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post #9691 of 9971
So my daughter just nailed my screen with a toy... TV is cracked and dead. I feel like throwing up. My options are pretty limited I take it? Home owners insurance, Best Buy protection plan? I'm not liking what I'm hearing so far...
post #9692 of 9971
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Originally Posted by CheYC View Post

So my daughter just nailed my screen with a toy... TV is cracked and dead. I feel like throwing up. My options are pretty limited I take it? Home owners insurance, Best Buy protection plan? I'm not liking what I'm hearing so far...

Man that really sucks. If you have home owners insurance is the way to do it I guess. Just look at the right side, you will have a new TV.
post #9693 of 9971
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Originally Posted by CheYC View Post

So my daughter just nailed my screen with a toy... TV is cracked and dead. I feel like throwing up. My options are pretty limited I take it? Home owners insurance, Best Buy protection plan? I'm not liking what I'm hearing so far...

Ouch man! So sorry to hear that.
I have little people too.
Maybe it wouldn't be so bad to invest in a tv protector screen next time.
Just a suggestion.


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post #9694 of 9971
I searched but can't seem to find any info on this forum about anyone having problems using USB hub to play movies off of a flash drive or external harddrive. I seem to get a "jerky" hesitation thruout the movie..almost like the picture pauses for a split second then starts right back up again. This may happen 100 times within the film (every minute or two), sometimes very noticeable sometimes not so much so. This does not happen when I play the same film on my computer, only when I try to play it from drive through the USB port on my year old ST50. I might add that TV shows that I play in the same manner do not have this "jerky" quality.

These would be somewhat older drives would that matter? Is there a certain speed the drive needs to be to interface correctly with TV, but then why would downloaded tv shows play just fine? The source material is HD 720 or 1080 material.

I am going to do more research into the different sources of which I obtain my material from (most of my movies that I play through the USB hub DO come from one source) but was wondering if anyone has experienced this problem.
Edited by rojimmy - 10/16/13 at 11:05pm
post #9695 of 9971
While I am not sure why you are experiencing it, stuttering like you describe is usually the result of poor IO performance. It sounds like you have a USB bottle neck. When you say it plays fine on your computer is that through USB or is that playing the file directly?

I have had some quirky things occur where devices would revert to USB 1.1 rather than 2.0 and suffer a corresponding decrease in performance.
post #9696 of 9971
Indeed exactly what it seems like poor interface..yet why would my tv shows play ok? I do get the movies and tv shows from different places but as stated TV shows play fine. I was talking about when I play it from computer directly but I just tried a movie from external HD through USB on computer no stuttering.
post #9697 of 9971
If it's an IO performance problem, which is what I would expect...

You say you get the TV shows/movies from different places. What are the bitrates? TV shows may have a much lower bitrate. A quick, dirty, inaccurate way to find the bitrate is just filesize divided by video duration. I would expect the movies to play at a higher bitrate, which would explain why they would stutter but TV shows won't.

Your computer may be able to play the videos with less stuttering due to better handling of IO through USB, or simply using a larger buffer. Hard to say.

Do you have a high-speed memory card you can try the videos on?
post #9698 of 9971
It could also likely be that the TV shows are encoded in a peculiar way that's causing the TV's decoding algorithm problems. For example, on a computer it's not unusual for one movie to play fine using VLC while it'll barely play at all using QuickTime even though there's no change in computer hardware. In other words, it might simply be that your TV doesn't like the format of the movie files you're trying to send it.

I'd suggest trying to re-encode your movies in a format that you know your TV can handle without problems and see if they play any better. Software like HandBrake is perfect for these types of things. Or you could pump the movies through an external box (like a WDTV or similar) to see if that's better able to handle them.
post #9699 of 9971
All theses thoughts have certainly enlightened me a bit as to what the problem may be if not actually fixing it directly and I really appreciate the feedback. Most if not all of the movies I watch are in MPEG-4 movie format and the tv shows generally if not always .mkv. So the tv shows seem to play just fine every-time and the movies are the ones that stutter most of the time. I guess maybe I'll try to convert a movie or two to the .mkv format from MP4 and see what if anything is different.
post #9700 of 9971
I've had my 55ST50 since May of 2012 as my living room display and boy is it nice. PQ still looks amazing (I haven't even had it ISF calibrated, just used DNice's settings) and I swear that it has actually gotten better with age. Use it to watch HD cable, my Roku 3, an AppleTV3 and an OPPO 83 blu-ray player. No problems at all with anything. I can only assume that many other ST50 owners have experienced the euphoria of great PQ.
post #9701 of 9971
Still happy with mine.
post #9702 of 9971
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Originally Posted by rojimmy View Post

All theses thoughts have certainly enlightened me a bit as to what the problem may be if not actually fixing it directly and I really appreciate the feedback. Most if not all of the movies I watch are in MPEG-4 movie format and the tv shows generally if not always .mkv. So the tv shows seem to play just fine every-time and the movies are the ones that stutter most of the time. I guess maybe I'll try to convert a movie or two to the .mkv format from MP4 and see what if anything is different.
MP4 and MKV are both simply containers and don't, in and of themselves, tell you how the video or audio within them was encoded. MP4 files could contain video that's encoded in VC-1, H.264, MPEG-4 AVC, or others. You might have one MP4 file play fine on your TV and another not at all. So, you need to make sure the video within your MP4 or MKV is encoded in a format the TV can handle.

More info here.
post #9703 of 9971
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Originally Posted by Schwa View Post

I also just got a 65ST50 and noticed that the 3D black levels are quite a bit worse than the 2D black levels. Even after calibration in Custom mode the 3D black levels don't approach the deep 2D blacks. At this point I guess this is the nature of the beast, but does anyone have any experience correcting this issue (other than "calibrate it;" been there, done that). If the set can deliver such impressive 2D black levels, I'm surprised that the 3D levels aren't just as good -- it seems like the potential is definitely there.
I never got any help with this so I decided to raise this post from the dead. The 3D black levels on my new VT60 are heads-and-tails better than the 3D black levels on my ST50. Are there any non-obvious tweaks I could do it improve the 3D black levels on my ST50? When I'm watching 3D in a dark room the black levels on the ST50 look like they would on an old LCD RPTV -- and lowering contrast doesn't seem to help, nor does messing with the gamma settings.
post #9704 of 9971
Hy Schwa, can you tell me how your VT60 compares to your ST50 in terms of 720p and 1080i tv content? How is the scaling, de-interlacing and overall video processing? Sharpness and noise content- which one does better?
post #9705 of 9971
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Originally Posted by Chere View Post

Hy Schwa, can you tell me how your VT60 compares to your ST50 in terms of 720p and 1080i tv content? How is the scaling, de-interlacing and overall video processing? Sharpness and noise content- which one does better?
Probably kills it. FYI I have an ST50.
post #9706 of 9971
Does anyone know how to get the NBA app on the tv? I had the P50ST30 before this tv and it had NBA on it but this ST50 does not and I cannot figure out how to add it. Any help appreciated.
post #9707 of 9971
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Originally Posted by Muddeprived View Post

Does anyone know how to get the NBA app on the tv? I had the P50ST30 before this tv and it had NBA on it but this ST50 does not and I cannot figure out how to add it. Any help appreciated.
There is no way to add it. NBA is not available.
post #9708 of 9971
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

There is no way to add it. NBA is not available.

Wow...that sucks.
post #9709 of 9971
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Originally Posted by Muddeprived View Post

Wow...that sucks.
Sorry. If I remember right it was available at first and then removed. Probably something to do with contracts.
post #9710 of 9971
A new NBA app just appeared on my PS3, so maybe its worth checking back and seeing if one appeared for Viera.
post #9711 of 9971

Yesterday my software on a 50ST50 is updated from 1.263 to 1.266

 

Can not find any info on what is changed...

 

Anyone noticed anything with the software?

post #9712 of 9971
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Originally Posted by subavision212 View Post

I've had my 55ST50 since May of 2012 as my living room display and boy is it nice. PQ still looks amazing (I haven't even had it ISF calibrated, just used DNice's settings) and I swear that it has actually gotten better with age. Use it to watch HD cable, my Roku 3, an AppleTV3 and an OPPO 83 blu-ray player. No problems at all with anything. I can only assume that many other ST50 owners have experienced the euphoria of great PQ.

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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Still happy with mine.

I won't be replacing mine until OLED becomes more mainstream and affordable.

Still a great set with natural, life like picture qualities.
post #9713 of 9971
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Originally Posted by weekendtoy View Post


I won't be replacing mine until OLED becomes more mainstream and affordable.

Still a great set with natural, life like picture qualities.

Same here. I have only had mine for about six weeks but I am still loving it. So glad my DLP died just before the Plasmas went away!
post #9714 of 9971

I am interested in upgrading my five year old Samsung 720p Plasma HDTV to this one, but I am confused if you can turn off this set's internal speakers.  I am using the Denon AVR-X3000 receiver and 7.1 speakers for all of my audio and my video needs.  I have read that you cannot turn off this model's speakers unless you only use Panasonic's home theater system. Someone called Panasonic's customer service about this issue, and he/she was told that they have to mute the TV speakers in order to use home theater speakers.  Is this true?  

 

I think that's annoying feature since most other TV manufacturers allow you to turn off their HDTV internal speakers when connected to a home theater receiver.  Is there another way to do what I want or should I look for another TV?

 

David

post #9715 of 9971
No, that is not true. You can easily disable the speakers via the Menu. I also use an AVR.
post #9716 of 9971
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Originally Posted by turbo78 View Post

Yesterday my software on a 50ST50 is updated from 1.263 to 1.266

Can not find any info on what is changed...

Anyone noticed anything with the software?
I'll check my panel when i get home later this evening.
post #9717 of 9971
1.230 on my 60ST50 so no help here.
post #9718 of 9971
Do plasmas inherently have dot crawl when you are looking closely at the display? On menus, especially the little gray one when it says it can't find anything on the input, shows significant dot crawl.
post #9719 of 9971
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Originally Posted by Valnar View Post

Do plasmas inherently have dot crawl when you are looking closely at the display? On menus, especially the little gray one when it says it can't find anything on the input, shows significant dot crawl.
Looking closely from a normal viewing distance (no), or looking closely very close to the screen (yes)?
post #9720 of 9971
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Originally Posted by Valnar View Post

Do plasmas inherently have dot crawl when you are looking closely at the display? On menus, especially the little gray one when it says it can't find anything on the input, shows significant dot crawl.
What you're seeing is called dithering and it's normal. Dot crawl is what you'd see on hard edges when viewing composite video on sets with 2D comb filters.
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