Originally Posted by SiGGy
Nonsense is comparing something that is specific to ones vision reception to something that is a manufacturing flaw. Not everyone's eyes are sensitive to DLP rainbows. It's actually the way DLP was designed to work. You compare it to a manufacturing flaw Panasonic had which was green/pink blotches that everyone can see once they're shown what to look foor? Some TVs are so bad you'd have to be blind not to see it. Umm... Panasonic didn't design in random green/pink spots into their TV.
You insist everyone sees this spots, most people never see them. I'm going with most people.
Yes it is, you fight with people ALL the time. Ever ask yourself why? I'm sure your answer is telling yourself it's them and your there to educate them.
I do try to educate. Too many of you are just ignorant and don't want to learn.
Problem you have is you state just about everything you say as fact. When it's not... you should keep repeating this to yourself until it sinks in.
Actually, I'm better than nearly anyone here at distinguishing fact from opinion. What some of you don't like is that I possess more facts than you.
So did Panasonic. Samsung addressed just about every issue that had in 2011. Peeling screen addressed, FBR's addressed (certainly not perfect).
Panasonic did not have factory QC issues like Sasmung. They didn't have a significant number of units come out of the box with internal cracks (and then blame end users). They didn't have a gigantic number of units with misapplied AR filters. Both mfrs. have FBr issues (Panasonic was far more proactive in fixing them, but whatever). Fluctuating brightness is a design flaw, not a QC issue.
Did Panasonic address their color issues and actually fix it?
Calibration controls which are wonky?
horrible menu layouts for calibration, you have to use controlcal to keep your sanity trying to calibrate the VT30
IR glasses which barely keep sync at 12 feet.
poor conversion of a RGB 4:4:4 signal
By my reckoning, not one of those is a QC issue, except this blotch problem, which has yet to be defined by anyone. Maybe that's a QC issue, maybe it's not something that typical people even see.
Calibrated VT30s were still pretty much considered the gold standard of picture quality in spite of all these "flaws" you listed. How do you explain that?
My point here is they both had issues, over all the Samsung was a better TV IMO.
In your opinion.
The only thing Panasonic really did well for me in 2011 was it's blacks.
I simply stated Panasonic had just as many issues if not more than Samsung did for 2011. Both quality and manufacturing related.
And you're mistaken. Which is not a matter of opinion, but a matter of fact. You think I'm the one repeating things over and over, but I promise to stop as soon as you do.
It's obvious that Samsung has no regard for QC across the board; the D series LCDs were also poorly built. I think it's fair game to raise that point again and again; especially when someone trolls Panasonic, without any real evidence that Panasonic has QC/build-quality issues.
Your version of arguing is continuing to talk repeating yourself until the other person doesn't care to respond to you anymore....
Your version appears to be what you just wrote. Or to keep insisting you are speaking facts when I'm speaking opinion when in reality the reverse is true. I keep repeating it because most people tend to read the last page and so long as the last page contains thing I believe are false, wrong or misleading, I'm going to respond. If you don't like it, I recommend the ignore list.
This forum has WAY more Panasonic fans than Samsung.
I'm curious if you've ever considered why that might be the case.
Don't bother replying, I won't respond.
There you go again.
I have a strange feeling your ego won't put up with that though and you'll respond anyway trying to accomplish something. Nothing to save here, those who like whatever it is they like for whatever reasons will continue to... with or without you... Cheers buddy...
Those who want content-free trolling will be sure to put you on a favorites list, too. I mean really, all you did here was spend a great deal of time making baseless accusations about Panasonics and me. And I'm sure you're going, "This is supposed to be a Samsung thread." Well, physician, heal thy freaking self.
As for the 2012 Samsungs, I look forward to seeing them in stores very very soon now. Since one of my possible purchases for 2012 seems to be off the list, I might just have to reconsider and add the E8000 back onto my shopping list.