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post #2911 of 6139
8/30/12 at 11:19am
Originally Posted by 5mark

I'd be curious to hear how many people have decided on a "set and forget" level and how many plan to tweak per movie...




Tweaker and experimenter here with the settings as for me it's fun and when I get the improved maximum from any really clean source it is often spectacular. So...worth the quick effort and the remote's not heavy......biggrin.gif
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post #2912 of 6139
8/30/12 at 11:36am
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Originally Posted by RonF View Post

Originally Posted by 5mark
I'd be curious to hear how many people have decided on a "set and forget" level and how many plan to tweak per movie...
Tweaker and experimenter here with the settings as for me it's fun and when I get the improved maximum from any really clean source it is often spectacular. So...worth the quick effort and the remote's not heavy......biggrin.gif

It is no different then calibrating your big screen then watching movies, do you tweak it all the time after a calibration? I have a Darbee coming on Friday anfor my HT room and I only watch movies there, no TV. For tv, I have a living room setup and it is fine for tv watching..
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post #2913 of 6139
8/30/12 at 11:44am
Can somebody help me. I just recieved mine.
I think I like it a lot. One question. I can't get rid of the darbee % showing on the screen.
It says darbee 50%, and I can't get it off the screen?

Thx
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post #2914 of 6139
8/30/12 at 11:44am
waiting for mine to arrive....Where's my damn darbee doll??? biggrin.gif
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post #2915 of 6139
8/30/12 at 11:46am
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Originally Posted by bsoko2 View Post

It is no different then calibrating your big screen then watching movies, do you tweak it all the time after a calibration? I have a Darbee coming on Friday anfor my HT room and I only watch movies there, no TV. For tv, I have a living room setup and it is fine for tv watching..

Well, if you happen to be feeding your TV with a high quality signal, you may be surprised how much the Darblet can improve things. On the other hand, if you're just using it's built-in tuner then you're out of luck on that score.
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post #2916 of 6139
8/30/12 at 11:49am
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Originally Posted by frostylou View Post

Can somebody help me. I just recieved mine. I think I like it a lot. One question. I can't get rid of the darbee % showing on the screen. It says darbee 50%, and I can't get it off the screen?

That's been asked and answered a number of times here already - it's under Logos in the setup menu > Persistence > OFF.
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post #2917 of 6139
8/30/12 at 11:53am
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Originally Posted by bsoko2 View Post

It is no different then calibrating your big screen then watching movies, do you tweak it all the time after a calibration? I have a Darbee coming on Friday anfor my HT room and I only watch movies there, no TV. For tv, I have a living room setup and it is fine for tv watching..

Yes. Most of the time it is just me and I'm not annoying someone else. Just a quick run and up and down with the intensity to find favorite level and check between HD and Pop which works best. The main thing I'm after is depth whenever I watch. Have had this interest in it for 2D since before there was home theater. If someone is with me I leave it alone during the program. Color and everything else with the calibration is staying intact. That's not an issue.


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" The main thing I'm after is depth whenever I watch" Well...effect wise. Of course first I'm choosing content and looking for great things to watch. Bluray or HDTV. Lots of sports. Signals are all over the map, but unless it's the Lakers on a crappy feed, I won't watch much of anything with a less than really clean signal with my projector.
Edited by RonF - 8/30/12 at 12:05pm
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post #2918 of 6139
8/30/12 at 12:07pm
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Originally Posted by RandyWalters View Post

That's been asked and answered a number of times here already - it's under Logos in the setup menu > Persistence > OFF.





Thx Randy!
Awesome
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post #2919 of 6139
8/30/12 at 12:18pm
Ordered mine last week and it is now WAITING for me at home. Can't wait to try it out- thanks everyone on this thread for the great insights!

BTW- I read EVERY SINGLE post on this thread- do I get a prize or something...?
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post #2920 of 6139
8/30/12 at 12:24pm
With almost 3000 posts, I can see how someone can get lost in here. Ive been trying to take some notes so that when mine makes it, I know the answers to the big questions.

Maybe a F.A.Q. is in order either here, or on the Darbee website?
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post #2921 of 6139
8/30/12 at 12:26pm
So who has the smallest screen they are using a darbee on? I use a 50g20 Panasonic and at 8-10 feet I've found my set and forget it to be 75% which is so much higher than most people on here

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post #2922 of 6139
8/30/12 at 12:45pm
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Originally Posted by nickbuol View Post

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Despite getting my shipping email yesterday, it does not look like it actually left yet. That means no delivery this Saturday, that means no Darblet for the holiday weekend.
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Originally Posted by mattg3 View Post

Think im in the same boat but at least it will catch up to my monoprice HDMI cable that shipped today.I was going to go with my never used but over 5 year old oppo 970 HDMI cable but why risk a cable not giving me the full pq changes provided by the darblet.My oppo 83 cable has never let me down so i will be feeding my Darblet picture to the screen using that one and my new cable will feed my oppo picture to the Darblet.By the middle of next week i should be able to post my review.


What makes you think it has not left yet?

If shipped postal service priority mail the tracking info usually only shows once it has been delivered (at least based upon my experience with it).

Jason
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post #2923 of 6139
8/30/12 at 12:55pm
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Originally Posted by RonF View Post

Originally Posted by 5mark
I'd be curious to hear how many people have decided on a "set and forget" level and how many plan to tweak per movie...
Tweaker and experimenter here with the settings as for me it's fun and when I get the improved maximum from any really clean source it is often spectacular. So...worth the quick effort and the remote's not heavy......biggrin.gif

I played around with it for about 5 days on various materials, found my magic setting & haven't touched it since.
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post #2924 of 6139
8/30/12 at 1:02pm
I have a 2D projector, an Epson 9700UB,, with a 120" diagonal fixed flat screen. I just watched Cowboys & Aliens which I had DVR'd with my Dish receiver.

Despite the compressing that Dish does to HD programming, this movie looked like 3D, even with the Darblet off. With the Darblet on HD 55%, I was convinced that Epson sent me a 3D projector by mistake.

If you can, DVR or buy this movie to show off your projector or TV!
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post #2925 of 6139
8/30/12 at 1:21pm
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Originally Posted by tkbryant View Post


I played around with it for about 5 days on various materials, found my magic setting & haven't touched it since.


Pretty much the same for me (~50% HD), though I have the relevant Darb remote buttons 'learned' by my URC so it's easy click it up or down a few notices if something strikes me as not quite right.

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post #2926 of 6139
8/30/12 at 2:06pm
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Originally Posted by jbernardi View Post

I have a 2D projector, an Epson 9700UB,, with a 120" diagonal fixed flat screen. I just watched Cowboys & Aliens which I had DVR'd with my Dish receiver.
Despite the compressing that Dish does to HD programming, this movie looked like 3D, even with the Darblet off. With the Darblet on HD 55%, I was convinced that Epson sent me a 3D projector by mistake.
If you can, DVR or buy this movie to show off your projector or TV!

Thanks for the tip....will rent the bluray....it must really look amazing. With all the weird little things they have to do (such as lenticular presentation) to little displays with tiny sweet spots for glasses free 3D (so far anyway that I've read about...maybe it's better now)..... I'm always blown away when I see a particular scene with the Darblet when that happens with great effect at LARGE size with a projected image.
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post #2927 of 6139
8/30/12 at 2:27pm
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Originally Posted by TopperMcFly View Post

Can you please answer the question about ARC? I am finding that it does not work. When I place the Darblet in between my TV and my AVR, ARC no longer works. How can this be 1.4 compliant?
Thank You

I have an Anthem MX-300 receiver (with ARC calibration processing), which I use as a switcher only for video (video passthrough) and send the signal to the Darbee, then out to the Planar 8150. I am having zero issues on the audio side, meaning ARC with this configuration. Is there a reason you need the Darbee before the Anthem in the chain? If not, have you tried it after the Anthem feeding the darbee? What were the results? My whole answer is based on that we are talking about the samething ...meaning ARC calibration system in the Anthem products. If not, my apologies.


Ron

Sorry if I confused the issue. Here is a better explanation. All off my devices run to my Onkyo 818 receiver. From there I would normally go straight to my VT50. This setup allows me to use ARC "audio return channel", so I can run audio to and from my TV. Now that I have the darblet in between my receiver and the TV, ARC no longer works. Meaning audio that originates from the TV "Netflix" no longer makes it back to the receiver. I now have to use an optical out to the receiver. Luckily , I had already run one, but it just makes for a less perfect setup and more button pressing that I would like.

Thanks

Still waiting to hear from the doc.
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post #2928 of 6139
8/30/12 at 2:45pm
E Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


Ok. Im TOTALLY Impressed. Just watched some blu rays along with some 1080p vudu on my 50inch panny plasma. Have it on HD at 50%.
I feel like I just made a jump to
4k! Facial detail, and backround detail clarity is really something.
I'm sold.
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post #2929 of 6139
8/30/12 at 3:51pm
Just got my darblet from Mike Garrett here at AVS. Thanks Mike!!!. Yes, shipping to Canada was successful although I had to pay the dreaded Canadian taxes upon delivery. I only had time to watch one movie (blu ray-Fifth Element) and I have to agree with most in this thread; the Darbee does make a very real and satisfying difference, without messing with all the other picture/video aspects such as contrast, colour, brightness, black level etc. I am looking forward to spending some quality time with the darbee in the next few days. BTW, my setup is: Panasonic BDT210 to Anthem MRX500 to Darblet and then to JVC X30. Setup was smooth and quick. Had one brief moment of video loss followed by a spontaneous darbee factory reset. After I switched back to HD 45, I didn' have any other issues. This little toy is definitely a keeper. One quick question though: How do I switch off the Darbee?????. I used the remote as well as the on/off switch on the unit and it doesn't seem to switch off----light still on.


atabea
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post #2930 of 6139
8/30/12 at 4:26pm
Hi atabea, just wondering what the Canadian taxes were on this product and what was your total landed cost.
I am in Toronto........ I am on the waiting list here at AVS.

Thanks
PM me if you want.

Paul
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post #2931 of 6139
8/30/12 at 4:33pm
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Originally Posted by atabea View Post

Just got my darblet from Mike Garrett here at AVS. Thanks Mike!!!. Yes, shipping to Canada was successful although I had to pay the dreaded Canadian taxes upon delivery. I only had time to watch one movie (blu ray-Fifth Element) and I have to agree with most in this thread; the Darbee does make a very real and satisfying difference, without messing with all the other picture/video aspects such as contrast, colour, brightness, black level etc. I am looking forward to spending some quality time with the darbee in the next few days. BTW, my setup is: Panasonic BDT210 to Anthem MRX500 to Darblet and then to JVC X30. Setup was smooth and quick. Had one brief moment of video loss followed by a spontaneous darbee factory reset. After I switched back to HD 45, I didn' have any other issues. This little toy is definitely a keeper. One quick question though: How do I switch off the Darbee?????. I used the remote as well as the on/off switch on the unit and it doesn't seem to switch off----light still on.


atabea

I had a spontaneous reset as well. What is the deal with that? It sounds common. Not a big deal but several no big deals start to add up.
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post #2932 of 6139
8/30/12 at 4:36pm
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Originally Posted by janice805 View Post

Started to order for $269 but the total ended up being over $289. I guess they charged me Calif. State Tax. Amazon doesn't do that. Before I hit the button to order, is this correct?

You are buying it from an Amazon vendor store and they are required to charge you sales tax if they are located in your state. AV Science Sales is located in NY and CA, so we are required to charge sales tax in those two states. It has been reported to me that Amazon has now agreed to charge sa;es tax for delivery into any state that hhas a sales tax. I don't know when this starts.

Several stores are selling the Darblet through Amazon, but they have raised their prices quite a bit above our $269 US shipping included. Even if you live in NY or CA, you would probably end up paying us a less totalplus you would be supporting an AC Science forum sponser. smile.gif


WE HAVE PLENTY IN STOCK NOW FOR ALL. smile.gif
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post #2933 of 6139
8/30/12 at 4:50pm
Mark,

Does AVS ship from both NY & CA on an item like this or would they all come from NY?

Just curios for us West coast folks. wink.gif

Thanks,
Jason
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post #2934 of 6139
8/30/12 at 5:08pm
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Originally Posted by sjschaff View Post

Well, if you happen to be feeding your TV with a high quality signal, you may be surprised how much the Darblet can improve things. On the other hand, if you're just using it's built-in tuner then you're out of luck on that score.

Never use the TV tunner for anything! Movies are from the Oppo 93 via Pioneer SC-57and TV is from Direct TV via Denon 4311ci.
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post #2935 of 6139
8/30/12 at 5:20pm
Question for those using a DCX-3400 DVR. Are you connected directly from the DVR into the Darbee out to the display? or are you going to an AVR first and then to the Darbee? I haven't tried going directly from the DVR to the Darbee, to display yet, mainly because of the hassle of reconnecting cables. As some of you may know finding a RNG-200 is very difficult. I called Comcast and they are going to send another DVR, but they don't know which model it will be. So in the meantime I guess I will try and hook it up without the receiver and see what happens. I hope a solution is found for this model DVR, because it will be a pain to keep going around to my rack and reconnecting cables to watch TV, (if this solution works).
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post #2936 of 6139
8/30/12 at 5:39pm

I (and I think most) connect the DVR to an AVR, and that to the Darblet and then display.     [And I also have a Radiance in the chain, between the AVR and Darb.]    I.e., all sources (which are only a Comcast DVR and a BD player) go into an AVR, then to the Radiance (if you have something like this), then Darb, then display.

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post #2937 of 6139
8/30/12 at 6:32pm
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Originally Posted by DaGamePimp View Post

Mark,
Does AVS ship from both NY & CA on an item like this or would they all come from NY?
Just curios for us West coast folks. wink.gif
Thanks,
Jason
Mine came from NY via USPS Priority and came in 2 days after it was shipped.
*Depending on your US Postal Service in your area, you may get it sooner or later but I believe they try to make the 3 day delivery on USPS Priority.
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post #2938 of 6139
8/30/12 at 6:36pm
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Originally Posted by TopperMcFly View Post

I had a spontaneous reset as well. What is the deal with that? It sounds common. Not a big deal but several no big deals start to add up.
I wonder if this occurring to those with the latest FW updated units.

*It might be a good idea to start posting the FW version when issues are found to see if there's a commonality, which will help the people at Darbee find a solution quicker if this is widespread.
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post #2939 of 6139
8/30/12 at 6:40pm
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Originally Posted by DarbeeDr View Post

Here is the response from our engineer:
"This should not be an issue. The Darblet will accept the 12-bit input, reduce it to 10-bit internally, and then after processing kick the signal back up to 12-bit for output. This means that, when Darbee is OFF, the output will not _exactly_ match the input signal, but the difference will of course imperceptible."
-DD

DD This product sounds like it is truly revolutionary in the way displays present material that is pleasing to the eye. For years we have looked to the objective analysis from calibrators and videophiles alike in providing test pattern and other measurement devices to quantify results that are in many cases beyond human visual perception. I have enjoyed reading the reviews and posts within this forum and have decided to purchase a unit to provide my own subjective analysis. This is quite refreshing and innovative perhaps we will see this implemented in display technology so that all can marvell at this most execellent of achievments!

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post #2940 of 6139
8/30/12 at 6:57pm
Got my Darbee yesterday from Amazon. I wrote a positive review for it, because so far I love it! I have a Panasonic VT30 55" Plasma. I never liked it, no sir, not right from the start. There was always something lacking from the picture. I was like this is it? This is the top of the line panasonic plasma.. it felt very dull and foggy picture. People's faces looked like they were masked or something. So I installed this yesterday and have noted a significant improvement in the clarity of my picture from all sorts of sources including XBOX 360, Dish hopper and my 1080p movies. I love it, I'm glad I purchased it.. thanks for a great product, its been the thing missing from my expensive tv!

Mo
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