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post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 
I just want an ergonomic remote with fully customizable buttons (seriously, is that too much to ask?). Each button gets programmed by aiming it at a different remote.

Added bonuses are:
-The remote size, and channel/volume control, are similar to this: http://i40.tinypic.com/2ymdu20.jpg
-The power button can sequentially do multiple devices.
post #2 of 12
Thread Starter 
Follow up question: for those "learning" remotes out there, is that function only used to determine the overall code of the remote it's learning from?

I need the volume buttons to control my receiver, and channel control my TV. Is that usually not possible with learning remotes like this: http://i42.tinypic.com/334i3ip.jpg
post #3 of 12
I didn't see the pics but just about any universal can do that. It's called volume lock or punch thru. You can assign any function to any key on any cheap one-for-all. You must generally learn every command. Harmony uses one learn to identify a whole device, but not during a learning session but during initial device setup.
post #4 of 12
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After plenty of research, I bought the URC-WR7: http://i44.tinypic.com/9gdmq0.jpg

It's clunky and not ergonomic, but it seems to be the best available. $25 shipped. I plan to use the middle gray 4-way pad for channels/volume, which is at least similar to my ideal.
post #5 of 12
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Originally Posted by aewfqawe View Post

After plenty of research, I bought the URC-WR7: http://i44.tinypic.com/9gdmq0.jpg

It's clunky and not ergonomic, but it seems to be the best available. $25 shipped. I plan to use the middle gray 4-way pad for channels/volume, which is at least similar to my ideal.

Instead of the VOL / CHAN buttons? Then what are you going to do for navigation? Take a look at the punch-through volume and channel parts of the manual. I'm using that remote (for the same reason - cheapest learning remote, and it works well) in most rooms of my house...

Jeff
post #6 of 12
Thread Starter 
Oh cool, you have the same remote. I don't need the directionals since my TV service doesn't have a guide.

I have a feeling it'll take me a while to figure out its limitations, what I want for macros, and how to program each button. Maybe I'll set the "ON" button to my receiver and TV power, and set the "System OFF" do receiver power plus setting it to tuner. I assume the 7 input-mode buttons can't perform any actions themselves.
post #7 of 12
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Originally Posted by aewfqawe View Post

I don't need the directionals since my TV service doesn't have a guide.

What about your DVD/BD player(s) and or basically any other digital source that most certainly will use the directional pad?

Just wondering why you're not just using the UP/DOWN +/- as it would seem to complicate things and also make it really difficult for anyone else to use.

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I have a feeling it'll take me a while to figure out its limitations, what I want for macros, and how to program each button. Maybe I'll set the "ON" button to my receiver and TV power, and set the "System OFF" do receiver power plus setting it to tuner. I assume the 7 input-mode buttons can't perform any actions themselves.

Actually the power on, system off, 7 source buttons, and the 4 color buttons can all hold macros. It's quite a flexible ~$25 remote...

Jeff
post #8 of 12
That remote can do macros?!
post #9 of 12
Of course it can. The $15 RCA RCRP05B is even better. It can do macros on any key, and they can be global or device specific. Vol and chan lock can also be device specific. You can also learn or reassign any key to any function. Some keys have multi macros where a different macro can be executed with each press. You can add any extra function like discrete input and power commands via codes and use them in your macros. Also each button can have 2 functions, a primary and shifted one.

And to top everything off, if you make your own programming cable for about $5 you can program it from your PC with a graphical interface, adding even more functionality like nested macros, fast macros, unlimited devices, 5 functions per key, state tracking, macro variable pauses, key group mapping, custom devices and protocols, pronto hex import and IR signal analysis, giving your $15 remote the power of a $300 remote. It's really quite amazing.
post #10 of 12
Thread Starter 
That sounds pretty intense, mdavej!

jautor, I want to use the directional pad for channels/volume because I find it much more convenient to put my thumb in 1 spot and lean it based on the function. Imagine trying to play any Nintendo game if the controller had 2 separated pairs for left/right and up/down instead of the D-pad. A D-pad makes for channel surfing bliss.

The remote just arrived, and the middle button of the D-pad is raised a little higher than I'd want. So I used a razor to slice it 1mm shorter, and now it's great. I'll set that middle button to "display channel info".

As for my DVD player, I could simply make it so when the DVD input is selected, the D-pad is back to normal, and use something else for volume.
post #11 of 12
Thread Starter 
I started customizing the WR7, and I'm impressed. To some extent you can decide your own repeat speeds when holding down a button, by pushing it quickly during the learning, so now my channel change repeats very quick. The manual is unusually clear.

It appears that macros must consist of a sequence of buttons that are already programmed. It would have been better if they could be a sequence of external learning.
post #12 of 12
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There's a significant error in the manual. To put macros on the 7 component buttons, you have to hold the component+mute, then do the sequence, and then channel up. The manual says component+SEL!
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