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post #451 of 661
1/27/13 at 8:44am
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Originally Posted by Doctego View Post

I have a lot going on right now and wasn't able to research your BD3252. I thought that it was a stand alone BD player. May I ask why you have a 5.1 system and you want to use the soundbar instead? Unless I'm missing something, I would want to connect the HD DVR to the BD3252 via HDMI IN and then connect the BD3252 to the TV. I would take the soundbar and use it on another TV.

If you have a reason for wanting to use the soundbar instead of your 5.1 system, please let us know.

My apologies Doctego for not specifying that the BD3252 was a 5.1 system in my original post. I have had the BD3252 for about a year now without the speakers. it was given to me. I thought I would use it because of the tuner as well as bluray features instead of buying 2 seperate components. Plus it compliments my Samsung TV very well.
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post #452 of 661
1/27/13 at 10:22am
Hi Ravenswin,
As you probably know by now, receivers and powered soundbars aren't meant to be used together. Is there a reason you don't want to attach speakers to the receiver? That would be your best choice, but there may be a way to make your setup work. Tackle one thing at a time here.

You should have gotten audio from the DVR. Disconnect the HDMI cable between the soundbar and the TV and disconnect the receiver from the soundbar. Connect DVR to TV via HDMI. Connect TV to soundbar via optical. Change your speaker settings on the TV to "external". You should have audio from the soundbar (the D.IN input). Once that's working, try the following for the receiver.

Connect the receiver via HDMI to an input on the TV. Change the HDMI audio setting on the receiver to "ON". That sends both video and audio to the TV. You should hear audio from the soundbar when you play a DVD.
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post #453 of 661
1/27/13 at 7:43pm
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Originally Posted by Possumgirl View Post

Hi Ravenswin,
As you probably know by now, receivers and powered soundbars aren't meant to be used together. Is there a reason you don't want to attach speakers to the receiver? That would be your best choice, but there may be a way to make your setup work. Tackle one thing at a time here.

You should have gotten audio from the DVR. Disconnect the HDMI cable between the soundbar and the TV and disconnect the receiver from the soundbar. Connect DVR to TV via HDMI. Connect TV to soundbar via optical. Change your speaker settings on the TV to "external". You should have audio from the soundbar (the D.IN input). Once that's working, try the following for the receiver.

Connect the receiver via HDMI to an input on the TV. Change the HDMI audio setting on the receiver to "ON". That sends both video and audio to the TV. You should hear audio from the soundbar when you play a DVD.

Thank you for your response Possumgirl. As stated, I have had this receiver for about a year now. It was given to me without the speakers, a remote and wireless lan adapter. I have ordered the wireless lan and remote this weekend. As per Samsung, I can get into the menu settings, but I will need the remote. I also plan on updating the firmware which means I need a wireless lan adapter for the BD3252. I think once I get these items, I will be able to gain access to the audio.

The reason why I am going with this unit as opposed to a regular BD player is that I have an FM tuner on this unit whereas I would have to buy both seperate components.

I would personally like to thank both Doctego and Possumgirl for your assistance. Without it, I wouldn't be as far as I am now.

Thank you
Edited by ravenswin - 1/28/13 at 9:10am
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post #454 of 661
1/28/13 at 9:06am
Hello,

Samsung HW-E450 with Samsung ES8000 and Samsung E6500 BD + HD PVR Satellite Box and Android Streaming box.

Currently connected PVR HDMI OUT to HW-E450 IN and HW-E450 OUT to ES8000 HDMI2 (ARC).
Computer connected to ES8000 HDMI1 (PC)
BD connected to HDMI3
Android TV connect to HDMI1 (IN) of BD. allowed pass through to avoid turning on BD.

Turn on TV and PVR...... HW-E450 must be turned on manually... after a few seconds HW-E450 switches to TV ARC by itself which is very annoying and I see that I am not the only one having this issue!!! soundbar does go off when I power off the TV.

If I use the optical cable instead I cannot control the sound with my PVR remote...

from what I read I should be doing this instead;

DB HDMI OUT to HW-E450 IN..... HW-E450 OUT to ES8000 HDMI2 (ARC).
PVR HDMI OUT to ES8000 HDMI3 + Optical OUT to HW-E450 Optical IN.
Computer stays connected to ES8000 HDMI1 (PC)
Android TV stays connected to BD HDMI1 (IN)

Any advice will be welcomed and thanks in Advance.

Shling.
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post #455 of 661
1/28/13 at 9:26am
I'm new to soundbars and considering this one for my living room with an 80" Sharp.

I've noticed on my Panny 50" plasma, a lot of movies have the sound effects and background music a lot louder than the dialogue, so it's hard to hear what people are saying. Does this soundbar allow selective increase of dialogue volume?

Has anyone experienced audio/video sync issues and if so, how can this be adjusted without a receiver?

Also the pictures show the speakers completely exposed. Don't soundbars usually have some kind of nylon mesh covering to protect the speakers?

Lastly, is HDMI with ARC or Digital Audio the better way to connect to the TV?
Edited by Bill McNeal - 1/28/13 at 9:40am
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post #456 of 661
1/28/13 at 4:08pm
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Originally Posted by Bill McNeal View Post

I'm new to soundbars and considering this one for my living room with an 80" Sharp.

I've noticed on my Panny 50" plasma, a lot of movies have the sound effects and background music a lot louder than the dialogue, so it's hard to hear what people are saying. Does this soundbar allow selective increase of dialogue volume?

Has anyone experienced audio/video sync issues and if so, how can this be adjusted without a receiver?

Also the pictures show the speakers completely exposed. Don't soundbars usually have some kind of nylon mesh covering to protect the speakers?

Lastly, is HDMI with ARC or Digital Audio the better way to connect to the TV?

I'm by no means an expert so if others give you different recommendations, I'll defer to their expertise.

There isn't selective increase of dialogue volume but the sound bar offers "sound effect" which has different types of options such as music, cinema, news, game, sports, drama. This gives a variety of options for listening. I like the drama effect which offers crisp dialogue as well as decent bass in the background. The background doesn't overwhelm the dialogue. The other option under 3D sound gives some further separation but can't be used in conjunction with the effects.

Most of the other brand sound bars do have the nylon mesh. I would rather have the mesh covering but still do like this sound bar.

I haven't noticed any audio/video sync issues but there is a adjustment for that if you need it.

Also, my preference for hook up is the HDMI to ARC.

This is by no means a substitute for a full surround system but offers decent sound to pair up with my new TV.
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post #457 of 661
1/28/13 at 4:19pm
So what are your favorite settings for this sound bar?

So far for me, I like using the "Drama" effect with the sub woofer at +4. This seems to give crisp voice dialogue along with rich sounding bass. Some of the other settings to me sounded either tinny or echoey.

What are you all finding that works best for you?
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post #458 of 661
1/28/13 at 6:38pm
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Originally Posted by nhwhazup View Post

So what are your favorite settings for this sound bar?

So far for me, I like using the "Drama" effect with the sub woofer at +4. This seems to give crisp voice dialogue along with rich sounding bass. Some of the other settings to me sounded either tinny or echoey.

What are you all finding that works best for you?

I have my sources connected directly to the soundbar via HDMI. Unless I am watching a movie, I usually don't get a lot of bass. I usually have it on Cinema, +6 bass, and 3D sound low.
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post #459 of 661
1/29/13 at 1:34am
One thing that I want to mention is that the "Smart volume" feature actually seemed work the opposite of what we expected. I take that it is there to keep the volume fairly even across TV shows and commercials. What we found it to actually do, is to have the sound initially come in with a loud quick burst and then get quieter to the normal volume. It happened even during the same show or commercial, in between sentences spoken. Turning the "Smart volume" off fixed that awful quick blast of volume.

Wanted to share in case anyone else had the same issue.
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post #460 of 661
1/29/13 at 5:44pm
Just picked up the E450 and a 55ES7100. Yesterday the bar was working just fine, but when I turned everything on today I am no longer getting audio. My connection is:

Cable box-->TV HDMI 1
Roku --> TV HDMI 3
TV HDMI 2 (ARC) --> Sound bar audio out

Now no audio comes out of the bar, even though it did last night, so I have no idea what could have changed. I've tried everything, and the only thing that seems to work is to if I add another HDMI cable that goes back to the TV. I'd prefer not to do this because then my Roku doesn't work. I don't have an optical cable.

Any ideas? Any settings that may have reset over night? The Samsung manuals are basically worthless when it comes to AnyNet.
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post #461 of 661
1/29/13 at 6:35pm
After playing with it for 2 hours, I finally got it working.

Just in case the same problem happens to anyone else, all I did was use the TV remote and changed source to HDMI 2 ARC, then flipped back over to HDMI 1 where the cable box is plugged into. Switching over to HDMI2 then back seems to have jarred it into working. Hopefully no more glitches like that arise.
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post #462 of 661
1/29/13 at 9:04pm
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Originally Posted by Possumgirl View Post

Hi Ravenswin,
Connect the receiver via HDMI to an input on the TV. Change the HDMI audio setting on the receiver to "ON". That sends both video and audio to the TV. You should hear audio from the soundbar when you play a DVD.

Hi,
STATUS UPDATE!!!! I have tried hooking up the receiver and it worked by turning the HDMI audio to the "on" setting. I was elated when I heard sound through the soundbar. However, for some reason the home theater won't hold the on setting which pretty much stinks. But hey, it works.

Also, Samsung stated that you should be able to run any Samsung Home Theater Receiver through the soundbar without any problems. I will take that with a grain of salt. They were insistent that there was no audio HDMI setting to turn on.

Thanks again for your help.
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post #463 of 661
1/29/13 at 10:29pm
I just purchased the e450, now I need some help hooking it up? As the manual isn't the clearest. I have a 55inch Samsung un55c6300 no arc, I have a AT&T unverse DVR, a ps3 used as my Blu ray player as well. DVR and ps3 are hooked up via hdmi. What is best way to hook this up so I get sound for all devices etc? Thanks in advance for all your help.
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post #464 of 661
1/30/13 at 3:19am
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Originally Posted by cmanuli View Post

I just purchased the e450, now I need some help hooking it up? As the manual isn't the clearest. I have a 55inch Samsung un55c6300 no arc, I have a AT&T unverse DVR, a ps3 used as my Blu ray player as well. DVR and ps3 are hooked up via hdmi. What is best way to hook this up so I get sound for all devices etc? Thanks in advance for all your help.

Assuming that your DVR has an optical out, I would connect the PS3 to the soundbar via HDMI, the soundbar to the TV via HDMI, the DVR to the TV via HDMI, and the DVR to the soundbar via optical.
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post #465 of 661
1/30/13 at 8:18am
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Originally Posted by Doctego View Post

Assuming that your DVR has an optical out, I would connect the PS3 to the soundbar via HDMI, the soundbar to the TV via HDMI, the DVR to the TV via HDMI, and the DVR to the soundbar via optical.

So I would do ps3 out hdmi to hdmi in on sound bar, hdmi out On sound bar to tv via hdmi, DVR out via hdmi to tv, and optical from DVR to sound bar as well, so using 2 connections out of the DVR?
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post #466 of 661
1/30/13 at 1:17pm
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Originally Posted by cmanuli View Post

So I would do ps3 out hdmi to hdmi in on sound bar, hdmi out On sound bar to tv via hdmi, DVR out via hdmi to tv, and optical from DVR to sound bar as well, so using 2 connections out of the DVR?

Yes. The HDMI connection to the TV from the DVR gives you video (and audio if you ever bypass the soundbar) and the optical connection gives you audio through the soundbar.
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post #467 of 661
1/31/13 at 12:21pm
I'm having trouble getting sound from my HW-E450. I have a Samsung UE46ES6300 TV, Humax PVR connected to the TV via SCART cable (my Humax does not have HDMI) and a DVD player (also no HDMI) which is connected to the Humax (but is mostly switched off).

What is the best set-up to get sound from the soundbar with my equipment, which cables go where and what source settings do I need on the TV and soundbar?
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post #468 of 661
1/31/13 at 12:38pm
Since your source devices don't have HDMI you'll need to leave them connected as they are. Just run an optical cable out from your TV to the soundbar. Check your TV settings to see if you need to change speakers from "TV" to "external".
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post #469 of 661
1/31/13 at 4:09pm
I'm hoping someone here can help me get the bar hooked up properly - I've read every post here but can't seem to figure it out. My setup is pretty straightforward and consists of:

un55es7100
Roku box
Cable box

I ran an HDMI cable from the TV ARC port to the soundbar HDMI out port - and that's it, just one cable between the bar and TV. The cable and Roku boxes are connected directly to my TV and do not directly go to the soundbar.

I've disabled the TV speakers and turned on the AnyNet, but not getting any sound. The weird thing is the very first hooked everything up it worked just fine. The next day - nothing. I've since hooked up an optical cable and it works, but I'd rather be able to control the volume with the TV remote.

Is just one HDMI cable between the TV and bar the correct way to hook up the system? If it is, then I'm wondering if there's something wrong with either the TV or bar.

Thanks in advance.
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post #470 of 661
1/31/13 at 5:53pm
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Originally Posted by wine0holic View Post

After playing with it for 2 hours, I finally got it working.

Just in case the same problem happens to anyone else, all I did was use the TV remote and changed source to HDMI 2 ARC, then flipped back over to HDMI 1 where the cable box is plugged into. Switching over to HDMI2 then back seems to have jarred it into working. Hopefully no more glitches like that arise.

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Originally Posted by wine0holic View Post

I'm hoping someone here can help me get the bar hooked up properly - I've read every post here but can't seem to figure it out. My setup is pretty straightforward and consists of:

un55es7100
Roku box
Cable box

I ran an HDMI cable from the TV ARC port to the soundbar HDMI out port - and that's it, just one cable between the bar and TV. The cable and Roku boxes are connected directly to my TV and do not directly go to the soundbar.

I've disabled the TV speakers and turned on the AnyNet, but not getting any sound. The weird thing is the very first hooked everything up it worked just fine. The next day - nothing. I've since hooked up an optical cable and it works, but I'd rather be able to control the volume with the TV remote.

Is just one HDMI cable between the TV and bar the correct way to hook up the system? If it is, then I'm wondering if there's something wrong with either the TV or bar.

Thanks in advance.

I thought from your earlier post that you'd found a way to "kickstart" it. Obviously that shouldn't be necessary, but it now sounds like it has stopped working again?

The single HDMI cable between the ARC ports should be all that's required. Have you tried using a different cable? It does need to be high-speed. Other than trying that, a call to Samsung would be in order. Frankly from reading others' posts here, I'm not sure how much they can help either but you should definitely try it.

When you are trying to get it to work, or when it actually did, does the soundbar show ARC.IN as the input? If not, what does it display?
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post #471 of 661
1/31/13 at 6:16pm
Yeah it was working temporarily but then mysteriously stopped working again that same night.

I also thought it was a cable issue and got a new high-speed version today but it also did not work. I have since connected with optical and have been getting good sound since. Interestingly, there seems to be some sort of ARC communication because I can now adjust the volume with the TV remote even though the bar is set to optical, which is not how I thought ARC works at all.

I don't recall the bar ever displaying ARC.IN as the input. I think it said HDMI. Currently the bar says D.IN.

Fortunately I bought the bar at Best Buy, so it sounds like an exchange might be in order this weekend. I just hope it's not the TV.
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post #472 of 661
1/31/13 at 6:25pm
You can adjust sound because Anynet+ is, apparently, working. ARC is like an additional feature of HDMI-CTL (CEC) so it's possible for the basic functions to work and still have ARC trouble. When you just had the ARC connection (no optical), if the bar's readout said HDMI, did you try changing input with the bar's remote to D.IN? It's my understanding that that input is used for both optical D.IN and HDMI ARC.IN. When the bar display reads "HDMI" that's for whatever is connected directly to the bar.

If you exchange it hopefully the next one will work perfect. smile.gif
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post #473 of 661
1/31/13 at 6:36pm
Just unplugged the optical and switched over to D.IN. The bar still recognizes the Anynet+ commands but still no audio. Oh well, looks like this one is going back.

Glad to know I have it connected correctly, thanks for the help.
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post #474 of 661
1/31/13 at 6:40pm
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Originally Posted by wine0holic View Post

Just unplugged the optical and switched over to D.IN. The bar still recognizes the Anynet+ commands but still no audio. Oh well, looks like this one is going back.

Glad to know I have it connected correctly, thanks for the help.

I'm late to the dance but have you tried these connections? HDMI OUT from the Roku to HDMI IN on the soundbar. HDMI OUT from the soundbar to the TV. HDMI OUT from the cable box to the TV and optical OUT from the cable box to the soundbar. This may buy you some time before you return it.
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post #475 of 661
1/31/13 at 7:42pm
Hi. I just got the Samsung HW-E450 soundbar today and I have spent all day trying to set it up. However, no matter what I try, no sound seems to project. At least not from my TV (Samsung ln32d403e4d.) The speakers work, because I was able to use the Bluetooth function to play music from my phone. But neither an HDMI cable nor the Aux cable that comes with the soundbar seem to work.

I want to primarily use the soundbar for television programs and for Wii games. However, the Wii has no HDMI slot, which means I cannot directly connect it to the soundbar. And my television doesn't seem to have an HDMI Arc outlet (though it has a regular HDMI and HDMI [DVI] slot.) There is also no optical outlet on my tv.. So literally my only choices of connection seem to be HDMI and Aux, yet neither one provides sound from the soundbar. Am I basically screwed because my television is incompatible?
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post #476 of 661
1/31/13 at 8:02pm
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Originally Posted by t-20-07 View Post

Hi. I just got the Samsung HW-E450 soundbar today and I have spent all day trying to set it up. However, no matter what I try, no sound seems to project. At least not from my TV (Samsung ln32d403e4d.) The speakers work, because I was able to use the Bluetooth function to play music from my phone. But neither an HDMI cable nor the Aux cable that comes with the soundbar seem to work.

I want to primarily use the soundbar for television programs and for Wii games. However, the Wii has no HDMI slot, which means I cannot directly connect it to the soundbar. And my television doesn't seem to have an HDMI Arc outlet (though it has a regular HDMI and HDMI [DVI] slot.) There is also no optical outlet on my tv.. So literally my only choices of connection seem to be HDMI and Aux, yet neither one provides sound from the soundbar. Am I basically screwed because my television is incompatible?

What source do you have for normal TV viewing? Do you have a cable box? Please be as specific as possible. If you have a cable box, you can connect the HDMI OUT from the cable box to HDMI IN on the soundbar. Then, connect HDMI OUT from the soundbar to an HDMI input on your TV. What outputs does your Wii have? If it has an optical output, you can connect that from the Wii to the soundbar. If not, please provide additional information.

You can always connect the supplied cable from the AUDIO OUT on your TV to the AUX input on the soundbar but I'd rather explore other options first.
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post #477 of 661
1/31/13 at 8:53pm
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Originally Posted by Doctego View Post

What source do you have for normal TV viewing? Do you have a cable box? Please be as specific as possible. If you have a cable box, you can connect the HDMI OUT from the cable box to HDMI IN on the soundbar. Then, connect HDMI OUT from the soundbar to an HDMI input on your TV. What outputs does your Wii have? If it has an optical output, you can connect that from the Wii to the soundbar. If not, please provide additional information.

You can always connect the supplied cable from the AUDIO OUT on your TV to the AUX input on the soundbar but I'd rather explore other options first.

I have cable through the walls; no cable box to connect to. As for the Wii, only USB ports seem to be on it. No optical output nor HDMI.

And I'm afraid I don't really understand that second option you listed. Though what I gathered from it, it sounds like there will be a loss of audio quality, no?
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post #478 of 661
2/1/13 at 3:36am
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Originally Posted by t-20-07 View Post

I have cable through the walls; no cable box to connect to. As for the Wii, only USB ports seem to be on it. No optical output nor HDMI.

And I'm afraid I don't really understand that second option you listed. Though what I gathered from it, it sounds like there will be a loss of audio quality, no?

So you have a TV and Wii with no HDMI/ARC and no optical output? That really limits your options. How do you have your Wii connected to your TV? I'm guessing with audio/video cables (3 cables - red, white, and yellow) or component cables (5 cables).

I think that your options are limited to connecting the audio output from the Wii directly to the sound bar (if you use either of the options that I listed above) or you can use the AUDIO OUT from your TV. You seem confused so let me expand. Take the supplied cable. Connect the red and white plugs to the red and white AUDIO OUT on your TV. Take the other end and plug that into the AUX input on the sound bar. It is a single plug. Will there be a "loss" of audio quality? Yes and no. Yes because this isn't ideal. Connecting your sources directly via a digital source is best so you can utilize DD and DTS. No because you have no audio now so you are not losing anything. This is a 2.1 sound bar so you aren't missing out on true surround or anything. You don't have a way to compare it to anything so I would recommend giving it a shot. My guess is that it will sound good, probably very good, but just not great. It will definitely sound better than your TV's speakers, though.
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post #479 of 661
2/1/13 at 6:51am
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Originally Posted by Doctego View Post

So you have a TV and Wii with no HDMI/ARC and no optical output? That really limits your options. How do you have your Wii connected to your TV? I'm guessing with audio/video cables (3 cables - red, white, and yellow) or component cables (5 cables).

I think that your options are limited to connecting the audio output from the Wii directly to the sound bar (if you use either of the options that I listed above) or you can use the AUDIO OUT from your TV. You seem confused so let me expand. Take the supplied cable. Connect the red and white plugs to the red and white AUDIO OUT on your TV. Take the other end and plug that into the AUX input on the sound bar. It is a single plug. Will there be a "loss" of audio quality? Yes and no. Yes because this isn't ideal. Connecting your sources directly via a digital source is best so you can utilize DD and DTS. No because you have no audio now so you are not losing anything. This is a 2.1 sound bar so you aren't missing out on true surround or anything. You don't have a way to compare it to anything so I would recommend giving it a shot. My guess is that it will sound good, probably very good, but just not great. It will definitely sound better than your TV's speakers, though.
Yeah, my options are miserably limited. The Wii connects to the tv with audio/video cables and theres only enough room to have one red and one white cable connected. So if I use the cable the comes with the sound bar and use the Aux option, then there is no way to connect the Wii's audio the either the sound bar or the tv. Keep in mind the TV does have HDMI slots, just none of them are "ARC." However, even disregarding the Wii, I already tried what you just told me (if Im understanding correctly) and I tried connecting the sound bar to the tv with the red and white audio cable that came with the bar. The sound still fails to work for some reason though
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post #480 of 661
2/1/13 at 7:13am
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Originally Posted by Doctego View Post

So you have a TV and Wii with no HDMI/ARC and no optical output? That really limits your options. How do you have your Wii connected to your TV? I'm guessing with audio/video cables (3 cables - red, white, and yellow) or component cables (5 cables).

I think that your options are limited to connecting the audio output from the Wii directly to the sound bar (if you use either of the options that I listed above) or you can use the AUDIO OUT from your TV. You seem confused so let me expand. Take the supplied cable. Connect the red and white plugs to the red and white AUDIO OUT on your TV. Take the other end and plug that into the AUX input on the sound bar. It is a single plug. Will there be a "loss" of audio quality? Yes and no. Yes because this isn't ideal. Connecting your sources directly via a digital source is best so you can utilize DD and DTS. No because you have no audio now so you are not losing anything. This is a 2.1 sound bar so you aren't missing out on true surround or anything. You don't have a way to compare it to anything so I would recommend giving it a shot. My guess is that it will sound good, probably very good, but just not great. It will definitely sound better than your TV's speakers, though.

My options are indeed miserably limited. The Wii connects to the TV with audio/video cables, and the TV only has enough slots for one red cable and one white cable. This means that I cannot connect the Wii and the Aux cable that came with the sound bar at the same time to the TV. Keep in mind that the television does have two HDMI slots, just that neither one is labeled ARC.

Honestly, I'll take any working sound quality at this point. If I understand what you're saying correctly, then I already tried that method. I tried connecting the TV and sound bar with the supplied "white and red" cable that came with the sound bar, but still no sound came from the sound bar. There was a subtle white noise that did come from the speaker, but no real audio. And if that somehow becomes my only working method of connection, does that mean I can't have the Wii and sound bar connected to the TV at the same time?
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