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post #181 of 348
Got the call yesterday, my replacement arrives on Tuesday.smile.gif
Other than the obvious manufacturing defect, I really like this display, great features and picture, and for the price couldn't be better.
post #182 of 348
Hey, I bought my 60" about two weeks ago and love it. I am not a videophile, but am enjoying getting to know the TV. I plan to be around the forum pretty regularly.

Question: In THX, the picture seems to be brownish. I have read that THX may produce "warmed" colors, but this brown tint just isn't appealing to me, and I am wondering if that is just my preference, or if my TV is doing something it shouldn't(?). Using Standard mode and adjusting the user settings, I get a picture I like a lot, so the THX is not a huge deal. But I have read that a lot of people on here like THX and I want to make sure I am not missing out on something.

Any thoughts are appreciated.
post #183 of 348
I don't think anything is wrong, mine in THX is similar. I also thought this really wasn't what I liked as far as picture. But try giving it an extended try, I've found on certain movies it was a much more "atmosphereic" picture. Something like Battleship, which has brighter more vibrant colors didn't look so good.
post #184 of 348
I thought the same about the brownish tint, and wasn't nuts about it. Will try it on different programming.
post #185 of 348
Thanks for the input, guys. Perhaps you and I are just not cultured and sophisticated enough to recognize a good picture when we see it, but I'm glad it's not a problem with my TV. And as much as I may not care for THX, it sure can't make Death Dealer Beckinsale look bad on my kid's new 60" college fund.
post #186 of 348
The THX setting conforms to certain standards that the "experts" consider optimal for movie viewing but I don't have the eyes of an expert so I use the THX setting only when I think the particular movie I am watching will benefit from it.

The THX setting is "warm" and most regular folks would probably agree that it looks too warm but I think that is only because we are conditioned by seeing 99% of the videos we watch with colour, gamma etc settings that don't conform to the THX standard so that when we do watch something with THX settings it looks wrong even though it is actually right.

If you don't enjoy movies using THX then don't use it - calibrate your TV to how YOU like it and enjoy. As I said I am very picky when it comes to using THX and probably only choose to use it 10% of the time when I throw a Blu-ray on.
post #187 of 348
Gday Everyone,

Not sure if this is a problem with the 50PM6700 that we have had for around six months, but there has been a couple of times recently where the electrcity supply to our house has been interrupted and then when the electrcity comes back on line the TV has turned on. We have been in bed at 0300 and heard the tv on and thought that one of the kids were up, which they weren't. We knew that the power had been off as all our clock radios were flashing.

Anyone else had this happen with this tv?

Regards,

noluck
post #188 of 348
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Originally Posted by travbedaman View Post

Well I just checked and there was no update for mine, I still have the 4.00.12, while that update fixed most of the issues from the trumotion, it also created two very annoying things.
1. While using the Netflix app, videos will start to get this choppy framerate to them and doesnt go away unless you hit the settings button, but still comes back after 5 to 10 minutes, so basically Netflix is kinda unwatchable to me.
2. While in 3D mode I can no loner use cinema zoom or zoom as they are greyed out. I almost always use cinema zoom while in 3D cause I think it gives a better effect so I miss this.
Im hoping the next update fixes these issues and for the love of god, doesnt create anymore.

I just got Netflix, and noticed the problem travbedaman has with the jerkiness on panning shots when watching movies. Any body else experienceing this?
travbedaman did you come up with a solution?
post #189 of 348
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Originally Posted by Plasma maniac View Post

I just got Netflix, and noticed the problem travbedaman has with the jerkiness on panning shots when watching movies. Any body else experienceing this?
travbedaman did you come up with a solution?

Only way to fix this is by using an external player such as a ps3 or bluray player it seems. I stream through the tv apps and I don't mind the black bars on Bluray content. But like I said if u don't then streaming through an external source will let you zoom in and minimize black bars.
post #190 of 348
I also get the choppy frame rate in Netflix.
post #191 of 348
Just pulled the trigger tonight on this TV. Choose it over a Panny 55"GT. I simply liked the picture better. I like a more grainy picture, and I'm not big on very vibrant colors, I much prefer a more natural coloring. My old plasma (R.I.P) and all the other LCD's in the house tend to be nearly 10% below "half" on my custom color settings. So that added vibrancy of the Panny might not have been my thing anyway. I know it's technically not the better set, but I think it's the set for me. 5 more diagnal inches and a few hundreds bucks less.

Hey if I hate it, I have a 10 day return policy from the place I bought it, and they're local. Picking it up tomorrow, I'll get back in when I watch it for a day or two.
post #192 of 348
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Originally Posted by disfigured View Post

Just pulled the trigger tonight on this TV. Choose it over a Panny 55"GT. I simply liked the picture better. I like a more grainy picture, and I'm not big on very vibrant colors, I much prefer a more natural coloring. My old plasma (R.I.P) and all the other LCD's in the house tend to be nearly 10% below "half" on my custom color settings. So that added vibrancy of the Panny might not have been my thing anyway. I know it's technically not the better set, but I think it's the set for me. 5 more diagnal inches and a few hundreds bucks less.
Hey if I hate it, I have a 10 day return policy from the place I bought it, and they're local. Picking it up tomorrow, I'll get back in when I watch it for a day or two.


If u can control the light in the room then this tv will look gorgeous! I too was torn between a 60st50 or this. Picked up the 60pm6700 for under a grand and didn't even think twice about exchanging it for the st50 and paying a g note more!
post #193 of 348
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Originally Posted by Flipkronikz View Post

If u can control the light in the room then this tv will look gorgeous! I too was torn between a 60st50 or this. Picked up the 60pm6700 for under a grand and didn't even think twice about exchanging it for the st50 and paying a g note more!

I liked it over the ST for sure, but it was the GT I still passed up for this set.

I was hoping to not control the light as much in the room it was in (one of the benefits of the Panny GT), but I've been dealing with it for 6 years with my former plasma (50" HP Plasma) so it's not the end of the world. The room has a large 9' bow window and a doublehung window, but isn't southern exposed. I have semi-transparent Roman shades and opaque "panel" curtains (wife says it make the ceilings look taller), so I have a good control over how much light I can block. A lot or a little. I'm not crazy about the idea of drawing the panels on the weekends when I'm home, but for $200 less and 5 more diagonal inches it's not a bad trade off. We're home at night mostly.

My only concern after joining the thread is that I don't have wi-fi in the house. Not so much for the apps, my DSL line is too slow for streaming, but for the firmware updates. Is there a manual way of doing it? Like flashing a bios via a usb drive or something?
post #194 of 348
You can download new software updates from the LG website.
post #195 of 348
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Originally Posted by smurphee View Post

You can download new software updates from the LG website.

That's great, but there doesn't seem to be any instructions in either the user manual or the set up manual as to how to install the updates "manually". I only have 10 days for return based on dissatisfaction, so I want to be on top of this tomorrow (if need be). In fact there's little need to even have it connected to the internet as of now. I'm trying to avoid getting a wi-fi set up in my house just so I can update my TV a couple of times a year. Should I pick up a router or Wireless router on my way to pick up the TV tomorrow?
post #196 of 348
Never mind, found it. Manual instructions are on the same page you get the zipfiles for the firmware....... ;0).

I wonder which version it will have when I pick it up...... .
post #197 of 348
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Originally Posted by Flipkronikz View Post

Only way to fix this is by using an external player such as a ps3 or bluray player it seems. I stream through the tv apps and I don't mind the black bars on Bluray content. But like I said if u don't then streaming through an external source will let you zoom in and minimize black bars.

So you are saying the Netflix choppiness is an inherent flaw in the operating system of the 6700? I wonder if anyone has contacted LG to see of thry will be creating a new firmware upgrade to address this issue?
Whats the point of a smart tv if I need to hook up an external device to get Netflix?
Would it make it make any difference in the playback of Netflix, if I hooked up via a hardwire instead the wireless? In case the transfer rate isn' t fast enough over the wifi?
post #198 of 348
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Originally Posted by Plasma maniac View Post

So you are saying the Netflix choppiness is an inherent flaw in the operating system of the 6700? I wonder if anyone has contacted LG to see of thry will be creating a new firmware upgrade to address this issue?
Whats the point of a smart tv if I need to hook up an external device to get Netflix?
Would it make it make any difference in the playback of Netflix, if I hooked up via a hardwire instead the wireless? In case the transfer rate isn' t fast enough over the wifi?

I'm hard wired from pc to router and router to tv. I had some buffering problems when using media share on wireless. So the Ethernet fixed that problem and now it works flawlessly streaming hd content. I turn on Netflix and i still see the choppy framerate but not as bad but still there. There seems to be a problem within the Netflix app itself as I can stream videos to the internal player as well as the lg browser just fine. Netflix works great wireless on the ps3 but have yet to try streaming movies from pc.
post #199 of 348
I would assume that if Netflix is the only app that is giving you trouble that the problem probably is at Netflix' s end and not a problem with the TV.
post #200 of 348
Netflix works fine on the ps3 though and that is through a wireless connection. I'm assuming both Netflix apps, on ps3 and TV, are streaming from the same server. I'm able to play huge 3d 1080p files through Ethernet connection and the frame rate never drops. If enough of us complain about the issue maybe LG will do something about this software issue and release an update! God forbid any problems arise with a new update lol.
post #201 of 348
Got it hung on the wall, about an hour ago, and I am flabbergasted. I guess my 6 y/o HP plasma was getting dated, because this picture is just delightful. I'm sure the 55" Panny GT would have been nice, but I'm not even close to being dissapointed, quite the opposite. My friend who helped me hang it (we're always one upping each other), thought it was a terrific picture.

TV came preloaded w/ the 4.00xx firmware version so no "cakey" or "soap opera" faces or lighting. Not that I can tell anyway. As of now I'm using the standard mode, with the contrast turned down to 62, and the color down too. I don't want to encourage I.R for a while, plus I like the more natural skin tones with less color. Ditched that Eco Energy saving crap right off the bat, didn't like that at all. I'll pay the few bucks extra buck not to have that irritating change in picture when the light changes. Plus the adjustments it makes aren't to my liking. Just got into the advanced mode but left everything as is for now. I want to watch a variety of programing before I start noodling with too many settings. I don't know if the Tru-Motion is on or off, but the panel has been performing nearly flawlessly with NASCAR and some other moving sports.

Couple of questions:
  • Would HDMI help me on the DirecTV box? I'm using component, and I have my DVD player (soon to be BluRay Player or PS3) on HDMI. The HP only had one HDMI so I didn't want to tear every thing apart to get to the back of the settop box , and I don't have a second HDMI right now. Worth it? My recollection from setting up the previous plasma was a negative on that.
  • This TV stays on standby correct? You don't want to be powering it up and down, the HP was like that.
  • My only regret is, with not using any of the apps (my DSL line is just a tad slow for streaming), and not really interested in 3d, I'm wondering now if the 60" set below would have been good enough of a leap in PQ, and have cost just 1K? I know this is the better LG panel, but how much of the extra cost is just the apps? And how much better is this panel than the one below it?


Who knows, my DSL isn't that bad, it just buffers longer with HD content than other broadband connections. And FB and YouTube aren't as demanding, not to mention the browser might be neat in a pinch. I'm sure I'll pick up on some flaws because it's not optimal right now. But the tweaking will come soon enough.

Meh, we can second guess ourselves till the cows come home. 6 years ago my HP came with a thin limegreen line in it, so it had to go back. So I'm ahead of the game so far with this TV, as it's not defective. Haven't investigated for dead pixels yet, but I can stand a few here and there.
post #202 of 348
I just went on LG's webpage and chatted with a tech that informed that there ha been no complaints regarding Netflixs quality so far. Soas far as I now I am the only one to make a formal complaint/ So maybe if everyone else gets on the bandwagon we can getthe app updated to correct the choppy frame rate.
I really don't want to buy another component anytime soon.

I also asked what the latest formware upgrade was, and its 04.02.04 which came out in Nov. in case anyone is interested.

Hey disfigured
Glad you like your tv! I also have for the most part given up on the energy saver. I have used the picture wizard and it seems to make an improvement, it would be interesting to hear what your findings are. I am constantly changing format modes depending on the programing and video source, as I just got my set last weekend too.
I prefer to use the HDMI inputs as my players only output 1080i over the HDMI, and components are only480p/576p I believe. You have to go into the DVD players settings to change this. This limitation is built into the players to limit copyright infrigement I think. Maybe others could verify this?
However this maynot be an issue, as most tvs will upsample the signal to meet their resolution. It all depends on the quality of your components I guess in the end.
post #203 of 348
Disfigured: Assuming your DSL is slow due to other considerations than cost (i.e. you have higher speeds available but cost too much) you may be interested in a Cisco (really Linksys) dual WAN router and ordering a second DSL line. The router will take these 2 lines and combine the bandwidth for you, resulting in much higher speeds. Many Telco's will put a second DSL line in no problem. The example I'm thinking of is you may be too far away from the CO to obtain higher speeds, but whatever you have now could be almost doubled.

The router models are RV042, RV048. The first has 4 Ethernet ports, the second 8. One drawback is they are NOT wireless. They are marketed as small business routers. Not expensive, around 150 or so.

My 6700 has a couple hundred hours now and the picture just gets better and better. I have no netflix issues either. My incoming pipe is 50/5 and wireless or cat6 work equally well although I prefer wired.

Cheers

Pete
post #204 of 348
It seems some of us with this set don't have the Netflix problem. I wonder if the latest update fixes the problem. Will report back.
post #205 of 348
@ PlasmaManiac

I haven't been switching between modes much, and I've been sticking with the standard mode tweaked (as described). I have dabbled in the other advanced features (Black Levels, Dynamic Contrast etc etc) within the standard mode with varided success. Next step is to actually read what they're supposed to accomplish and make decisions on that basis too. I did run the picture wizard, very similar to an LCD monitor tuner. It improved things a bit, but I don't think my particular panel wasn't very far off. Only a few notches away to dial it in perfect.

I'm going to throw an HDMI cable on the Satbox because I do have the ability to stream 1080p content via DirectTV. It's a buffered PayPerView type of set up. So that issue is solved. I believe though component can go up to 720p/1080i. The DVD player is being moved to the bedroom, and a PS3 or BluRay player is coming soon.

My current firmware version is 4.00.16. I'm going to leave it as is till I know what the panel's strengths and weaknesses are. Otherwise I won't know if an update improved anything. And I'd like to hear from a decent sampling size about the newest version.

@PCD

My DSL line runs about 1500/310. Not bad but about a 3rd of burst cable in the area. I'm actually very close to the CO, and I think they offer a commercial line but I couldn't justify the price. I have Comcast Cable as an option too. But the problem with the Comcast service is it's laggy as hell for gaming. I live in an older neighborhood of clustered single family homes, and when I bought this house I had both services so I could test each in the same server (I'm an FPSer and SimRacer). The Comcast was brutal. The DSL on the other hand was rock solid for gaming. No lag and I rarely if ever disconnect. I've gone on 7 hour marathons without a single hiccup. My BFBC2 stats: http://bfbcs.com/stats_pc/disfigured .

The other problem with Comcast is the best price is the bundled package and I'll never give up my DirectTV Sat Dish. The picture is much better with the Dish. I've seen Comcast feeds and they just don't make the cut IMO.

I'm intrigued about the second DSL line. My current line only costs $22.00/month. And while it's slow for streaming, it's very reliable and as I've said I'm a killer on the Battlefield with it. A second one properly networked, DMZ'd and QOS'd (nothing can interfere with my gaming), might be just the ticket. Thanks for the suggestion.

I'd preferred a wired connection. My TV and cabinet are hung. The cabinet is "floating" and all the wires run from behind it, to behind the TV (even the power cable) so the TV and cabinet truly look floating. The other side of the wall the TV is on is "The Den". I've been seriously thinking of cutting an access panel so I can get to the backs of my components. Running Cat5s via this access panel would be easy. The phone line that contains the DSL is right there.

I may forgo all of it though, as I don't have an FB page (got rid of the one I had), nor a Twatter account. I'm 50 and I tend to still separate my technologies. PC's for gaming and surfing, TV's for broadcast and BluRay. I rarely watch anything on my PC and vice versa I'm not too interested in surfing on my TV. As far as I know.

My only motivation to get the TV "online" is for NetFlix. Ironically I don't like much TV (PBS and NHL hockey for the most part). I don't watch many prime time shows and don't subscribe to any pay channels like HBO. But when I did have a NetFlix free trial I loved watching all the old TV series and other things available on it (just not on my PC that much). Plus the newer content on mailed BluRay's will be nice too, since I don't own a single BluRay as of now.

Thanks everyone and good luck with your TVs.
post #206 of 348
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Originally Posted by Compensating View Post

Hey, I bought my 60" about two weeks ago and love it. I am not a videophile, but am enjoying getting to know the TV. I plan to be around the forum pretty regularly.
Question: In THX, the picture seems to be brownish. I have read that THX may produce "warmed" colors, but this brown tint just isn't appealing to me, and I am wondering if that is just my preference, or if my TV is doing something it shouldn't(?). Using Standard mode and adjusting the user settings, I get a picture I like a lot, so the THX is not a huge deal. But I have read that a lot of people on here like THX and I want to make sure I am not missing out on something.
Any thoughts are appreciated.

My first plasma had a cinema mode that did the same thing. So far with this TV I'm seeing something similar. I also don't like the decreased contrast either. Hard lines become awfully soft in the THX mode. But I've only had the TV one night, and that was using the THX on broadcast TV. I'm not that crazy about it either and have also opted for the standard setting slightly modified . THX is probably a setting best taken advantage of with a BluRay playing.
post #207 of 348
After months of playing around with the settings by eye and the avs hd709 disc I have come up with settings i will never change. Until I purchase a colorimeter I won't be messing with white balance or cms. I'm at just under 300hours.

Expert settings
Contrast 90
Brightness 50
V sharp 10
H sharp 10
Color 54
Gamma medium
Black level low
Color temp medium
All advanced settings off

I use these setting from sports, bluray, ps3 Netflix.
post #208 of 348
Disfigured: A lot of what you say resonates witn me as well. FB, Twitter? Bah..never bothered. Cable? Well yeah i do have a HD package but I probably watch less than 10hrs a month and all of that is sports. It is primarily hockey (but not right now). Blue Ray is my preference.

As for gaming, I have a seperate machine built for that purpose and an Alienware MX14, so i dont game on the LG.

I'm a Sysadmin for a medium size company, and 55 in April smile.gif

Cheers

Pete
post #209 of 348
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Originally Posted by PCD View Post

Disfigured: A lot of what you say resonates witn me as well. FB, Twitter? Bah..never bothered. Cable? Well yeah i do have a HD package but I probably watch less than 10hrs a month and all of that is sports. It is primarily hockey (but not right now). Blue Ray is my preference.
As for gaming, I have a seperate machine built for that purpose and an Alienware MX14, so i dont game on the LG.
I'm a Sysadmin for a medium size company, and 55 in April smile.gif
Cheers
Pete

Despite all the things we're not going to utilize to the fullest extent, the PQ/Size/Cost ratio of the TV is just find with me as it seems to be with you also.. Although whenever I use the "Home" button and see all the things available I'm sort of licking my chops.

I was a career carpenter and contractor, now working for a huge retailer (I think you can guess who). I'm a millwork specialist for them. I've been building my own machines for gaming for about 14 years now. But I'm behind the curve as of now since I didn't pick up a copy of BF3, the franchise has been rather disappointing lately. I'm a semi-self-taught "geek". Not full on, but I teach myself what I need to know for the things I'm interested or concerned about. I did run out and get a few MS certs while unemployed recently. Networking isn't going to fun. I've never had anything more than a single admin/user PC in the house. But the way routers are now it shouldn't be too difficult. And if opt for that second DSL line I'm sure my provider will give me some support on setting it up to my needs.

I am getting some "cakey" faces on certain channels. Not brutal, but noticeable. I think it's because I've turned down the contrast on the basic setting and am not using dynamic contrast. I'm trying to avoid I.R the first few hundred hours of the panel. Switching my DVD player to the component, and the Sat box to HDMI this afternoon. That's an easy switch as I don't have to run any new wires through the walls. The component should be just fine for the DVD player, and the HDMI will now allow me to order 1080p content through my Satellite provider. I just wonder how the up-conversion will look as the PQ now is quite good. My Sat box doesn't allow the 1080p option of output if it doesn't detect an HDMI cable. I originally had it the way it is now, because rumor was that the HDMI cable improve slower menu reaction. We'll see if that's true.

Question for everyone:

If I see something I don't like, and rewind my DVR, adjust a setting and replay it, will it take effect on the played recording? If the signal is recorded before ever entering the TV I don't see how this isn't accurate.

It does seem to work, but sometimes the changes are so subtle it's hard to tell. Last night I saw some horizontal pixelation during a commercial, I rewound the scene over and over again and tried different settings to eliminate it. Turns out the "Film mode" being off helped the most . Originally I thought the Tru-Motion would help but after running through every option, but its influence was negligible.
post #210 of 348
Been tweeking the plasma back and forth a bit now but can't tell if I like medium gamma or high gamma? What setting should I be using? Medium just looks like it doesn't have that pop or depth to the picture and high seems like it might be crushing blacks but I don't know.
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