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post #8281 of 9971
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Originally Posted by gregzzy22 View Post

You guys really cant provide or show me where to find some decent 3D settings? (I asked yesterday) (could not find any through google)
There are some 3d settings at the website where the D-Nice slides are. You can find that link on page 1 of this thread. You will have to search for them there
post #8282 of 9971
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Nice. I'm jealous.


Haha why jealous?

Wait here's a better photo cool.gif



My Home Entertainment Setup.jpg 1029k .jpg file
post #8283 of 9971
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Originally Posted by MetalMX23 View Post

Haha why jealous?
Wait here's a better photo cool.gif
My Home Entertainment Setup.jpg 1029k .jpg file
Like the way that you set it into the curved space.
post #8284 of 9971
I have the European Model the TX-p50st50E.
And wen I set my PS3 to RGB Full over HDMI my TV does not change to Full range 0-255 mode, showing darker image and crushed blacks. It should change to the correct range automatically.
The European model doesn't have the HDMI Range menu to select manually it only has the DVI input settings that only appear wen I connect the PC with an DVI-HDMI cable our adapter, then i can select normal or Full, wen i select Full the TV goes to 0-255 mode and the image looks great.

His their any way I can trick the TV to switch to 0-255 range our is their a service menu option that lets you select the default HDMI Range.
Thanks.
post #8285 of 9971
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Like the way that you set it into the curved space.



Thanks.

There is just enough space on the side for the Xbox 360 and it's power supply.

Underneath is my Panasonic blu-ray disc player, Panasonic SC-PT170 All-in-one home theatre and Topfield TRF-7170 personal video recorder.

For the audio i use a Digital Optical Audio Switcher. I have the Xbox 360, Blu-Ray player and PVR connected to the switch box via Optical Audio and i can switch between the three and one cable connected to the Home Theatre as the Output.

http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=AC1675&CATID=85&form=CAT2&SUBCATID=1014#4

My Modem also fits nicely next to the tv connected via Ethernet.
Edited by MetalMX23 - 1/9/13 at 4:14am
post #8286 of 9971
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Originally Posted by MetalMX23 View Post

Here is a photo i have taken.
This shows you what the Sound EQ settings screen looks like on Australian ST50 Panels.
ST50 EQ Settings.jpg 1435k .jpg file

Hmm interesting. Wonder why Panasonic didn't include that feature for the NA sets.

I like the green power light on the AU sets better than the red one on the NA sets. Need some LightDims stat.
post #8287 of 9971
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Originally Posted by Robert8252 View Post

Does anyone on here game on their ST50? Been reading more and more and haven't read anything to turn me away 100% from this set. I don't game 24/7 but I'd say once every few months I get a wild hair and might play COD, Gran Turismo, or something for a 4-6 hour session. Does anyone on here have first hand experience with gaming on this?

Well I told you I game a lot, but didn't mention specifics about the ST50. I'm definitely babying my set so haven't gamed much yet. After I ran D-nice's 100 hour panel prep slides and entered his reference settings I watched/played full screen movies and blu-rays for about 20-25 hours. I then tried out FIFA 13 for ~20 minutes. No IR. Another 5-10 hours of movies & blu-rays and then ~30-40 minutes of FIFA 13. No IR. Several movies here and there plus running a few blu-rays for another ~20 hours. I played FIFA 13 for 1.5-2 hours straight. No IR. I checked for IR using D-nice's slides.

In addition to gaming I have watched soccer for 5-10 minutes at a time a few times. No IR.

My ST50 has a little over 200 hours on it. My plan is to run blu-rays for several hours each day in addition to full screen content w/o logos for another 200 hours. Add in a few letterbox movies, some more sports. I should be around 350 hours by the end of January. (January 31 is when my return period ends. I hope to flesh out any deal breakers, infant mortality by then). I will continue to game for longer sessions as I accumulate more hours on my ST50. After 400 hours I will introduce letterbox movies, content that has solid logos, e.g. sports, and feel more comfortable gaming more.

*For all my competive FPS gaming, specifically COD, I play on an ASUS VH236H monitor. I got it last spring for only $149.99 plus a $20 rebate. Being closer to the screen has really improved my gaming and I don't feel that I am losing out on a larger screen because I sit so close. I am able to more easily pick out targets' heads at distance compared to 42" and 50" plasmas. I play all my single player games and online sports on the larger plasmas.
post #8288 of 9971
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Originally Posted by Robert8252 View Post

Has there ever been any extensive IR? From reading it sounds like burn in is close to non existent any more but IR is common to have. This does worry me a bit. Never had to baby a tv before but I'm willing to be cautious. Really I'm down to either the Panasonic ST50 or Samsung ES6500. Really want the plasma but am worried now that its been said not to for gaming.

Read posts by this guy in this thread. He had the biggest issue with IR of anyone I recall reading about. I can't remember the specifics of his situation. It did not deter me from buying a plasma for gaming.
http://www.avsforum.com/forums/posts/by_user/id/8448144

I've gamed on plasmas since 2006. When I purchased my first, a TH-PH429UK, there was a lot of the "don't buy a plasma for gaming" vs "plasmas are fine for gaming" debate. I admit, I was very hesitant, but I took the plunge and haven't looked back. The fact that plasmas look so good with games, handle motion well, and have low input lag really drew me in. I have followed the advice on how to reduce the risk of IR on every set I've played on. I start out with full screen content w/o logos for the first 200 hours or so and then gradually introduce gaming. After 400-500 I am gaming for several hours at at time. I've played as long as 6-8 straight countless times on my 429UK without issue. We also have a 2008 Panasonic plasma. I haven't gamed on it as much, but I have played for hours straight with no issue as well.
post #8289 of 9971
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Originally Posted by Robert8252 View Post

I've searched and searched and can't find this thread or post on their site.

google:

high def junkies DISPLAY SETTINGS, CALIBRATIONS, & REVIEWS

Click on Forum: DISPLAY SETTINGS, CALIBRATIONS, & REVIEWS, which should be the first link, and then choose 2012 Panasonic Settings/Issues Thread. The FAQ is on page 3, post #41. If you want to use D-nice's slides they are located on page 1. You have to register to download them.

*READ THE FAQ BEFORE USING D-NICE'S SLIDES AS IT INCLUDES IMPORTANT STEPS ON HOW TO USE THEM.
post #8290 of 9971
Has anyone popped in the Looper Blu Ray yet. I'm just wondering if what i saw while watching is supposed to be there. In some seems it almost looked like the lighting from filming was reflecting back onto the camera and showing up on the screen. Even the wife made a comment about it. Kinda hard to explain, but if you saw the film you hopefully know what i'm talking about.
post #8291 of 9971
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Originally Posted by sethmp View Post

Has anyone popped in the Looper Blu Ray yet. I'm just wondering if what i saw while watching is supposed to be there. In some seems it almost looked like the lighting from filming was reflecting back onto the camera and showing up on the screen. Even the wife made a comment about it. Kinda hard to explain, but if you saw the film you hopefully know what i'm talking about.

This didn't resemble a rainbow-effect, did it? Did you notice it more often in lighter areas of the screen?
post #8292 of 9971
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Originally Posted by sethmp View Post

Has anyone popped in the Looper Blu Ray yet. I'm just wondering if what i saw while watching is supposed to be there. In some seems it almost looked like the lighting from filming was reflecting back onto the camera and showing up on the screen. Even the wife made a comment about it. Kinda hard to explain, but if you saw the film you hopefully know what i'm talking about.

I didn't view this movie very critically (i.e. I think I was laying sideways on the couch for over half of it), but nothing stood out to me visually. Well, nothing other than Joseph Gordon-Levitt looking goofier than usual.
post #8293 of 9971
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Originally Posted by sethmp View Post

Has anyone popped in the Looper Blu Ray yet. I'm just wondering if what i saw while watching is supposed to be there. In some seems it almost looked like the lighting from filming was reflecting back onto the camera and showing up on the screen. Even the wife made a comment about it. Kinda hard to explain, but if you saw the film you hopefully know what i'm talking about.

Lens flares. That's what it is called. Have you seen the newer J.J. Abrams Star Trek? It's a stylistic effect used by some directors. Personally, I dislike it.

http://m.io9.com/5230278/jj-abrams-admits-star-trek-lens-flares-are-ridiculous
post #8294 of 9971
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Originally Posted by withnail View Post

This didn't resemble a rainbow-effect, did it? Did you notice it more often in lighter areas of the screen?

it was more when the sun would shine in like an early morning glare from the sun. Not sure what the rainbow effect actually is though. I'm still a novice when it comes to these terms
post #8295 of 9971
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post #8296 of 9971
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Originally Posted by iBrad View Post

Nothing wrong with the tv and is normal, but about your highly expectation with the HD tech.
What is your reference source? Did you ever saw a source that isn't blurring when panning?, i.e. movie theater, crt/plasma/lcd/led/projector tv sources?, blur is (intended) in the movie itself?
Even in real life when you panning your head (fast) around, everything looks blur to my eyes! just saying.
But here is the solution to display movies correctly on your tv, without or to minimize judder/jitter/shudder/stutter/blurring/soap opera etc.:
-When playing movies (as movies are recorded @24p = 24fps) from your bluray player/htpc/ps3 etc. ALWAYS set those video output= 24p!
-Set your tv [24p Direct in] = 48Hz or 24Hz if available!
For the following settings that cause more or less blurring/posterization etc., try it out:
-Set "Video NR" = Off
-Set [Color space] = Normal.
-Set [Contour emphasis] = Off.
-Set [AGC] = 0.
-Set [Content type(HDMI)] = Off.
-Set [Block NR] = Off.
-Set [Mosquito NR] = Off.
-Set [Motion smoother] = Off or try which setting gives less jitter/blur.
The worst blurring are on the LCD tv's!
I've been reviewing my BD of HBO "The Pacific" over the past couple of days and noticed that PQ is quite improved with "Content Type/HDMI" set to "Off" rather than with it set to "Auto". Anyone know the reason for this?

BTW, I've experimented with all of the above settings and find list above to be spot on. Player is Sony BDP-S790 configured for "Original Resolution" playback.
post #8297 of 9971
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Originally Posted by HD-Master View Post

Lens flares. That's what it is called. Have you seen the newer J.J. Abrams Star Trek? It's a stylistic effect used by some directors. Personally, I dislike it.
http://m.io9.com/5230278/jj-abrams-admits-star-trek-lens-flares-are-ridiculous

thats kinda what i figured. It was like the lighting from the background was reflecting into the camera and showing up on screen. I didn't think it was the Tv, but just had to check.
post #8298 of 9971
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Originally Posted by Iain- View Post

I've been reviewing my BD of HBO "The Pacific" over the past couple of days and noticed that PQ is quite improved with "Content Type/HDMI" set to "Off" rather than with it set to "Auto". Anyone know the reason for this?
BTW, I've experimented with all of the above settings and find list above to be spot on. Player is Sony BDP-S790 configured for "Original Resolution" playback.

Hmm. I'll try that setting. I recently purchased HBO's "Band of Brothers" on blu-ray - one of my favorite shows. I'm waiting to set up my new speakers before I watch it. I didn't like "The Pacific" nearly as much. Only a couple of episodes stood out and for me only one (can't remember which one) matched the bar set by "Band of Brothers.".
post #8299 of 9971
Hello there

If i use 48hz for 3d and 60 hz for 2d will the tv remember these settings?
post #8300 of 9971
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Originally Posted by john2910 View Post

Hello there

If i use 48hz for 3d and 60 hz for 2d will the tv remember these settings?

Yes
post #8301 of 9971
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Originally Posted by HD-Master View Post

Yes

Hey thx thats great..

What 3dglasses do you recommend to avoid flicker at 48hz?
post #8302 of 9971
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Originally Posted by john2910 View Post

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Originally Posted by HD-Master View Post

Yes

Hey thx thats great..

What 3dglasses do you recommend to avoid flicker at 48hz?

I use the Panasonic 3D glasses.
post #8303 of 9971
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Originally Posted by HD-Master View Post

I use the Panasonic 3D glasses.

Thx for the reply

You get no flicker at 48hz?
post #8304 of 9971
The best way to avoid flicker is to watch 3d in complete darkness. I tried to watch Avatar in the mid afternoon and the light from windows near my tv caused quite a bit of flicker for obvious reasons. Same results with the panasonic and the Samsung glasses. If anything the panasonic a were better because they block more side light. But in a pitch black room both glasses perform the same.
post #8305 of 9971
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Originally Posted by john2910 View Post

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Originally Posted by HD-Master View Post

I use the Panasonic 3D glasses.

Thx for the reply

You get no flicker at 48hz?

I would if I watched in the middle of the afternoon, but I always use 3D at night. I don't have any flicker issues at night.
post #8306 of 9971
I have a question I hope someone can help me with on my 55" ST50. I just upgraded my DSL connection to 12MBPS so now I can get streaming HD via the built-in WiFi. I can also stream HD video via the new Sony 3D Blu-ray player I bought. The audio for both the TV and the Blu-ray are connected to the receiver via separate optical inputs, as my receiver was made prior to HDMI. The difference is, when I stream via the Blu-Ray I get 5.1 surround. But when I use the built-in WiFi to stream exactly the same program from exactly the same source, in this case a movie on Amazon Instant Video, it only comes out in stereo. Why is this? Is there a setting I can change on the TV that will send a 5.1 audio signal to the receiver when viewing content received via the Internet? For cable I have optical out from the cable box to the receiver, so I always get the native signal (sometimes 5.1, sometimes stereo). So this question only applies to content received via the Internet. Thanks.
post #8307 of 9971
The 2013 TC-P60ST.
http://shop.panasonic.com/shop/model/TC-P60ST60
Almost time for a new thread Randy?
post #8308 of 9971
Just got this set and have an audio question. I have an older Panasonic Receiver SA-HE70 (sans HDMI) and was wondering if this set passthrough'd 5.1 VIA the optical out. Currently, my configuration is:


Device | Video | Audio

DVR BOX | HDMI 1 | SPDIF > Optical in on Receiver (TV OPT1 on receiver)
Xbox 360 | HDMI 2 | No surround for this - use TV Volume
Win8 PC | HDMI 3 | Motherboard SPDIF > Optical Input 2 on Receiver (DVD OPT2)

The two main problems are:
1. No surround on xbox (only two OPT INs anyway)
2. Possibly unnecessary extra cords?

Can I simply leave all the HDMI inputs as they are and take a SPDIF OUT from the back of the ST50 to OPT1 on my receiver? I'm somewhat a novice at this so excuse me if this was a stupid question -- if it is, do you have any recommendations on how I've got it illustrated?
post #8309 of 9971
I'll have to drop in on a regular basis and see how the rest of the line prices out.
post #8310 of 9971
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Originally Posted by rakers8 View Post

Just got this set and have an audio question. I have an older Panasonic Receiver SA-HE70 (sans HDMI) and was wondering if this set passthrough'd 5.1 VIA the optical out. Currently, my configuration is:


Device | Video | Audio

DVR BOX | HDMI 1 | SPDIF > Optical in on Receiver (TV OPT1 on receiver)
Xbox 360 | HDMI 2 | No surround for this - use TV Volume
Win8 PC | HDMI 3 | Motherboard SPDIF > Optical Input 2 on Receiver (DVD OPT2)

The two main problems are:
1. No surround on xbox (only two OPT INs anyway)
2. Possibly unnecessary extra cords?

Can I simply leave all the HDMI inputs as they are and take a SPDIF OUT from the back of the ST50 to OPT1 on my receiver? I'm somewhat a novice at this so excuse me if this was a stupid question -- if it is, do you have any recommendations on how I've got it illustrated?
You will only get 5.1 from internals on the Panny via digi op out. Basically OTA broadcast and Viera apps. Most tvs if not all are like this. You can run the dvr straight to the avr but may run into sync issues that may or may not be easily resolved depending on your avr.
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