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post #61 of 115
I am stunned. Off to Best Buy I go. Tomorrow morning. First thing.

Now please... JUST FIX PATTON!
post #62 of 115
Credits at 1:43;45.


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post #63 of 115
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Credits at 1:43;45.


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Have to check the old disk for comparison but it sounds like this is a new version based on the credit.
post #64 of 115
Well, it is $25 now. No thanks. I'd have paid $15 but full retail can kiss my bootie.
post #65 of 115
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Well, it is $25 now. No thanks. I'd have paid $15 but full retail can kiss my bootie.

I am not worrying, soon it will be 15 or less.
post #66 of 115
Well, we swang on by them again this evening and I asked if they would give me the lower price.

"No."

So my wife wanted in iPod dock. i said, "How about i I purchase that iPod dock over there?"

30 minutes go by and finally the manager says "yes."

Groovy.
post #67 of 115
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Originally Posted by Matt_Stevens View Post

Well, we swang on by them again this evening and I asked if they would give me the lower price.

"No."

So my wife wanted in iPod dock. i said, "How about i I purchase that iPod dock over there?"

30 minutes go by and finally the manager says "yes."

Groovy.

Well....there you go.
post #68 of 115
Price is back to $15 for all 4 movies in the series.. I think there was a glitch in their system yesterday because a whole lot more movies are on sale now.

I popped in Wall Street for a quick check and it is definately a new master. The photography is still a bit soft (how it was filmed) but the contrast is better and the print is clean. Overall the image is pleasing and less flat due to the better contrast.
post #69 of 115
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Have to check the old disk for comparison but it sounds like this is a new version based on the credit.

It says "2011" on the credit. It's definitely a new master.
post #70 of 115
My PS3 overheated! Sh*t. Looks like I won't be watching this until i get this puppy fixed or replaced. Such is life.
post #71 of 115
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How could you tell that he couldn't tell because he was watching it on a 20" CRT? You were watching him watch it on a 20" CRT. Either both of you would be able to see the detail loss or neither of you would.

There's a limit to how much detail the human eye can resolve on a tiny TV screen like that.
post #72 of 115
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It says "2011" on the credit. It's definitely a new master.

The framing is slightly different too which is a sign.
post #73 of 115
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The framing is slightly different too which is a sign.

Just noticed that too as my copy just came in. Even the back cover says "new high definition master supervised by" Friedkin & Roizman.
post #74 of 115
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There's a limit to how much detail the human eye can resolve on a tiny TV screen like that.

Ya, and there's a limit to everything,so what ? Simply no way you could know what he could see on the monitor he used.

Art
post #75 of 115
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Ya, and there's a limit to everything,so what ? Simply no way you could know what he could see on the monitor he used.

Considering that he signed off on the version that drops half the detail and never acknowledged it in the featurette, I think it's pretty damned obvious that he couldn't see the difference. The screen he was viewing it on was comically small. You'd need to stand with your face up to it and use a magnifying glass.
post #76 of 115
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Considering that he signed off on the version that drops half the detail and never acknowledged it in the featurette, I think it's pretty damned obvious that he couldn't see the difference. The screen he was viewing it on was comically small. You'd need to stand with your face up to it and use a magnifying glass.

You seem to have missed my point that if you could tell that the detail dropped when you watched an image of his 20" screen, it necessarily means that the detail change was visible on that 20" screen.

And, in light of your statement above, I take it that it's safe to assume that you've spoken with Mr. Friedkin and verified that the monitor used in the demonstration video is the only display on which he ever looked at any of the materials.
post #77 of 115
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Considering that he signed off on the version that drops half the detail and never acknowledged it in the featurette, I think it's pretty damned obvious that he couldn't see the difference. The screen he was viewing it on was comically small. You'd need to stand with your face up to it and use a magnifying glass.

Maybe he did but you wouldn't know. Please make statements that are fact as fact and assumptions etc as such.

Art
post #78 of 115
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Maybe he did but you wouldn't know. Please make statements that are fact as fact and assumptions etc as such.

Are you kidding me with this? What's your interest in defending the previous crappy Blu-ray transfer?
post #79 of 115
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Are you kidding me with this? What's your interest in defending the previous crappy Blu-ray transfer?

It's not about defending anything, Josh; it's about sharing reliable information. Accurate details are hard enough to come by without suppositions and assumptions in the way.
post #80 of 115
Even if it's not true, Josh Z is still right.
post #81 of 115
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Even if it's not true, Josh Z is still right.

Even if what's not true, he's still right about what?
post #82 of 115
Another thread turning into a pissing contest.
post #83 of 115
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Even if what's not true, he's still right about what?

It is true that Friedkin approved the previous transfer based on screening the results on a tiny CRT studio monitor. You can see it in the color timing featurette.

It also is true that there's a limit to the amount of detail the human eye can discern at such a small screen size, especially so for a 75-year-old man like Friedkin.

I don't think it's remotely a stretch to make the obvious connection between these two points.
post #84 of 115
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It is true that Friedkin approved the previous transfer based on screening the results on a tiny CRT studio monitor. You can see it in the color timing featurette.

Again- I take it you've spoken with Friedkin and verified that this was the one and only monitor he used. I mean, you wouldn't just watch a featurette and presume it was necessarily telling you everything, right?

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It also is true that there's a limit to the amount of detail the human eye can discern at such a small screen size, especially so for a 75-year-old man like Friedkin.

I don't think it's remotely a stretch to make the obvious connection between these two points.

It's not a stretch to imagine that this might be a part of what happened. It is a stretch to make a determination and then argue the point based on having viewed a supplemental feature on a disc. You know better, Josh.
post #85 of 115
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It's not about defending anything, Josh; it's about sharing reliable information. Accurate details are hard enough to come by without suppositions and assumptions in the way.

Exactly !

Art
post #86 of 115
Did you guys get a two disc case with just the one disc?

I did. Put the old version in the empty second discs place!
post #87 of 115
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Did you guys get a two disc case with just the one disc?

I did. Put the old version in the empty second discs place!

Yes. Wall Street came in a 1 disc-er though.
post #88 of 115
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to me... it looks like there should be a happy medium between the two prints... the over saturated version is not good, but the new master, as good as it looks, needs better color control.

I know for a fact those car colors are not correct.



Which one is the remastered version, top or bottom ?

I was recently in DC, almost strolling in the same spot and have to say the bottom picture was most accurate for a sunny winter day.

Gman
post #89 of 115
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Which one is the remastered version, top or bottom ?

Top.

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I was recently in DC, almost strolling in the same spot and have to say the bottom picture was most accurate for a sunny winter day.

This is a movie, not an almanac.
post #90 of 115
Does anyone know how long this will be a Best Buy exclusive? Is the in-store price the same as the online price? Also, does the version from Best Buy have any BB branding on the sleeve or case, or is it a regular package that only they are selling? Thanks!
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