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post #181 of 729
You will definitely need to use the connections Doctego gave you. As best I can see from the manual, the TV has NO audio out. frown.gif You're not located in the U.S. are you?
post #182 of 729
Thank you Doctego.
Your suggestion worked great. Turns out the soundbar switches automatically to D.IN when I turn on the DVD player and switches back to HDMI when I turn the player off.
Thank so much for all your help here.
post #183 of 729
Actually Possumgirl. I am over here in NJ. I couldn't believe i didn't have optical on this TV. And true, no audio out. It's only a year old. I didn't try to hook up anything to it until now. Thanks again.
post #184 of 729
I'm glad you got things connected and working. When I looked at the manual I got the impression that's an "international" model. I think U.S. models MUST provide digital audio out if there's an ATSC tuner, at least someplace I read that. That's why I thought you might be outside the U.S.
post #185 of 729
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Originally Posted by darkvader001 View Post

I'm going to try this an see what happen, if it work like it did for you that will make me very happy. I want the sound bar to turn ON automatically with Anytime++ ON so I can control the volume with my TV remote. Just to confirm you still have Anytime ++ on correct?

When you figure this out, be sure to post how you managed to accomplish it. The fact that this soundbar does not automatically power-on with the TV and be controlled by the (Samsung) TV remote (or TIVO remote) is unacceptable. What the heck was Samsung thinking? Spending additional money for a Harmony remote is not an acceptable workaround..

Lets see if I have this correct:
- It turns on automatically with an optical connection, but then you have to use the HWE450 remote to control the volume
- You can control the volume with your TV (or TIVO) remote if you hook it up with the HDMI connection, but then you have to use the HWE450 remote to turn it on

In my opinion, this is a very bad design with unacceptable shortcomings (& may ultimately result in me returning it)

I like the sound, just don't care for the unintuitive operation.

Someone please tell me I've missed something.
post #186 of 729
I agree that this is a definite design flaw by Samsung but is it really that big of a deal to have to use 2 remotes rather than 1? I remember having to use 3 or 4 remotes just to watch a movie. How times have changed.biggrin.gif
post #187 of 729
I am able to get this soundbar to turn on and off with a Panasonic GT50 and vieralink FYI, so I dont see why it wouldnt work with a Samsung TV. Connected via HDMI ARC
post #188 of 729
Because Samsung TVs default audio devices to off when the TV turns on. There's no way to get the TV to turn it on automatically via CEC unless the receiver can do it. You can turn it on via the TV remote by pressing tools and turning it on from there with the TV remote.
post #189 of 729
Is this soundbar able to change inputs from optical to hdmi with the remote? I want to be able to use ARC via hdmi when watching blurays but use optical from comcast unit to soundbar when watching tv.
post #190 of 729
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Originally Posted by Toepepper View Post

Is this soundbar able to change inputs from optical to hdmi with the remote? I want to be able to use ARC via hdmi when watching blurays but use optical from comcast unit to soundbar when watching tv.

Yes. I believe it's the SOURCE or SAT SOURCE button.
post #191 of 729
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Originally Posted by ramoer View Post

I am able to get this soundbar to turn on and off with a Panasonic GT50 and vieralink FYI, so I dont see why it wouldnt work with a Samsung TV. Connected via HDMI ARC
Because Panasonic included an "auto-on" feature in their implemenation of CEC. So did Sharp. So did other brands. Samsung didn' t and it's the TV, not the soundbar, that controls CEC features.
post #192 of 729
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Originally Posted by Possumgirl View Post

Because Panasonic included an "auto-on" feature in their implemenation of CEC. So did Sharp. So did other brands. Samsung didn' t and it's the TV, not the soundbar, that controls CEC features.

Actually the control can be put in any device along the CEC-chain.

Onkyo receivers have an auto-on feature if I recall.
post #193 of 729
Hey Soundbar newbie question. My goal is to movies played from my phone to the projector. Does anyone know if there will be a voice delay using BT?

Thanks.
post #194 of 729
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Originally Posted by Bsims2719 View Post

Hey Soundbar newbie question. My goal is to movies played from my phone to the projector. Does anyone know if there will be a voice delay using BT?
Thanks.

Most likely yes.
post #195 of 729
Is there anything that can be done to reduce it or eliminate it??
post #196 of 729
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Originally Posted by Doctego View Post

I agree that this is a definite design flaw by Samsung but is it really that big of a deal to have to use 2 remotes rather than 1? I remember having to use 3 or 4 remotes just to watch a movie. How times have changed.biggrin.gif

Yes... unfortunately it is.
As someone else said, and bears repeating here, "You're not married to my wife."
You're probably also not 66 years old. Though a retired microwave engineer, and pretty tech-savvy in my prime, things don't come to us as quickly as they did 10 or 20 years ago. The new technology is really great, but for us old farts the learning curve seems a lot steeper than it used to be. - and unintuitive product designs such as this rank right up near the top of the pile of pieces of technological excrement.

We also own one of the Harmony remotes (a housewarming gift from a well-meaning friend) & both of us refuse to use it, as we find it to be more intimidating than useful. By contrast, we have 2 TIVO Premier units & dearly enjoy their sheer simplicity & reliability. The dang things just always work and the TIVO remote is extremely intuitive.

This new Samsung soundbar simply must be correctly & fully integrated into the Samsung (65ES8000) TV operation lest it be perceived as an albatross. My wife & I love the sound, but very much dislike the complete lack of forethought in product design & integration. Somewhere in the bowels of Samsung there is a product engineer woefully in need of a colonoscopy, with the HWE450 used as the Sigmoidoscope.

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post #197 of 729
I bought this system open box and have now realized that I have the wrong remote somehow! The shape and look is consistent with what is in the manual but the buttons are not the same. I am going to try and get this switched out but the issue I have until then is that the subwoofer is no longer synced with the bar. The manual details how to reconnect them but it requires pressing a button on the remote which I do not currently have. Any chance there is a way to sync this system without the remote?!?
post #198 of 729
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As someone else said, and bears repeating here, "You're not married to my wife."

I said that.biggrin.gif Fair enough.
post #199 of 729
First let me say I love this forum. For years it has been such a resourceful site for me. Too bad I have short term memory because I must have re-registered 2-3 times by now.

Anyways, I really feel embarrassed for not figuring this out but I'm having a little trouble that I'm hoping somebody can assist with.

I recently bought a Samsung UN46ES6003 (46 Slim LED) but it only has 2 HDMI ports. In addition, I also purchased this HW-E450 soundbar, just 1 HDMI in and 1 HDMI out port.

I've must have spent an hour last night trying to have them both turn on/off simultaneously but no luck. I even hooked up an optical and HDMI.

Basically I've decided I'll take it however it would work with all components playing via my soundbar.

1. Samsung TV
2. Soundbar
3. Comcast HD box
4. Sony Blu Ray
5. Playstation 3

As of now, I have my Comcast going HDMI in to my Soundbar and my Soundbar HDMI out to my TV.

I have the other HDMI spot on my TV going to my Blu Ray. No sound plays out of my soundbar and I am pretty sure I put the ARC set up on. What am I doing wrong?

I also bought a Ultra High Performance HDMI Switcher 3-1 which I plan on hooking up to my 2nd HDMI port on my TV and then running my Blu Ray and PS3 on.

But again, how can I get the sound to come out on the Soundbar properly? Thanks in advance. If anyone figured out how to get this thing to work more smoothly, especially with the two Samsung devices I'd be forever indebted.
post #200 of 729
my sound gets dropped now-and-then with the HDMI switcher (esp the one coming from my PC). it could perhaps be the cheap quality switch, yet..
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Originally Posted by Jason Gloss View Post

First let me say I love this forum. For years it has been such a resourceful site for me. Too bad I have short term memory because I must have re-registered 2-3 times by now.
Anyways, I really feel embarrassed for not figuring this out but I'm having a little trouble that I'm hoping somebody can assist with.
I recently bought a Samsung UN46ES6003 (46 Slim LED) but it only has 2 HDMI ports. In addition, I also purchased this HW-E450 soundbar, just 1 HDMI in and 1 HDMI out port.
I've must have spent an hour last night trying to have them both turn on/off simultaneously but no luck. I even hooked up an optical and HDMI.
Basically I've decided I'll take it however it would work with all components playing via my soundbar.
1. Samsung TV
2. Soundbar
3. Comcast HD box
4. Sony Blu Ray
5. Playstation 3
As of now, I have my Comcast going HDMI in to my Soundbar and my Soundbar HDMI out to my TV.
I have the other HDMI spot on my TV going to my Blu Ray. No sound plays out of my soundbar and I am pretty sure I put the ARC set up on. What am I doing wrong?
I also bought a Ultra High Performance HDMI Switcher 3-1 which I plan on hooking up to my 2nd HDMI port on my TV and then running my Blu Ray and PS3 on.
But again, how can I get the sound to come out on the Soundbar properly? Thanks in advance. If anyone figured out how to get this thing to work more smoothly, especially with the two Samsung devices I'd be forever indebted.
post #201 of 729
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Originally Posted by rsriram22 View Post

my sound gets dropped now-and-then with the HDMI switcher (esp the one coming from my PC). it could perhaps be the cheap quality switch, yet..

The first day I set mine up through an HDMI switch I had an odd thing happen where the audio and video would come through for a few sec but then the sound bar would switch itself to the digital input source even though no optical cable was plugged in. Haven't had the problem crop up in the past day or two so maybe it was just a fluke thing. Other than that I've not had any issues using the switch and having the audio get dropped or anything.

Also, in reference to my earlier post, according to a Samsung rep there is no other way to sync the sub and sound bar except by using the remote. Guess I'll have to wait till my replacement remote comes in to use the sub.
post #202 of 729
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Originally Posted by Jason Gloss View Post

First let me say I love this forum. For years it has been such a resourceful site for me. Too bad I have short term memory because I must have re-registered 2-3 times by now.
Anyways, I really feel embarrassed for not figuring this out but I'm having a little trouble that I'm hoping somebody can assist with.
I recently bought a Samsung UN46ES6003 (46 Slim LED) but it only has 2 HDMI ports. In addition, I also purchased this HW-E450 soundbar, just 1 HDMI in and 1 HDMI out port.
I've must have spent an hour last night trying to have them both turn on/off simultaneously but no luck. I even hooked up an optical and HDMI.
Basically I've decided I'll take it however it would work with all components playing via my soundbar.
1. Samsung TV
2. Soundbar
3. Comcast HD box
4. Sony Blu Ray
5. Playstation 3
As of now, I have my Comcast going HDMI in to my Soundbar and my Soundbar HDMI out to my TV.
I have the other HDMI spot on my TV going to my Blu Ray. No sound plays out of my soundbar and I am pretty sure I put the ARC set up on. What am I doing wrong?
I also bought a Ultra High Performance HDMI Switcher 3-1 which I plan on hooking up to my 2nd HDMI port on my TV and then running my Blu Ray and PS3 on.
But again, how can I get the sound to come out on the Soundbar properly? Thanks in advance. If anyone figured out how to get this thing to work more smoothly, especially with the two Samsung devices I'd be forever indebted.

I took a quick look at the manual for your TV and did not see any reference to its supporting ARC. Are you sure it does? You would see "ARC" next to one of the HDMI inputs (usually HDMI2 on a Sammy).

If it doesn't support ARC, you need to run an optical cable from the TV to the soundbar to get audio from anything connected to the TV. If it does support ARC, be sure you have Anynet+ enabled and that you are using a high-speed HDMI cable.

Since you already bought a switch, I'd suggest connecting all three of your source devices to it and connecting the switch to the soundbar.
post #203 of 729
Thanks you PG. I will try all of that when I get home. For some reason I thought all newer Samsungs supported ARC.
post #204 of 729
I just did some reading and see that is does NOT support it. Would there be an issue if I had both the HDMI and optical plugged in from Soundbar to the TV?
post #205 of 729
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Originally Posted by Jason Gloss View Post

I just did some reading and see that is does NOT support it. Would there be an issue if I had both the HDMI and optical plugged in from Soundbar to the TV?

No issue at all. The HDMI sends video from the soundbar to the TV for whatever you connect to the soundbar. The optical sends audio to the soundbar from whatever is connected to the TV. As I said earlier though, you may find it preferable to use the switch to connect everything to the soundbar, since the TV will only output stereo audio. For blu-rays in particular, you lose the surround encoding so they may sound better connected directly to the bar. Try it both ways, see which you prefer.
post #206 of 729
I'll def connect the Blu Ray, PS3 and Comcast to the switch and then bar since none of those 3 run at the same time. Thanks so much for your help.

I'll put back the optical cord from bar to TV for now so the other HDMI port on the TV will now play audio via the bar. You're awesome!
post #207 of 729
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Originally Posted by Jason Gloss View Post

I'll def connect the Blu Ray, PS3 and Comcast to the switch and then bar since none of those 3 run at the same time. Thanks so much for your help.
I'll put back the optical cord from bar to TV for now so the other HDMI port on the TV will now play audio via the bar. You're awesome!

Just to make sure that you understand, you shouldn't need the optical at all if you connect it as Possumgirl suggested. Hooking everything up to the switch via HDMI and then the switch to the soundbar via HDMI should be the way to go. From there, just go HDMI OUT from the soundbar to the TV.
Edited by Doctego - 12/6/12 at 8:06pm
post #208 of 729
Yes I'm aware but I didn't get the switcher yet smile.gif So for now it's optical time smile.gif
post #209 of 729
Ok so I read about every post and I'd like to think Im somewhat intelligent but keep getting a tad bit confused. I have a couple of issues to go over and would appreciate any help I could get. I'm trying to hook up the following devices:
1. Samsung 55" smart tv (un55es6150f). Has anynet+ (hdmi-cec) and has arc Also has 3 hdmi outlets
2. directive set top box
3. Samsung hw-450oc sound bar
4. Samsung bs-em59c blue ray player

The cust support said to run everything directly to the tv and use optical from tv to sound bar. I've read so many different set ups that I'm confused on how to optimize my viewing/listening experience. Can someone tell me the best way to set this up to obtain the best experience while minimizing the number of remotes with regards to on/off issues and volume issues.

Also I can't believe I'm asking this and no one else brought this up regarding mounting on the wall but here goes. I'm mounting the tv on the wall for sure. Will mount the soundbar underneath 2 inches as suggested. However, I'm very perplexed on how to make the plug not show based on where it is. do you just drill a hole where it is and drop it or run it across the back and drop it down the inside of the wall from the middle. Also same with the optical/hdmi wires. The tv is easy but can't visualize how to hide the wires/plug from the sound bar. feel like a dope but want it to work and look nice. Don't want wires everywhere. Thanks for any and all the help. Thank you.
post #210 of 729
I had this sound bar and tried using it with my Samsung UN46EH6000 but found out it only plays audio when using the optical cable. This requires the use of the sound bar remote when you want to change the volume. There is no way to sync the Samsung EH6000 TV remote to the Samsung sound bar.

Samsung really screwed that up. Also it really doesn't sound that good for $250 in my opinion, so I took the thing back.

So does anyone know of an external audio setup that accepts optical and will sync with my original Samsung EH6000 TV remote?
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