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post #121 of 268
This is a great little TV. (I have the UN32EH5000.) Except for one rather baffling thing--the HDMI inputs all on the side where the cord sticks out. What the hell were they thinking? It's convenient, sure, but it looks like crap. I realize there are probably angled cords I can buy to alleviate the problem, but I shouldn't have to.

P.S.- I do really like the way simply renaming the input to "PC" optimizes the TV for use as a monitor. Now that makes sense.
post #122 of 268
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Has anyone else figured out how to get into the service menu aside from the mute 182 power button ?

Found another method that works, Info -> Menu -> Mute -> Power
post #123 of 268
Any official calibration settings?
post #124 of 268
Had this for a week. Poor thing handled fast movement poorly. A lot of motion blur here and there. Cheap-plastic feel and quite thicker compared to the competition.


So I returned it and got myself an LG LS5700 tv instead. Now I don't have any problems with motion blurring. PQ is just the same if not even better. I found the images in my LG are sharper than the EH5300.
post #125 of 268
How is the backlight bleeding on the LS5700 ?
post #126 of 268
Bought this awesome TV (UE40EH5000W) a couple of days ago , and testing/calibrating it since Day 1 (with the latest firmware 1018.1).

I just found the perfect picture for every input (Digital Italian TV, Apple Macbook Pro/HDMI-DVI, plus Xbox 360/HDMI Gaming too :] ).

Here my "Universal Settings" (ULTIMATE):


Picture Mode: Film

BACKLIGHT 20
CONTRAST 100
BRIGTHNESS 44
SHARPNESS 5 (30 for Italian DDT-TV)
COLOR 51
TINT 49/51

Screen Adjustment

PICTURE SIZE: Fit to Screen (Auto-Wide for DDT-TV)

Advanced Settings

DYNAMIC CONTRAST: Off
BLACK TONE: Off
SHADOW DETAIL: 0
RGB ONLY MODE: Off
COLOUR SPACE: Native
WHITE BALANCE MENU:
R-Offset 25, G-Offset 25, B-Offset 25
R-Gain 0, G-Gain 30, B-Gain 30
GAMMA: -1
MOTION LIGHTING: Off

Picture Options

COLOUR TONE: Warm 2
DIGITAL NOISE FILTER: Off
MPEG NOISE FILTER: Off
HDMI BLACK LEVEL: Low
FILM MODE: Off (Auto2 on Italian DDT-TV)
LED MOTION PLUS: Off


Gaming Mode: Off


And with these calibrated settings, configure your Xbox 360 Display Settings like this:

RESOLUTION: 1080p (Say Yes to 50Hz too)
REFERENCE LEVEL: Standard
HDMI COLOR SPACE: RGB
AUTOSCAN DISPLAY SETTINGS: Enabled
SCREEN SAVER: Yes


Hope you like it!
Edited by P40L0 - 10/28/12 at 1:33am
post #127 of 268
Nice - how do you like yours so far ? how is the motion - and black levels - ?

mines was just delivered - have to put it up over the weekend - i hope this 5000 out performs my ET5 - one of them will go back after the weekend -
post #128 of 268
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Originally Posted by expresso712 View Post

Nice - how do you like yours so far ? how is the motion - and black levels - ?
mines was just delivered - have to put it up over the weekend - i hope this 5000 out performs my ET5 - one of them will go back after the weekend -
After experimenting for days, and with those settings above, I'm really stunned so far.

TRON: Legacy at 1080p (with VLC on Macbook Pro) is just...perfect. Black is so deep while keeping all the details, no ghosting, no artifacts, no bleeding, no down sides. Perfect, pure, picture quality with "Plasma-Like" natural colors, and not the typical oversaturated LCD one.

Same with others 1080p movies like Avatar, Transformers, Wild Horse and everything I trow at it.

Talking about Xbox 360 (again, with the settings above) almost all the "jaggies" and the aliasing disappear while keeping the picture sharp and clean. Everything is smooth like butter, and most important of all: without any input lag at all. smile.gif

The only "down sides" of this TV are:

1) It's not a SmartTV (so no Network Sharing or Internet features)
2) It's not 3D
3) SD video or SD games are somewhat really ugly to see.

But considering that:

1) I really don't care of Internet Features (I can just plug my Mac or my Xbox and do or see anything I want)
2) I really don't care about 3D (I just can't stand to put some glasses in my room, and I prefer the perfect-quality of the images)
3) Who will play SD content with a TV like this? biggrin.gif

This screen it's simply PERFECT for me.
And considering how much low I paid it (like 400€), it's one of the best buy I ever made in my entire life for now.
Edited by P40L0 - 7/13/12 at 2:46pm
post #129 of 268
Tweaked the config just a bit more (FINAL) wink.gif
Edited by P40L0 - 7/16/12 at 6:07am
post #130 of 268
i did watch a movie last night - blu ray and it was very nice to see the blacks similar to plasma -

i am having a hard time deciding - if i would have gotten this model first time - it would have been great -

but since i tried a different model before this one - different brand -

and i remember that picture so vivid - it was bright - clear and crisp - sharp - colors were excellent - only down side was the dark black levels - this was the reason for trying this model 5000

which does a great job with that - but i feel like i am missing the crisp accurate colors from the panny -

making me think now - viewing angles i noticed right away are less with the 5000 - but that can be overlooked -

i will use it a few more days before deciding - with the panny - there were really no advanced adjustments - very basic in the settings area - this one has more settings to tweak -

but it seems as if the panny was better with color - picture etc, - so dont need any extra settings to play with - its the blacks - i have to decide if i should take a hit with the black levels on the panny and keep it - or keep the 5000 with much better black levels - even screen - just not as crisp clear to my eye - and not as bright -

its near two windows - bright room - so the panny was better day time - - this is not my movie TV - just normal watching - over all - this is a great set and price is great
post #131 of 268
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Originally Posted by expresso712 View Post

i did watch a movie last night - blu ray and it was very nice to see the blacks similar to plasma -
i am having a hard time deciding - if i would have gotten this model first time - it would have been great -
but since i tried a different model before this one - different brand -
and i remember that picture so vivid - it was bright - clear and crisp - sharp - colors were excellent - only down side was the dark black levels - this was the reason for trying this model 5000
which does a great job with that - but i feel like i am missing the crisp accurate colors from the panny -
making me think now - viewing angles i noticed right away are less with the 5000 - but that can be overlooked -
i will use it a few more days before deciding - with the panny - there were really no advanced adjustments - very basic in the settings area - this one has more settings to tweak -
but it seems as if the panny was better with color - picture etc, - so dont need any extra settings to play with - its the blacks - i have to decide if i should take a hit with the black levels on the panny and keep it - or keep the 5000 with much better black levels - even screen - just not as crisp clear to my eye - and not as bright -
its near two windows - bright room - so the panny was better day time - - this is not my movie TV - just normal watching - over all - this is a great set and price is great

Try these. smile.gif
I've just updated it after another full day of testing.

It's true that this TV "Default Presets" don't look quite good initially, but starting from Movie mode (with more natural-plasma colours, and a backlight suitable for a dark room, for instance while watching a movie or playing a game) and customizing a bit here and there this TV can give you a really "perfect" output comparable to the (already calibrated) Apple displays like the latest Macbook Pro Retina Display or the universal acclaimed iMac's displays.

With every TV I try to reach that kind of output, and with a bit of calibration this TV can easily reach it. Give it a try (with the new settings). wink.gif

Really often we think that just "more sharp" or "more bright" or "more saturated" automatically is equal to "better", but that's usually wrong.
The picture must be clean, the colors must be "natural", and the light doesn't have to kill the eyes retina. ^^


EDIT: Final update of the calibrated settings after the AVS 709 calibration kit. I'll never touch this TV again biggrin.gif
Edited by P40L0 - 7/16/12 at 6:06am
post #132 of 268
this TV has alot of good points - i agree with most about this TV in general - at night - with movies etc, HD - its bright enough and very good with dark areas and screen is uniform - sound is very good also for a flat TV -

even with the posted settings - its a bit too soft for me - and the limited brightness is hurting me during Day time use - its a bright room near two windows - i have to keep it on Dynamic mode - its just off from the panny i was thinking of replacing with this TV

because of the weak blacks on the panny - but i decided to return this Sammy - and put the panny back up - i had the panny packed already and was going to return it - i was expecting a similar picture to the panny but just deeper blacks - but didnt work out that way for me -

deeper blacks yes - but everything else - the panny really shines - and not only because of its brightness - the colors are just different - sharper - clearer - the sammy seems softer to me when watching peoples faces - not as much details - motion is a bit more prononced on the Sammy and also Banding -

i do see some banding on the panny also but its less visible to me - but under normal use with both TVs - the banding dosnt affect the picture all the time -

i watched ghost protocol last night blu ray on my Plasma - main room - which i use only for movies at night and it was amazing - thats a different TV all together - - i will be putting the panny back up and pack up the sammy tomorrow -

things may have been different if i never had the panny first - who knows - i may have been ok with this Sammy - but the moment i turned on the Sammy - it was a bit strange - i wanted to check the black levels and screen etc, - which is very good on the sammy in those areas - no light bleed - etc, - viewing angles are worse on the sammy for sure - noticed that first thing - picture goes dark quickly if you move off center - compared to the panny -

its a great TV for the price etc, and much better than many Leds - in regaurds to black level and screen evenness - no bleeding - - for 200 more - the panny offers an excellent picture - colors and more flexiable control of the light output - seems crisper and sharper to my eye - motion seems a bit better - sound not as good - has internet - 3D - those were just a plus - not a must for me - 4 hdmi - two usb -

those are what you get for the extra 200 - over the sammy - all good - - now the bad - for me - its only the weaker black levels and contrast - only affects the TV at night in the dark - being that this is not my Movie TV - just a Reg. bedroom TV - no biggie - i think i will deal with the weaker blacks in exchange for the other pros i like on the panny -

i will add some LED backlights on the TV - LED light kit - it does improve the black levels to your eyes - makes it seem darker than they really are -

i am watching now HD TV - on the sammy - its fine - just a bit soft overall - but i have to keep it in dynamic mode during the day and its not the same as at night in movie mode - or even standard mode is good at night -

anyway - good luck to everyone who has this TV - i wish the panny had these black levels - would have been perfect - all well - i though these LED TV were much more improved by now - i guess not really -
post #133 of 268
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Originally Posted by expresso712 View Post

this TV has alot of good points - i agree with most about this TV in general - at night - with movies etc, HD - its bright enough and very good with dark areas and screen is uniform - sound is very good also for a flat TV -
even with the posted settings - its a bit too soft for me - and the limited brightness is hurting me during Day time use - its a bright room near two windows - i have to keep it on Dynamic mode - its just off from the panny i was thinking of replacing with this TV
because of the weak blacks on the panny - but i decided to return this Sammy - and put the panny back up - i had the panny packed already and was going to return it - i was expecting a similar picture to the panny but just deeper blacks - but didnt work out that way for me -
deeper blacks yes - but everything else - the panny really shines - and not only because of its brightness - the colors are just different - sharper - clearer - the sammy seems softer to me when watching peoples faces - not as much details - motion is a bit more prononced on the Sammy and also Banding -
i do see some banding on the panny also but its less visible to me - but under normal use with both TVs - the banding dosnt affect the picture all the time -
i watched ghost protocol last night blu ray on my Plasma - main room - which i use only for movies at night and it was amazing - thats a different TV all together - - i will be putting the panny back up and pack up the sammy tomorrow -
things may have been different if i never had the panny first - who knows - i may have been ok with this Sammy - but the moment i turned on the Sammy - it was a bit strange - i wanted to check the black levels and screen etc, - which is very good on the sammy in those areas - no light bleed - etc, - viewing angles are worse on the sammy for sure - noticed that first thing - picture goes dark quickly if you move off center - compared to the panny -
its a great TV for the price etc, and much better than many Leds - in regaurds to black level and screen evenness - no bleeding - - for 200 more - the panny offers an excellent picture - colors and more flexiable control of the light output - seems crisper and sharper to my eye - motion seems a bit better - sound not as good - has internet - 3D - those were just a plus - not a must for me - 4 hdmi - two usb -
those are what you get for the extra 200 - over the sammy - all good - - now the bad - for me - its only the weaker black levels and contrast - only affects the TV at night in the dark - being that this is not my Movie TV - just a Reg. bedroom TV - no biggie - i think i will deal with the weaker blacks in exchange for the other pros i like on the panny -
i will add some LED backlights on the TV - LED light kit - it does improve the black levels to your eyes - makes it seem darker than they really are -
i am watching now HD TV - on the sammy - its fine - just a bit soft overall - but i have to keep it in dynamic mode during the day and its not the same as at night in movie mode - or even standard mode is good at night -
anyway - good luck to everyone who has this TV - i wish the panny had these black levels - would have been perfect - all well - i though these LED TV were much more improved by now - i guess not really -
Nice summary of your experience, thanks! smile.gif
Yeah, in the end we're talking about different uses of this TV.
I only watch Movies on it, or play Xbox or other Games, and always in a fairly dark room (not completely dark, but still dark), and real close, like 1,5 meters from it.

So the Movie mode (this TV's best mode with the best picture quality in my opinion), with these settings, it's just the perfect combination for my needs (having the best quality possibile while don't becoming totally blind after hours of movies/gaming, really close from the screen, in a dark room), and for the price I paid I'm totally blown away by it!

About the bright/light use I think that the Dynamic mode is the brightest one too, but the colours and everything isn't "natural" and right like the Movie mode so, yeah, you could be right: the Panasonic or other sets may be better during daytime, or for watching regular television.

So:

1) If you want a crystal clear, pure, natural and stunning picture quality, and you use your TV most for Regular Television, or casual daytime watching (under the light)...maybe this TV is not for you, considering that the brightest picture mode doesn't look super like the dark/night mode...

2) If you want a crystal clear, pure, natural and stunning picture quality, and you use your TV most for HD Movies or Games (in a fairly dark or a totally dark room): this SAMSUNG (UE40EH5000W) it's absolutely a blast, especially for the price. Go for it without thinking twice, and try to use these settings for a really great quality to start experimenting with.

Have Fun. wink.gif
post #134 of 268
I packed it up and returning the Sammy - keeping the panny - for my use and everyone who seen both TVs in my bedroom - all agree - the panny is clearer - sharper - brighter but with natural color tones etc, - now this is based on my eyes - its much more comfortable for me to use the panny - its a every day TV for normal use - Over the Air HD - and sometimes - a dvd or blu ray -


but its not my movie TV - thats will my plasma in my main room - i felt much better when i seen the Picture on the panny again - i was disappointed with the sammy for that point only

i was really hoping to see a similar picture only with deeper blacks etc, - i would have kept it - didnt really need the extra HDMI - 3D - internet - etc, - those are just a plus - wont really make much use of the 3D -

this is why i went with passive 3D - wasnt going to spend more money on glasses etc, - it came with 4 pairs - good enough -

if the sammy works for you - then its a great set with a low price - enjoy smile.gif
post #135 of 268
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Originally Posted by expresso712 View Post

I packed it up and returning the Sammy - keeping the panny - for my use and everyone who seen both TVs in my bedroom - all agree - the panny is clearer - sharper - brighter but with natural color tones etc, - now this is based on my eyes - its much more comfortable for me to use the panny - its a every day TV for normal use - Over the Air HD - and sometimes - a dvd or blu ray -
but its not my movie TV - thats will my plasma in my main room - i felt much better when i seen the Picture on the panny again - i was disappointed with the sammy for that point only
i was really hoping to see a similar picture only with deeper blacks etc, - i would have kept it - didnt really need the extra HDMI - 3D - internet - etc, - those are just a plus - wont really make much use of the 3D -
this is why i went with passive 3D - wasnt going to spend more money on glasses etc, - it came with 4 pairs - good enough -
if the sammy works for you - then its a great set with a low price - enjoy smile.gif
I'm sorry to read that, cause I'm continuing to improve my picture and it's so amazing for FullHD movies and games right now.

I don't have a plasma, but I think I won't need one after this... biggrin.gif
post #136 of 268
Does anyone know where we can get some sort of detailed information on what the options in the service menu does?
post #137 of 268
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Originally Posted by P40L0 View Post

I'm sorry to read that, cause I'm continuing to improve my picture and it's so amazing for FullHD movies and games right now.
I don't have a plasma, but I think I won't need one after this... biggrin.gif


Glad it works for you - its not a bad TV overall - its a personal perference i guess - hard to compare TVs in stores - all i can say is the panny works better for me in my conditions which i am using it for - the blacks are about the only downside of the panny - i have seen worse so i can live with it giving how the rest of the TV performs -

i gave the Sammy a shot because of all the good reviews with screen uniform , blacks etc, - and thats true - on the Sammy - so who ever has one - and it works for them - its a nice Set - i will enjoy the panny and watch movies on the big plasma - which i normally do anyway -

enjoy -
post #138 of 268
Played a lot more with White Balance and Colour Tone, and optimized the picture to the max level possible for this TV and for me.
For a dark (or very dark) room/environment, and especially for Movies and Games this is the perfect picture for me, and the best possible for this TV (Firmware 1018.1, Model UE40EH5000W):


Picture Mode: Film

BACKLIGHT 20
CONTRAST 100
BRIGTHNESS 44
SHARPNESS 5 (30 for Italian DDT-TV)
COLOR 51
TINT 49/51

Screen Adjustment

PICTURE SIZE: Fit to Screen (Auto-Wide for DDT-TV)

Advanced Settings

DYNAMIC CONTRAST: Off
BLACK TONE: Off
SHADOW DETAIL: 0
RGB ONLY MODE: Off
COLOUR SPACE: Native
WHITE BALANCE MENU:
R-Offset 25, G-Offset 25, B-Offset 25
R-Gain 0, G-Gain 30, B-Gain 30
GAMMA: -1
MOTION LIGHTING: Off

Picture Options

COLOUR TONE: Warm 2
DIGITAL NOISE FILTER: Off
MPEG NOISE FILTER: Off
HDMI BLACK LEVEL: Low
FILM MODE: Off (Auto2 on Italian DDT-TV)
LED MOTION PLUS: Off


Gaming Mode: Off


And with these calibrated settings, configure your Xbox 360 Display Settings like this:

RESOLUTION: 1080p (Say Yes to 50Hz too)
REFERENCE LEVEL: Standard
HDMI COLOR SPACE: RGB
AUTOSCAN DISPLAY SETTINGS: Enabled
SCREEN SAVER: Yes


N.B.
These calibrated settings must be repeated for each source (TV, HDMI1, HDMI2, Component, USB etc), and trust me: it looks superb on any of them, with any input. smile.gif
Just note the slightly differences between HDMI and TV, I put them inside some (digression). rolleyes.gif

Here's a picture from my dark room (photo taken from a simple iPhone 4 camera):

448

HAVE FUN!
Edited by P40L0 - 10/28/12 at 1:33am
post #139 of 268
Picked up the UN40EH5000 earlier this month, it's replacing my Samsung PN42B450 plasma.

No dead pixels, excellent set for around half a grand.

Here's some pics of cbs news ota 1080i:
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post #140 of 268
I just got the Samsung UE40EH5005 today. I take it this is the same model TV that is being discussed here (I live in Norway)?

Anyway, I can't seem to find any FW for this TV on European Samsung sites, but there seem to be one on the US site. Will this work regardless? I can only find manual and environment downloads!

Thanks!
Edited by Nico877 - 7/25/12 at 12:14pm
post #141 of 268
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Originally Posted by Nico877 View Post

I just got the Samsung UE40EH5005 today. I take it this is the same model TV that is being discussed here (I live in Norway)?
Anyway, I can't seem to find any FW for this TV on European Samsung sites, but there seem to be one on the US site. Will this work regardless? I can only find manual and environment downloads!
Thanks!

Dont risk flashing it for another region, I had the same issue but good thing Samsung took care of it, they also dont have or offer any FW updates for my region yet ( Philippines )
post #142 of 268
Yeah, I won't.

I tried the settings above, the only exception is that my TV is "factory version" and that I can't change the HDMI black level or whatever, it just says function unavailable. It looks great, but it seems kind of grey/greenish to me in movie mode. I'll try to take some comparison pictures later on with standard vs. movie mode. Standard mode with the above settings definitely has more "life".
post #143 of 268
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Originally Posted by Nico877 View Post

Yeah, I won't.
I tried the settings above, the only exception is that my TV is "factory version" and that I can't change the HDMI black level or whatever, it just says function unavailable. It looks great, but it seems kind of grey/greenish to me in movie mode. I'll try to take some comparison pictures later on with standard vs. movie mode. Standard mode with the above settings definitely has more "life".
You're right, there's less "gray/greenish" on the picture with Standard, but on Standard the colors are too much saturated, and many clips each other...

...but i calibrated again the profile with the Standard, and here's the Updated Config.

Enjoy! wink.gif
post #144 of 268
Nice, will try it. The firmware came up on the Norwegian Samsung site today too smile.gif

I think the effect of Standard or Movie changes depending on what you watch. I felt that Saving Private Ryan looked too much grey/green, but that's maybe because the movie has a lot of green uniforms, grey sky, sand and grass etc.

Will try your Standard config now smile.gif

*edit after trying*

Awesome! This is definitely the config I'm going with now (your Standard config) smile.gif

What sound options do you prefer? I honestly haven't had the time to check them out yet, I'm just using Movie now.

Thanks!
Edited by Nico877 - 7/27/12 at 9:12am
post #145 of 268
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Originally Posted by Nico877 View Post

Nice, will try it. The firmware came up on the Norwegian Samsung site today too smile.gif
I think the effect of Standard or Movie changes depending on what you watch. I felt that Saving Private Ryan looked much too grey/green, but that's maybe because the movie has a lot of green uniforms, grey sky, sand and grass etc.
Will try your Standard config now smile.gif
Yes, I noticed the more gray/green filter especially on TV when switching different channels: it was always present a bit in Film Mode, while it's gone in Standard wink.gif
I noticed that Standard has less "motion ghosting" too, and it's more fluid and clean with moving objects.

Only the default Standard colors are too much saturated, and clipped, and they need to be fairly toned down to the already perfect of the default Film Mode colors.

With my firmware (1018.1, with a Reset too), the new updated settings above are the best results I reached so far.

Enjoy wink.gif
post #146 of 268
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Originally Posted by Nico877 View Post

*edit after trying*
Awesome! This is definitely the config I'm going with now (your Standard config) smile.gif
What sound options do you prefer? I honestly haven't had the time to check them out yet, I'm just using Movie now.
Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it! wink.gif

For the sound (when I'm using the TV's speakers) I'm using "Movie" sound mode too, as it seems more boosted while remaining clean without distorsion.
But 90% of the time I'm using my external surround system wink.gif

Have fun!

edit:
I updated my settings a bit more, with a little bit more accurate White Balance (25,25,25,0,25,25), give it a try if you haven't already cool.gif
post #147 of 268
Done! Thanks! smile.gif
post #148 of 268
Cheers for the settings. Will see how they are on Freeview HD here in the UK

Edit: Looks alright. Colours maybe look more realistic now, compared to my previous settings. Maybe a little bright, might adjust the backlight by one or two

I've changd it too:

Backlight :16
Contrast: 85
Gamma: -2
Edited by superleeds27 - 7/28/12 at 10:29am
post #149 of 268
Backlight 20 works great if you have the lights off, 16 seems good to me in a bright room.
Edited by Nico877 - 7/29/12 at 3:13pm
post #150 of 268
Has anyone gotten good results using LED Motion Plus? If so, please share your settings. I'm distracted a bit with some motion blur and lack of contrast depth vs. my old Panasonic plasma.
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