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post #481 of 729
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Originally Posted by t-20-07 View Post

My options are indeed miserably limited. The Wii connects to the TV with audio/video cables, and the TV only has enough slots for one red cable and one white cable. This means that I cannot connect the Wii and the Aux cable that came with the sound bar at the same time to the TV. Keep in mind that the television does have two HDMI slots, just that neither one is labeled ARC.

Honestly, I'll take any working sound quality at this point. If I understand what you're saying correctly, then I already tried that method. I tried connecting the TV and sound bar with the supplied "white and red" cable that came with the sound bar, but still no sound came from the sound bar. There was a subtle white noise that did come from the speaker, but no real audio. And if that somehow becomes my only working method of connection, does that mean I can't have the Wii and sound bar connected to the TV at the same time?

Sorry to say, but you are kind of up the crick with no paddle. Your TV has NO audio out connections. Zip. Nada. For the Wii you can work around this by taking the red/white audio cable and connecting it directly from the Wii to the AUX input on the soundbar, so you have video going to the TV and audio going to the soundbar.

However, there is nothing you can do about your current cable input since it's coax direct from the wall. Contact your cable provider and see about getting a cable box with HDMI output. It may be relatively inexpensive (or not). If it won't add too much cost for you, you could then connect the cable box directly to the soundbar via HDMI and use a second HDMI cable to connect the soundbar to your TV.

Those seem to be the only choices you have right now.
post #482 of 729
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Originally Posted by Possumgirl View Post

Sorry to say, but you are kind of up the crick with no paddle. Your TV has NO audio out connections. Zip. Nada. For the Wii you can work around this by taking the red/white audio cable and connecting it directly from the Wii to the AUX input on the soundbar, so you have video going to the TV and audio going to the soundbar.

However, there is nothing you can do about your current cable input since it's coax direct from the wall. Contact your cable provider and see about getting a cable box with HDMI output. It may be relatively inexpensive (or not). If it won't add too much cost for you, you could then connect the cable box directly to the soundbar via HDMI and use a second HDMI cable to connect the soundbar to your TV.

Those seem to be the only choices you have right now.

Thank you very much. So from what I understand, a TV to soundbar connection does nothing without connecting the soundbar to the very source, correct? That's fine. I rarely watch TV anyway, so as long as I can get the sound to work with the Wii, that would be great. Which cable do I put in the soundbar's Aux slot though? The red or the white? Because there's only one Aux input that I see. Also, what is the purpose of the Aux cable that comes with the sound bar if connecting it to the TV does nothing?
post #483 of 729
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Originally Posted by t-20-07 View Post

Thank you very much. So from what I understand, a TV to soundbar connection does nothing without connecting the soundbar to the very source, correct?
Most TVs have one or more audio-out connectors so there would be various method to connect the TV to the soundbar. Unfortunately, your TV comes up short on this.
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That's fine. I rarely watch TV anyway, so as long as I can get the sound to work with the Wii, that would be great. Which cable do I put in the soundbar's Aux slot though? The red or the white? Because there's only one Aux input that I see.
Sorry, I assumed the Aux input on the bar was also red/white. I see it is not, but I can't tell from the diagram if it's a 3.5mm jack or what. Hopefully, Doctego will be back and can answer this since he has this soundbar. I don't. smile.gif
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Also, what is the purpose of the Aux cable that comes with the sound bar if connecting it to the TV does nothing?
Good question. I have no idea why they include an analog cable. eek.gif
post #484 of 729
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Also, what is the purpose of the Aux cable that comes with the sound bar if connecting it to the TV does nothing?

Your TV is 1 of the select few that doesn't have analog audio out. For most other TV's, this cable would work fine.

As for connecting the Wii, I believe that your Wii is connected via audio/video cables. What I would do is connect the yellow video cable to the TV, as you probably already have. Then, I would use the supplied cable and connect the red & white plugs to the Wii and the single 3.5mm plug on the other end to the AUX input on your soundbar. Make sure to choose AUX with the SAT SOURCE button on the soundbar.
post #485 of 729
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Originally Posted by Doctego View Post

Your TV is 1 of the select few that doesn't have analog audio out. For most other TV's, this cable would work fine.

As for connecting the Wii, I believe that your Wii is connected via audio/video cables. What I would do is connect the yellow video cable to the TV, as you probably already have. Then, I would use the supplied cable and connect the red & white plugs to the Wii and the single 3.5mm plug on the other end to the AUX input on your soundbar. Make sure to choose AUX with the SAT SOURCE button on the soundbar.

What a shame that this TV is lacking in so much. By the sounds of it, the sound bar is completely useless with this television. There are no inputs on the Wii to insert the red and white plugs. There's only the output cable to connect the red and white cables from the Wii to another source. Why doesn't the HDMI work? If I got a PlayStation 3, the HDMI system should supposedly work then? But the final verdict stands that it's currently impossible for me to use the sound bar with just the television or the Wii given what I already have?
post #486 of 729
Bought this for a bedroom, and it is an improvement over tv speakers, but really not going to knock your socks off.. I am satisfied for it's purpose, but certainly not blown away. What settings are others using? I've simply turned my TV to external speakers, and have this on D.Input with only an optical cable linking the two. Seemed to be the easiest way to make it work with my Harmony 650 activities for that room. I've got it on "Drama", with the Sub "cranked". My Blu-ray player and tv should have the ARC and AnyNet but couldn't seem to get everything to play nice using any of that with "activiites" on remote... so this works fine for my needs.
post #487 of 729
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Originally Posted by t-20-07 View Post

What a shame that this TV is lacking in so much. By the sounds of it, the sound bar is completely useless with this television. There are no inputs on the Wii to insert the red and white plugs. There's only the output cable to connect the red and white cables from the Wii to another source. Why doesn't the HDMI work? If I got a PlayStation 3, the HDMI system should supposedly work then? But the final verdict stands that it's currently impossible for me to use the sound bar with just the television or the Wii given what I already have?

That's what we're talking about. Instead of connecting the audio to your TV, connect directly to the AUX input on the soundbar. Is the cable that came with the soundbar a "Y" cable? Red/white RCA plugs on one end and a single 3.5mm plug on the other? If so use it. If not, get one.
post #488 of 729
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Originally Posted by Possumgirl View Post

That's what we're talking about. Instead of connecting the audio to your TV, connect directly to the AUX input on the soundbar. Is the cable that came with the soundbar a "Y" cable? Red/white RCA plugs on one end and a single 3.5mm plug on the other? If so use it. If not, get one.

Exactly. I could see someone being a little confused here but connecting the yellow video cable from the Wii to the TV provides video to the TV and connecting the supplied cable from the Wii to the soundbar provides audio.

I am quite sure that he has the proper cable.
post #489 of 729
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Originally Posted by CMonMan View Post

Bought this for a bedroom, and it is an improvement over tv speakers, but really not going to knock your socks off.. I am satisfied for it's purpose, but certainly not blown away. What settings are others using? I've simply turned my TV to external speakers, and have this on D.Input with only an optical cable linking the two. Seemed to be the easiest way to make it work with my Harmony 650 activities for that room. I've got it on "Drama", with the Sub "cranked". My Blu-ray player and tv should have the ARC and AnyNet but couldn't seem to get everything to play nice using any of that with "activiites" on remote... so this works fine for my needs.

Do you have a cable box connected to your TV? Before I ramble on, I want to verify that first. This soundbar won't knock your socks off with normal use but mine brings my wife out of the bedroom at a volume of 13. 15+ and she's running out.biggrin.gif

My sub is turned all the way up, I have 3D sound set to low, and I prefer the Cinema setting.
post #490 of 729
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Originally Posted by Doctego View Post

Exactly. I could see someone being a little confused here but connecting the yellow video cable from the Wii to the TV provides video to the TV and connecting the supplied cable from the Wii to the soundbar provides audio.

I am quite sure that he has the proper cable.

Oh. The way I read it, you said to put the red and white into the Wii and the singly jack into the Aux on the sound bar. Even being reversed, which color would I put in the single Aux on the sound bar? There is only one input.
post #491 of 729
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Originally Posted by Doctego View Post

Do you have a cable box connected to your TV? Before I ramble on, I want to verify that first. This soundbar won't knock your socks off with normal use but mine brings my wife out of the bedroom at a volume of 13. 15+ and she's running out.biggrin.gif

My sub is turned all the way up, I have 3D sound set to low, and I prefer the Cinema setting.

No cable box in that room, just an OTA antenna and a blu ray player. Don't get me wrong, it is a definite improvement over the tv speakers, just sounded better in the store I guess. I am used to 5.1 systems and I knew not to expect that, but hoped it would fill the room more. at low volume, it is pretty good, but sounds like a boombox at higher volumes.. I don't know how to explain it.. it gets loud, but doesn't sound as good as I had hoped at louder volumes. I think I was just expecting too much out of it, as it certainly is sufficient for what it is.
post #492 of 729
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Originally Posted by t-20-07 View Post

Oh. The way I read it, you said to put the red and white into the Wii and the singly jack into the Aux on the sound bar. Even being reversed, which color would I put in the single Aux on the sound bar? There is only one input.

That's exactly what I said.

Let's back up a minute. Do you currently have a cable going from the Wii to the TV that has red, white, and yellow plugs? If so, unplug the red and white plugs only. Then, plug the red and white plugs from the cable that came with your soundbar into the Wii. Take the other end of that cable and plug it into the AUX input on your soundbar. That should be it.

Just so we're 100% clear, you should have gotten one of these with your soundbar:

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10218&cs_id=1021804&p_id=665&seq=1&format=2

If that link doesn't work, search for item #665.
Edited by Doctego - 2/1/13 at 1:11pm
post #493 of 729
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Originally Posted by CMonMan View Post

No cable box in that room, just an OTA antenna and a blu ray player. Don't get me wrong, it is a definite improvement over the tv speakers, just sounded better in the store I guess. I am used to 5.1 systems and I knew not to expect that, but hoped it would fill the room more. at low volume, it is pretty good, but sounds like a boombox at higher volumes.. I don't know how to explain it.. it gets loud, but doesn't sound as good as I had hoped at louder volumes. I think I was just expecting too much out of it, as it certainly is sufficient for what it is.

Personally, I would connect the BD player to the soundbar via HDMI and then connect HDMI OUT from the soundbar to the TV. I would also connect the TV to the soundbar via optical. This will ensure that you get the best sound quality from your BD player. When using your BD player, change the source to HDMI. When watching TV, change it to D.IN.
post #494 of 729
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Originally Posted by Doctego View Post

That's exactly what I said.

Let's back up a minute. Do you currently have a cable going from the Wii to the TV that has red, white, and yellow plugs? If so, unplug the red and white plugs only. Then, plug the red and white plugs from the cable that came with your soundbar into the Wii. Take the other end of that cable and plug it into the AUX input on your soundbar. That should be it.

Okay, then we're on the same page. The problem remains that there is no input on the Wii to plug in the red and white plugs.
post #495 of 729
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Originally Posted by t-20-07 View Post

Okay, then we're on the same page. The problem remains that there is no input on the Wii to plug in the red and white plugs.

I wish that you mentioned this before. Does the Wii have an adapter that connects uniquely into the Wii with a special plug and then has red, white, and yellow plugs on the other end?
post #496 of 729
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Originally Posted by t-20-07 View Post

Okay, then we're on the same page. The problem remains that there is no input on the Wii to plug in the red and white plugs.

STOP! How is the Wii currently connected to your TV? What cables are being used? Red? White? Yellow? or maybe component?
post #497 of 729
Hello everyone,
Just bought the HW-E450c from Costco. So far I really like it. Played the opening scene in total recall on cinema mode and 3D on high and both sounded a lot better than I expected. Curious about subwoofer placement. Should the subwoofer be close to the tv or close to the viewer? Also, what settings are you guys using and why? I am going to read through this thread and see what people have posted but so far I really like it. Still haven't decided whether I want to wall mount it under my GT50 or just place it on the stand. Thanks.
post #498 of 729
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Originally Posted by CMonMan View Post

Bought this for a bedroom, and it is an improvement over tv speakers, but really not going to knock your socks off.. I am satisfied for it's purpose, but certainly not blown away. What settings are others using? I've simply turned my TV to external speakers, and have this on D.Input with only an optical cable linking the two. Seemed to be the easiest way to make it work with my Harmony 650 activities for that room. I've got it on "Drama", with the Sub "cranked". My Blu-ray player and tv should have the ARC and AnyNet but couldn't seem to get everything to play nice using any of that with "activiites" on remote... so this works fine for my needs.

I have this sound bar in a small living room 13x 14. I've messed around with all the settings and my preferences for crisp audio along with decent bass:

TV ARC
Smart volume - off
3D Sound - high
Sub woofer +4
post #499 of 729
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Originally Posted by Doctego View Post

I wish that you mentioned this before. Does the Wii have an adapter that connects uniquely into the Wii with a special plug and then has red, white, and yellow plugs on the other end?

I did mention it in reply to your previous suggestion! I will have to look into such adapter though. Would there be a more specific name for such a product?
post #500 of 729
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Originally Posted by Possumgirl View Post

STOP! How is the Wii currently connected to your TV? What cables are being used? Red? White? Yellow? or maybe component?

Yes, it connects to the TV via the red, white, and yellow plugs, except only ONE side of the cable has those three plugs. The other size is a single rectangular shape specifically made to fit the Wii.
post #501 of 729
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Originally Posted by t-20-07 View Post

Yes, it connects to the TV via the red, white, and yellow plugs, except only ONE side of the cable has those three plugs. The other size is a single rectangular shape specifically made to fit the Wii.

Click that link that I posted above for Monoprice. I believe that the adapter that you need is #666. You want to connect the male red and white audio cables from your Wii cable into this adapter. You want 2 female RCA on 1 side and 1 3.5mm plug on the other side. Radio Shack should have it if you have a store near you. You could bring the Wii cable with you to show it to the salesman.
post #502 of 729
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Originally Posted by Doctego View Post

Click that link that I posted above for Monoprice. I believe that the adapter that you need is #666. You want to connect the male red and white audio cables from your Wii cable into this adapter. You want 2 female RCA on 1 side and 1 3.5mm plug on the other side. Radio Shack should have it if you have a store near you. You could bring the Wii cable with you to show it to the salesman.

Perfect!! I will look into it! Thanks a lot for your patience and help [:
post #503 of 729
The Samsung HW450 Versus Sony Soundbar HT-CT260 Face-off:

After having a week home trial of both the Samsung HW450 Soundbar and the Sony HT-CT260 Soundbar, the Sony won.

The soundbar was to replace my Samsung plasma 32 inch native speakers and both did a better job that's for sure.

First, I bought the Sony from Best Buy at under $300, not bad at all (they often go for $350 before tax). I was really impressed with the difference from my native TV speakers. After selecting 'Cinema/Movie' setting on both and a little tweaking of the sub and treble I was off.
Though being highly impressed by the Sony's sound I was initially a little put off by the size and width of the hexagonal shape, especially to mount it on my wall or tv stand.
SO eager to test another before having to return the Sony I went to Future Shop.
I spoke to an employee at Future Shop what they thought of both bars and they highly recommended the Samsung soundbar mostly due to some customers feedback and the reviews online versus the Sony HT-CT260 so I also purchased the HW450 with the hope it would replace my Sony.

I liked the sleekness of the Samsung , the extra options for connections and reviews are generally very good.

Note that both have Bluetooth for music streaming, great if you don't have a 'Hi-Fi' like us. The Sony doesn't have HDMI only Optical and Coaxial, but really, I couldn't notice the audio benefit especially from these budget sound bars.

After testing various scenes repeatedly from Bluray's of ' Inception' , Cloverfield, 'Looper' and 'Avatar' ,both connected by optical cable, I adjusted the various settings of both bars and from the start it became obvious who the winner was to my wife and I....... the Sony.

It was down to overall clarity, and fullness of bass. The Samsung was 'ever so slightly' better at the stereo effect but was let down on the hollower bass compared.

Each time we alternated sound bars during the test movies, the Sony came up stronger with more 'Oomph' and an overall 'cinematic feeling'. I played the same scenes on different settings on both bars and the Sony won for clarity and quality. Give yourself chance to calibrate with sub and centre controls and you will find a sweet spot.

We will be returning our Samsung this week and keeping the Sony and embracing it.

Shame as wanted to keep the Samsung as I have their phones and TV's but quality sound has to come first before label.

Rob Chandler
post #504 of 729
Can anyone explain or point me to a diagram of the equalizer settings for each various sound mode? My situation is that I live in a Condo High Rise, and I like to optimize the sound so I can hear voices clearly, but action/music scenes don't jump up to really loud so I don't disturb my neighbors. I generally have the SW turned all the way down, but I want to find the right settings for voice clarity without overwhelming noise in louder scenes. I hate having to constantly adjust..

Also, anyway to control the volume using the Samsung E7000 remote? I'm connected via optical, but I hate having to use multiple remotes.
post #505 of 729
Thats the thing that sucks about the HW-E450, as well as several other Samsung HT systems I've owned; there's no way to control the EQ yourself. You can on their TVs, but not on their AudioBars and HT systems! It makes no sense to me. That should be a basic requirement for any audio/HT gear IMO. Presets are fine, but if I'm really going to use it for TV, movies, and music, I should have the option to do it myself. I don't want the same "Music" setting for classical as I do for rock and so on.

The only way I know to even get a partial feeling for EQ settings on the AudioBar is to check the EQ for each preset on their TVs and hope those on the HW-E450 are similar.
post #506 of 729
I got rid of mine. It didnt work very well with my Sony HX750 and the sound wasnt what I was satisfied with in the end. I am going back to a AVR or I am gonna pick up a Sony soundbar this month. For me its just another Samsung product that didnt fit the bill. Done with Samsung products period.
post #507 of 729
I have a (1) Samsung LNT-4061F TV, (2) Samsung HW-E450 sound bar, (3) CISCO IPN4320 UVerse box, (4) Sony BDP-S590 blu ray player, and (5) Sony STR-AV200 (ancient) stereo receiver used for AM/FM .

The UVerse box and blu ray player each input directly to the TV. The TV inputs to the sound bar via optical cable (D-In).

The stereo receiver inputs directly to the sound bar via AUX.

I also have a Harmony 650 remote programmed for all the aforementioned devices and programmed for three activities associated respectively with the UVerse box, blu ray player, and stereo receiver.

The Harmony 650 remote works excellently with all these components with the exception of one annoyance....

The UVerse box and blu ray player activities are programmed for D-In input to the sound bar and work accordingly.

The stereo receiver activity is programmed for AUX input to the sound bar, but the Harmony 650 remote does not change the input from D-In to AUX.

The Harmony 650 remote does have a InputNext virtual button that allows manually changing from D-In to AUX (so all is not lost).

It appears that the sound bar does not have a protocol for directly addressing specific inputs (just the next input in the prescribed sequence).

Has anyone else encountered this issue? Has anyone found a workaround for programming the Harmony 650 remote?
post #508 of 729
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Originally Posted by E. Torbert View Post

I have a (1) Samsung LNT-4061F TV, (2) Samsung HW-E450 sound bar, (3) CISCO IPN4320 UVerse box, (4) Sony BDP-S590 blu ray player, and (5) Sony STR-AV200 (ancient) stereo receiver used for AM/FM .

The UVerse box and blu ray player each input directly to the TV. The TV inputs to the sound bar via optical cable (D-In).

The stereo receiver inputs directly to the sound bar via AUX.

I also have a Harmony 650 remote programmed for all the aforementioned devices and programmed for three activities associated respectively with the UVerse box, blu ray player, and stereo receiver.

The Harmony 650 remote works excellently with all these components with the exception of one annoyance....

The UVerse box and blu ray player activities are programmed for D-In input to the sound bar and work accordingly.

The stereo receiver activity is programmed for AUX input to the sound bar, but the Harmony 650 remote does not change the input from D-In to AUX.

The Harmony 650 remote does have a InputNext virtual button that allows manually changing from D-In to AUX (so all is not lost).

It appears that the sound bar does not have a protocol for directly addressing specific inputs (just the next input in the prescribed sequence).

Has anyone else encountered this issue? Has anyone found a workaround for programming the Harmony 650 remote?

I have a harmony one controlling an HT-D6730 and also have a harmony 650 controlling an HT-E450 in another room. On my E450, I do not have a need for any input other then digitail, so it is not a problem. BUT on y HT-D6730, I do use multiple inputs, and the Harmony is able to switch between them.. I have not used the software in some time, but I DO believe it is possible. IF you cannot figure it out, I would call their customer service, as from my experience, they should be able to program your needs into the remote... I seem to remember somewhere needing to tell the software or cust service how many inputs were there to cycle through.. I would also recommend asking this question in this forum - http://www.avsforum.com/t/967841/official-logitech-harmony-one-threadhttp://www.avsforum.com/t/967841/official-logitech-harmony-one-thread It should be the same software and have seen MANY work-arounds and solutions to problems given there..
Good luck
post #509 of 729
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Originally Posted by CMonMan View Post

I have a harmony one controlling an HT-D6730 and also have a harmony 650 controlling an HT-E450 in another room. On my E450, I do not have a need for any input other then digitail, so it is not a problem. BUT on y HT-D6730, I do use multiple inputs, and the Harmony is able to switch between them.. I have not used the software in some time, but I DO believe it is possible. IF you cannot figure it out, I would call their customer service, as from my experience, they should be able to program your needs into the remote... I seem to remember somewhere needing to tell the software or cust service how many inputs were there to cycle through.. I would also recommend asking this question in this forum - http://www.avsforum.com/t/967841/official-logitech-harmony-one-threadhttp://www.avsforum.com/t/967841/official-logitech-harmony-one-thread It should be the same software and have seen MANY work-arounds and solutions to problems given there.. As a last resort, I know you can also add a sequence of buttons to the start up and shut down of any given activity.. You could use whichever input you will use more frequently as the "default", (lets say it's "d. in" for this example) and on the other input, add the "input next" button how ever many times is needed on start up to get it to the "aux".. then add "input next" to be clicked how ever many times needed to get it back to "d. in" on shut down. I do something similar on one of my TV's when I want to use the tv speakers to be quiet... I have a seperate "watch tv quietly" where it does NOT turn on my sound system, and has to manually go into tv settings to turn on internal speakers, then it turns them back to external on shut down... Not something I use frequently, but beats needed to press the entire button sequence manually each time. Hopefully you find a simpler answer, but know that there IS a way! (Definatly recommend using the harmony forum and/or calling cust. service)
Good luck
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Originally Posted by E. Torbert View Post

I have a (1) Samsung LNT-4061F TV, (2) Samsung HW-E450 sound bar, (3) CISCO IPN4320 UVerse box, (4) Sony BDP-S590 blu ray player, and (5) Sony STR-AV200 (ancient) stereo receiver used for AM/FM .

The UVerse box and blu ray player each input directly to the TV. The TV inputs to the sound bar via optical cable (D-In).

The stereo receiver inputs directly to the sound bar via AUX.

I also have a Harmony 650 remote programmed for all the aforementioned devices and programmed for three activities associated respectively with the UVerse box, blu ray player, and stereo receiver.

The Harmony 650 remote works excellently with all these components with the exception of one annoyance....

The UVerse box and blu ray player activities are programmed for D-In input to the sound bar and work accordingly.

The stereo receiver activity is programmed for AUX input to the sound bar, but the Harmony 650 remote does not change the input from D-In to AUX.

The Harmony 650 remote does have a InputNext virtual button that allows manually changing from D-In to AUX (so all is not lost).

It appears that the sound bar does not have a protocol for directly addressing specific inputs (just the next input in the prescribed sequence).

Has anyone else encountered this issue? Has anyone found a workaround for programming the Harmony 650 remote?
post #510 of 729
Sorry, meant to edit my other post, and instead it created a new one, putting my updated post in quotes... grrr
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