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post #421 of 661
1/23/13 at 6:03pm
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Originally Posted by gwchoi View Post

I just got my samsung soundbar. There is only one connecting cable between the bar (HDMI out) and my LG TV 55LM6700 (HDMI-ARC). No optical cable is used here.

Good news: HDMI-CEC works fine. I can control volume and turn on/off my soundbar with my LG remote. Yes. I can also turn ON my soundbar using my LG remote. However, it takes about 7 sec. for me to hear the sound from the bar after i see pictures on TV. This gap is mainly due to the the long booting time of the soundbar. Seeing most of the people cannot turn on the bar with TV remote, I'm satisfied anyway.

Bad news: ARC doesn't work even though I turned on ARC options(Simplink/Anynet+) on both sides. Additional cable (optical cable) solved the problem and it's just fine! But, just for my curiosity. I read many posts here that replacing the HDMI cable solved most of the ARC-related problems. But I'm using the HDMI cable that was included in the box! I believe this cable should support ARC! Before I get a new HDMI cable, I just want to ask to those who solved the ARC problem by replacing the cable. "Was your old cable included in the box?" That is, I want to know if there is any case that included HDMI cable didn't support ARC function.

What sources do you have connected and how do you have them connected?
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post #422 of 661
1/23/13 at 6:05pm
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Originally Posted by Possumgirl View Post

What input is the bar switching to? Do you have ARC enabled on both the TV and soundbar? For a test, just disconnect the optical cable and see if ARC is working.

It works now! I just needed to leave the optical connection from the sound bar to the television, and manually change my Blu Ray sound settings to 'Surround Compatible'. Thanks so much for your help!
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post #423 of 661
1/23/13 at 6:41pm
This may be another question that was previously asked. Typically, when I turn off the TV, both the TV and the sound bar are set to HDMI. If I turn both back on, the TV will remain on HDMI, however the sound bar will stay on HDMI for about 10 seconds, then automatically switch to Digital Input (D In). Anyone else have this issue, or know how to resolve it?
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post #424 of 661
1/23/13 at 7:33pm
I am using HDMI cables, one from my cable box to my sound bar input and another HDMI cable from my sound bar output to the ARC input of my Samsung TV. Anynet is enabled for both the TV and sound bar. When I first turn everything on, the sound bar reads "HDMI" and everything is normal. After several seconds, I lose picture and sound and the sound bar read out changes to "ARC IN" as the source. If I manually change back to "HDMI", everything returns to normal. Can anyone explain why this happens? thanks
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post #425 of 661
1/23/13 at 8:16pm
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Originally Posted by steveh11284 View Post

This may be another question that was previously asked. Typically, when I turn off the TV, both the TV and the sound bar are set to HDMI. If I turn both back on, the TV will remain on HDMI, however the sound bar will stay on HDMI for about 10 seconds, then automatically switch to Digital Input (D In). Anyone else have this issue, or know how to resolve it?

The only thing that usually works is waiting about 10 seconds after the TV is on before turning on the sound bar.
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post #426 of 661
1/23/13 at 8:18pm
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Originally Posted by Mainwain View Post

I am using HDMI cables, one from my cable box to my sound bar input and another HDMI cable from my sound bar output to the ARC input of my Samsung TV. Anynet is enabled for both the TV and sound bar. When I first turn everything on, the sound bar reads "HDMI" and everything is normal. After several seconds, I lose picture and sound and the sound bar read out changes to "ARC IN" as the source. If I manually change back to "HDMI", everything returns to normal. Can anyone explain why this happens? thanks

ARC IN or D.IN? I bet it's the latter. Please see my post right above this for a quick "fix".
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post #427 of 661
1/23/13 at 8:46pm
Hello Everyone,

I have been reading these forums only to grow into deeper confusion. Basically, I am graciously asking for your best recommendations for hooking up and maximizing the best audio and video from my components.

What I have:

Samsung 50"Smart TV 3 Hdmi with no arc
Samsung BD3252 BluRay Player
HD DVR Satellite Box
Samsung 450 soundbar
3 Brand new HDMI and 1 optical cable

Thank you in advance for any advice given. I am gratefully in debted to you.

Tim
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post #428 of 661
1/23/13 at 8:51pm
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Originally Posted by ravenswin View Post

Hello Everyone,

I have been reading these forums only to grow into deeper confusion. Basically, I am graciously asking for your best recommendations for hooking up and maximizing the best audio and video from my components.

What I have:

Samsung 50"Smart TV 3 Hdmi with no arc
Samsung BD3252 BluRay Player
HD DVR Satellite Box
Samsung 450 soundbar
3 Brand new HDMI and 1 optical cable

Thank you in advance for any advice given. I am gratefully in debted to you.

Tim

I would connect the BD player to the HDMI IN on the sound bar and HDMI OUT from the sound bar to the TV. I would connect the HD DVR to the TV via HDMI and the DVR to the sound bar via optical.
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post #429 of 661
1/23/13 at 8:54pm
Thank you so much Doctego for the prompt response!
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post #430 of 661
1/24/13 at 9:36am
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Originally Posted by Doctego View Post

What sources do you have connected and how do you have them connected?

Only one TV to the soundbar. No other sources.
As stated, there is only one HDMI cable connecting HDMI OUT in the bar and HDMI IN (ARC) in the TV.
I think this should be the right connection.
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post #431 of 661
1/24/13 at 9:47am
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Originally Posted by gwchoi View Post

Only one TV to the soundbar. No other sources.
As stated, there is only one HDMI cable connecting HDMI OUT in the bar and HDMI IN (ARC) in the TV.
I think this should be the right connection.

ARC does require a high-speed HDMI cable. I've no idea if the included cable is the problem, but since cables are cheap, I'd try a new one. That said, there are numerous posts in this and other threads about getting ARC to work with this soundbar, regardless of whether the TV is a Sammy or a non-Sammy. At least the optical works okay for you and you're able to get CEC functions, so you're doing pretty good. smile.gif
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post #432 of 661
1/24/13 at 10:13am
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Originally Posted by Possumgirl View Post

ARC does require a high-speed HDMI cable. I've no idea if the included cable is the problem, but since cables are cheap, I'd try a new one. That said, there are numerous posts in this and other threads about getting ARC to work with this soundbar, regardless of whether the TV is a Sammy or a non-Sammy. At least the optical works okay for you and you're able to get CEC functions, so you're doing pretty good. smile.gif

My cable says it's "high-speed". Does high-speed necessarily mean that its version is 1.4 or later? Is there any way to find the version by looking at the cable?
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post #433 of 661
1/24/13 at 10:51am
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Originally Posted by gwchoi View Post

My cable says it's "high-speed". Does high-speed necessarily mean that its version is 1.4 or later? Is there any way to find the version by looking at the cable?

There isn't such a thing as a v1.4 cable. Monoprice has this short explanation about naming conventions on their website.

You could try a different cable but it may be that the bar and your TV just don't like each other when it comes to ARC. eek.gif
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post #434 of 661
1/24/13 at 2:33pm
Quote from Possomgirl

OTOH, if you connect the soundbar to the TV via optical, it will power on with the TV. However, it won't power off with the TV although after about 20 min. of no signal it will power off by itself

First, thanks to all for the replies. I tried hooking up the TV to the soundbar with the opticle cable and with Anynet activated on both devices (if it matters) tried powering on the TV. The soundbar doesn't turn on. Also, through HDMI ARC hook up, the soundbar doesn't power off with the TV (tried for the purpose of testing but wont ever use this setup) Having repairman come by Monday to change motherboard under warranty. We'll see if it makes a difference. Also, is this setup supposed to do anything? - All components hooked up to HDMI ports on TV (satellite, Blu ray, Apple TV) and HDMI ARC going from TV to soundbar HDMI Output - strictly for sound. (Note - Hdmi and opticle cables are brand new) Thanks
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post #435 of 661
1/24/13 at 3:24pm
I think that when I originally set up the system, I connected to an HDMI input on my TV that was not the ARC HDMI input, and then I would be the "D.IN" as you suggest. But there is no doubt that now when I am connected to the ARC HDMI input to my Samsung TV, the sound bar readout says "ARC IN" as I originally stated.
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post #436 of 661
1/24/13 at 3:35pm
Quick question, does this sound bar have a clock on the front display?
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post #437 of 661
1/24/13 at 5:03pm
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Originally Posted by wine0holic View Post

Quick question, does this sound bar have a clock on the front display?

No.
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post #438 of 661
1/25/13 at 7:23am
I have a Samsung Hw-E450 soundbar, a Samsung ES8000 TV, and a Humax Foxsat PVR. The PVR is connected to HDMI 1 and the soundbar is connected to HDMI 2 (ARC).

The TV sound is set to external speakers. I cannot get sound from the soundbar unless I connect an Optical cable between TV and bar, even though TV's HDMI-CEC is on (according to the TV menu), and the soundbar has Anynet set to On. I have tried both D.In and also HDMI on the soundbar, but only D.In works.
On the TV Menu I select System - 'Anynet+(HDMI-CEC)' and see that Auto Turn Off says YES, and that "Receiver" is greyed out and also says it's Off. If I try to select "Receiver" it says 'This Function is not available' (The soundbar is already powered up at this time).
On the Tools menu (Anynet+ (HDMI-CEC) there is nothing on the Device List, and Refresh only results in a 'No Device Is Found' message.

So, to recap, I can get sound via the Optical cable. If I unplug that, no sound (with the DHMI to ARC cable still connected). Having read all of this thread, I guess that ARC is not working for some reason? I have tried two Hi Speed (sold as Version 1.4a, and specifically mentioning ARC) HDMI cables. But if necessary I can get another!

As a separate question, I have now bought a BD DVD player (Sony BDP-S490) - what would be the best way to connect that, please?
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post #439 of 661
1/25/13 at 12:33pm
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Originally Posted by n9yty View Post

If you read the posts here, the "Auto On" feature seems to work for almost nobody when using AnyNet+ (HDMI-CEC is the non-branded name for it) protocol. On my LG, which calls this feature Simplink, it will turn OFF with the TV but it won't turn on. Having said that, I recall some people saying that if they skipped AnyNet+/HDMI entirely and just used the digital optical port then the Auto-On/Off feature worked for them, but then you may lose the ability to control the volume using your TV volume control.

Unfortunately, many of the things just vary too much from one model of TV to another, even though both the TV and soundbar are made by Samsung.

However, if you have AnyNet+ turned ON in your TV setup, and you also have it enabled on the soundbar, then yes, it should show up as a device in the listing on the TV. If it does not, you might try a different HDMI port or maybe even better a different HDMI cable. Lots of people in this forum have had weird problems resolved by a new HDMI cable.

For the simplest configuration, you might disconnect everything from the TV and just connect the soundbar to it with HDMI, turning AnyNet+ on for both the TV and soundbar, and seeing if they find each other.

Changing the motherboard seems awful extreme, but I suppose it could be a defect in the TV. I have a Panasonic BluRay player that supports AnyNet+/Simplink/HDMI-CEC and that shows up fine on my TV as well as the soundbar. I don't know if any of your other devices support it, but that would be a way to be sure your TV portion of the connection was working.

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OTOH, if you connect the soundbar to the TV via optical, it will power on with the TV. However, it won't power off with the TV although after about 20 min. of no signal it will power off by itself

First, thanks to all for the replies. I tried hooking up the TV to the soundbar with the opticle cable and with Anynet activated on both devices (if it matters) tried powering on the TV. The soundbar doesn't turn on. Also, through HDMI ARC hook up, the soundbar doesn't power off with the TV (tried for the purpose of testing but wont ever use this setup) Having repairman come by Monday to change motherboard under warranty. We'll see if it makes a difference. Also, is this setup supposed to do anything? - All components hooked up to HDMI ports on TV (satellite, Blu ray, Apple TV) and HDMI ARC going from TV to soundbar HDMI Output - strictly for sound. (Note - Hdmi and opticle cables are brand new) Thanks
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post #440 of 661
1/25/13 at 12:49pm
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Originally Posted by BarryCR View Post


So, to recap, I can get sound via the Optical cable. If I unplug that, no sound (with the DHMI to ARC cable still connected). Having read all of this thread, I guess that ARC is not working for some reason? I have tried two Hi Speed (sold as Version 1.4a, and specifically mentioning ARC) HDMI cables. But if necessary I can get another!

As a separate question, I have now bought a BD DVD player (Sony BDP-S490) - what would be the best way to connect that, please?

It appears you've done everything right to get ARC to work. Why it isn't is a mystery (one of many regarding this soundbar biggrin.gif)

As to the BD player, I'd suggest connecting it directly to the HDMI-in on the soundbar.
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post #441 of 661
1/25/13 at 12:55pm
Hi

I am looking at buying this soundbar and connecting it to a sky hd box and a sony s490 bluray player
I have read through the very helpful advice on connecting these devices and am a bit confused with regards
the sky hd box. I thought a sky hd box could only decode dolby digital when connected through optical, if so would I need
to connect the sky hd box to the tv through hdmi and sky hd box optical to the soundbar.

Your advice would be appreciated

Regards

Scott
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post #442 of 661
1/25/13 at 1:04pm
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Originally Posted by scoop9999 View Post

Hi

I am looking at buying this soundbar and connecting it to a sky hd box and a sony s490 bluray player
I have read through the very helpful advice on connecting these devices and am a bit confused with regards
the sky hd box. I thought a sky hd box could only decode dolby digital when connected through optical, if so would I need
to connect the sky hd box to the tv through hdmi and sky hd box optical to the soundbar.

Your advice would be appreciated

Regards

Scott

You have it right. You can connect the BD player to the soundbar via HDMI and the soundbar to the TV via HDMI. As you stated, you can connect the HD box to the TV via HDMI and the HD box to the soundbar via optical.
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post #443 of 661
1/25/13 at 1:12pm
Brilliant, thanks very much

I was a little confused as every post was saying connect sky hd box through hdmi




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Originally Posted by Doctego View Post

You have it right. You can connect the BD player to the soundbar via HDMI and the soundbar to the TV via HDMI. As you stated, you can connect the HD box to the TV via HDMI and the HD box to the soundbar via optical.
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Originally Posted by scoop9999 View Post

Hi

I am looking at buying this soundbar and connecting it to a sky hd box and a sony s490 bluray player
I have read through the very helpful advice on connecting these devices and am a bit confused with regards
the sky hd box. I thought a sky hd box could only decode dolby digital when connected through optical, if so would I need
to connect the sky hd box to the tv through hdmi and sky hd box optical to the soundbar.

Your advice would be appreciated

Regards

Scott
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post #444 of 661
1/25/13 at 1:41pm
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Brilliant, thanks very much

I was a little confused as every post was saying connect sky hd box through hdmi

Ideally, everything would be connected directly to the soundbar via HDMI but it's not possible without an HDMI switch with this soundbar. The BD player has audio that can't be passed via optical so HDMI is the better choice there.
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post #445 of 661
1/25/13 at 2:20pm
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Originally Posted by gwchoi View Post

Good news: HDMI-CEC works fine. I can control volume and turn on/off my soundbar with my LG remote. Yes. I can also turn ON my soundbar using my LG remote. However, it takes about 7 sec. for me to hear the sound from the bar after i see pictures on TV. This gap is mainly due to the the long booting time of the soundbar. Seeing most of the people cannot turn on the bar with TV remote, I'm satisfied anyway.
Glad for you, your LG model must send the HDMI-CEC "on" message, mine does not, but it's not a huge deal to do it one time for a TV viewing session.
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Originally Posted by gwchoi View Post

Bad news: ARC doesn't work even though I turned on ARC options(Simplink/Anynet+) on both sides.
I'm sure you have double-checked this, but on my LG TV there is only one HMDI port (HDMI1) that supports ARC. Make sure you have it in the right port, from reading here some are HDMI1, some HDMI2, some HDMI4, there seems to be no real definitive port number smile.gif
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post #446 of 661
1/26/13 at 4:51pm
I have the e450 in delivery.

Components: ps3, samsung tv (no arc), Mac mini

On the mac mini, I have a monoprice converter to combine optical and dvi signals and output as hdmi. I plan on sending that to the tv.

Connect ps3 to soundbar.

Connect hdmi out from soundbar to tv.

Connect optical out from tv to soundbar. Again my tv does not support arc.

Configuration look good to you guys?
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post #447 of 661
1/26/13 at 5:21pm
^^^
Seems like you've got it right. smile.gif
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post #448 of 661
1/26/13 at 6:40pm
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Originally Posted by Doctego View Post

I would connect the BD player to the HDMI IN on the sound bar and HDMI OUT from the sound bar to the TV. I would connect the HD DVR to the TV via HDMI and the DVR to the sound bar via optical.

Hello,
I connected all of my components the way Doctego said to but I don't get any sound. Is there some kind of setting on the Samsung BD3252 home theater receiver that I need to change? My TV recognizes the receiver through anynet.

Also, on the Tools menu (Anynet+ (HDMI-CEC) there is nothing on the Device List associated with my soundbar. Should the soundbar be on that device listing? The receiver does show up.

As for ARC, I am totally confused about this. My soundbar will say ARC, but my TV's HDMI is not labled ARC. I do have DVI. Is DVI the same as ARC?

Thanks in advance for any knowledgable response. I am at a loss right now.

TM
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post #449 of 661
1/27/13 at 4:41am
I have gone round and round to try to figure out the optimum working set-up for my Samsung Smart TV Cable set box, LG blu-ray, and this sound bar.

Finally, with the help of so many on this forum:

I have the Cable-box and Blu-ray hooked directly to the TV via HDMI cables. Then I have the sound bar hooked to the TV via ARC HDMI 2 connection. At this point I leave the sound bar on. That way I don't need to worry about the separate turn on. Also it'll be available to use for BT streaming (haven't gone there yet). Everything is working fine now. However, last night the TV remote wasn't working to control the volume on the sound bar and it took me hours of messing around, redoing cables and reading dozens of posts on this thread to try to diagnose the problrm. When I was about ready to pull my hair out, I unplugged the sound bar for a couple of minutes. That must of reset something, because after turning it back on, it has worked exactly like it should and recognized the ARC and Anynet as it should. So if all else fails and your system still isn't working as it should and you have the cables set up correctly, try unplugging and replugging the sound bar.

Thanks to all who have been so helpful in this thread!
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post #450 of 661
1/27/13 at 5:23am
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Originally Posted by ravenswin View Post

Hello,
I connected all of my components the way Doctego said to but I don't get any sound. Is there some kind of setting on the Samsung BD3252 home theater receiver that I need to change? My TV recognizes the receiver through anynet.

Also, on the Tools menu (Anynet+ (HDMI-CEC) there is nothing on the Device List associated with my soundbar. Should the soundbar be on that device listing? The receiver does show up.

As for ARC, I am totally confused about this. My soundbar will say ARC, but my TV's HDMI is not labled ARC. I do have DVI. Is DVI the same as ARC?

Thanks in advance for any knowledgable response. I am at a loss right now.

TM

I have a lot going on right now and wasn't able to research your BD3252. I thought that it was a stand alone BD player. May I ask why you have a 5.1 system and you want to use the soundbar instead? Unless I'm missing something, I would want to connect the HD DVR to the BD3252 via HDMI IN and then connect the BD3252 to the TV. I would take the soundbar and use it on another TV.

If you have a reason for wanting to use the soundbar instead of your 5.1 system, please let us know.
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