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post #61 of 113
Does anyone have any setting recommendations that don't make whites so beige-like? I watch a lot of hockey and suzook's setting seem like they are skating on dirty ice.
post #62 of 113
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Originally Posted by Baptizer View Post

Does anyone have any setting recommendations that don't make whites so beige-like? I watch a lot of hockey and suzook's setting seem like they are skating on dirty ice.

Reset and try some others and im sure you will find something to your liking. On another note, whats your source? Cable. Dtv?
post #63 of 113
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Originally Posted by Suzook View Post

Reset and try some others and im sure you will find something to your liking. On another note, whats your source? Cable. Dtv?

Thanks for the posts Suzook and DPG.
Verizon FIOS HD is the source. My kids just watched Despicable Me and it seemed a bit dark (in general). It wasn't horrible or anything, however, a bit 'dull' overall though.
post #64 of 113
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Thanks for the posts Suzook and DPG.
Verizon FIOS HD is the source. My kids just watched Despicable Me and it seemed a bit dark (in general). It wasn't horrible or anything, however, a bit 'dull' overall though.

Just be careful....fios is known to compress the heck out of their feeds. May effect pq no matter the setting. Tune it using a high quality source. Also, dull is sometimes common with animated cgi.

Keep trying and you will get there. Just live with each settings for at least a few days
post #65 of 113
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Originally Posted by Baptizer View Post

Thanks for the posts Suzook and DPG.
Verizon FIOS HD is the source. My kids just watched Despicable Me and it seemed a bit dark (in general). It wasn't horrible or anything, however, a bit 'dull' overall though.

Test the display with a well know Blu-Ray , that will show the differences with your FIOs source.

you will get a near reference look outta the BR , your not the 1st to notice that Fios is off .
A better display has it's faults in that it can / will show how bad a source is.
post #66 of 113
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Originally Posted by DaGamePimp View Post

You are welcome to try the various ones I have done on my 60LE632, they are linked below (in my sig). They certainly seem to have more success on the 60" and 70" but some are using them on the 80" and prefer it to the settings posted by Suzook from Kevin Miller (which does not mean they are more accurate than Mr.Millers 80LE632 cal, people just may find them more suited to their preference).

Best of luck,
Jason

Well, i've had the TV about a week and for the most part, I'm happy with the TV. About what I expected in terms of picture quality. I think my 63 plasma still looks a little better, but I expected that.

Here's my only issue with this set. The reds are really red. Everyone looks sunburned. I've tried Suzook's settings, then Pimps. Pimps was an improvement, but there is still too much red in the flesh tones.

I cycled through the different modes and found that PC mode was showed the most natural skin tone.

So, what settings can I play with to try to improve the skin tone? Please note that know little about calibration and settings. I normally just set my plasmas on movie mode out of the box and was generally happy. Is it possible my TV is a lemon and is causing excessive red?
post #67 of 113
poncekim,

These 632 series Sharps appear to all have an issue with Red and the only way to properly get each individual set calibrated as accurate as possible regarding this issue is going to require either a DIY calibration with proper gear (sensor + software) or a professional calibration from a tech with experience on these newer Sharp displays and their issues.

Do you see reddish tones if you watch something that is Black & White?

Is your 63" plasma calibrated properly? Your eyes simply may not be used to 6500k and the first comment people usually make is it looks too red.

Now if it's REALLY red then you can try to adjust the Red Saturation (keep -) and Hue (keep +).

Best of luck,
Jason
post #68 of 113
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Originally Posted by poncekim View Post

Well, i've had the TV about a week and for the most part, I'm happy with the TV. About what I expected in terms of picture quality. I think my 63 plasma still looks a little better, but I expected that.
Here's my only issue with this set. The reds are really red. Everyone looks sunburned. I've tried Suzook's settings, then Pimps. Pimps was an improvement, but there is still too much red in the flesh tones.
I cycled through the different modes and found that PC mode was showed the most natural skin tone.
So, what settings can I play with to try to improve the skin tone? Please note that know little about calibration and settings. I normally just set my plasmas on movie mode out of the box and was generally happy. Is it possible my TV is a lemon and is causing excessive red?

I believe the red issue goes beyond this Sharp model. See Chad B.'s calibration review - post #46 in this thread. He states that red hue must be adjusted against what measurements suggest to get natural flesh tones. Try about +8 or +9 red hue with either of the calibrations you mentioned to get the proper tone and then curb the amount of red by cutting the red saturation to your liking. Yes, this technically ruins the calibration of the set, but if you're like me, flesh tones HAVE to be near perfect or the picture is unwatchable. Good luck.
post #69 of 113
Im curious...Is everyone seeing the diamond screen effect to some degree? I definitely see it with light skies and hockey games. What's the best way to minimize it.

Also, for clarity, is the diamond screen effect the same as what people are calling the dirty screen effect?

**FYI I have the 70" 632, not the 80

Thanks
-Danny
post #70 of 113
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Originally Posted by Dalonso66 View Post

Im curious...Is everyone seeing the diamond screen effect to some degree? I definitely see it with light skies and hockey games. What's the best way to minimize it.

Also, for clarity, is the diamond screen effect the same as what people are calling the dirty screen effect?

**FYI I have the 70" 632, not the 80

Thanks
-Danny

Really hard to tell. Can you post your settings
post #71 of 113
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Originally Posted by Dalonso66 View Post

Im curious...Is everyone seeing the diamond screen effect to some degree? I definitely see it with light skies and hockey games. What's the best way to minimize it.

Also, for clarity, is the diamond screen effect the same as what people are calling the dirty screen effect?

**FYI I have the 70" 632, not the 80

Thanks
-Danny

that's a know flaw with the 70"ers seems it might be related to how the back Array is MFGer'ed . You might want to call Sharp on that but it is discussed on the 732 70" threads .
post #72 of 113
These are my settings. Aside from the occasional Diamond Screen Effect, these setting really look great.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...&postcount=273
post #73 of 113
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Originally Posted by Dalonso66 View Post

These are my settings. Aside from the occasional Diamond Screen Effect, these setting really look great.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...&postcount=273

DSE is not the diamond effect . DSE is the dirty screen effect & it shows as what looks like dirty portions of screen much like a dirty window would look , mostly seen on total white screens images.
ie;Hockey game, that shows DSE quite quickly. that is flaws in the way the display front panel is manufactured . Some models have it a lot, some never have it, some have small patches of DSE .
The 632 80" seems to never have it at all ,as I have not seen a report of DSE on a 632 80" Yet . While there have been numerous reports on DSE on some Elite Displays . Ask Suzook he has seen it ..
I have checked my 632 80" numerous times for hours looking to see DSE & I have never seen it on my Display.
post #74 of 113
So what the heck is diamond screen effect? If it's what the name implies, I'd say turn down the sharpness to +1 max.
post #75 of 113
it's been only seen on the 70" models , I myself have never seen it , but it is reported on the 70" Sharp threads , I have seen the Dark Corners that some 70"ers have ,
Must add that neither of these issues have been reported on the 632 80" display from all the reports I've seen . I seen the Dark Corners @ Costco on both 70"ers they had on display , 735 & 732 70" models IIRC

also from memory I do recall that both issues were thought to be that the back Array ,the LEDs were not spaced correctly or that some thought that there was not enough LED's for correct coverage . IIRC..............It's been more than a few months since I was even looking @ the 70"ers ,once the 80" appeared I been watching that 80" Jewel since here on AVS
Now I watch the Jewel in comfort of Living Room L O L !
post #76 of 113
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Originally Posted by Baptizer View Post

Does anyone have any setting recommendations that don't make whites so beige-like? I watch a lot of hockey and suzook's setting seem like they are skating on dirty ice.



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Originally Posted by poncekim View Post

Well, i've had the TV about a week and for the most part, I'm happy with the TV. About what I expected in terms of picture quality. I think my 63 plasma still looks a little better, but I expected that.

Here's my only issue with this set. The reds are really red. Everyone looks sunburned. I've tried Suzook's settings, then Pimps. Pimps was an improvement, but there is still too much red in the flesh tones.

I cycled through the different modes and found that PC mode was showed the most natural skin tone.

So, what settings can I play with to try to improve the skin tone? Please note that know little about calibration and settings. I normally just set my plasmas on movie mode out of the box and was generally happy. Is it possible my TV is a lemon and is causing excessive red?


Welcome to the world of "LCD". Being a plasma guy myself, I also have some problems with this. I will post my settings in the next post (that I tried various ways with the sole purpose of trying to get rid of "red blush" while keeping whites as whites. You can try them and see if you like it or even better, modify them to your liking and post them here

By the way, My source is also Fios.
post #77 of 113
I tried various setting and following is what I liked:
It is a variation of "holemania's" settings listed on the first page of this thread:

Set should be set to "dot by dot"

Mode: USER

OPC: off

Backlight: +5

Contrast: +25

Brightness: -3

Color: + 3

Tint: + 3

Sharpness: + 2

Advanced:

CMS Hue, Saturation and Value: all set to 0 except for "red" under saturation set to -3.

Color temp: all 0

Motion enhancement: 120Hz High

ACtive contrast: off

Gamma: - 1

Film Mode: off

Digital noise reduction: off

Monochrome : off

Range of OPC: N/A (left at +16 to -16: default value).

To my eyes, this settings do not make "whites look beige" and yet provide some red blush reduction. If i come across better settings, will share.
post #78 of 113
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Originally Posted by tito_007 View Post

I tried various setting and following is what I liked:
It is a variation of "holemania's" settings listed on the first page of this thread.

Your satisfaction with the picture is all that matters, but colors using your settings are very inaccurate, just not realistic. I'm surprised you like these settings after owning a plasma which can produce a very natural picture.
post #79 of 113
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Originally Posted by FltTester View Post

So what the heck is diamond screen effect?

The real problem here (as I see it) is that many people are calling different visual anomalies "DSE".

I have seen the diamond pattern from full array back-lighting on several different brands/models (including the 70" & 80" 632 series Sharps). Diamond Screen Effect (?)

I have also seen the dirty screen look on many different LCD screens (including some of the high end models from various brands). Dirty Screen Effect (?)

These anomalies are just part of the tech and for those that don't see them consider your selves lucky dawgs... because it's there (where it applies of course, as in the diamond pattern will not be there on an edge-lit set). Just as no-one can tell you if you'll see RBE with DLP, if you'll have motion issues with LCD, if you'll see the shimmer on inexpensive grey front projection screens or the screen texture on rear projection tv's, there is no way of knowing if you'll notice the diamond pattern or see the dirty screen effect (some will see these anomalies and some will not but they are all just part of the tech).

Anyone that claims they are viewing a perfect display are simply not seeing the inherent issues with whichever tech they are viewing (and they all have them in one form or another). The best we can do is see as many as we can and weigh the pros/cons. So please remember to never let anyone tell you that you will not see any of the known anomalies on a particular display. Obviously suggesting that you should not see them because the majority do not appear to on a particular display is a logical suggestion (just never definitive until you see it for yourself).

How about this one... SDE on the 80" due to the pixel structure and someone sitting too close or possibly having great visual acuity. Screen Door Effect
*SDE is usually a term tossed about in the front projection forum but since the 80" is approaching front projection sizing and still 1080p it could very well apply.

Jason
post #80 of 113
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Originally Posted by DaGamePimp View Post

The real problem here (as I see it) is that many people are calling different visual anomalies "DSE".

I have seen the diamond pattern from full array back-lighting on several different brands/models (including the 70" & 80" 632 series Sharps). Diamond Screen Effect (?)

I have also seen the dirty screen look on many different LCD screens (including some of the high end models from various brands). Dirty Screen Effect (?)

These anomalies are just part of the tech and for those that don't see them consider your selves lucky dawgs... because it's there (where it applies of course, as in the diamond pattern will not be there on an edge-lit set). Just as no-one can tell you if you'll see RBE with DLP, if you'll have motion issues with LCD, if you'll see the shimmer on inexpensive grey front projection screens or the screen texture on rear projection tv's, there is no way of knowing if you'll notice the diamond pattern or see the dirty screen effect (some will see these anomalies and some will not but they are all just part of the tech).

Anyone that claims they are viewing a perfect display are simply not seeing the inherent issues with whichever tech they are viewing (and they all have them in one form or another). The best we can do is see as many as we can and weigh the pros/cons. So please remember to never let anyone tell you that you will not see any of the known anomalies on a particular display. Obviously suggesting that you should not see them because the majority do not appear to on a particular display is a logical suggestion (just never definitive until you see it for yourself).

How about this one... SDE on the 80" due to the pixel structure and someone sitting too close or possibly having great visual acuity. Screen Door Effect
*SDE is usually a term tossed about in the front projection forum but since the 80" is approaching front projection sizing and still 1080p it could very well apply.

Jason

I agree with the explanation and no specific brand/make is perfect even plasmas. We all have to enjoy our sets for what they bring...an beautiful HD picture in 1080P. It gets even better and more accurate with calibration posted here if someone can't afford a professional one done. Thanks for the post, Jason, and I can now enjoy my TV again and not worry about all the anomalies stated by others on this forum. Enjoy!
post #81 of 113
I've had my 80" for a number of months already, and had been using the settings posted by Rage2. This past weekend, I decided to try the settings posted by Suzook. I made two small changes (the red settings), and I also changed Active Contrast to on (as I just like it bright).
The picture looks WONDERFUL! I'm one of the non - techies on this board and I just wanted to say thanks to everyone for helping me get the best out of my TV!
post #82 of 113
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Originally Posted by Bkbaueraz View Post

I've had my 80" for a number of months already, and had been using the settings posted by Rage2. This past weekend, I decided to try the settings posted by Suzook. I made two small changes (the red settings), and I also changed Active Contrast to on (as I just like it bright).
The picture looks WONDERFUL! I'm one of the non - techies on this board and I just wanted to say thanks to everyone for helping me get the best out of my TV!

Good deal. Can you tell us what exactly what two values you change so others can try it
post #83 of 113
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Good deal. Can you tell us what exactly what two values you change so others can try it

Yes, I'd like to know as well. The only settings that haven't given me the red push are Jason's using Game Mode. However, when I put those settings in movie mode...I still get a little red push...a little less than Suzook's settings, but it's still there. To be fair though, I've been lazy about trying to get rid of it.
post #84 of 113
I'm using Suzook's (Kevin's ISF) settings and have red hue at +8 and red stauration at -17, which gives, to my eyes, very natural reds/fleshtones. While those are rather significant shifts, they are correcting a rather significant "issue", and I can detect no other skewed color shades as a result. Known baseball uniform colors as well as NASCAR colors look spot on.
post #85 of 113
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Originally Posted by Suzook View Post

Good deal. Can you tell us what exactly what two values you change so others can try it

Sure. I started with FitTesters recommendation, and started by setting the Red hue at +8 and the Red saturation at -12. I've since played around with it, and now have the Red saturation at -10. Flesh tones are very realistic, and red's are still bright and vibrant.
post #86 of 113
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Originally Posted by Bkbaueraz View Post


Sure. I started with FitTesters recommendation, and started by setting the Red hue at +8 and the Red saturation at -12. I've since played around with it, and now have the Red saturation at -10. Flesh tones are very realistic, and red's are still bright and vibrant.

Nice I will give it a try
post #87 of 113
My apologies guys...was certain I knew what my settings were last evening, but as Bkbaueraz discovered, the -17 saturation was not correct (the +8 hue is). I have saturation at -12. Will also give the -10 a try. Thanks.
post #88 of 113
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Originally Posted by FltTester View Post

My apologies guys...was certain I knew what my settings were last evening, but as Bkbaueraz discovered, the -17 saturation was not correct (the +8 sat is). I have saturation at -12. Will also give the -10 a try. Thanks.

Ok red hue at 8+ and red sat at -10 to.confirm
post #89 of 113
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Originally Posted by Suzook View Post


Ok red hue at 8+ and red sat at -10 to.confirm

Tried this adjustment. Looks pretty good
post #90 of 113
Tried -10 saturation, but I prefer a tad bit less red blush...keeping the saturation at -12....darned good picture!
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