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post #661 of 729
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Originally Posted by denpom View Post

how safe is just to leave the soundbar always ON? that will just save all the trouble for people having HDMI/Samsugn TV issue of the soundbar not turning ON with the TV.

I would assume that, for the most part, it's relatively safe. Personally, I don't like leaving electronics on that I can turn off when not in use. While I understand the inconvenience of having to manually turn on the soundbar each time, I really don't see how it's that big of a deal. It's 1 button. 2, if your soundbar defaults back to D.IN. I'm used to it by now so the 5 seconds doesn't really bother me.
post #662 of 729
Just checking if anyone recently noticed in BD movies that the dialogue is not as loud as the background music or sound effects. So if you turn things up to listen to the dialogue, music or effects become overpowering. My TV/outputs are connected to this bar via HDMI.

Can anyone share the settings they use? Like Cinema, 3D low/high, Smart volume and subwoofer effect settings?
post #663 of 729
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Originally Posted by Bill McNeal View Post

Just checking if anyone recently noticed in BD movies that the dialogue is not as loud as the background music or sound effects. So if you turn things up to listen to the dialogue, music or effects become overpowering. My TV/outputs are connected to this bar via HDMI.

Can anyone share the settings they use? Like Cinema, 3D low/high, Smart volume and subwoofer effect settings?

I've noticed this on occasion. It's usually right on but certain films throw it off- "Skyfall" being one of them. At a normal volume level, you couldn't hear the dialogue but when turned up so the dialogue was comfortable, the other sounds were too loud. I've also got their "7.1" (really a 5.1) blu ray HTIB, and it's the same way with the same movies... You can turn the sub down some and it helps...with that system you can turn the center channel up a little too... but with the soundbar you've really got to find a happy medium and sometimes it leaves something to be desired. For the price, you can't complain too much... but try a different source and see if that helps? I also noticed just routing everything to the TV, then having optical out from the TV to the soundbar helps this dramatically in my case, but you lose some sound quality and details... It's really not bad, but certainly noticeable.
post #664 of 729
Help, newbie here...ok, Samsung plasma, only 2 hdmi in and 1 optical out...pvr(hdmi), blu ray player (component or hdmi) and android tv box (hdmi out)...what is the best way to integrate with sound bar? I don't have arc...Thanks folks in advance...
post #665 of 729
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Originally Posted by asharma View Post

Help, newbie here...ok, Samsung plasma, only 2 hdmi in and 1 optical out...pvr(hdmi), blu ray player (component or hdmi) and android tv box (hdmi out)...what is the best way to integrate with sound bar? I don't have arc...Thanks folks in advance...

Having only 2 HDMI inputs on the TV limits your choices somewhat. The best way would be to purchase an HDMI switch with at least 3 inputs. Connect your source devices to it, connect the switch to the soundbar, and then connect the soundbar via HDMI to the TV. That way sends 5.1 audio whenever available to the soundbar.

Your other choice is connect all three source devices to the TV and use the optical out from TV to soundbar. That will only send stereo out, but using the various DSP modes available on the soundbar may be quite satisfactory.
post #666 of 729
Thanks kindly Possumgirl...ok, I understand option 1 but I'm assuming the switch requires another remote for the switch or are the switches auto sensing? For option number 2, given I only have 2 hdmi in on the tv and 3 hdmi based devices, are u suggesting I connect one of those devices via component video and composite audio...? I understand for the device that is connected via composite audio, the output would be stereo but would this be true for the devices connected via hdmi?
post #667 of 729
HDMI switches do come with a remote. I notice some say they do some "auto sensing", but since I've never used one I'm just guessing you'd have to push a button now and then.smile.gif

With option 2 I was assuming you'd have to connect one device via component and RCA audio cables. Yes that would be stereo output, but the other devices will be stereo also since almost all HDTVs only output stereo from devices connected to them via HDMI. This is the reason the switch seems the better choice. However, you may find that stereo input to the soundbar sounds pretty good.
post #668 of 729
Thanks Possumgirl, my 2013 Samsung 60 inch plasma has an option in the sound menu to output DOlby Digital...is there anyway on the Sooundbar to visually tell if it is receiving and outputting DD?
post #669 of 729
^^^
I don't know if the soundbar has indicators to show what signal is being received. The manual probably says something about that.

As to the sound output on the Sammy, that may apply only to audio from its internal tuner, but it could mean you have a choice from other sources. You'd need to check the manual, or contact Sammy support for an answer to that one.
post #670 of 729
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I don't know if the soundbar has indicators to show what signal is being received. The manual probably says something about that.

The signal isn't displayed on the soundbar.
post #671 of 729
HDMI switches do come with a remote. I notice some say they do some "auto sensing", but since I've never used one I'm just guessing you'd have to push a button now and then.

With option 2 I was assuming you'd have to connect one device via component and RCA audio cables. Yes that would be stereo output, but the other devices will be stereo also since almost all HDTVs only output stereo from devices connected to them via HDMI. This is the reason the switch seems the better choice. However, you may find that stereo input to the soundbar sounds pretty good.


Thanks folks...turns out the Sammy will output DD or DTS via optical out...I will run all devices to tv and just use one optical out to sound bar...
post #672 of 729
I have a Samsung TV and soundbar and I'm now using only one remote.
I'm sorry if I'm just repeating what has already been covered. I just wasn't understanding a few things. By page 4 of this thread, it finally clicked into place in my feeble brain thanks to post #113 by denpom and the link provided. Just passing it forward.
The problem is that, to me, the hookup is counter intuitive and Samsung support does not have a handle on their products.

-I have a Tivo Premier 4, Samsung UN55F6400AF TV and the HW-F450 sound bar.
-I have an HDMI cable out of the Tivo to the TV's HDMI in 1 (STB)
-I then have the TV's HDMI in 2 (ARC) to the sound bar's HDMI out.
-I'm using no other cables.
-I went into TV settings menu and turned on Anynet+ and set auto turn off to "yes". Some have had to set auto off to "no". Don't know why.
-I believe that at this point I already had the sound bar's Anynet+ turned on. The next step may not have otherwise worked.
-I hit the "more" button on the tv remote and hit tools, clicked on Anynet+ and hit refresh. It searched for and configured the sound bar, even though there is still no device in the "select device" window. At one point, I had assumed that meant the sound bar wasn't seen by the TV. I was wrong.
-I hit speaker select and checked receiver.
When I turn on the setup, the D. IN pops up on the sound bar but within a few seconds it switches to TV ARC and sound comes through.

Then I needed to program the dang Tivo remote. The Tivo gives three codes for A/V volume and mute on Samsung receivers. None of these work. I used the first code in the Samsung TV code list, code 0305. But program the remote using the receiver control method. Yes, a Samsung TV code for a Samsung receiver. About as backwards as everything else. Hold the TIVO and mute buttons until the light goes off and then comes back on to stay, then hit the code, 0305 You get three blinks, then Voi'la! A one remote solution.
There is a strange anomaly when powering up everything The Tivo switches to live mode on a random channel, different than the one I was previously on, even if the channel or recording playback was paused when I had just turned off the TV/sound bar. Oh well.

To me, this HDMI routing shouldn't work. Every time my mother-in-law has a power outage or hooks up a new TV, I have to explain the concept of inputs and outputs and signal paths to get her back on track. But that gets thrown out here. I'm thinking "why the heck would information travel OUTWARDS through a TV's HDMI INPUT and INWARDS through the sound bar's HDMI OUTPUT?" But apparently it does.
And judging from one of the manuals, it appeared to me that an ARC was a path from the Tivo, through the sound bar, into the TV. I was wrong. Sound and video would pass through but, like some of you, I could use one remote to turn the sound bar on/off OR adjust volume, depending on how I tweaked the setup. But not on/off AND volume.

Hope this ridiculously drawn out walkthrough helps some poor soul.
post #673 of 729
Is it possible to make soundbar turn on television and soundbar together? Soundbar turns off when I turn off tv but wont turn back on when I turn on the tv.
Have 55ST50 connected to HDMI port 2(ARC). My cable box is connected to HDMI in on soundbar.
PS3 is connected to HDMI port 1 on Television.
How can I get best sound on PS3 without HDMI switch?(optical cable?)
Just found out connecting HDMI to soundbar sounds way better than connecting to television.

BTW Is it worth upgrade to Bose Cinemate II? or II GS?
Local PX store is selling them for $400 for cinemate II and IIGS for 479. Tax free.
post #674 of 729
I think the problem is that you're connecting the sound bar to your cable box. That didn't work for me.
Try connecting the box to HDMI1 on the TV.
Make sure the TV's HDMI ARC is connected to the sound bars OUTPUT.
I think you just send any other device to an open HDMI port on the TV.
post #675 of 729
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Originally Posted by joon82 View Post

Is it possible to make soundbar turn on television and soundbar together? Soundbar turns off when I turn off tv but wont turn back on when I turn on the tv.
Have 55ST50 connected to HDMI port 2(ARC). My cable box is connected to HDMI in on soundbar.
PS3 is connected to HDMI port 1 on Television.
How can I get best sound on PS3 without HDMI switch?(optical cable?)
Just found out connecting HDMI to soundbar sounds way better than connecting to television.

Not quite clear on how TV & soundbar are connected. Be sure you have the HDMI out port on the soundbar connected to the HDMI (ARC) port on the Panny. Go to your Viera Link settings and enable the "auto-on" setting. It is off by default. As to your source devices, only one can be connected via HDMI to the soundbar. Suggest you use that connection for the PS3. For the cable box you can connect optical directly from the cable box to the soundbar for better audio. That, of course is in addition to connecting the box via HDMI to the TV for video.
post #676 of 729
the thing is , i got an hd satellite box , a samsung 40es6200 tv and soundbar samsung hw f450 , now arc function of tv and sound bar work flawlessly , if i do not connect my hd box at all ,and play the movie via usb ,connecting hdmi 2(arc) on tv with hdmi out of soundbar , but but but ,when i connect my hd box hdmi to hdmi in of soundbar while in all things are on even then the arc fucntion keeps working , but as soon as i turn soundbar and tv off , and on again even after few seconds all arc functions are lost , all i am left with is (while hdmi source on soundbar) video and sound for my hd box , and when playing usb movie and change soundbar source to D.IN , i can only see the video playing via usb but no sound from soundbar . i have already bought a belkin HDMI cable ,and its unlikely to be taken back by ebay seller :-) , i really need it to be working .

i also tried to make it work like this , hd box hdmi out to tv hdmi in (other than arc one) and soundbar HDMI out to tv HDMI (arc) , but this also didnt work , what the hell is the problem in ARC , please??
post #677 of 729
i have a samsung 40ES6200 tv and just bought a new samsung HW F450 soundbar to go with it . as per my manual , i set it up like this

the connection i make as follows (as told by my soundbar manual ) my HD stb HDMI output goes to soundbar HDMI input and from soundbar HDMI output to my TV'S HDMI input(ARC) .

now after doing this above configuration , i have to select hdmi as my setting in my soundbar and i am getting the sound of my DTH channels after this also i am supposed to get audio for the movies played by usb (via ARC feature , but thats not happening , also the anynet function is not working that ways anymore .

although, if i connect my tv ARC HDMI INPUT to my soundbar HDMI output i get the usb movie sound , but as soon as i set it up like above configuration all is lost and i can only get sound for my channels only

is there any chance that the belkin hdmi cable i am using (F3Y021bf1M) doesnt have HDMI -CEC feature? and thats why its happening?

any help please all gurus?
post #678 of 729
On page 11 of this thread there's some discussion about the sound bar cutting out intermittently while watching something on Netflix. I notice it happens oftentimes when music is playing in the background of the movie or show. I was wondering if the issue was ever resolved or if there was some fix? Thank you.
post #679 of 729
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Originally Posted by joon82 View Post

Is it possible to make soundbar turn on television and soundbar together? Soundbar turns off when I turn off tv but wont turn back on when I turn on the tv.
Have 55ST50 connected to HDMI port 2(ARC). My cable box is connected to HDMI in on soundbar.
PS3 is connected to HDMI port 1 on Television.
How can I get best sound on PS3 without HDMI switch?(optical cable?)
Just found out connecting HDMI to soundbar sounds way better than connecting to television.

BTW Is it worth upgrade to Bose Cinemate II? or II GS?
Local PX store is selling them for $400 for cinemate II and IIGS for 479. Tax free.
I have a HD cable box, Bu ray player, the E-450 sound bar and a Sharp LC-60LE640U TV. I have the sound bar hooked up with a fiber optic cable out from the TV to the sound bar. I'm also using the Logitech Harmony 650 remote. Everything turns on and off with just one push of a button. The sound is great!! Best $65.00 I have ever spent! Hope this helps.
post #680 of 729
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Originally Posted by toocool View Post

i have a samsung 40ES6200 tv and just bought a new samsung HW F450 soundbar to go with it . as per my manual , i set it up like this

the connection i make as follows (as told by my soundbar manual ) my HD stb HDMI output goes to soundbar HDMI input and from soundbar HDMI output to my TV'S HDMI input(ARC) .

now after doing this above configuration , i have to select hdmi as my setting in my soundbar and i am getting the sound of my DTH channels after this also i am supposed to get audio for the movies played by usb (via ARC feature , but thats not happening , also the anynet function is not working that ways anymore .

although, if i connect my tv ARC HDMI INPUT to my soundbar HDMI output i get the usb movie sound , but as soon as i set it up like above configuration all is lost and i can only get sound for my channels only

is there any chance that the belkin hdmi cable i am using (F3Y021bf1M) doesnt have HDMI -CEC feature? and thats why its happening?

any help please all gurus?

I've noticed that when I connect my STB to my HW-F450 (and HW-E450 before that), I no longer get the "Audio Feedback" from the TV when navigating menus (TV is connected to soundbar via HDMI-ARC).

If I connect the STB directly to my TV, I get the audio feedback. I can't explain why. The downside would be that its better to connect the STB or Blu-ray player to the soundbar first so the TV doesn't downsample the original audio to 2 channel stereo.

On the other hand, the soundbar is only 2 channel anyway, so finally I just decided to connect all devices directly to the TV and the TV to the soundbar via ARC.
post #681 of 729
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Originally Posted by Milleniumcyke View Post

On page 11 of this thread there's some discussion about the sound bar cutting out intermittently while watching something on Netflix. I notice it happens oftentimes when music is playing in the background of the movie or show. I was wondering if the issue was ever resolved or if there was some fix? Thank you.

I resolved the issue by buying an HW-F450, the 2013 replacement for the HW-E450. That issue, and the other minor quirks of the HW-E450, have all been fixed.

I tried several HDMI and optical cables, but never figured out what actually caused the problem. However, posters on a British forum reported that it was caused by resolution switching; so if your source is 480/720/1080i, but your TV upscales to 1080p, it will cause it to intermittently drop audio as/when it upscales. On Netflix, the source varies based on bandwidth or buffering or something, so if it starts out at 480 and then reaches 720 and finally 1080, the sound will cut out while the TV is switching or upscaling. Samsung UK issued a firmware update last year that apparently fixed it, but Samsung US never did.
post #682 of 729
Woot has this today refurbished for $150. Do you guys feel that is a good value? Looking for something for my living room. I need better than TV audio sound but not quite a dedicated home theater setup
post #683 of 729
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Originally Posted by Mike_Stuewe View Post

Woot has this today refurbished for $150. Do you guys feel that is a good value? Looking for something for my living room. I need better than TV audio sound but not quite a dedicated home theater setup

It all depends on what sources you will be connecting and how you will be connecting them but that is definitely a good price.
post #684 of 729
Just purchased one of these and very happy with how it all sync's up wirelessly to my ES8000 TV and other devices in my house.

I was wanting to help on the best audio settings for this.

Firstly I noticed that 3D Sound plus in the manual says OFF / LOW / HIGH, instead I get OFF/ MUSIC/ MOVIE when hitting that button.....what is the difference or is it just a different wording for the same thing.

What audio settings do you guys find best for Movies and general programm watching?
post #685 of 729
Interesting. When I hit the 3D Sound button, I get OFF / LOW / HIGH. I get the others when I hit the SOUND button. I think that's what it is. It's next to the SAT SOURCE button. I like CINEMA with 3D Sound set to low.
post #686 of 729
Strange, my 3d sound button is on the bottom left corner of the remote where you have the TV PRE-CH button, and looks completely different to the remote in the manual and the one your referring to.
post #687 of 729
Hi, I currently have a UNC55C7000 hooked up to a receiver along with cable box and blu ray player (also from Samsung). I'm moving and want to do away with the receiver and all the speakers for a few reasons. One reason is to simplify the operation of the sound for my wife so the sound can be controlled via my cable remote (cant do that now).

WIth the HW-E450 + UNC55C7000 + Samsung Blu-Ray + Cable Box what will the optimal setup for both performance and ease of use?
post #688 of 729
The first way that I would connect everything is BD player to HDMI IN on your soundbar. I would connect HDMI OUT on your soundbar to the HDMI/ARC port on your TV. I would then connect the cable box to the TV via HDMI. This will enable you to have a direct connection from the BD player to the soundbar. While you might not be able to hear any difference between connecting the BD player this way compared to connecting it to the TV first, I prefer a direct connection whenever possible. While I suppose that connecting both sources directly to your TV first and then outputting the TV via optical or HDMI (ARC) would be "easier", the way that I described should give you the best balance of performance vs. ease of use. At least that's the way that I see it. The main negative to connecting this way is that you will have to change the source on the soundbar to HDMI to watch/listen to blu ray and D.IN. to listen to cable programming.

Luckily, you have a few different connection options and the limitations of the soundbar should be such that you won't notice much sound degradation between the options, if at all.
post #689 of 729
I NEED HELP PLEASE!
I've been back on forth with this for about 6 months. I have a Sharp Aquos lc-60le640u and the hw-450 connected to the tv via hdmi out to the ARC port on the TV. I also have a BD, and Uverse box connected to the TV via HDMI. My issue is that for some reason while the tv is connected to the sound bar the auos link will be eneabled and then all of a sudden it will turn itself off and i lose all sound even though it says TV ARC?

can anyone please help me figure this out? how do i get the sound to stay on completely? mad.gifmad.gif
post #690 of 729
I've no idea why that is happening, but the solution may be to use an optical connection from the TV to the soundbar instead of ARC. If it still happens with that connection, then the TV has a problem with external audio.
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