, then i can select normal or Full, wen i select Full the TV goes to 0-255 mode and the image looks great. His their any way I can trick the TV to switch to 0-255 range our is their a service menu option that lets you select the default HDMI Range.
Thanks.
post #8236 of 9972
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Originally Posted by p3Orion View Post

My ST50's screen has accumulated some dust particles. What's a good microfiber cloth to wipe the screen with? I have a few that I bought from an automotive store as well as a fine lens cleaner microfiber cloth, but they need replacement. I use the automotive store cloths to wipe the back and the softer lens cleaner cloth to wipe the screen
I found these two:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/374562-REG/Nikon_8072_Micro_Fiber_Lens_Cleaning_Cloth.html
http://www.amazon.com/CASABELLA-Microfiber-Plasma-Screen-Cloth/dp/B002OOR62A
The Casabella looks like a fine cloth. Either one would probably do. I have bought many different kinds over the years. The best I have found are these:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0050R66X8/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00
Just for dusting though, I use a Swiffer duster (the ones without the polish obviously). I have one that is strictly for the screen and nothing else. It does a better job of removing the dust instead of pushing it around. Especially in the corners where dust can build up.
Edited by Bond 007 - 1/8/13 at 4:54am
post #8237 of 9972
Hello folks! European owner of 42" ST50 here.

I bought TV 2 weeks ago and ran nothing but custom made video of "snow" with color break-in pattern. Picture is amazing, everying superb, no horizontal line issue or any other know issue on the panel which makes me very happy (so far).
My problem is when I try to watch movies (MKV) directly from USB pugged into TV. Most of movies are just too dark, almost unwatchable no matter which preset I turn on (mostly I use True cinema). For example "Dark knight rises", movie is so dark it's almost impossible to watch, several newer movies have same issue.

I tried to play same movies over my PC (DVI to HDMI), same darkness issue. But I have more issues with this solution cos I can't duplicate displays (TV is full HD, monitor is 1680x1024 resolution) so I use TV as extended display. Also, fast scenes in movies stutter a lot... maybe refresh rate issue... ?

Would playing moves over WD Live od Mede8er (or any player like that) give me any advantage in this problem? HDMI upscale over regular USB playback?

I will try do post some photos of my issue when I get home from work.
Any help or suggestion is much appreciated.

Thanx! ;-)
post #8238 of 9972
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

I have my system set up the same way. Yamaha receiver and Logitech 650. CEC is completely unnecessary to achieve this.
It's quite necessary if HDMI TV input signal is routed through AVR to TV. AVR HDMI switching needs a minimal amount of power to achieve this. CEC provide this functionality.
post #8239 of 9972
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

The Casabella looks like a fine cloth. Either one would probably do. I have bought many different kinds over the years. The best I have found are these:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0050R66X8/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00
Just for dusting though, I use a Swiffer duster (the ones without the polish obviously). I have one that is strictly for the screen and nothing else. It does a better job of removing the dust instead of pushing it around. Especially in the corners where dust can build up.

Thanks. I'll pick up the larger MagicFiber cloths. Easier than using the small 6"x6" one I have. I'm wary of using the Swiffer duster since on Amazon it indicates that they are not intended for anti-glare coated surfaces.
post #8240 of 9972
I assume the ST50 is suppose to be vertically straight when mounted on the stand. Mine is tilted slightly upward. Are others experiencing this?

This is what I mean:


*Click on image for larger picture
post #8241 of 9972
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Originally Posted by Iain- View Post

It's quite necessary if HDMI TV input signal is routed through AVR to TV. AVR HDMI switching needs a minimal amount of power to achieve this. CEC provide this functionality.
You are confusing CEC with something else. I do not use it. AVR HDMI switching has nothing to do with CEC. CEC is designed to turn things on and off together. Completely unnecessary. Are you talking about "HDMI Standy Switching" or "HDMI Standby Pass Through"? These are necessary.
post #8242 of 9972
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Originally Posted by p3Orion View Post

I assume the ST50 is suppose to be vertically straight when mounted on the stand. Mine is tilted slightly upward. Are others experiencing this?
This is what I mean:

*Click on image for larger picture
I don't use the stand but it seems like some discussion was about a metal bracket that if not properly installed would make the tv tilt.
post #8243 of 9972
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Originally Posted by p3Orion View Post

I assume the ST50 is suppose to be vertically straight when mounted on the stand. Mine is tilted slightly upward. Are others experiencing this?
This is what I mean:

*Click on image for larger picture
Mine leans towards the front a little.
post #8244 of 9972
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Originally Posted by p3Orion View Post

Thanks. I'll pick up the larger MagicFiber cloths. Easier than using the small 6"x6" one I have. I'm wary of using the Swiffer duster since on Amazon it indicates that they are not intended for anti-glare coated surfaces.
Can you provide me a link to that? I have been using them for years. Id like to see what kind and check on the credibility.
Nevermind. I see what you are talking about. The ones I use are actually not Swiffer brand. I use a Kroger knock off. Never noticed the difference but the Swiffer have rectangular paper attachments to them. The ones I use don't have these. Don't know if that is significant to the anti-glare issue or not. I suppose those pieces could scratch the film. The ones I use are just basically like a big piece of cotton. Glad you pointed that out. I will make sure that I stick with the ones I have been using.
Edited by Bond 007 - 1/8/13 at 9:27am
post #8245 of 9972
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Originally Posted by jekyoo View Post

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/108564/P55ST50.mov
I'm trying to connect my Macbook Pro to my ST50 via a HDMI to Mini Display port cord but this is what I get. This occurs when I have the resolution set at "Best for display" or 1080p. It works fine when I set it to 1080i or lower but not 1080p. Does anyone know how I can fix this? Any input would be greatly appreciated.
I know this isn't quite the same but wanted to give you a bit of an answer. I tried to connect my intel iMac to my 42ST30 using HDMI and the mini display adapter and could never get the iMac to come up on the display, ever, no matter what resolution I set them to. I was using a brand new cord, too. Now I have an iPad and a Roku 2XS and use the Roku app for my iPad to view videos and photos on my 55ST50, though using the HDMI video adapter to hook them up works perfectly also.
post #8246 of 9972
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

I don't use the stand but it seems like some discussion was about a metal bracket that if not properly installed would make the tv tilt.

I remember reading that somewhere. At first I thought they were talking about wedging a metal piece in between, but I made sure that my ST50 came with everything. There's just a bracket that the TV slides over. Maybe I'll try resetting it, but damn it took me a while to level it out horizontally.
post #8247 of 9972
This is my first post but I have been lurking this thread for the past month. I wanted to thank everyone for all the helpful info being shared in this thread..

I bought a TC-P55ST50 last Black Friday and I was wondering what is considered a "bright room"? I have my ST50 in my living room with one lamp that has two 60 watt light bulbs facing the opposite wall of where the TV is placed. I wouldn't consider my room bright in fact people I have over say the lighting in my living room is very relaxing because the dim lighting. The problem I have is my ST50 looks very dim and has no pop to it at all unless I use the "Vivid" settings but with those settings everything looks artificial and over saturated. I have tried the custom settings that people have posted including both Cnet and D-nice settings but they all seem so very dim. I tried raising the contrast higher and lowering the gamma when using other peoples custom settings but it makes little difference..

I know using other peoples settings is not ideal but I thought it would at least get me in range of good picture quality. I just ordered the Disney Wow disc from Amazon in hope that it will help me get some decent picture quality out of my ST50. I really want to like this TV and I know it has gotten lots of praise but so far I have been disappointed.. I hope the Disney WOW disc will change the way I feel toward this TV. If not I will probably have to sell it on craigslist or something and take a loss in the money I spent on this TV.


I wanted to add that the TV has been used at least 6 hours a day with mostly full screen content from HBO and other premium channels so it has about 200 hours of use or so on it so far.


Edit - Also I haven't viewed any Blu-rays on this TV yet so this has been my experience with the TV when watching Comcast Cable through a Motorola cable box that's hooked up to the TV through component cables since that's the only HD connection available on the Cable box.. I know most people settings are calibrated using a HDMI cable so I don't know if that has anything to do with what I am experiencing.
Edited by mixedguy - 1/8/13 at 11:43am
post #8248 of 9972
What's the layered effect in the following pictures? I can't remember the technical term for it.

The pictures didn't come out that great during the daytime, but they show the effect nonetheless.



Are there settings that minimize this?

I also noticed quite a bit of color bleed from Marlin and Dory, the orange and blue fish.
post #8249 of 9972
I could be wrong but that looks like color banding.
post #8250 of 9972
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Originally Posted by p3Orion View Post

What's the layered effect in the following pictures? I can't remember the technical term for it.
The pictures didn't come out that great during the daytime, but they show the effect nonetheless.

Are there settings that minimize this?
I also noticed quite a bit of color bleed from Marlin and Dory, the orange and blue fish.

Is that from a DVD? If so, it's an expected effect of the resolution and compression.
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