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post #31 of 115
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Originally Posted by reanimator View Post

That's terrific news! I've held off buying both FRENCH CONNECTION and WALL STREET in hopes better transfers would eventually be released. Patience pays off!

... now back to holding my breath for PATTON...

Today, FC, tomorrow LoTR!! To the barricades!!
post #32 of 115
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Originally Posted by R Harkness View Post

Has anyone in Canada figured out how to get one of these new releases?

I don't see them mentioned on bestbuy.ca and my local bestbuy did not have any.

I don't even see them listed on the USA bestbuy web site. But I presume even if I could find one there they wouldn't ship to Canada (?).

Thanks,

I ordered mine from bluraysforeveryone.com. I've ordered from them before with no problems.
post #33 of 115
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Today, FC, tomorrow LoTR!! To the barricades!!

Sod LOTR, Terminator 2, all the Trek movies and Dracula are way more in need
post #34 of 115
Ordered a copy for in-store pickup on the way home from work. I'm excited.
post #35 of 115
I doubt that TFC will open the floodgates, but it's a damned fine start. I would gladly - GLADLY - pay cash money all over again for a complete set of unmolested Trek movies.
post #36 of 115
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Originally Posted by InspectorToschi View Post

I ordered mine from bluraysforeveryone.com. I've ordered from them before with no problems.

Thank you! There are always people wiser in the ways of Ordering-FU than I.

I just ordered the blu-ray.

I noticed it also said The Ring is going to be a Best Buy exclusive, but available on that site too. I've been really waiting for that one on Blu-Ray. Do they take pre-orders?
post #37 of 115
It's apparent the complaints on the Internet about the first transfer on BD were heard by Fox and taken to heart. Sanity prevails when the studios listen more closely to consumer complaints.
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Originally Posted by Phantom Stranger View Post

It's apparent the complaints on the Internet about the first transfer on BD were heard by Fox and taken to heart. Sanity prevails when the studios listen more closely to consumer complaints.

I doubt it. I think Owen Roizman tore 'em a new one, just as Ridley Scott tore Paramount a new one over the first Gladiator disc.
post #39 of 115
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I doubt it. I think Owen Roizman tore 'em a new one, just as Ridley Scott tore Paramount a new one over the first Gladiator disc.

Yep, but it was universal's gladiator transfer Paramount used
post #40 of 115
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Originally Posted by spectator View Post

I doubt it. I think Owen Roizman tore 'em a new one, just as Ridley Scott tore Paramount a new one over the first Gladiator disc.

Really? How do we know Scott spoke up over the first Gladiator disc?
post #41 of 115
I was hoping they'd have kept Friedkin's "color correction" featurette on the new Blu-Ray. Obviously there's no reason to -- I just thought it would be hilarious given his explanation of why he did it in the first place ("let's turn down the color, and look at how much better it looks!"). I laughed outloud when I showed it to some friends.
post #42 of 115
I will wait for direct comparsions before shooting off my mouth. Still waiting for the promised Patton and Fifth Element.


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Originally Posted by dvdmike007 View Post

Sod LOTR, Terminator 2, all the Trek movies and Dracula are way more in need

Different studios.

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Originally Posted by R Harkness View Post

Really? How do we know Scott spoke up over the first Gladiator disc?

Just conjecture. Ridley Scott unlike many directors (when money is not involved that is) has had no problem in the past berating studios. Wish he complain about the strong EE in Blackhawk Down.
post #43 of 115
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I will wait for direct comparsions before shooting off my mouth. Still waiting for the promised Patton and Fifth Element.




Different studios.



Just conjecture. Ridley Scott unlike many directors (when money is not involved that is) has had no problem in the past berating studios. Wish he complain about the strong EE in Blackhawk Down.

So is Lord of the rings.....
post #44 of 115
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Originally Posted by dvdmike007 View Post

Yep, but it was universal's gladiator transfer Paramount used

Regardless, the point is that the correction was the result of industry-voiced displeasure, not consumer-voiced displeasure.
post #45 of 115
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Originally Posted by spectator View Post

Regardless, the point is that the correction was the result of industry-voiced displeasure, not consumer-voiced displeasure.

And would of been unkown without the 'consumer-voiced displeasure'.
post #46 of 115
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And would of been unkown without the 'consumer-voiced displeasure'.

No, I think it was the publicity for the initial release, in which Friedkin was talking up his modifications, that revealed the issue to Roizman.
post #47 of 115
There was "consumer-voiced displeasure" but this wasn't Gladiator, this was people getting annoyed with a disc that looked exactly how the director wanted it to look. Fox could've simply stuck their fingers in their ears and gone "la la la, we don't care", just as Friedkin did (more or less ) when questioned about the new transfer.

But when a DoP shoots down a transfer so publicly (he would've found out eventually) it's bound to make the studio take notice, and given how Roizman and his director went on to supervise The Exorcist together, it wouldn't surprise me if Fox redid it at their request.
post #48 of 115
I watched this last night. Disclaimer: I had never seen the movie before or the first BD. In the first 5-10 minutes I thought it was a bit oversaturated and it also was pretty grainy, like it was shot on different stock than the remainder of the film. It seemed to clear up nicely in both detail and saturation; detail was consistent with other releases I've watched of that era. My feelings are that it looks good, maybe slightly oversaturated but definitely not distractingly so. I'd rather have this look than the completely washed out look of the first release.
post #49 of 115
Now to wait for the Best Buy exclusivity period to run out.
post #50 of 115
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Originally Posted by Patsfan123 View Post

I watched this last night. Disclaimer: I had never seen the movie before or the first BD. In the first 5-10 minutes I thought it was a bit oversaturated and it also was pretty grainy, like it was shot on different stock than the remainder of the film. It seemed to clear up nicely in both detail and saturation; detail was consistent with other releases I've watched of that era. My feelings are that it looks good, maybe slightly oversaturated but definitely not distractingly so. I'd rather have this look than the completely washed out look of the first release.

The Blu-ray for French Connection II is a little oversaturated. I'm sure that both movies were scanned at the same time, and this new "remaster" of the first film is really the original scan without Friedkin's modifications imposed.
post #51 of 115
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Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post

The Blu-ray for French Connection II is a little oversaturated. I'm sure that both movies were scanned at the same time, and this new "remaster" of the first film is really the original scan without Friedkin's modifications imposed.

That seems extremely likely to me.
post #52 of 115
Anyone heard anything about the new French digi-book having the new transfer as well?
post #53 of 115
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Originally Posted by raoul_duke View Post

Anyone heard anything about the new French digi-book having the new transfer as well?

I have the French digibook. It's the old transfer. Exact same encode as the original blu-ray.
post #54 of 115
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Originally Posted by spectator View Post

That seems extremely likely to me.

In the color timing featurette on the previous Blu-ray, Friedkin flipped back and forth from the unprocessed HD scan to his recolored version. Not only did the colors go wonky, but because he defocused the color layer, part of the image was literally out of focus. The amount of detail in the picture dropped dramatically every time he flipped the switch. But he couldn't tell because he was reviewing the results on a 20" CRT monitor!

Thankfully, Fox saved that original scan. Now, if only they'd release the orignal scan of Aliens before James Cameron teal'ed it up.
post #55 of 115
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Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post


In the color timing featurette on the previous Blu-ray, Friedkin flipped back and forth from the unprocessed HD scan to his recolored version. Not only did the colors go wonky, but because he defocused the color layer, part of the image was literally out of focus. The amount of detail in the picture dropped dramatically every time he flipped the switch. But he couldn't tell because he was reviewing the results on a 20" CRT monitor!

Thankfully, Fox saved that original scan. Now, if only they'd release the orignal scan of Aliens before James Cameron teal'ed it up.

And Rescan alien 3 and res while they are at it
post #56 of 115
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Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post

In the color timing featurette on the previous Blu-ray, Friedkin flipped back and forth from the unprocessed HD scan to his recolored version. Not only did the colors go wonky, but because he defocused the color layer, part of the image was literally out of focus. The amount of detail in the picture dropped dramatically every time he flipped the switch. But he couldn't tell because he was reviewing the results on a 20" CRT monitor!

How could you tell that he couldn't tell because he was watching it on a 20" CRT? You were watching him watch it on a 20" CRT. Either both of you would be able to see the detail loss or neither of you would.
post #57 of 115
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Originally Posted by spectator View Post


How could you tell that he couldn't tell because he was watching it on a 20" CRT? You were watching him watch it on a 20" CRT. Either both of you would be able to see the detail loss or neither of you would.

He might be insane, that would explain the transfer
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post #59 of 115
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Originally Posted by eric.exe View Post

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Fr...3/#Screenshots

Nice.

Yum
post #60 of 115
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Originally Posted by spectator View Post

No, I think it was the publicity for the initial release, in which Friedkin was talking up his modifications, that revealed the issue to Roizman.

Actually I was referring to Gladiator, guess I should of have been more clear.
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