Official Panasonic ST50 Series Discussion Thread [No Street Price Talk] - Page 30

is it really that bad? :f

Yes, basically. But it also blinks every once in a while and then brightens up. Basketball was almost unwatchable the increased brightness happened so often.

I think that was the point. Having warmer ambient air made a very large difference in the amount of heat felt coming off the components so the same could be said for other electronics. I wasnt arguing that the actual heat output of the components changed just that there was a dramatic difference in perceived temp

The only 3D blu-ray we've watched so far on the ST50 is "Tangled." The daylight scenes were amazingly sharp and showed detail we never saw in the theater, but the night scenes had majorly distracting crosstalk.

Is this something that a pro calibration could fix? I see several people here are quite happy with the 3D on their sets. Is it even the TV, or is it the settings of the blu-ray playeror possibly just the movie?

Shocked,

Take a look at the Display Calibration section, there's a lot of information on using ColorHCFR.

Here's a good resource too:

http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10457

I also have a Spyder3 puck for calibrating my computer display and it has been working very well with ColorHCFR for my TV. It's very easy to learn.

Good luck.

I was having this same issue but simply took my settings out of Standard and into Custom and the issues I had watching basketball games was completely gone. No more flashing blinks.

This is on the ST50? so you're saying that the whites look poor for hockey and basketball is unwatchable? in what modes? that's quite concerning to say the very least.

even on the st30 and other tvs in my house i see the flash strobing for hockey but im use to it now

I think there's a firmware fix for ABL on the ST30, is there not? Hopefully the ST50 gets a fix as well.

I've been told by a reliable source that AVS post counts are much like tree rings. They reveal things about the deep dark past.

I think Avatar is a good 3D reference Blu Ray to test. Any ST50 owners out there have Avatar?

I just received my 50 in ST50 yesterday! I immediately use D-Nice ST50 Non panel prep user settings under Custom picture mode. I love its PQ, blacks are deep. I didnt notice any fluctuating brightness after 3 movies TINTIN, Avatar, and Karate kid. I also did try the slides under all picture modes (for few minutes) just to look for the green lines. I did not see any lines of any color from different slides and different picture modes. I have also tried playing music using my laptop and use windows media player visualizations under all picture modes hoping it might help prepare the phospors since I didnt do the panel prep settings. I dont know if that will do any good. I also didnt notice any buzzing. You can only hear the fan if you will stay close to the back of the tv and literally listening closely at 2 in distance. So its quiet! I am a newbie with hdtvs I only say what I observe. The TV looks solid and heavy.

I have a friend who has a sony 47in hx729 3DTV XR480 and has a vizio 47in XVT3D 480hz both have great PQ but both of my friends admit that they do not like the "soap opera effect', Before I was looking to buy sony HX820 or a samsung d7000 on amazon but I was still hoping that the price would go low. Then I went to BB and have tried 3D on samsung LED D7000, the picture looks vibrant probably because of the brightness but when I tried panasonic 3d I was amazed to see natural skin tone which I thought I can almost touch them. That made me change my mind about LED tvs. Its my personal preference now that I should look for the most natural colors and not the most vibrant because of brightness for the purpose of watching movies. I havent tried 3D on my tv im still waiting for the glasses. I have done 2 hours of playing MW3 on my ps3 and I didnt notice any IR. Tomorrow Ill try for 4 hours and check again.

My 2 friends visited me last night to check on my new tv, They were also amazed by its PQ, its natural color, and the depth of black. btw from time to time I do the slides, the scrolling bar, and WMP visuals at digfferent picture modes hoping it would at least break in the tv and prep the phospors. please advise if its doing any good or if its just a waste of time.

i was under the impression that it comes without any fans?

did you watch basketball or hockey and can confirm on the strobe lights issues?

I have yet to watch a hockey game. but I am now watching lakers vs hornets game on espn HD and I dont see any strobe lights. My picture mode is custom with D NICE non prep panel settings.

Are you wowed ? Or skeptical ?

Skeptical at first. But I would say amazed by the PQ for this price range. I would recommned this for watching movies and games bec of 600hz refresh rate and 2500 FFD.

I checked out the local bestbuy an they had a 55st50 Hooked up to the 3d display. The 3d looked pretty good to me. I talked to the guy and said it plays the 2d loop until someone hits the 3d buttons. I toUched the back panel of the tv and it was cool to the touch.

I think I'll pick up a 60 inch pretty soon.

Games as in sports watching?

Is the 2d picture soft though as someone said?

Thanks. The software the guide refers to needing to be installed first is the standard software for the device? I'll have a look at it later tonight when I actually have some free time.

I was playing Wipeout earlier today... fast-paced racing game seemed like a good way to experience plasma motion resolution vs my previous 120 Hz LCD. The difference was unreal.

My ST30 doesn't have 10 pt or CMS and it calibrated very well. My calibrator (Don McLaughlin of Precision Video Calibrations) gave me an excellent price for calibration without 10 pt and CMS. It was very reasonable and he still spent 3.5 hours with it.

both watching sports and playing PS3.

But if the kids are the ones whose gonna use the TV for playing games, I would say use LED coz its more appealing to them because of its vibrant colors.

It is too soft on the standard picture modes, vivid preset looks washed out but cinema preset is good enough. But if you adjust the picture under custom and follow D NiCe settings then its awesome. I think every TV as long as you calibrate the colors would give you great PQ. THe big difference I see from my friends LED tvs are the soap opera effect. On plasma you get the cinematic quality. On LED tvs, cinematography I think are non factor.

I thought the ST50 was 2000FFD.

Only in the UK/EU.

Personally I'm very skeptical about this. It stinks of marketing and I suspect that there isn't any difference in the panels between regions other than their software.

Joe Public -
Oh this panel is 2000Hz and this one is 2500Hz....? I'll take the one that is 500 better thanks!

This is where you are confused. The heat generated is the same, but the heat released is different and based on cooling. If the heat is not released by the component it will be stored in the component, thus the component will be physically hotter depending on the ambient air temp.

If heat generation is constant, and heat removal is a variable, obviously the heat stored is dependent upon the variable. Air temp is based on the environment the TV is in.

+1. rogo, quit while you are ahead. And why the big fuss over someone commenting that a plasma felt hot to the touch?

TOm wrote:
"My one complaint with the picture is that for HD programs that are live or on video (e.g. American Idol, late night talk shows) it's not quite as good as the PX60U. By no means is it bad. If I had to describe it though I would say it's not as crisp as my old set. It almost has a kind of matte look that you get with LCD. It's possible this is a result of going from a 42" 720p set to 50" 1080p. Again, by no means is the picture bad. It's just that the look is a little different from what I have been used to. In a couple of weeks I'll try using thg DVE disc to see if I can tweak the settings a little bit."

This sounds rather unfortunate- after all probably 50% of my viewing is of broadcast tv. Does anyone have any thought about this? What about switching the set to 720p? Could it be a settings issue? Or is it just becoming common knowledge that 1080p sets do set show broadcast tv as well as 720p sets? thanks, j

You are wrong. Ambient temperature absolutely is a determinant whether you will burn your hand or not, and how bad the burn would be. Read Iron Condor 's post above and think about it.

its 2500 FFD. Look at panasonic usa website and amazon website. Even the sticker on this TV says 2500 FFD

j, there were a couple of additonal posts on this. Member snakama mentioned his picture was a little soft and suggested to change the HD Size setting from 1 to 2. Setting 1 basically crops off the edges and only displays 95% of the picture while setting 2 displays the whole thing. When I went through the options, I was clueless as to the purpose of this and ended up leaving it as 1 which I assume is the default. Changing it to 2 definitely improves the picture. I'm still not convinced it's as good as my old set but it comes very close. I imagine some additional tweaks here and there will further improve it.

I've also gone back and edited my original post to reflect the update.

Where on the back panel did you touch it? What I've noticed is that there are certain hot spots. For example, if you're facing the back of the panel and touch the upper right hand corner, you'll probably find that it's quite warm. Other areas won't feel warm at all.

Tom